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I'm fairly new to this so please be nice. There's something I don't quite understand. As the front page article points out to the recent unlocking of the S3
The devs here at XDA came to rescue shortly and it was rooted, but custom ROMs and kernels were still a no-go.
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I've been seeing custom ROMs all over the Android Development sub forum (Synergy, CleanROM just to name a few off the top). How can they be flashed if the bootloader is locked? Am I missing something?
DangerIsGo said:
I'm fairly new to this so please be nice. There's something I don't quite understand. As the front page article points out to the recent unlocking of the S3
I've been seeing custom ROMs all over the Android Development sub forum (Synergy, CleanROM just to name a few off the top). How can they be flashed if the bootloader is locked? Am I missing something?
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The bootloader just got unlocked, like, within the hour.
There was a workaround called kexec which allowed kernels and other ROMS to be flashed.
Some ROMS like Synergy only change the system folder which means the bootloader isn't a problem (no custom kernel, etc)
DangerIsGo said:
I'm fairly new to this so please be nice. There's something I don't quite understand. As the front page article points out to the recent unlocking of the S3
I've been seeing custom ROMs all over the Android Development sub forum (Synergy, CleanROM just to name a few off the top). How can they be flashed if the bootloader is locked? Am I missing something?
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Those are stock ROMs that only require the phone to be rooted.
Current ROMs use an exploit that bypasses the locked bootloader. This means that custom kernels had to use kexec, which is now not needed.
There is something in the booting of the phone and this article is very interesting and also very informative.
So what Roms kernels can we use now that the boot loader is unlocked?
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tonytownsend said:
So what Roms kernels can we use now that the boot loader is unlocked?
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whichever one you wish.. just as long as its a build for the vzw sgs3
So I unlocked the boot loader is there anywhere to see that this has happened?
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Hey guys huge beginner on this type of stuff. I have one simple question though.
I know there is now a way to Root my phone, but not unlock the bootloader? So I'm wondering, is there any way for me to get a rom that is based off 4.3 at this current moment or am I out of luck?
Jestified said:
Hey guys huge beginner on this type of stuff. I have one simple question though.
I know there is now a way to Root my phone, but not unlock the bootloader? So I'm wondering, is there any way for me to get a rom that is based off 4.3 at this current moment or am I out of luck?
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Yes, you can root your phone. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are two different things. If you're on the latest update, you won't be able to unlock anyway. If your BL isn't unlocked, you won't be able to use any of the 4.3 based ROMs. I don't think there have been any developed for use on SafeStrap.
If your on the new update you can't unlock your bootloader. Which means the best you'll get get is debloated stock roms.
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deeje00 said:
If your on the new update you can't unlock your bootloader. Which means the best you'll get get is debloated stock roms.
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I'm listening....? "debloated stock rom"?
Jestified said:
I'm listening....? "debloated stock rom"?
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Debloated stock just means is the Verizon builds, just with some of the extra software taken out and tweaked. It's not like cyanogen mod which had more options and tweaks. But with a locked bootloader its the best your gonna get.
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clouse2013 said:
Debloated stock just means is the Verizon builds, just with some of the extra software taken out and tweaked. It's not like cyanogen mod which had more options and tweaks. But with a locked bootloader its the best your gonna get.
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However, you can use Xposed Framework to do a lot of modding/tweaking to a stock ROM. I am running a custom ROM, but I still use Xposed for a lot of things. You can theme your stock ROM in ways that are very similar to having a theme manager on AOSP ROMs.
have you verified for sure that you cannot unlock the bootloader? it doesn't hurt to try, unless you already tried.
What version is the build?
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iBolski said:
have you verified for sure that you cannot unlock the bootloader? it doesn't hurt to try, unless you already tried.
What version is the build?
Sent from my Droid RAZR MAXX HD under an Eclipse.
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system version 9.18.79 so i'm assuming it isn't possible
Jestified said:
system version 9.18.79 so i'm assuming it isn't possible
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Yup. That's the version you don't want to see if you haven't unlocked the boot loader.
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iBolski said:
Yup. That's the version you don't want to see if you haven't unlocked the boot loader.
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Unless his BL was unlocked prior to that update.
Oops. Double post for some reason!
DeadPhoenix said:
Unless his BL was unlocked prior to that update.
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Which is why I said if you haven't unlocked the bootloader.
Once it's unlocked, it's unlocked. You can't lock it back up because apparently, it's a physical change in the phone, such as a fuse being blown or something like that. At least, that's what I've read. http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
Apparently, it's something Qualcomm has created called a QFuse. These are software programmable fuses that once blown, they can NEVER be put back to their prior state. In Motorola devices, there is a FORCE_TRUSTED_BOOT QFuse. This is all explained by Dan Rosenburg who is the developer that gave us the ability to unlock our Droid RAZR HDs. it's a good read and explains a lot.
Of course, it never hurts to try and unlock it after downgrading back to the previous version.
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Of course, it never hurts to try and unlock it after downgrading back to the previous version.
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doesn't hurt but is 100% pointless, as the system version has nothing to do with the trust zone files that cant be changed back.
the system version serves as a reference point to when it used to be possible in relation to the other files that were irrevocably updated, nothing more.
How to unlock Bootloader Version 9.20.1
I want Flash Kitkat 4.4.2, need unlock Bootloader and flash recovery.
older Version Can unlocker ,but my phone already upgrade to 9.20.1
islawn said:
How to unlock Bootloader Version 9.20.1
I want Flash Kitkat 4.4.2, need unlock Bootloader and flash recovery.
older Version Can unlocker ,but my phone already upgrade to 9.20.1
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You can't unlock the BL on that system version. That's the version that they locked up the bootloader with.
If downgrade 9.16 ,Can it be UNlocked
islawn said:
If downgrade 9.16 ,Can it be UNlocked
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No. Once you update, the trusted zone gets locked. It won't open back up.
Hmm.....
It's looks only one way:
Wait Wanrranty End , Moto Official unlock.
OR someone hack Unlock code Like moto official code .Simulation Moto Official unlock, Just fun think
islawn said:
Hmm.....
It's looks only one way:
Wait Wanrranty End , Moto Official unlock.
OR someone hack Unlock code Like moto official code .Simulation Moto Official unlock, Just fun think
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Moto official unlock only works on the Developer's Editions.
RikRong said:
Moto official unlock only works on the Developer's Editions.
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Actually, my device is not Developer's Edition and I could unlock its bootloader following Motorola's official unlock from de link below:
(I can't post the link because I have less than 10 posts, but if you google "What devices are supported by the Bootloader Unlock program?", Moto's official website should be on the first page)
In case you couldn't find it, PM me.
Hope it helps.
xRaFa said:
Actually, my device is not Developer's Edition and I could unlock its bootloader following Motorola's official unlock from de link below:
(I can't post the link because I have less than 10 posts, but if you google "What devices are supported by the Bootloader Unlock program?", Moto's official website should be on the first page)
In case you couldn't find it, PM me.
Hope it helps.
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You would have been the first and only one that we've seen where this worked. If it was that easy, everyone would do it and have an unlocked bootloader. However, that is not the case.
he has the xt925 edition probably lol
RikRong said:
You would have been the first and only one that we've seen where this worked. If it was that easy, everyone would do it and have an unlocked bootloader. However, that is not the case.
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peladoro said:
he has the xt925 edition probably lol
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Shoot, you're probably right. I need to pay attention to whether I'm in the M forum or the HD forum.
peladoro said:
he has the xt925 edition probably lol
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Thanks every give the info about the unlock, It's no hope eat kitkat....... ，only wait official.
peladoro said:
he has the xt925 edition probably lol
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Thanks your info , I no hope eat kitkat now , Only wait official .......
peladoro said:
he has the xt925 edition probably lol
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BTW if I got a 925, does anyone know if vzw would activate it? Has anyone done it?
As was suggested to me, i rooted and unlocked bootloader with motochopper and motocopalyse without a hitch....took less than 2 minutes it took me way longer to decide to do it lol. flashed the recovery via adb and again without a hitch. used rootjunky's site as tutorial
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BTW if I got a 925, does anyone know if vzw would activate it? Has anyone done it?
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peladoro said:
As was suggested to me, i rooted and unlocked bootloader with motochopper and motocopalyse without a hitch....took less than 2 minutes it took me way longer to decide to do it lol. flashed the recovery via adb and again without a hitch. used rootjunky's site as tutorial
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Verizon will rarely let foreign phones on their network. I think you read my post too quickly, but thanks anyway.
oh yeah...sorry about that. i'll shut up now...
aviwdoowks said:
Verizon will rarely let foreign phones on their network. I think you read my post too quickly, but thanks anyway.
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Hello all
whether there is someone who can help me? how to downgrade the version 4.4.2 to version 4.1.2? Can it? This is now my device was installed Superlite rom (using safestrap). but I also want to use another rom. like rom LP or MM. What can be installed using safestrap? someone please help me. thank you
ElevenSide said:
Hello all
whether there is someone who can help me? how to downgrade the version 4.4.2 to version 4.1.2? Can it? This is now my device was installed Superlite rom (using safestrap). but I also want to use another rom. like rom LP or MM. What can be installed using safestrap? someone please help me. thank you
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3 Roms, Superlite, stock and Paul Pizz. You cannot and it's nearly impossible to downgrade. A jtag is the only option. Attempting to downgrade will brick your device
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ShapesBlue said:
3 Roms, Superlite, stock and Paul Pizz. You cannot and it's nearly impossible to downgrade. A jtag is the only option. Attempting to downgrade will brick your device
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Where do you think is better between Superlite and Paulpizz? and how do I check the IMEI and test mode on my device?
ElevenSide said:
Where do you think is better between Superlite and Paulpizz? and how do I check the IMEI and test mode on my device?
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Honestly I wouldn't know. I have an unlocked bootloader. You'd have to ask someone else on that one. There are apps in the play store to check the IMEI. Unsure what you would even need the test mode for as they have disabled most of the testing on the S3 models
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ShapesBlue said:
Honestly I wouldn't know. I have an unlocked bootloader. You'd have to ask someone else on that one. There are apps in the play store to check the IMEI. Unsure what you would even need the test mode for as they have disabled most of the testing on the S3 models
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ok. thank you for your responses to all my questions. Now I so understand. Goodjob And Goodluck
Superlite imo is better
XxD34THxX said:
Superlite imo is better
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ok. thanks
Do you know what that means? (on picture). how can we know the device is already unlocked bootloader?
That means nothing much, only that knox/firmware knows that you flashed odin or another ROM.
Go into the stock recovery and post a picture of that.
If it DOES NOT SAY NE1, your bootloader can be unlocked AFAIK.
If it DOES SAY NE1, JTAG is your only hope to downgrade(and it isn't worth it on a device this old imo)
XxD34THxX said:
That means nothing much, only that knox/firmware knows that you flashed odin or another ROM.
Go into the stock recovery and post a picture of that.
If it DOES NOT SAY NE1, your bootloader can be unlocked AFAIK.
If it DOES SAY NE1, JTAG is your only hope to downgrade(and it isn't worth it on a device this old imo)
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Go into stock recovery? But i use safestrap
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ElevenSide said:
Go into recovery? But i use safestrap
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Safestrap is a version of a recovery
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I want to unlock bootloader before i start using view 10 permanently as unlocking bootloader wipes data. So i wanted to know does unlocking bootloader stops view 10 from receiving ota updates too. Pls help
No, if only unlock it you will still receive OTA updates.
Once you flash TWRP or a custom rom you won't get them any more
Nimueh said:
No, if only unlock it you will still receive OTA updates.
Once you flash TWRP or a custom rom you won't get them any more
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Thanx bro cause someone was saying that after unlocking bootloader he received update but then after flashing the update his update option went away. He says no matter whatever update now he flashes, he still remains on his previous version. So wanted to confirm this
Btw what is the command to relock bootloader
powerasp said:
Thanx bro cause someone was saying that after unlocking bootloader he received update but then after flashing the update his update option went away. He says no matter whatever update now he flashes, he still remains on his previous version. So wanted to confirm this
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No idea about that, I was only n stock long enough to get one update lol. Now I'm on a custom rom so I won't get them any more anyway
But from all I know the bootloader unlock has absolutely nothing to do with updates, only flashing a custom recovery or rom will stop them.
Nimueh said:
No idea about that, I was only n stock long enough to get one update lol. Now I'm on a custom rom so I won't get them any more anyway
But from all I know the bootloader unlock has absolutely nothing to do with updates, only flashing a custom recovery or rom will stop them.
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Yup i also know the same thing. Scared about these kirin devices. Anyway when u updated ur bootloader was unlocked before that
powerasp said:
Yup i also know the same thing. Scared about these kirin devices. Anyway when u updated ur bootloader was unlocked before that
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Yes it was - unlocking was the 1st thing I did :laugh: :angel:
I wouldn't worry about it anyway - if all else fails you can just re-lock the bootloader again. Or do what I did, ditch Emui and use a nice OpenKirin custom rom
Nimueh said:
Yes it was - unlocking was the 1st thing I did :laugh: :angel:
I wouldn't worry about it anyway - if all else fails you can just re-lock the bootloader again. Or do what I did, ditch Emui and use a nice OpenKirin custom rom
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Which custom roms for this rom are nice. My previous phone was a mi phone, it had a huge developer base so too many roms. I liked cardinal aosp and aosp extended but cant seem to find them here
powerasp said:
Which custom roms for this rom are nice. My previous phone was a mi phone, it had a huge developer base so too many roms. I liked cardinal aosp and aosp extended but cant seem to find them here
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I'm on an OpenKirin rom, CarbonRom to be exact. Check https://openkirin.net/ - so far only the EU version of the View 10 is supported though
Nimueh said:
I'm on an OpenKirin rom, CarbonRom to be exact. Check https://openkirin.net/ - so far only the EU version of the View 10 is supported though
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Then not for me, i am in india
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Then not for me, i am in india
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I thought that's the same version though? We only have BKL09 EU and BKL04 US ... unless I'm very mistaken lol?
Nimueh said:
I thought that's the same version though? We only have BKL09 EU and BKL04 US ... unless I'm very mistaken lol?
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Yes mine is bkl09. Im new so i didnt knew how many different models are there. So there is basically 2 types of models. So this carbon rom supports volte as saw in some custom roms where people were saying it doesnt supports volte
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Yes mine is bkl09. Im new so i didnt knew how many different models are there. So there is basically 2 types of models. So this carbon rom supports volte as saw in some custom roms where people were saying it doesnt supports volte
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No, none of the OpenKirin roms support VOLTE. Or any roms afaik, I think that's a Huawei thing that hasn't been sorted yet.
Nimueh said:
No, none of the OpenKirin roms support VOLTE. Or any roms afaik, I think that's a Huawei thing that hasn't been sorted yet.
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Wow this huawei is surely problematic. In snapdragon i remember i had a mobile which didn't even had volte but the devs made it available by patching the modems. And here even after 2 years of it kirin is giving so many problems.
I need volte so bye bye custom roms:crying::crying:
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Wow this huawei is surely problematic. In snapdragon i remember i had a mobile which didn't even had volte but the devs made it available by patching the modems. And here even after 2 years of it kirin is giving so many problems.
I need volte so bye bye custom roms:crying::crying:
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I've never used or needed it so no idea ... but I'm sure it it CAN be implemented it WILL get implemented eventually
Nimueh said:
I've never used or needed it so no idea ... but I'm sure it it CAN be implemented it WILL get implemented eventually
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Volte is getting the next biggest thing in india. Last year this time only 1 service provider provided it but in 6months or so every provider will have it running in the whole country so volte is kinda important to use now
powerasp said:
Volte is getting the next biggest thing in india. Last year this time only 1 service provider provided it but in 6months or so every provider will have it running in the whole country so volte is kinda important to use now
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Yes - but ONLY in India, other countries don't have it or barely use it. But like I said, I'm sure it'll get implemented eventually
VoLTE is used here in the US too.
powerasp said:
Yes mine is bkl09. Im new so i didnt knew how many different models are there. So there is basically 2 types of models. So this carbon rom supports volte as saw in some custom roms where people were saying it doesnt supports volte
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No custom ROM supports volte for jio.
Phone does support volte out of the box but its only for the specific regions and if your carrier support it and this is only on stock
powerasp said:
Btw what is the command to relock bootloader
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fastboot oem relock (your unlock code)