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Star B943 (B94M) MTK6589 Quad Core 4.5Inch 1GB RAM 4GB ROM Dual Camera 5.0MP+12MP WCDMA 3G Dual SIM Card SmartpPhone
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Please pay attention, there are two versions of this devices on the Market!!!
One is with Dualcore and the other one is with Quadcore MTK6589.
So be carefully with Flashing and Rooting the devices.
There is already some progress with CWM and Root on German chinamobiles.org Forum.
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Update 07.05.2013: LeWaport_Star_B94M_22.05.13_cm08
My friends here comes a new LeWaport (cmod08) based on the stable release for Amoi N828.
If your already on lewa simple make backup, install cmod08.zip, wipe dalvik and cache after install, all others look instructions below.
Known bugs: Wifi nvrambug, with my fix bluetooh is only working after factory reset or resore data.
Update 07.05.2013: LeWaport_Star_B94M_08.05.13_cm04
Dear friends of LeWa here is a Test version based on LeWa Amoi N828
This version is rooted with gapps, no need to load these.
Hints for install:
1. Boot to CWM or TWRP Recovery
2. Make backup including boot and recovery ( TWRP 2.5.0.0 will be installed )
3. Wipe System partition
4. Install LeWaport_Star_B94M_07.05.13_cm03.zip
6. Reboot and be happy
Known errors: some chinese apps and strings, noLED patch still needed
Further steps: bugfixing, try to port multilanguage support (don´t hesitate to help )
New logo needed
-------------------------------------------------------- Hints for 4.2.1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update 03.05.2013: Batterylive improvement
User slein has submitted selfcoded apk for LED Fix ! Thanks to him!!!!
There are a lot of activities to fix sporadical battery drain. Following APK seems to be workaround install the app and disable LED notification with widget. Thx to all testers!
Good Batterytool
Update 26.04.2013: Japanese 4.2.1 JB-image from needrom
Well running 4.2.1 from needrom
for most users, please read carefully instructions, do backup (Titanium and/or CWM/TWRP) before update
and make Factory reset as described, to avoid most problems!
Howto Root 4.2.1 and GPS-Fix by JBrandtner
---------------------------- Hints for 4.1.2. --------------------------------------------------------
Update 18.04.2013: Wifi Mac change Fix ( Thx to okupka )
- use these file (make backup before!!!) with this guide and you are done
Update 12.04.2013: Different Sound improvements
People who have problems with sound try this link from Zopo-Forum
or from Patchworkoftips
Update 11.04.2013: Data Resize partition to 2.74GB Detailed description from here
1. We backup with recovery.
2. Unloaded and 2.74GB decompressed data (Thx to spanish friends! ).
3. SP Open Flashtool and as we have done before installing the recovery in scatter-loading MT6589_Android_scatter_emmc.txt select the file in the folder where we unzipped 2.74GB Data
4. We ensure that only EBR1 and EBR2 are marked.
5. We Give to Download, accept the prompt, connect via USB the phone off the PC. As with the recovery if the process fails, disconnect the cable, remove and put the battery and repeat this step.
6. If all goes well, will back the green circle. Disconnect the phone from the PC.
7. Now we go back to recovery (Turn on the phone by holding the power key + volume +).
8. In the recovery do wipe data / factory reset.
9. Optionally if you want to restore the data and installed applications we advance restore, choose the backup you made in step 1, and finally we give to Restore data.
10. Reboot from recovery. In this first boot after repartitioning we may see a notification saying the phone storage is damaged, then click in it. It will show a dialog box asking if you want to format the SD card, does not refer to the External SD but the phone's internal memory, so we do not fear clicking on Format. After doing the latter, voila, you have the Data partition (where apps are installed) extended to 2.74GB
Update 08.04.2013: 3G improvement
if phone is already root
Install from market the mobileuncle tools.
-> enter engineer mode (MTK).
-in modemtestactivity change "factory" for "telephone".
-in "band mode" GSM mode uncheck the "PCS1900."
New TWRP 2.4.4.0 Recovery available here
Update 03.04.2013: Networklocation Fix
by radekfor: i think i solved cell location problem.
Simply install latest Gapps for JB 4.1.2
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http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip
-> boot to Recovery ( Mobileuncle Tools, or Quickboot,.... ) -> Install zip from SD-Card , ....
Update 28.03.2013: Working on JB 4.1.2
Here you go at your own risk
Drivers;
CWM 5504 and Root here;
German instruction here
New SP_Flash_Tool_v3.1304.0.119
After extracting the zip file:
1. Debug Mode in the Developer Tools Switch
2. Install the drivers ( others may work better, e.g. pdanet )
3. The superuser-313-arm-signed.zip from third copy to the external SD card
4. Phone off and take out battery
5. using the SPFTools load in directory 2. Scatterdatei -> load and Recovery.img, boot.img and flash (press download and then return battery back)
6. Disconnect the data cable after green OK
7. When switching power and Vol + hold when the Green Man comes release Power and Vol + hold on.
8. In CWM now make complete backup, after this install zip from SDcard install the superuser zip ... JB 4.2.1 may need other tools look here found by #90
9. skip step 7 +8 and install superuser using the MTKdroidtools and make backup (but it takes a relatively long time)
10. You can now delete with MTK Droidtool some China-apps."
PS: Backup Rom made with SPFtools->readback
Thanks for the alert.
I've got a quad core 6589 version, so far cannot find a way to root it..
And it's NetworkLocation.apk is missing, i tried a couple of NetworkLocation.apk from JellyBean gapps zip files, no one seems to work, either not installable, crash on boot or not working.
3G connection seems to be dodgy, H/H+ is shown on the top bar but data is not coming down normally, during 1 minute, only less than 100k data come down and not able to load even 1 page...
Anyone has the same problem?
Cheers,
Fish
star b943 (mtk6589 b94m)
could someone translate recovery menu from Chinese Language
Yes the baseband or antennas seems to be crap.
Start download and remove your hands from the device or take it only with two fingers on the upper side, then my downlads finish and downloads show normal values. Speedtest with upload is seems to be fine,...
If someone needs root or cwm write me pm, or give me public upload location I´m not so experienced with this,...
Best regards
Thanks for the advice
radekfor said:
could someone translate recovery menu from Chinese Language
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Translate into:
-Factory Reset
-Auto (Overall?) Test
-Manual (Overall?) Test
-Single Function Test
-Test report
-Clear eMMC
-Version Info
-Reboot
Hope this helping.:laugh:
how do you think about the Star N9589?
with same quad core cpu mt6589
haisir said:
how do you think about the Star N9589?
with same quad core cpu mt6589
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The MT6589 is really good stuff, for me its my personal Favorite , but I would prefer smaller devices with 4-4,7" max screensize.
5,5" and higher does not really fit in any shirt pocket. If I ever have to carry a bag for my phone I would prefer a tablet with much better screens and battery life.
So i´m looking forward to Jiayu G4, G5, UMI X1S, or something similar screensize
cmoegele said:
Update 28.03.2013:
Here you go at your own risk CWM 5504 and Root
Best regards
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That's great!!!!
Thanks, it worked!
Now I still have two problems:
- amazon app-shop doesn't start (it remains black with amazon logo)
- doesn't vibrate on call in vibration mode
does someone else have the same problems?
Thanks
B94M/B943 quad
Thank you everyone for your hard work and time. I have very little experience (twice with well established models)
I was wondering if someone could clean up the txt instruction translation so someone like me can avoid brick making. Even adding better detail would be sweet. I will copy below. Thanks in advance.
"ATTENTION: The Star B94M is available as dual and quad core version!
The tools here refer exclusively to Star B94M MTK6589 or B943 quadcore devices!
After extracting the zip file:
1. Debug Mode in the Developer Tools Switch
2. Install the drivers
3. The superuser-313-arm-signed.zip from third copy to the external SD card
4. Phone off and take out battery
5. using the SPFTools load in directory 2. Scatterdatei -> load and Recovery.img, boot.img and flash (press download and then return battery back)
6. Disconnect the data cable after green OK
7. When switching power and Vol + hold when the Green Man comes release Power and Vol + hold on.
8. In CWM now either only make complete backup, or install zip from SDcard install the superuser zip ...
9. skip step 7 +8 and install superuser using the MTKdroidtools and make backup (but it takes a relatively long time)
10. You can now delete with MTK Droidtool some China-apps."
bradstallion said:
That's great!!!!
Thanks, it worked!
Now I still have two problems:
- amazon app-shop doesn't start (it remains black with amazon logo)
- doesn't vibrate on call in vibration mode
does someone else have the same problems?
Thanks
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vibration problem was a wrong setting by my side... still have problems with amazon app-shop (very strange, I've it installed on many devices and different versions of android, jelly bean included)
angryfish99 said:
Thanks for the alert.
I've got a quad core 6589 version, so far cannot find a way to root it..
And it's NetworkLocation.apk is missing, i tried a couple of NetworkLocation.apk from JellyBean gapps zip files, no one seems to work, either not installable, crash on boot or not working.
3G connection seems to be dodgy, H/H+ is shown on the top bar but data is not coming down normally, during 1 minute, only less than 100k data come down and not able to load even 1 page...
Anyone has the same problem?
Cheers,
Fish
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The MTK chipsets have always been weak on data connection starting from the MTK6573. It's so bad that connection can be lost while my Samsung right beside it has a good connection.
Anybody knows what is wrong with this China made phones?
Star
I managed to root. Thanks for the help guys (sarcasm).......The files that "cmoegele" posted worked except for the usb driver files. I had to use PdAnet for connection. I'll be watching to see what other members find on the camera focus and poor data comms.
Thank You
Data upload is stable, and downlad has good values for a while, but slows down from time to time. So I think the device is not doing completly wrong. There needs to be still some finetuning in Baseband and Rom like man other devices always need.
The performance and quality is really good, even +2 days Batter lifetime is a good value for this powerful device.
I´m waiting for new Roms
fmehrtens said:
I managed to root. Thanks for the help guys (sarcasm).......The files that "cmoegele" posted worked except for the usb driver files. I had to use PdAnet for connection. I'll be watching to see what other members find on the camera focus and poor data comms.
Thank You
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Hi fmehrtens, may I know the RAM and ROM capacity of your phone model? I am wondering if 8GB ROM and 1GB RAM model can be rooted using same method, thanks.
Spec says 8GB ROM and 1GB RAM, however AnTuTu shows only 1GB ROM and 1GB RAM. Am I missing anything here?
Hello,
I've ordered this new phone Star One B943 Quad core, and i want to thank u for the rooting method ^^
I'm searching for the ROM stock, does anyone have the idea where i can find it ?
And i found that the Miz Z1 is the same phone, but with Android 4.2.1 installed. Do u think it's possible to upgrade the Star OS version with the Miz Z1 firmware ?
B934
windwaver said:
Hi fmehrtens, may I know the RAM and ROM capacity of your phone model? I am wondering if 8GB ROM and 1GB RAM model can be rooted using same method, thanks.
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It is a 4G ROM and 1G RAM. Just FYI, the first time I tried to root it did not root, I had to try it a couple of times, and then I also loaded the ZIP file on the ROM memory along with the SD card. It worked that time. Not sure if that's what helped or not. The phone is a really nice phone ecpecially after rooting. I am also having trouble with Amazon App store app, Netflix playing too slow and the camera focus.
Good Luck and Thanks!
Neodragon12 said:
Hello,
I've ordered this new phone Star One B943 Quad core, and i want to thank u for the rooting method ^^
I'm searching for the ROM stock, does anyone have the idea where i can find it ?
And i found that the Miz Z1 is the same phone, but with Android 4.2.1 installed. Do u think it's possible to upgrade the Star OS version with the Miz Z1 firmware ?
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I have got a Copy of the origin Rom done with SPFTools. If it is needed. You also can use the Scatterfile from the zip-file.
Do you have a link for the 4.2.1 Miz Z1 firmware ? Perhaps its a fake,...
Otherwise I will flash it to our device except the Preloader, so if it fails I could go back to stock.
cmoegele said:
Data upload is stable, and downlad has good values for a while, but slows down from time to time. So I think the device is not doing completly wrong. There needs to be still some finetuning in Baseband and Rom like man other devices always need.
The performance and quality is really good, even +2 days Batter lifetime is a good value for this powerful device.
I´m waiting for new Roms
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May I know the country you using the phone in? I have very bad experience with MTK chipsets with regards to data transfer. Other phones e.g. Samsung, LG do not give me this problem.
How to improve the data performance?
The Lenovo A706 Owners' Thread (for Rooting, CWM, and other discussions)
Official Product Page
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Device Specs:
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SIM Type: Dual Mini-SIM
Band Coverage: GSM 900/1800/1900 MHz (Asia-Pacific)
GSM 850/1800/1900 MHz (Latin America)
WCDMA 900/2100 MHz (Asia-Pacific)
WCDMA 850/1900 MHz (Latin America)
WLAN: 802.11 a/b/g/n with hotspot capability
Display: 4.5" IPS (Can anyone confirm if it has Gorilla Glass?)
Resolution: 480 x 854
Navigation: 5-point capacitive touch
Processor: Quad-Core Qualcomm MSM 8225Q 1.2GHz
OS: Android™ 4.1 Jelly Bean with LenovoMagic UI
Memory: 1GB RAM
Storage: 4GB Internal Storage (eMMC) with memory card slot
Battery: 2000mAh Lithium Polymer user-replaceable
Dimensions: 136 x 69 x 10.4 mm
Weight: 130g
Sensors: A-GPS, Gravitation, Ambient light sensor, Proximity sensor
Camera: Front: 0.3MP fixed-focus, Rear: 5MP auto-focus
FM Radio: Yes
Color: White
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This is a good budget device when compared to other devices from lead manufacturers like Samsung, Sony, LG or Huawei.
While searching on the internet I did find some Root & CWM installation methods.
I will be updating the relevant posts as and when needed.
You can look in the list below for what you want to do with your device.
ATTENTION!!! READ THIS BEFORE DOING ANYTHING
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Friend, there are two versions of this device in the market:
1. A706 (Chinese model)
2. A706_ROW (International Model)
The ROMs in this thread are only for the A706ROW model of this phone unless otherwise stated.
If you have the chinese model or another model A760 (which is a different model) then the ROMs in this thread are not for you.
Model A706 and A760 are two different models with almost same specifications. This DOES NOT mean that the ROMs of A706ROW are compatible with A760.
Please DO NOT confuse Lenovo A706 with Lenovo A760 as these are two different devices!!! Flash or experiment at your own risk!!!!
If you share a ROM link for any of the above devices, then please mention clearly the device for which the ROM can be used.
What to do with your Device ?
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DISCLAIMER:
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Rooting your device VOIDS your warranty. Remember if you are doing this, it is at your own sole responsibility
and I cannot be held responsible for any damage to your device, data loss, or any personal injury as a result of your actions.
And, If you still feel it is worth the effort, proceed with caution!
FOR NOOBS
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Read the instructions (click on SHOW to read) before attempting anything from the list below!
First you need to have the Android SDK installed on your computer. Or atleast you need to have the adb & fastboot files available on your computer.
Here's a good post that tells you how to setup ADB and fastboot.
Here's a post that has a list of adb/shell commands for noobs.
Ok, once you are done with the setup of ADB & fastboot on your computer, then you can proceed with the below instructions.
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IMPORTANT NOTE BEFORE FLASHING:
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Recently, I have noticed that many people after buying the phone are flashing any firmware to their phones and most of the time without checking the phone versions and the OS versions. In the stock firmware post, I had mentioned that people having the Chinese version of the phone should NOT flash the ROW (international) firmware otherwise it would mess up their phone and network etc.
SOLUTION FOR SIM ERROR & DOWNGRADING TO CHINESE ROM
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Now, some of the people have already done such a mistake and for those people (who are having SIM or network problems and want to go back to chinese ROM, I am sticking this post by danyno1 to the OP:
(Click SHOW to See the quoted post)
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danyno1 said:
hi
I've just installed the "A706ROW_1_S_2_001_0020_130821 MegaFull"" rom , and now i have no network coverage, it doesnt recognize my simcards
I live in Iran.
what should i do??
is there any way to unlock it ??
please help me with this situation , i'm in a hurry
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after reading the whole topic posts, and testing all the methods , the problem is solved [thanks to mixbox360's posts.] i'm going to just copy and paste his 2 separated posts.
BEST soloutions for these 2 common problems :
#1 device doesnt recognize simcards
#2 being unable to downgrade to the chinees stock rom
soloution of the #1 problem :
how I fixed: Just Installed the QNeonModern 1.7 ROM... then I installed the update of a chinese ROM from bootdroid (I mean putt the update.qsb file un the sdfuse directory o my sd card, then power and vol+ to enter the menu and selected SD UPDATE)... thats all... I have again my chinese rom with signal for calls untill we discover how to make work the athk board in the ROW roms.
Hope to be helpfull!
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soloution for #2 problem:
Ok trying again to put my chinese device in ROW rom with sim signal, and found a solution:
1:Flash via droidboot a chinese stock firmware I used the 130325
2:Rooted device with vroot and installed CWM Recovery via ADB
3:In the procedure to install custom rom Qneon one of the steps is to flash boot.img via fastboot... well I just didn´t do this step and flashed directly Qneon_1.7.1.zip via CWM
4: Did data/factory reset, cache reset and dalvik cache reset
5:Reboot system
An Ready! Finally got my chinese device in spanish and sim signal.
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ENJOY THE DUAL SIM ANTENNA + ROM WITH MULTIPLE LANGUAGES
CREDITS : mixbox360
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For Installing CWM: Go to Post #2
For Rooting: Go to Post #3
For Stock ROMs: Go to post #4
For Custom ROMs: Go to post #5
Credits:
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- Lenovo for making a surprisingly good budget phone
- And users for buying it!
Enjoy your phone and share your thoughts and helpful insights/useful methods with all other users here so that they can benefit from your research.
CWM Installation Instructions:
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Make sure you have all the drivers for your phone installed on your computer. Download for A706 from here. Some other Qualcomm drivers (not sure if required)
Make sure you have USB Debugging enabled, Install from Unknown Sources is enabled and device is detected in ADB run this command:
Code:
adb devices
Download the CWM Recovery for A706 from here.
Unzip the downloaded file to get a "recovery.img" recovery image file.
Press SHIFT key + Right mouse click in the folder where the file is located and select Open Command from Here.
Now, in the command prompt do the following:
a. Reboot into Bootloader mode. Use command:
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
b. Device will reboot and display Lenovo logo. (check if device is in bootloader mode by running command:
Code:
fastboot devices
. If you see a device connected then you have successfully rebooted into fastboot mode.
c. Now, run this command:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
(This will flash the CWM recovery image to the device).
d. Once successful, reboot the device using this command:
Code:
fastboot reboot
. Or, you can keep the power+vol up+ vol down buttons pressed to restart.
If everything has gone well, this should get CWM installed on your device. Your device is still *not rooted*. Once you have installed CWM, please proceed to the ROOT instructions post to *root* your device.
CREDITS:
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This post (in Vietnamese)
This post for Recovery (in Russian)
This post for Drivers links (in Russian)
And, to all the other great Russian/Chinese forums and sites who have such vast info on Lenovo which we need in English
DISCLAIMER: Rooting your device VOIDS your warranty. Proceed with caution!!!
1. CWM ROOT METHOD
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Ok, so you have successfully installed CWM and need root.
1. Just download this Root for A706 ( CWM flashable zip file)
2. Reboot phone to CWM Recovery (use command: adb reboot recovery)
3. Flash the zip and then restart into OS.
4. Now, you should get the Super user app in the list.
2. VROOT (ONE-CLICK ROOTING) METHOD
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For noobs AND people who either don't want to install CWM or are unsure of it's usage and only want root, can use this guide for VROOT one-click rooting method. The guide has been translated and posted on XDA by zhuhang. The original vroot post/method (in chinese) exists on this site.
CREDITS:
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Same as in the CWM post above.
Thanks to zhuhang for posting the VROOT guide in english (translated from chinese).
DISCLAIMER: Follow these instructions at your OWN risk & responsibility. They are provided AS-IS without any liability.
IMPORTANT NOTE BEFORE FLASHING:
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Recently, I have noticed that many people after buying the phone are flashing any firmware to their phones and most of the time without checking the phone versions and the OS versions. In the stock firmware post, I had mentioned that people having the Chinese version of the phone should NOT flash the ROW (international) firmware otherwise it would mess up their phone and network etc.
Solution to the problem is now in the OP. Please follow it if you have SIM error or network issue.
STOCK ROM
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I am posting a list of stock firmware(s) that I can find for the A706 here, along with instructions on how to install it.
FIRMWARE LIST
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Build Number: A706_ROW_S018:
Details:
Firmware Type: Official Release
Languages: English, Russian, Chinese, Indonesian & Vietnamese
Build Date: 15/07/2013
OS: Android 4.1.2 with Lenovo Magic UI
Download Link: Get it from here (Lenovo-Forums.ru)
(You need to click on the green button on the page. Once you click there then you need to register and logged in, to download it.)
CREDIT: This post in Russian.
This post by 5[Strogino] has a list of stock firmwares and links to download them.
INSTRUCTIONS
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A memory card is required.
Boot into Android normally.
Connect your phone to your PC/Laptop with a USB cable and when asked (or in USB connection settings), please select USB Mass storage mode to mount SD card.
On the root of the memory card, create a folder called "sdfuse".
Unzip the downloaded firmware, you will get a QSB file.
Copy the QSB file to the sdfuse folder that we created earlier on the root of SD card.
Note: Please make sure that your phone has atleast 60% power before attempting or beginning upgrade. Or keep charger connected during the process.
SD card upgrade process:
Long press VOL UP + POWER_KEY to enter the droidboot,
A menu will appear. Select the fourth option, SDUPDATE.
At the bottom of the screen, you can see the progress and status of the update
When you see the message "SDCARD UPDATE SUCCESS!!!", this means you successfully completed the upgrade process
Now, reboot your device and hopefully it should be updated.
That's it! If you guys have found any more firmware download links (even for different regions, build etc.) just share them with me along with details and I will add them to the list in this post.
CREDIT: Instructions were taken from this post and formatted and edited for better understanding.
A List of Custom ROMs
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QNeon-Modern ROM (based on Russian Firmware but has English too): Visit the original thread (in Russian)
Please do share more ROMs with me so that I can include them in this list.
help!
hello bro! i got stuck at installing the cwm flashable file. it's saying "Verifying update package.... Installation aborted"
gr8techie said:
RESERVED (for a list of Stock ROMs/Stock ROM installation)
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Thanks,
Very nice thread. Had the phone for a month but no support anywhere. i need the stock rom, if u have pls pm me.
thanks again
scuderialoki said:
hello bro! i got stuck at installing the cwm flashable file. it's saying "Verifying update package.... Installation aborted"
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scuderialoki, unfortunate that you got stuck. worked for me without any issues. i upped the same file that i used on mediafire. can you re-download the file and then check if the file is ok by extracting the zip using winrar or winzip? if it is ok then try flashing it again.
guliboy123 said:
Thanks,
Very nice thread. Had the phone for a month but no support anywhere. i need the stock rom, if u have pls pm me.
thanks again
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guliboy123, i will be putting the link and some instructions on the stock rom post soon. bear with me as i have to check the instructions from the russian/chinese sites and then put it up here. in the meantime, i suggest you take a backup of your current ROM (which is stock) using CWM and then try out the QNeon-Modern ROM. remember u need to flash that ROM using CWM.
thanks
scuderialoki, unfortunate that you got stuck. worked for me without any issues. i upped the same file that i used on mediafire. can you re-download the file and then check if the file is ok by extracting the zip using winrar or winzip? if it is ok then try flashing it again.
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gr8techie thanks for the reply. i really appreciate it. just downloaded the flashable cwm however it's still the same bro. lemme tell you something though. i rooted the devices before using framaroot and everything is ok but i had to do a factory reset through the settings app in A706. i still see the superuser app in the system apps and i cant uninstall it. when i open the superuser app in the drawer it's giving me an error that the su binary is not installed and su cant install it.
scuderialoki said:
gr8techie thanks for the reply. i really appreciate it. just downloaded the flashable cwm however it's still the same bro. lemme tell you something though. i rooted the devices before using framaroot and everything is ok but i had to do a factory reset through the settings app in A706. i still see the superuser app in the system apps and i cant uninstall it. when i open the superuser app in the drawer it's giving me an error that the su binary is not installed and su cant install it.
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ok, please tell me if you have CWM installed on your device? I believe it is not installed. if this is the case, then you need to flash CWM and then try installing the zip again.
if it is installed then, i believe the super su from previous rooting maybe causing the problem. check on Playstore for a method to unroot your device. or google it. then you need to root again. hope this solves your problem.
thanks
Hi bro thanks for the reply i attached a screenshot of my root validation. I used an app to identify that. And by the way my recovery is installed. I the super su app is killing it
New page for our devices :good:
I had rooted my Lenovo A706 before You made this page You are faster than me , bro :laugh::laugh:
Hope our A706 will have more ROM, Init , Kernel that make it better
Some picture of mine, they are old ones..I am cooking some new thing on A706...:laugh: hope you like
Anyone know how to switch between few apps on lenovo A706?
long press on home button will only show the google now
Changing input method when typing also an issues i met,
anyway to change the input method when typing?
Can someone upload an official updated rom (ROW) for lenovo a706? It'll be much appreciated.
FREE CALLING SERVICE PROBLEM
guys,, may be you can help me... the problem is i can hear what other people are saying in LINE / Skype /Viber but people can't hear anything i said.
Goog, I want it
Sent from my Lenovo A706 using xda premium
silv3rmoon said:
Anyone know how to switch between few apps on lenovo A706?
long press on home button will only show the google now
Changing input method when typing also an issues i met,
anyway to change the input method when typing?
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Click to collapse
Long press in menu button ^^
---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:18 PM ----------
rapnix said:
FREE CALLING SERVICE PROBLEM
guys,, may be you can help me... the problem is i can hear what other people are saying in LINE / Skype /Viber but people can't hear anything i said.
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just viber bro...because maybe viber isn't usable for us now..i can use skype , line , zalo and every things else nomarly
@trithong.. bro. also in LINE and TALKRAY i encounter this problem some of us already encounter this problem what version do you have? i have A706ROW.. no problem if only chatting but if i want to use calling features that's were i encounter this kind of problem i can here them but they cannot here me
my A706 can't root.
CWM show Installation abort!
Baseband ver
A706ROW_1_A_2_0046_130604
Internal ver
A706ROW_1_S_2_001_0018_130705
Hackwerk's Acer Liquid E3 (E380) / ALE3 Topic
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Specifications / Features / Hardware
Full specs (and E3/E380 vs E2/V370) at GSMArena
Model / Name: E380 / Acer Liquid E3 (Duo / Single / Duo PLUS) or "ALE3"
SKU/EAN/UPC: HM.HDZEE.004.412EF4E96413 (Duo, black) / 4713147308262 / 887899533860
(HM.HE2EE.002 = Duo, titanium gold / HM.HE0EE.001 = Single, black / HM.HE1EE.001 = Single, titanium gold / HM.HE3EG.001 = Duo PLUS, black)
CPU/GPU: Mediatek MT6589 1.2GHz Quad-core Cortex-A7 / PowerVR SGX544
ROM/RAM: 4GB (or 16GB in PLUS) / 1GB (or 2GB in PLUS)
Screen: 4.7" IPS LCD, 720 x 1280, 16M (part 6M.HDZH7.001)
Camera back/front: 13MP, 4160 x 3120 (flash, autofocus) / 2MP (flash)
Battery: Model BAT-A10 (1ICP4/58/71), Cell PGF355870HT (Samsung)("Fixed", Li-Polymer, 2000mAh, 3.8V)
Other: MicroSD (to 32GB), Dual (Duo) or Single SIM, a-GPS, DTS Sound (Optional NFC (in PLUS?))
Dimensions: 138x69x9 mm (5.35x2.68x 0.35 inch), 135 g (4.73 oz)
Firmware / Software
Firmware: Android 4.4.2 KitKat (original Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean))
Kernel: 3.4.67 [email protected] #1 (20140925)(custom kernels made by cyclon1978!)(cyclon1978 custom kernel with inverted Y-ax for replacement screens)
Build: Acer_AV0K0_E380_1.018.00_EMEA_GEN1 (KOT49H)
Radio/band: MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V44.P10 (20140909)(APN 2.094)
Recovery: CWM 6.0.5.0 for E380 by vache -hold Volume Up while powering on-
Acer update history / Changelog
French version of the changelogs by Shreps can be found here at the Acer Club (.fr).
WARNING: When updating root will be removed & recovery/bootlogo/bootanimation will be reset to stock! You can easily restore root by our flash method and restore Link2SD apps etc!
Update 2014-04-11
Build: > Acer_AV052_E380_1.012.00_EMEA_GEN1
APN: > 2.062
Apps: Not checked
Fixes: Unknown
Update 2014-06-06
Kernel: 3.4.5 st3@st3-server #1 (20140530)
Build: > Acer_AV052_E380_1.016.00_EMEA_GEN1
Radio: > MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V5.P51 (20140424)
APN: > 2.076
Apps: Google Maps, Acer Customer Experience, ALU, Quick mode, Snapnote, Nidus, Live screen, Swype, Touch Panel FW, Google GMS R6 etc?
Fixes: (thanks to Shreps)
Camera focus a little better. (Totally fixed & fast in latest KitKat update (RC18))
GPS a little better. (Totally fixed & very fast and accurate in latest KitKat update (RC18))
Improve power consumption.
Camera shutter sound – set off as default.
Disable vibrator when taking picture.
Long press menu key to launch setting menu.
Disable hall sensor if flip UI is disabled.
Improve Acer RAPID function.
Improve Float APP performance.
Animation scale change to 0.5x
Battery warning message incorrect (user is asked to remove the battery).
Bluetooth connection dropping issue with BMW series 1 carkit.
Beta/RC 10 (635439223707245731) (thanks to vache)
Android: 4.4.2 KitKat (RC10)
Kernel: 3.4.67 [email protected] 20140813 st3.1407926371
Build: Acer_AV0K0_E380_1.010.00_EMEA_GEN1 (KOT49H)
Radio: MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V44.P8 (20140811)
APN: 2.089
Beta/RC 14 (635451389186094510) (thanks to vache)
Android: 4.4.2 KitKat (RC14)
Kernel: 3.4.67 [email protected] 20140828 st3.1409221923
Build: Acer_AV0K0_E380_1.014.00_EMEA_GEN1 (KOT49H)
Radio: MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V44.P8 (20140811)
APN: 2.0.93
RC 17 (635464579241492804) (thanks to Shreps)
Android: 4.4.2 KitKat (RC17)
Kernel: 3.4.67 [email protected] 20140915 st3.1410756057
Build: Acer_AV0K0_E380_1.017.00_EMEA_GEN1 (KOT49H)
Radio: MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V44.P10 (20140909)
APN: 2.0.93
Update 2014-10-07: Acer KitKat Update (RC18)(635475739172038202)(OLD LINK)
Android: 4.4.2 KitKat (RC18)
Kernel: 3.4.67 [email protected] #1 20140925
Build: Acer_AV0K0_E380_1.018.00_EMEA_GEN1 (KOT49H)
Radio: MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V44.P10 (20140909)
APN: 2.0.94
Fixes:
GPS is fixed and now very fast and very accurate!
Camera (focus) is fixed and now fast and sharp!
Google Play Store icons (black background when transparant) is fixed.
?
Update 2015-01-28: Final Acer KitKat Update (RC19)(635580282980063641)
Android: 4.4.2 KitKat (Final)(RC19)
Kernel: ?
Build: Acer_AV0K0_E380_1.004.00_EMEA_GEN1s_A44K_A (KOT49H)
Radio: ?
APN: ?
Fixes:
?
Official
The following are official Acer pages/links, but content IS different on all other languages/regions (so try others)!
Support pages (drivers/manuals/source): NL, Global/US.
USB Driver v1.0 AV052 (2014-03-27) (does NOT work with tools (flashing and dumping etc), as you need PDAnet or VCOM drivers for that (see ROM Dump section))
Kernel Sources v20150126 (4.4.2)
Kernel Sources v20150126 (4.2.2)
Manual (ENG)(Duo) (for other manuals follow 1st link)
Acer Club (FR) Forums (semi-official)
ROM Dump / Partitions / Scatter
When stuck / frozen on boot (bootloop) you can always reset by holding Volume Up & Power for over 12 sec!
Carlivs Tutorial is another good, clear and complete overview of all this!
You CAN NOT dump/read your phone with the official Acer drivers (no virtual COM port)!
I now succesfully used PDANet (See Tools / Drivers), but a lot of people seem to use the VCOM drivers (MT6589 VCOM, MTK Preloader etc.
The only tool (see Tools section) working after a lot of trying (!) for me was (old) SP Flash Tool 3.1344, and sometimes the newest 3.1408, both icw MTK Droid 2.5.3!
Read these 5 great (similar) ROM dump / flash tutorials (or read this tutorial about Android partitions):
Tutorial 1
Tutorial 2
Tutorial 3
Tutorial 4
Tutorial 5
-- SEE POST ATTACHMENT FOR CURRENT SCATTER FILE --
In this table you find the partition name (all EMMC) (as found in the scatter file attached to this post, probably made by MTK Droid Root & Tools (see Tools section)), then the start adress and then the length, all in hex.
(This could also be done by connecting to phone (with USB Debug on) and using ADB: "adb shell cat /proc/dumchar_info")
PRELOADER
0x0 0xc00000
MBR
0xc00000 0x80000
EBR1
0xc80000 0x80000
__NODL_PMT
0xd00000 0x400000
__NODL_PRO_INFO
0x1100000 0x300000
__NODL_NVRAM
0x1400000 0x500000
__NODL_PROTECT_F (EXT4 mount as /protect_f)
0x1900000 0x400000 (or 0xA00000?!)
__NODL_PROTECT_S (EXT4 mount as /protect_s)
0x2300000 0xA00000
__NODL_SECCFG
0x2d00000 0x20000
UBOOT
0x2d20000 0x60000
BOOTIMG
0x2d80000 0x600000
RECOVERY
0x3380000 0x600000
SEC_RO
0x3980000 0x600000
__NODL_MISC
0x3f80000 0x80000
LOGO
0x4000000 0x300000
__NODL_EXPDB
0x4300000 0xA00000
ANDROID (EXT4 mount as /system)
0x4d00000 0x3E800000
CACHE (EXT4 mount as /cache)
0x43500000 0x7E00000
USRDATA (EXT4 mount as /data)(can not read it in SP Flash Tool, because "length does not allign"?!)
0x4b300000 0xB4CF00A8
__NODL_BMTPOOL (can not read it in SP Flash Tool, because "length does not allign"?!)
0xffff00a8 0x1500000
ROM Installing / Updating
Basic instructions to update your phone (if not automatically Over The Air (OTA)) with a ROM ZIP using a recovery:
If you have the SP Flash Tool (see Tools), make a backup with that too
Install CWM (or any other custom recovery like Carliv's CTR or TWRP if available for E380)(see Root by Flash)
Download and unzip the ROM update (see Acer Update History and watch new posts)
Copy the FixPack-B.zip to SD card
(Re)Boot into recovery
Make a full backup in recovery (to SD)
Flash the FixPack-B.zip from recovery
Reboot & enjoy the new ROM / updated Android!
Root by flash (preferred method)
WARNING: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, THIS CAN BE DIFFICULT OR EVEN DANGEROUS!!!
When stuck / frozen on boot (bootloop) you can always reset by holding Volume Up & Power for over 12 sec!
Carlivs Tutorial is another good, clear and complete overview of all this!
Steps 0-4 are to be found explained more thouroughly and with images, in the tutorials in the ROM Dump section. Read them. Read them well!
All tools can be found in the Tools section.
Also, a short (better?) version by Shreps can be found here (or check this ChinaPhoneArena one).
0) Install drivers (see Tools) with a good USB virtual COM port emulation! Most simple is to install PDANet maybe, but lot of people seem to use so called VCOM drivers / MT6589 VCOM / MTK Preloader etc. Other option is the MTK USB All Developer drivers. Make sure connection is OK, and MTK Droid works (when phone is on)!
1) Create scatter file or use the one attached to this post.
2) Read back (stock) recovery (or all) partitions with (old) SP Flash Tool 3.1344 using scatter from 1, or download my stock recovery img here.
3) Download CWM 6.0.5.0 by vache or Carliv Touch Recovery CTR (2.7 for JB, 3.0 for KK) (thanks to vache/Shreps for CWM, thanks to Carliv for CTR!)(or make your own by MTK Droid altering stock recovery image);
4) "Download" (to phone) the custom recovery with (old) SP Flash Tool 3.1344 using scatter from 1, or use mine.
5a) Copy SuperSU zip to SD card, and boot your phone into CWM/Carliv recovery (hold volume up and turn phone on), and then Install zip from SD > install SuperSU.
5b) Te keep your custom CWM: Install SuperSU immediately after boot, and use File / Root Explorer to delete file ".. recovery .." in System folder before booting again!
6) YOU ARE ROOTED!
7) Install BusyBox (see Tools section)
WARNING: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, THIS CAN BE DIFFICULT OR EVEN DANGEROUS!!!
Root by app
WARNING: ALL METHODS AT YOUR OWN RISK (NOT TROJAN OR MAL-/SPYWARE CHECKED)!!!
You can always first check the Lifehacker Always Actual Root Guide.
Working (confirmed):
Kingo Root APK / 1.5.1.2996 PC
May be working / Not tested:
KingRoot 5.1.0 APK / 3.5.0.1157 PC (MAY BE UNSAFE)
iRoot 3.3.6 APK / 1.8.8 PC by XINYI Network / Mgyun (formerly VRoot)(WORKING BEFORE UPDATE TO KITKAT!)
Root Genius 2.2.84 APK / 3.1.7 PC by Shuame
Baidu Root / MROOT
Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper 2.0.3 (protects root on rooted phones)(WORKING BEFORE UPDATE TO KITKAT!) (Or use SuperSU Pro (paid)!)
NOT (yet) working (anymore)(confirmed):
Please message me your own test results and additions!!!
WARNING: ALL METHODS AT YOUR OWN RISK (NOT TROJAN OR MAL-/SPYWARE CHECKED)!!!
Developing / Custom ROM's
MyROM (4.0.037)(just search thread for newer!) by our friend cyclon1978 (Best rated custom ROM yet!)
CyanogenMod 10.1 for E3 (ported from UMI X2)!
MIUI v6 for E380 by Kenji Zefaneo Hanson, now at version 4.12.28!
MIUI v5 for ALE3 by Artha Bedul, now at version 4.8.29!
EMUI by Artha Bedul, now at version 3.0 R2!
Lollitop version 2 by Awand Mbengi (4.4.2 so only cosmetic 5.01!)
LEWA for E380 by Artha Bedul;
Androium 4.2.0 for E3 by Matx;
4PDA (Russian) thread with customs like MIUI4 and Sony Xperia C (AT YOUR OWN RISK);
FrAndroid (French) thread with customs (cosmetic/themed) (AT YOUR OWN RISK);
Your custom ROM for the E3 here soon?
Kernel sources in the Official section!!!
Tools / Drivers / Fixes / Hacks
Kernel sources can be found in the Official section!!!
Drivers
Google 'Naked' Drivers (see next subsection or Google them)
MTK USB All developer drivers (0.9.2 / 9.2.1)(WATCH OUT FOR VIRUSSES/TROJANS!)
PDANet (4.19)
Google for VCOM drivers / MT6589 VCOM / MTK Preloader etc. (All the same old v 1.1123.0)
Official Acer drivers (see link in first part of post)(probably wont always work, so deinstall or do not use those!)
Google Tools (ADB, Fastboot & Google Naked Drivers
Minimal ADB & Fastboot (1.4.2)(ADB, Fastboot)
15 Seconds ADB Installer (1.4.3)(ADB, Fastboot & Drivers)
Official Google Android SDK (r25.2.3)(Choose "Command line tools only")(ADB, Fastboot & Drivers etc. etc.)(Tutorial here)
Tools
MTK2000 is a great MediaTek-hack site with frequent updates of SP/MTK Flash Tool and MUCH more for MTK!
----- MediaTek Tools -----
SP Flash Tool / Smart Phone Flash Tool (v(5.)1708)(MT65xx)(now also Linux!)(First try 3.1344 or older!)
MTK Flash Tool (v5.1624.00)(MT62xx)
MTK Droid Root & Tools (2.5.3)(create scatter (datamap) file, flash etc.)
MTK Rom Studio (1.1.77.301)(by Linerty)(please use Google)
Multiple MTK (Engineer) Apps / Tools on Google Play
----- Universal Tools -----
Google Apps (Open GApps) packages
Xposed Framework (2.7 for KK)(higher/newest versions for newer custom Android ROMs)
SuperSU (2.79)(Download the ZIP and install ZIP from from sdcard in CWM to root)
BusyBox (49)
Titanium Backup (8.0.0)(backup/restore, and remove or move apps, also system apps)
FDroid App Market (non Google approved Apps, like AdAway add blocker!)(COULD BE DANGEROUS)
Fixes
No current fixes, as all big problems seem fixed in KitKat (RC19)(see Updates section)...
PS. cyclon1978 custom kernel with inverted Y-ax for replacement screens in first part of this post!
Hacks
A MEGA load of hacks/mods available in Xposed Framework, so install it and look for Xposed Modules doing what you want!
Change IMEI of Phone 1 or Phone 2 easily with lots of MTK apps from Google Play store! WARNING: MAY BE VERY ILLEGAL IN YOUR COUNTRY! (Is NOT in mine, NL)
To boot into recovery/fastboot mode, hold Volume Up while powering device on.
To boot into Factory (Test) mode, hold Volume Down while powering device on.
To make Acer's drivers also recovery/fastboot compatible, add this line to your "android_winusb.inf" files in the maps in submap "drivers" (and then install/update drivers in Windows Device Manager): %SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C01
Repartition and extend space to SD with Meteos App here or here (root required)(more partition info here)(not tested yet)
Use external SD for apps with the famous INT2EXT script or check all options like App2SD, Mount2SD, Data2SD etc
PS. cyclon1978 custom kernel with inverted Y-ax for replacement screens in first part of this post!
More?
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Made by Hackwerk: Feel totally free to press the Thanks button if you like my work. Took a lot of my time!
Post simple/stupid/IDoNotUnderstand questions in the Q&A subthread (button under thread title) please!
Special thanks for testing and assisting me go to (random order):
Carliv (Touch Recovery), tiliarou, d3nnisd, Dakloos88, Shreps, vache, cyclon1978
I've managed to make a backup using MTK droid and root tool. hackwerk, it seems you are getting ahead of me now can you post your recovery if it's working ? thanks !
Is it safe to install and activate Xposed framework on the E3 ?
I got a notification today about a 8.23 Mb update ! But there is no changelog anywhere and I don't want to install it yet...
Anyone got it ?
tiliarou said:
I've managed to make a backup using MTK droid and root tool. hackwerk, it seems you are getting ahead of me now can you post your recovery if it's working ? thanks !
Is it safe to install and activate Xposed framework on the E3 ?
I got a notification today about a 8.23 Mb update ! But there is no changelog anywhere and I don't want to install it yet...
Anyone got it ?
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Yes I already have a datamap / scatter file (from MTK Droid) and used it succesfully to dump / backup all blocks to images (recovery.img boot.img android.img etc) on my non-rooted phone! (however USERDATA block fails in SP Flash Tool, and I do not know the end address of the ROM thus cannot dump the last block (__NODL_BMTPOOL))
Made a CWM custom recovery with the Official CWM Builder online, but the new output recovery was larger than my stock input one!?
Big problem for now, as I cannot fit it in the current recovery space?!
Xposed I do not know? However I strongly advise everyone NOT to install / run programs or apps or packages etc which are not on XDA or are closed source! There's a LOT of virussing / spying / trojanning going on in this world.
The official Acer update is only (as far as I found out);
1) Update of the build from Acer_AV052_E380_1.007.00_EMEA_GEN1 > Acer_AV052_E380_1.012.00_EMEA_GEN1
2) Update of the APN version from APN 2.053 > APN 2.062
I colored the 2 changes green in my FP.
So just do it, its fine I guess, and we will get Android 4.4 Kit Kat soon anyways...
Ok, and do you think that with root I would be able to retrieve this last block ?
I can confirm that even after reboot the root is there ! I used Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to make the OTA update, just to be safe and it managed after 2 restores to put back root. I don't know if it was needed.
I don't see any change with this update, just a traduction error corrected in the settings menu (flip cover wake up)...
Would be nice to have a changelog from Acer just to know !
I can also confirm that Xposed Framework is perfectly working on this phone.
tiliarou said:
Ok, and do you think that with root I would be able to retrieve this last block ?
I can confirm that even after reboot the root is there ! I used Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to make the OTA update, just to be safe and it managed after 2 restores to put back root. I don't know if it was needed.
I don't see any change with this update, just a traduction error corrected in the settings menu (flip cover wake up)...
Would be nice to have a changelog from Acer just to know !
I can also confirm that Xposed Framework is perfectly working on this phone.
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Size of the last 2 partitions is now known and added but the reason it cannot be read by SP Flash Tool is that the sizes are not a multiple of 512 or so!?
Yeah baby! Great news!
I managed to install the ClockworkMod Recovery (rua1 autoCWM 5.5.0.4) made by the MTK Droid Root & Tool, and Downloading it to my phone in the older SP Flash Tool 3.1344!
After that of course installed SuperSU and we are ROOT, by a simpel/safe/clean method!
Links and stuff are in the first post.
Problems/ToDo now:
1) This CWM is removed after a normal (re)boot and replaced by the stock one (Android system recovery 3e). How!? And how to stop this?!
2) Newer CWM (6.0.4.7) like the one the online CWM Builder makes for me (altering my stock image) seems to big for the partition
3) Custom ROM making (CyanogenMod!!!), but let's wait for 4.4 Kit Kat and the sources of that, which will be available in the next months.
Data to Ext SD
We need to extend space to our external SD card, as the internal phone memory is not huge.
However I really really cannot see all differences with pro's and con's anymore between all options, so please help me!
What should we do, with this rooted stock Acer ROM (Android 4.2.2)(with EXT4 partitions and CWM recovery)?
1) Use one of the famous scripts INT2EXT, Data2EXT/D2EXT, Mount2SD/M2SD, Apps2SD/A2SD etc. etc.
1b) For INT2EXT we need Init.d support, so whats the best way to add that? An App like Init.d Toggler or Universal Init.d or so? (4.4 support would be nice!)
2) Just use simple symlinks with Link2SD/L2SD or Apps like FolderMount etc
3) Repartition and make data partition on SD, using Meteos etc
4) Use one of the many Apps to move Apps, like Titanium Backup etc.
What CAN, and SHOULD we try/use? Please advise me?
Have you already seen this behaviour of a custom recovery reverting back to stock after reboot ?
I've always used link2sd with my previous phone, so far I put my apps on sd using the android built-in option on my E3, because I haven't reached the internal storage limit yet...
Are we only 2 having this phone ?^^
tiliarou said:
Have you already seen this behaviour of a custom recovery reverting back to stock after reboot ?
I've always used link2sd with my previous phone, so far I put my apps on sd using the android built-in option on my E3, because I haven't reached the internal storage limit yet...
Are we only 2 having this phone ?^^
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From what I can see now, you should install SuperSU immediately the first time in CWM, and THEN reboot. SuperSU asks for permission for Acer system update and you should deny that. CWM will then stay. However, you could also update (to 4.4 later) and then flash the CWM again of course.
Yeah the phone is JUST released, so we are the first. Probably some more people will join in the next months!
hackwerk said:
Hackwerk's Acer Liquid E3 (E380) / ALE3 Topic
Specifications / Features / Hardware
Full specs (and E3/E380 vs E2/V370) at GSMArena
Model / Name: E380 / Acer Liquid E3 (Duo) or "ALE3"
SKU/EAN/UPC: HM.HDZEE.004.412EF4E96413 (Duo, Black) / 4713147308262 / 887899533860
(HM.HE2EE.002 = Duo in Silver / HM.HE0EE.001 = Single in black / HM.HE1EE.001 = Single in silver)
CPU/GPU: Mediatek MT6589 1.2GHz Quad-core Cortex-A7 / PowerVR SGX544
ROM/RAM: 4GB (or 16GB) / 1GB (or 2GB)
Screen: 4.7" IPS LCD, 720 x 1280, 16M
Camera back/front: 13MP, 4160 x 3120 (flash, autofocus) / 2MP (flash)
Other: Li-Po 2000mAh battery (fixed), MicroSD (to 32GB), Dual (Duo) or Single SIM, a-GPS, DTS Sound, Optional NFC
Dimensions: 138x69x9 mm (5.35x2.68x 0.35 inch), 135 g (4.73 oz)
Firmware / Software
Firmware: Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean)(4.4 Kit Kat available 2014 Q2)
Kernel: 3.4.5 [email protected] #1 (20140227)
Build: Acer_AV052_E380_1.012.00_EMEA_GEN1
Radio/band: MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V5.P47 (20140226)(APN 2.062)
Recovery: rua1 autoCWM 5.5.0.4 for E380 (custom by MTK Droid, see Tools section)(stock: Android system recovery 3e)(hold Volume Up while powering on)
ROM Dump / Partitions / Scatter
You CAN NOT dump/read your phone with the official Acer drivers (no virtual COM port)!
I now succesfully used PDANet (drivers), but a lot of people seem to use the VCOM drivers (MT6589 VCOM, MTK Preloader etc.: All the same old v 1.1123.0).
The only tool (see Tools section) working after a lot of trying (!) for me was (old) SP Flash Tool 3.1344, and sometimes the newest 3.1408, both icw MTK Droid 2.5.3!
Read these 5 great (similar) ROM dump / flash tutorials:
Tutorial 1
Tutorial 2
Tutorial 3
Tutorial 4
Tutorial 5
In this table you find the partition name (as found in my created scatter file made by MTK Droid Root & Tools (see Tools section)), then the start adress and then the length, all in hex.
PRELOADER
0x0 0xc00000
MBR
0xc00000 0x80000
EBR1
0xc80000 0x80000
__NODL_PMT
0xd00000 0x400000
__NODL_PRO_INFO
0x1100000 0x300000
__NODL_NVRAM
0x1400000 0x500000
__NODL_PROTECT_F (EXT4 mount as /protect_f)
0x1900000 0x400000
__NODL_PROTECT_S (EXT4 mount as /protect_s)
0x2300000 0xA00000
__NODL_SECCFG
0x2d00000 0x20000
UBOOT
0x2d20000 0x60000
BOOTIMG
0x2d80000 0x600000
RECOVERY
0x3380000 0x600000
SEC_RO
0x3980000 0x600000
__NODL_MISC
0x3f80000 0x80000
LOGO
0x4000000 0x300000
__NODL_EXPDB
0x4300000 0xA00000
ANDROID (EXT4 mount as /system)
0x4d00000 0x3E800000
CACHE (EXT4 mount as /cache)
0x43500000 0x7E00000
USRDATA (EXT4 mount as /data)(can not read it in SP Flash Tool, because "length does not allign"?!)
0x4b300000 0xB4CF00A8
__NODL_BMTPOOL (can not read it in SP Flash Tool, because "length does not allign"?!)
0xffff00a8 0x1500000
Official
The following are official Acer pages/links, but content IS different on all other languages/regions (so try others)!
Product page (UK)
Support page (UK)(drivers/source/manuals)
USB Driver v1.0 AV052 (do NOT work with tools (flashing and dumping etc), as you need PDAnet or VCOM drivers for that (see ROM Dump section))
Kernel Sources v20140307 (4.2.2)
Manual (ENG)(Duo)
Rooting (CWM > SuperSU)
WARNING: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, THIS CAN BE DIFFICULT OR EVEN DANGEROUS!!!
Steps 0-4 are to be found explained more thouroughly and with images, in the tutorials in the ROM Dump section. Read them. Read them well!
All tools can be found in the Tools section.
0) Install drivers with a good USB virtual COM port emulation. Most simple is to install PDANet (4.15), but lot of people seem to use the VCOM drivers / MT6589 VCOM / MTK Preloader etc. (All the same old v 1.1123.0). Make sure connection is OK, and MTK Droid works (when phone is on)!
1) Create scatter file or use mine.
2) Read back (stock) recovery (or all) partitions with (old) SP Flash Tool 3.1344 using scatter from 1, or download my stock recovery img here.
3) Let MTK Droid alter the recovery image and make a custom CWM one of it.
4) Download (to phone) the custom CWM recovery with (old) SP Flash Tool 3.1344 using scatter from 1, or use mine.
5) Copy SuperSU zip to SD card, and boot your phone into CWM recovery (hold volume up and turn phone on), and then Install zip from SD > install SuperSU. Do it the first time in CWM, because a reboot without root REVERTS recovery to stock (safety by Acer?!)!
6) YOU ARE ROOTED!
7) Install BusyBox (see Tools section)
WARNING: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, THIS CAN BE DIFFICULT OR EVEN DANGEROUS!!!
Root Tools (Simple / OneClick)
WARNING: ALL METHODS AT YOUR OWN RISK (NOT TROJAN OR MAL-/SPYWARE CHECKED)!!!
Working (confirmed):
Kingo (1.2.1 used)(at your own risk, closed source and controversial)
Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper (keep root after updates, for rooted phones)
May be working / Not tested:
CF Auto Root
Bin4ry v33
OneClickRoot
Universal Rooter 1.1
SRS Root
VRoot
ERoot
Not (yet) working/modded (confirmed):
Framaroot (E2/V370 etc etc)(1.9.1 tested)
MotoChopper = MT6589_rooter = MT6589_rooting_pkg by Dan Rosenberg (@djrbliss)(universal MT6589)(1.1 tested)
SuperOneClick
E350 Liquid Gallant method
Please message me your own test results and additions!!!
WARNING: ALL METHODS AT YOUR OWN RISK (NOT TROJAN OR MAL-/SPYWARE CHECKED)!!!
Developing / Custom ROM's
None yet, but we hope for a CyanogenMod and ClockworkMod Recovery, although this MediaTek support is not expected :crying:
But due to the fact that the E2 and E3 are almost the same (a part from the screen and cams), we hope for mods/ports of for instance:
E2 SC0RPION ROM
E2 JellyXperia ROM
E2 MIUI 5 ROM
Your custom ROM for the E3 here soon?
Kernel sources in the Official section!!!
Tools / Fixes / Hacks
Kernel sources can be found in the Official section!!!
Tools
MTK2000 is a great MediaTek-hack site with frequent updates of SP/MTK Flash Tool and more!
SP Flash Tool / Smart Phone Flash Tool (v3.1408.00)(super tool for MT65xx phones!)(new code/layout from 3.1352 up, and for recovery flash you MUST use older 3.1344 etc!!!)
MTK Flash Tool (v5.1320)(super tool for MT62xx phones!)
MTK Droid Root & Tools (2.5.3)(great tool, to create scatter (datamap) file (Succeeded! See ROM Dump section) etc.)
MTK Rom Studio (1.1.77.266)(by Linerty)
Multiple MTK (Engineer) Apps / Tools on Google Play, like Mobileuncle MTK Tools (2.9.9)
Xposed (2.5.1) Framework (modify ROM without flashing)
Titanium Backup (6.1.5.4)(backup/restore, and remove or move apps, also system apps)
SuperSU (1.94)(install via CWM to root phones etc)
BusyBox (11 / 1.22.1)
Fixes
Bad GPS fix with MobileUncle MTK Tools (or MT GPS EPO Fix)
Camerafix (by ventus00): Drag Camera app to homescreen into "App info" which brings you to "Gallery" app info. Press Force stop > Clear data. What fixed the cam was pressing "Clear defaults" under "Launch by default".
Hacks
To boot into recovery/fastboot mode, hold Volume Up while powering device on.
To make Acer's drivers also recovery/fastboot compatible, add this line to your "android_winusb.inf" files in the maps in submap "drivers" (and then install/update drivers in Windows Device Manager): %SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C01
Repartition and extend space to SD with Meteos App here or here (root required)(more partition info here)(not tested yet)
Use external SD for apps with the famous INT2EXT script or check all options like App2SD, Mount2SD, Data2SD etc
More?
To Do / Problems
Which script/app to use for data > ext SD? See post #6 etc!
Which method to use to get init.d support?
Custom recovery ClockworkMod RUNNING (5.5.0.4 with MTK Droid) but the CWM custom one from CWM Builder online) seems to large :/
Besides the CWM, build and test custom TWRP Recovery, and Carliv Touch Recovery.
No custom ROM like CyanogenMod yet :/
Made by Hackwerk, and feel totally free to press the Thanks button if you like my work. It took a lot of my spare time!
(special thanks to tiliarou for testing, and d3nnisd for the first/old thread)
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Porting custom roms from Acer Liquid E2 to Acer Liquid E3 it's very simple.
All you need to do is to take boot.img (kernel) from your stock rom and then if you want I can help you to port kernel to your e3
marcogiannetta said:
Porting custom roms from Acer Liquid E2 to Acer Liquid E3 it's very simple.
All you need to do is to take boot.img (kernel) from your stock rom and then if you want I can help you to port kernel to your e3
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Welcome Marco and thanks!
Our ALE3 stock boot.img and the kernel source (both still 4.2.2) are already available and I really welcome you to help us.
Although we are also very much waiting for the 4.4 Kit Kat release which is almost there (Q2)!
Ps. Is it (still) hard/impossible to get a CyanogenMod (which I LOVE and am very used to) clone running on our ALE3 (because of MediaTek MT6589?)?
Unlock
Can you tell me if any of the above will unlock my new E380 ? Or do I need to wait for a custom ROM to be ported ?
Many thanks.
hackwerk said:
Welcome Marco and thanks!
Our ALE3 stock boot.img and the kernel source (both still 4.2.2) are already available and I really welcome you to help us.
Although we are also very much waiting for the 4.4 Kit Kat release which is almost there (Q2)!
Ps. Is it (still) hard/impossible to get a CyanogenMod (which I LOVE and am very used to) clone running on our ALE3 (because of MediaTek MT6589?)?
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I own a Acer Liquid E2 and I ported CM11 from Wiko Stairway (MT6589) to my phone thanks to some patches and libs. At the moment developers have to fix camera,bluetooth, hw acceleration and some little bugs.
I can port this roms but I haven't got a Acer Liquid E3 so I can't test them.
EDIT: I'm gonna port these kernels, but I can't upload those roms because of my bad connection
So all you had to do is to download the roms, replace my kernel in the rom and replace libs with stock libs (they are located in system/lib/modules )
Jellyxperia kernel:
https://mega.co.nz/#!8ZVHzTwJ!kQO_A9AJdLx2Mz3u1ctZ5-IhuEUZvFJOb-SxG9LuyJA
MIUI kernel
https://mega.co.nz/#!gJtQVSCQ!5IdxGHxOobBfGblp8Dd7AUM03prNScxaIudSXT5879E
Try and tell me if I succeed
As long as key features of our (ALE3) phone are not supported in custom ROMs, like camera, I will not (try to) flash/test or modify them.
I am not a developer, and I really demand basic features like making a picture
And again, maybe we should start fukkin around when 4.4 (and sources of 4.4?) are released!
hackwerk said:
As long as key features of our (ALE3) phone are not supported in custom ROMs, like camera, I will not (try to) flash/test or modify them.
I am not a developer, and I really demand basic features like making a picture
And again, maybe we should start fukkin around when 4.4 (and sources of 4.4?) are released!
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You didn't understand me, those bugs (like camera) are only in CM11.
MIUI, Scorpions and Jellyxperia work fine
pwwuk said:
Can you tell me if any of the above will unlock my new E380 ? Or do I need to wait for a custom ROM to be ported ?
Many thanks.
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What exactly do you mean by unlock? Rooting? Pattern/PIN lock? SIM / network lock?
Rooting:
See the first post (FP) / topic start (TS) if rooting is what you want and try the simple but obscure Kingo method or flash CWM and install SuperSU etc (complicated but trusted / universal method).
SIM / Network lock:
If rooted, you can install all apps (signed and unsigned) and do everything in your phone you want to, so install a SIM unlock app (OWN RISK), or use a complicated but more trusted file edit method (OWN RISK). A good app option seems to be the famous MobileUncle MTK Tools (see Tools section in FP), as it has a Permanent Unlock option for both SIMs in the Engineer Mode (MTK)!
PIN / Pattern:
A million methods via ADB, or (CWM) recovery etc, like these, but just Google man!
marcogiannetta said:
You didn't understand me, those bugs (like camera) are only in CM11.
MIUI, Scorpions and Jellyxperia work fine
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So you have CM11 running, but with these problems (because of the MT6589), on your ALE2?
And you did (or also) run customs SC0RPION, JellyXperia and MIUI (only/all three?) and without big problems (so I can probably use those on daily basis)?
Which one do you like best? SC0RPION seems most updated, newest and best fitting (ALE2 based), MIUI seems older and simpler, and Jelly is based on an other phone?!
I do not understand how I would be able to port them to our ALE3. Can you explain it more elaborate please?
hackwerk said:
What exactly do you mean by unlock? Rooting? Pattern/PIN lock? SIM / network lock?
Rooting:
See the first post (FP) / topic start (TS) if rooting is what you want and try the simple but obscure Kingo method or flash CWM and install SuperSU etc (complicated but trusted / universal method).
SIM / Network lock:
If rooted, you can install all apps (signed and unsigned) and do everything in your phone you want to, so install a SIM unlock app (OWN RISK), or use a complicated but more trusted file edit method (OWN RISK). A good app option seems to be the famous MobileUncle MTK Tools (see Tools section in FP), as it has a Permanent Unlock option for both SIMs in the Engineer Mode (MTK)!
PIN / Pattern:
A million methods via ADB, or (CWM) recovery etc, like these, but just Google man!
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Many thanks,
Yes I meant network unlock (use a phone on an alternate network to that to which it is locked)
Three (UK) have kindly agreed to unlock without charge .. So I just need to root as I need to port some sideloaded apps accross from an old HD.
All the best
Peter
hackwerk said:
So you have CM11 running, but with these problems (because of the MT6589), on your ALE2?
And you did (or also) run customs SC0RPION, JellyXperia and MIUI (only/all three?) and without big problems (so I can probably use those on daily basis)?
Which one do you like best? SC0RPION seems most updated, newest and best fitting (ALE2 based), MIUI seems older and simpler, and Jelly is based on an other phone?!
I do not understand how I would be able to port them to our ALE3. Can you explain it more elaborate please?
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CM11 is still buggy on mt6589, not only on my phone.
I tried those roms and they are bugfree except jellyxperia which is not multilanguage, in fact only english and chinese.
Honestly I prefer Sc0rpion rom because of its performance/battery life.
About porting roms, you should follow these steps:
1 - Download rom you want to port
2 - On your stock rom, go to system/lib/modules and copy all the libs inside this folder on your sd card
3 - Open custom rom zip and replace custom libs (in the same folder) with your libs
4 - Now replace boot.img of the rom with the ported boot.img which I gave you (i.e. ALE3Jellyxperia)
5 - Make a backup of your stock rom, Wipe data/factory reset and flash the zip in CWM
Yesterday I forgot Sc0rpion kernel, so you can download it here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!1Fl1FKbC!-tTMxyfDJl3_GrmvnCdYywXkutZv3trvxl4XyyA_r6k
Please tell me if you have any problem
marcogiannetta said:
CM11 is still buggy on mt6589, not only on my phone.
I tried those roms and they are bugfree except jellyxperia which is not multilanguage, in fact only english and chinese.
Honestly I prefer Sc0rpion rom because of its performance/battery life.
About porting roms, you should follow these steps:
1 - Download rom you want to port
2 - On your stock rom, go to system/lib/modules and copy all the libs inside this folder on your sd card
3 - Open custom rom zip and replace custom libs (in the same folder) with your libs
4 - Now replace boot.img of the rom with the ported boot.img which I gave you (i.e. ALE3Jellyxperia)
5 - Make a backup of your stock rom, Wipe data/factory reset and flash the zip in CWM
Yesterday I forgot Sc0rpion kernel, so you can download it here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!1Fl1FKbC!-tTMxyfDJl3_GrmvnCdYywXkutZv3trvxl4XyyA_r6k
Please tell me if you have any problem
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Thanks a lot but after my whole journey (see FP) I just finished configging my phone and am very happy at the moment.
I will try it later, but maybe 4.4 (will be released for us, inc kernel source) will be my next step, and I hope CM11 4.4 customly made from/for this!
How did you make these boot.img images for our ALE3 (from ALE2) btw?
hackwerk said:
Thanks a lot but after my whole journey (see FP) I just finished configging my phone and am very happy at the moment.
I will try it later, but maybe 4.4 (will be released for us, inc kernel source) will be my next step, and I hope CM11 4.4 customly made from/for this!
How did you make these boot.img images for our ALE3 (from ALE2) btw?
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I unpacked ALE2 and ALE3 kernel. Then I packed a kernel with the ramdisk of the ALE2 and the zImage of the ALE3. That's all
Info & links For mtcd & non mtc(Intel only)Need help to build TWRP RECOVERY !!!
WE NOW HAVE ROOT
This unit works and sound great..However there are a few thing i would like to adjust...like be able to power off instead of hibernate and or set hibernation time...I would like to have back up of the shipped original rom... And dual boot os..or roms. Change buttons and switches on tool bar...Does anyone know if there is a way to dump mcu firmware....... All ideas and suggestions welcome and appreciated!! ...
Looking for help and insight into this head unit..1) lets make this rom better ..now that joying has released there intel unit i would like to get a copy of there rom and compare .... Also ANDROID 6 may be In the near future ....read links
thanks in advance
cpu info
intel link
https://software.intel.com/en-us/blo...ocessor-series
rockchip link same cpu
http://www.rock-chips.com/a/en/produ.../1125/734.html
on the intel link a little ways down the page it says
The Intel® Atom™ x3-C3230RK processor, a collaboration between Intel and Rockchip*, includes a quad-core 64-bit Intel® Atom™ CPU and an integrated 3G modem. Figure 3 describes this SKU’s high level architecture
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www...3000-brief.pdf
cool link from dongali thanks
How to extract installed apps as apk guide:
http://www.wikihow.com/Extract-APK-File-of-Any-App-on-Your-Android-Phone
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ext.ui&hl=en
cool link from doitright thanks
WHAT CAN THIS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE INTEL HEAD UNIT
https://ami.com/board-support-packages/
It looks like we should be able to get some code and kernel for android 6.0..now we just need to find someone to build a roms for us
food for thought can we do something like this for our intel units ...this could open some doors for us
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/12/...k3288-devices/
wasn't necessary thinking Linux ubuntu only...but if you made bootloader look for a system on a sd card android,linux,windows,exc...you could have a dual boot system....this would be awesome it would make it easier to mod system files and experiment with different os and have the ability to pop out the sd card and be back to stock config if you didn't want to boot off sd card make an sd card to redirect boot loader back to internal system...or if bootloader can't find a os on sd make it default back to internal system. ..I think something like this would be one of the best things that could help speed up development and allow roms that were built for different partition sizes and systems become more Universal .
Anyone want to chime in
Can this be done
Pic of unit i bought at bottom of post
firmware update link 10/12/16
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...XM?usp=sharing
original firmware update version link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz8...ew?usp=sharing
the root udate.zip link is a few pages back in this thread i think around page 23 .. on a fresh formatted usb copy update.zip ..flash from usb1 . dont check wipe
root link for mtcd
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1PAxDuZk9rHODdwNzFMR3FtOEk/view?usp=sharing
link to joying fw
heres the link to fw
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz8umNL1qrsoLVh5cHVSdmVQOWc?usp=sharing
ngochoangimsat said:
The head unit JOYING JY-UL135N2 with CPU Intel Atom Sofia come with new firmware structure (neither update.zip nor dupdate.img + dmcu.img like other Joying AMR headunit ). As you can see on this https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz8umNL1qrsoLVh5cHVSdmVQOWc
I add some file and script to 5009_20.zip to root firmware but the new firmware can't be pass the verify of upgrade screen.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Fig 1. Structure of JOYING- JY-UL135N2's firmware, these are all of the need files and directories, which we have to copy to root directory of USB Flash
Can you help us root this firmware ? https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz8umNL1qrsoLVh5cHVSdmVQOWc
Yes I have seen that that's why I wanted someone to use titanium backup on there unit and do a full backup or nandroid. Also .titanium I believe will generate a update.zip file that could be flashed...once this is done you could just do a standard restore with a titanium or nandroid backup. ....I have reached out to a few people about a multirom boot setup hopefully we can get that to work and boot and flash to sd cards....
Also remember some units are 16gb and others are 32gb so the partition tables will be different. .but that's nothing that can't mod to be fixed...another reason multirom flash to sd card would make life easier
this can be the answer if can this be done with our head unit.... http://www.xda-developers.com/install-use-multirom-xdatv/
This app only works on selected devices. Check the list at the bottom of this description.
This application requires root and it is designed to be used by experienced "power users".
It is strongly recommended to read XDA thread before installing this app, you can find links at the bottom of this description.
:fingers-crossed: can install or update MultiROM, it's recovery and kernels. It can also install Ubuntu Touch system-image based builds into MultiROM as a secondary ROM.
MultiROM is one-of-a-kind multi-boot mod for Android devices. It can boot any Android ROM as well as other systems like Ubuntu Touch. Besides booting from device's internal memory, MultiROM can boot from USB drive connected to the device via OTG cable. The main part of MultiROM is a boot manager, which appears every time your device starts and lets you choose ROM to boot. You can see how it looks on the left image below and in gallery. ROMs are installed and managed via modified TWRP recovery. You can use standard ZIP files to install secondary Android ROMs, daily prebuilt image files to install Ubuntu Touch and MultiROM even has its own installer system, which can be used to ship other Linux-based systems.
.Here's the deal... if we could dual boot another android os for head unit let just say rom from joying or other brand/manufacturer you could test rom see what works and what doesnt , modify rom ,extract apps from rom and if rom was better you could make rom you primary boot ..(i also believe we could add or mod the mcu part back in the rom).:fingers-crossed:... and you would be able to test this all with out erasing you stock configuration or stock rom ....you would be able to test and develop new updates as they come out.. you could test with out erasing or wiping your system.. you could run Ubuntu ,Ubuntu touch or other more pc based os and still have the ability to reboot and be back in radio os android mode....and I think there is a fun factor here with experimenting and adding more function to the head unit
This is what XDA is all about right!!! WHO 'S WITH ME:
Here we go build twrp for our units instructions
https://www.google.com/amp/www.xda-...for-your-device/amp/?client=ms-android-att-us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943625
Then add twrp manager
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there are now at lease two types of intel units out there ones based off mtcd and non mtc ones on a totally new board...the firmware should be similar as for there both built for intel x86....developments that help one should be able to be applied to the other...the biggest thing that i think that would help both platforms would be the ability to dual boot these models so you could run experimental os fw os a sd card and still have the ability to go back to stock configuration simply by removing the sd card with the os on it or just telling the bootloader to boot the stock system img....thist is where i think we need to focus and develop.....
Joying JY-UL135N2 2G RAM 32G (Intel Sofia3g and STM8S207C8T6 MCU)
My unit:
Joying JY-UL135N2 2G RAM 32G (Intel Sofia3g, STM8S207C8T6 MCU, TDA7388)
This is not MTCD based unit. My MCU chip is STM8S207C8T6
I got following MCU Version: 2016-08-29 15:46:12 JY_(NOR)__90_C9_7706_5009_CAN(GX)_Newlap.
Purchased from here: Joying on Aliexpress
Photos of the unit outside
Photos of the unit inside
Original (non-modified) boot.img and recovery.img
Note that I have not verified the content, as I do not have sufficient knowledge. I was guided by gurus to extract these partitions from the unit just in case someone really needs them. I have not tested files personally.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DmzEjJljx3bFVudFpxNzNUS3c
Root instructions (credit to Spider84 for providing instructions and modifying boot.img):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DmzEjJljx3OXlQM2RFbWp4UWc
Method 1 (didn't work for me, as I could not figure out how to enter revovery):
1) Copy to USB thumb Drive
2) install from recovery
Method 2 (didn't work for me either):
1) Copy to USB thumb Drive
2) Go to Settings -> about device -> system updates
3) System should ask if you want to install update
Method 3 (worked for me):
1) you need to know how to connect and use adb. I connected using head IP address from laptop connected to the same wifi router. I did not use any additional apps or software (other than adb from android sdk). Hint: https://developer.android.com/studio/command-line/adb.html
2) extract su.img, SuperSu.apk and boot.img form the update.zip, place it on USB drive
3) use following commands:
cd /mnt/usb_storage3 (change path according to your USB drive)
cp su.img /data/su.img
cp SuperSu.apk /data/SuperSu.apk
dd if=boot.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p9
4) reboot
THIS IS A GREAT START THANK YOU
a system ROM zip for seller would be useful ...
.also please use apk extractor (updated instructions and link in first post)and back up all apps and system apps and upload that would be helpful.....
we need a full backup copy of total system try to make with nandroid backup or titanium backup you would need root to do this ..
I just got what you've been waiting for, the Joying upgrade file dated 10-31. I have the JY-UL135N2, just like StingerRUS above. I e-mailed Joying about the update shown in Boy ka's youtube, and they sent it to me here: https://mega.nz/#!iUECzLDB!oxXcP9Xa_jOeH3NTWoqwlPNzfYbeOHcJ_hP1NhvHCQs
I kept trying to ask them to show me how to root, as stated on their website root is supported, but they kept saying it's not recommended and would "make chaos for the unit". I tried Kingoroot, but that failed. Hope this file helps.
akuma148 said:
I just got what you've been waiting for, the Joying upgrade file dated 10-31. I have the JY-UL135N2, just like StingerRUS above. I e-mailed Joying about the update shown in Boy ka's youtube, and they sent it to me here: https://mega.nz/#!iUECzLDB!oxXcP9Xa_jOeH3NTWoqwlPNzfYbeOHcJ_hP1NhvHCQs
I kept trying to ask them to show me how to root, as stated on their website root is supported, but they kept saying it's not recommended and would "make chaos for the unit". I tried Kingoroot, but that failed. Hope this file helps.
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thanks thats awsome downloading now and will add to google drive
heres the link to fw
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz8umNL1qrsoLVh5cHVSdmVQOWc?usp=sharing
My mtcd intel unit is being tested prior to be sent
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we need a a custom recovery with the ability to dual boot , install and boot os from sd card...
ikerg said:
My mtcd intel unit is being tested prior to be sent
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The rear of your unit looks pretty interesting with those 2 antennas plus the wifi antenna to the right..(that's disconnected) Unless that's GPS ?
Do you have a link for it ?
The disconnected one is the gps antenna.... The other ones:
1) wifi
2) guy from HotAudio claims to be 3G antenna
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this can be the answer if can this be done with our head unit.....http://www.xda-developers.com/install-use-multirom-xdatv/
This app only works on selected devices. Check the list at the bottom of this description.
This application requires root and it is designed to be used by experienced "power users".
It is strongly recommended to read XDA thread before installing this app, you can find links at the bottom of this description.
MultiROM Manager can install or update MultiROM, it's recovery and kernels. It can also install Ubuntu Touch system-image based builds into MultiROM as a secondary ROM.
MultiROM is one-of-a-kind multi-boot mod for Android devices. It can boot any Android ROM as well as other systems like Ubuntu Touch. Besides booting from device's internal memory, MultiROM can boot from USB drive connected to the device via OTG cable. The main part of MultiROM is a boot manager, which appears every time your device starts and lets you choose ROM to boot. You can see how it looks on the left image below and in gallery. ROMs are installed and managed via modified TWRP recovery. You can use standard ZIP files to install secondary Android ROMs, daily prebuilt image files to install Ubuntu Touch and MultiROM even has its own installer system, which can be used to ship other Linux-based systems.
Why do you want me multi OS on these units?
You will lose all the interaction with MCU, as it is programmed to interact to Android part.
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ikerg said:
Why do you want me multi OS on these units?
You will lose all the interaction with MCU, as it is programmed to interact to Android part.
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.Here's the deal... if we could dual boot another android os for head unit let just say rom from joying or other brand/manufacturer you could test rom see what works and what doesnt , modify rom ,extract apps from rom and if rom was better you could make rom you primary boot ..(i also believe we could add or mod the mcu part back in the rom):fingers-crossed:.... and you would be able to test this all with out erasing you stock configuration or stock rom ....you would be able to test and develop new updates as they come out.. you could test with out erasing or wiping your system.. you could run Ubuntu ,Ubuntu touch or other more pc based os and still have the ability to reboot and be back in radio os android mode....and I think there is a fun factor here with experimenting and adding more function to the head unit
This is what XDA is all about right WHO 'S WITH ME
Is there a Changelog for the 10-31 update file?
Never were available changelogs for updates on rk3188 and never will be on these....only our own feedback.
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senator17x said:
Is there a Changelog for the 10-31 update file?
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No log .......rom for intel joying
StingerRus do you use titanium back up and can you make a complete backup with it
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WE NOW HAVE ROOT
This unit works and sound great..However there are a few thing i would like to adjust...like be able to power off instead of hibernate and or set hibernation time...I would like to have back up of the shipped original rom... And dual boot os..or roms. Change buttons and switches on tool bar...Does anyone know if there is a way to dump mcu firmware....... All ideas and suggestions welcome and appreciated!! ...
Looking for help and insight into this head unit..1) lets make this rom better ..now that joying has released there intel unit i would like to get a copy of there rom and compare .... Also ANDROID 6 may be In the near future ....read links
thanks in advance
cpu info
intel link
https://software.intel.com/en-us/blo...ocessor-series
rockchip link same cpu
http://www.rock-chips.com/a/en/produ.../1125/734.html
on the intel link a little ways down the page it says
The Intel® Atom™ x3-C3230RK processor, a collaboration between Intel and Rockchip*, includes a quad-core 64-bit Intel® Atom™ CPU and an integrated 3G modem. Figure 3 describes this SKU’s high level architecture
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www...3000-brief.pdf
cool link from dongali thanks
How to extract installed apps as apk guide:
http://www.wikihow.com/Extract-APK-File-of-Any-App-on-Your-Android-Phone
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ext.ui&hl=en
cool link from doitright thanks
WHAT CAN THIS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE INTEL HEAD UNIT
https://ami.com/board-support-packages/
It looks like we should be able to get some code and kernel for android 6.0..now we just need to find someone to build a roms for us
food for thought can we do something like this for our intel units ...this could open some doors for us
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/12/...k3288-devices/
wasn't necessary thinking Linux ubuntu only...but if you made bootloader look for a system on a sd card android,linux,windows,exc...you could have a dual boot system....this would be awesome it would make it easier to mod system files and experiment with different os and have the ability to pop out the sd card and be back to stock config if you didn't want to boot off sd card make an sd card to redirect boot loader back to internal system...or if bootloader can't find a os on sd make it default back to internal system. ..I think something like this would be one of the best things that could help speed up development and allow roms that were built for different partition sizes and systems become more Universal .
Anyone want to chime in
Can this be done
where unit was bought
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2G-Ra...08.0.54.PW30db
firmware update link 10/12/16
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...XM?usp=sharing
original firmware update version link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz8...ew?usp=sharing
the root udate.zip link is a few pages back in this thread i think around page 23 .. on a fresh formatted usb copy update.zip ..flash from usb1 . dont check wipe
root link for mtcd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...4&d=1476629974
link to joying fw
heres the link to fw
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz8umNL1qrsoLVh5cHVSdmVQOWc?usp=sharing
this can be the answer if can this be done with our head unit.....http://www.xda-developers.com/instal...ultirom-xdatv/
This app only works on selected devices. Check the list at the bottom of this description.
This application requires root and it is designed to be used by experienced "power users".
It is strongly recommended to read XDA thread before installing this app, you can find links at the bottom of this description.
MultiROM Manager can install or update MultiROM, it's recovery and kernels. It can also install Ubuntu Touch system-image based builds into MultiROM as a secondary ROM.
MultiROM is one-of-a-kind multi-boot mod for Android devices. It can boot any Android ROM as well as other systems like Ubuntu Touch. Besides booting from device's internal memory, MultiROM can boot from USB drive connected to the device via OTG cable. The main part of MultiROM is a boot manager, which appears every time your device starts and lets you choose ROM to boot. You can see how it looks on the left image below and in gallery. ROMs are installed and managed via modified TWRP recovery. You can use standard ZIP files to install secondary Android ROMs, daily prebuilt image files to install Ubuntu Touch and MultiROM even has its own installer system, which can be used to ship other Linux-based systems.
.Here's the deal... if we could dual boot another android os for head unit let just say rom from joying or other brand/manufacturer you could test rom see what works and what doesnt , modify rom ,extract apps from rom and if rom was better you could make rom you primary boot ..(i also believe we could add or mod the mcu part back in the rom).:fingers-crossed:... and you would be able to test this all with out erasing you stock configuration or stock rom ....you would be able to test and develop new updates as they come out.. you could test with out erasing or wiping your system.. you could run Ubuntu ,Ubuntu touch or other more pc based os and still have the ability to reboot and be back in radio os android mode....and I think there is a fun factor here with experimenting and adding more function to the head unit
This is what XDA is all about right!!! WHO 'S WITH ME:
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Please tell me how to enter recovery mode for this head unit.
I did some method but all of them cant help me to enter recovery mode
[email protected] said:
No log .......rom for intel joying
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Understood. I have the Intel based JY-UL135N2 already.
Just wondering what was updated. Was hoping for some Bluetooth bug fixed for OBD2 devices.
ngochoangimsat said:
Please tell me how to enter recovery mode for this head unit.
I did some method but all of them cant help me to enter recovery mode
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Press reset and immediately after hold back button till lights flash then release count 2 second and press back again
New UMIDIGI S3 Pro
New thread for the new model UMIDIGI S3 Pro Helio P70 Octa core Mtk 6772
Umidigi S3 PRO MT6772 Octa Core 4G LTE 802.11ac 6GB 128GB Android 9 Smartphone 6,3 inches
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Specification
Basic Information
Brand: UMIDIGI
Language: Multi language
OS: Android 9 Pie
Provide Services: Unlocked
SIM Slot cards: Standby Dual
SIM Card Type: Double Nano SIM
to Sciarba type: 4G Mobile
Hardware
CPU: Helio P70
Cores: 2.1GHz, Octa Core
External Memory: TF card up to 256 GB (not included)
RAM: 6GB of RAM
ROM: 128GB
Network
2G: GSM 1800MHz, GSM 1900MHz, GSM 850MHz, GSM 900MHz
3G: UMTS (WCDMA) / HSPA + / DC-HSDPA: BAND1 / 2/4/5/6/ 8/19
Network Type: FDD-LTE, TDD-LTE , WCDMA
WI-FI: WiFi 2.4G / 5G, 802.11a / b / g / n / ac Wi-Fi
wireless Connectivity: 3G, 4G, Bluetooth, GPS, WiFi, GSM, 2.4GHz / 5GHz WiFi, A-GPS , WiFi Dual Band
4G LTE: B28a / B28b, FDD B1 2100MHz, FDD B13, FDD B17 700MHz, FDD B2 1900MHz, FDD B20 800MHz, FDD B3 1800MHz, FDD B4 1700MHz, FDD B5 850MHz, FDD B7 2600MHz, FDD B8 900MHz, TDD B38 2600MHz, TDD B39 1900MHz, 2300MHz TDD B40, B41 TDD 2500MHz
Screen
The Screen resolution: 2340 x 1080
the Screen Size: 6.3 inches
Screen Type: Capacitive
Camera
Auto Focus: Yes
Retro camera: 48.0MP 12.0MP +
Functions Camera: Beauty face, face recognition
of Camera Type: Cameras Triple
Flashlight: Yes
Camera Front: 20.0MP
Fire Touch: Yes
Video recording: Yes
Multimedia Formats
Live Wallpaper Support: Yes
MS Official format: Excel, PPT, Word
Music Format: MP3, AAC, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, APE, WAV
Picture Format: BMP, GIF, JPEG, JPG, PNG
Video format: MP4, H .264, MPEG4
Other characteristics
Additional Features: Alarm, Browser, Calculator, Calendar, Camera, E-book, fingerprint recognition, fingerprint release, Gravity sensing, Gravity Sensor System, light sensor, Light sensor system, MMS, Notification, proximity Sensor, Sound Recorder, Video Calling
Bluetooth version: Bluetooth V4.2
Google Play Store: yes
I / O Interface: 1 x Nano SIM card slot, 3.5mm audio output port, Microphone, Card Slot Nano SIM / TF Speaker, Type-C
Sensor: Accelerometer, E-Compass, geomagnetic sensor, gravity sensor, gyroscope sensor proximity
Sound Recorder: yes
Battery
Battery capacity (mAh): Built-in 5150mAh
Package Contents
Back: 1
Phone: 1
Charger: 1
SIM Needle: 1
USB cable: 1
Dimensions and weight
Package Size: 18.50 x 18.50 x 4.20 cm / 7.28 x 7.28 x 1.65 inches
Weight Package: 0.5840 kg
Product Size: 15.70 x 7.50 x 0 85 cm / 6.18 x 2.95 x 0.33 inch
Weight of Product: 0.2170 kg
Recovery modded +
How to receive Right Root in this new Device S3PRO From UMIDIGI Brand
This Thread is not for beginners and all the steps made will be down the warrancy at own risk.
This tutorial will guide you through the process of installing a custom recovery image
on your MediaTek based UMIDIGI smartphone and to receive right root access.
Some possible issues that might need your attention:
Custom recovery images of different Android versions are not always interchangeable. For example, you can't install an Android 5.0 recovery on a 4.4 system and so on. Any exceptions are mentioned in the list of recovery images.
At most of the devices, after flashing the TWRP image, first you have to boot into recovery (TWRP) or the stock recovery will be restored.
At some devices, after flashing TWRP, first you have to root your phone (install SuperSU or Magisk) or it won't be able to boot into the system.
Once you've rooted your device, you won't be able to install OTA updates anymore but the only way to update your phone is flashing with SP Flash Tool. Flashing a stock ROM (with the stock recovery) will make you able to install OTA updates again.
At some devices (or specific ROM versions), when powering on your phone to boot into TWRP (power + vol-up), after about 3 seconds, you have to release the power button (even if your screen is still black) and keep only the vol-up button pressed until the TWRP welcome screen pops up or the recovery will be skipped and your phone will boot into the system.
What you need:
Driver for Preloader USB VCOM mode:
Windows 10 already can automatically install it or you can use this:
MTK_Driver_Auto_Installer_SP_Drivers_20160804.exe
SP Flash Tool application:
SP_Flash_Tool_v5.1904
Adb Command for Windows pc:
Command adb for dos/windows
A custom recovery image that fits your phone
Twrp By material Design test 1:
Scatter + Recovery twrp
Twrp By material Design test 2:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/r486...wrp_323_Mat_Des__UmidigiS3_Pro_test2.rar/file
New Twrp 3.3.1 test 1:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kajeg9bbcb0kb55/recovery-twrp-3.3.1_Umidigi_S3_Pro_Test1.rar/file
Procedure to how to flash the Recovery into Umidigi S3 Pro
Now is not possible to flash the recovery throught flashtool because there is a bootloader locked so we must go ahead with adb command.
1) download all the previous files;
2) in Android S3 Pro in "Settings System details" enter in about phone ot make visible the developer options click several times on about phone ....
3) in Setting System will be now shown the developer menu' enter and switch to visible OEM unlocking allow the bootloader to be unlocked.
4) in Setting System --> the developer menu' --->debug usb activated and connected the usb cable to the phone and the other side to the pc...
5) Now in windows pc run the commad cmd or open a ms-dos window and enter in the adb2 folder
(adb folder when you extraced the adb command and check with adb command);
Type: adb devices .....if the device is recognized type: adb reboot bootloader
6) SEEMS NOT RUN THIS STEP IN THIS DEVICE
(reboot the phone and with power menu' and volume + in the same time enter in booting menu'.......select fastboot mode.)
7) do not remove the usb cable.....now you entered in Fastboot menu...
write the command fastboot devices...and the phone connected with the usb cable must answer the command that is connected..
8) use the command
fastboot oem unlock
o
Fastboot flashing unlock
and wait checking the device screen.....
9) copy with windows command the recovery twrp.img in the adb folder and renamed it with recovery.img
to flash in the phone use this command : Fastboot flash flash recovery recovery.img
the process will start ...and wait it...
10) make this command to reboot into recovery mode: fastboot reboot.
11) now take the buttons pushed with power menu' + volume + and select recovery mode....
12) in recovery mode will show probably russian language...skip the alert with the arrow back and enter in details menu' on the right top to change the language...
NOW NOT REBOOT INTO ANDROID SYSTEM WITHOUT MAKE THE ROOT STEPS
because the android system protection will flash automatically the recovery original and all of you will lost the recovery twrp flashed before
and all of you will repeit all the preious steps again
How to Root your Umidigi S3 Pro
How to Root:
Enter in the Recovery mode.....
You need to FORMAT the partition given TWICE a simple deletion is not enough it seems in Android 7 and upper.
Follow this procedure in this exact order and should solve most problems.
1. Install TWRP through flashtool or adb command and then directly restore in recovery (twrp) do not enter in android system under penalty of twrp deletion and restoration of the original recovery.
2. Select Wipe / Advanced / select date Yes to confirm. When finished, choose Restart, then always in recovery.
3. Choose Wipe Advanced Format DATA again type Yes to confirm When it ends choose Restart always in recovery.
4. Select Wipe and select cache and Dalvik scroll to confirm When it finishes choose Restart and always in Recovery.
5. Now install Magisk 17.1 use this version tested
Magisk 17.1 (Tested)
you can restart in the android system and you will find magisk installed.
For a full root you have to install from the play store busybox app and install the busybox binaries at least in sbin and bin (system folders) the app will guide you
Busybox see here:
Busybox in the google playstore
I prefer this app to others because of its track automation that doesn't require much experience.
@Everybody
the custom recovery twrp test1 is already in testng phase.....................
This could be best in class for the price ($279.99 on sale). What's the developer community like for Umidigi? Is bootloader normally unlockable etc? Very tempting compared to Redmi Note 7 Pro
Just purchased one, well soon see how good.
any word on root?
THANK YOU
Woooo-hooooooo! got me one ordered....
I cannot wait to see That you guys (and ladies) have
in store for this phone. hopefully as many goodies as you have for galaxy s5
-----and,......thank you ALL for all of that, by the way.....you guys are
:good::good: !!!AWESOME!!!:good::good:
Don't get your hopes up... there is no root for the S2 Pro still. I read something about efuse protection but unconfirmed.
Hoping a dev will try to root this S3 Pro
...and that UmiDigi learned from their previous mistakes and deliver a great phone with no camera/battery/charge-port issues, that is really running Pie.
It is a big gamble, but one I was willing to make for $289.
BOUNTY: If a Dev does make a way to root my S3 Pro, I will send them a free S2 (lightly used, doesn't always charge but does sometimes, and always works when plugged in). -lol, if they want it.
(Bounty not valid if it turns out the phone is easily rooted using available tools)
Hi, yes when the device will arrive in my hands i will continue to make a review and i will open a specific detailed thread about how to receive right root and others mods on it!
Can't wait for my Umidigi S3 Pro that is due to arrive in 1-2 weeks.
Generally, do you guys know what is Mediatek devices development like? Any hope for the P70 processor to get some custom ROMs?
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stazz83 said:
Can't wait for my Umidigi S3 Pro that is due to arrive in 1-2 weeks.
Generally, do you guys know what is Mediatek devices development like? Any hope for the P70 processor to get some custom ROMs?
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Is too early to speak about the custom rom... This device is not arrived to anyone and no one firmware is pubblished yet!
Yeah, true, but my question is about Mediatek devices development in general. What could we hope for?
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Project treble
ghost45 said:
Is too early to speak about the custom rom... This device is not arrived to anyone and no one firmware is pubblished yet!
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Will treble project be possible on this device?
totmakina said:
Will treble project be possible on this device?
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Probably yes when it will arrive in my hands..
ghost45 said:
Probably yes when it will arrive in my hands..
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Thanks. The S3 pro will be an excellent mobile. With twrp already impressive !!
I don't know guys... I'm worried about this phone and the camera app. Do you have any informations about slow motion video and night mode photography? For this Sony sensor and this processor should be super easy...
But te umidigi team is really small and I'm worried that they don't know how to use potential of this Sony camera sensor and mediatek processor.
I hope I can install GCAM or openCamera
I see they have huge problem to sent s3 pro to indigogo customers but what about aliexpress customers...? How long we have to wait for it?
The twrp is pubblished in official forum... I will update also this thread.. I need a period of test phase....
Good Notice! TWRP!!
ghost45 said:
The twrp is pubblished in official forum... I will update also this thread.. I need a period of test phase....
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Hello Ghost! I already saw the publication of your post in the official forum. Now download the twrp and also download the official rom to have it in reserve.
Hopy bought the s3 pro. I just hoped that the official rom would come out to carry a twrp that already had realme u1 if no one did it. But luckily you posted one that will be installed when I get the smartphone. When I arrive, you can count on me for any help. It would be nice to have treble for this team. We trust you !!
Hi
Just received this phone, do you know if xda will open a new dedicated forum?
Thx
cy-rock said:
Hi
Just received this phone, do you know if xda will open a new dedicated forum?
Thx
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How long did it take to receive it, my friend? I asked for it yesterday and I already want to have it in the. Hands