So as the title says do you all have any thoughts on the systemless root being a possibility for root without tripping Knox.
NotLinusTorvalds said:
So as the title says do you all have any thoughts on the systemless root being a possibility for root without tripping Knox.
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Nope!!!
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i am thinking to get the s6 and i dont think i can give up on root so i heard there is a root method pingpong does not trip knox if i do it
can i install custom recovery on it without tripping knox or anything else on download mode
if i restore to stock will everything stays the same?
thank you in advance
You can root without tripping the KNOX with Ping Pong Root , but if you flash unsigned software like custom recovery or custom ROM the knox will trip and you will loose the warranty.
Vixa said:
You can root without tripping the KNOX with Ping Pong Root , but if you flash unsigned software like custom recovery or custom ROM the knox will trip and you will loose the warranty.
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if i install TWRP through the phone will it trip knox ?
installing XPOSED?
sorry for these stupid questions but i need to know the safe sides of modding the phone
Iloudsan said:
if i install TWRP through the phone will it trip knox ?
installing XPOSED?
sorry for these stupid questions but i need to know the safe sides of modding the phone
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Your answer is in post number 2
Iloudsan said:
if i install TWRP through the phone will it trip knox ?
installing XPOSED?
sorry for these stupid questions but i need to know the safe sides of modding the phone
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I am talking about using flashify to flash twrp not odin
Iloudsan said:
if i install TWRP through the phone will it trip knox ?
installing XPOSED?
sorry for these stupid questions but i need to know the safe sides of modding the phone
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Xposed does not work on 64bit
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There is something strange about knox. I flashed BTU(UK) stock ROM on my XXV(vietnam) SM-920F brand new phone using odin 3.10.6. And hell, knox is tripped now. Strange? Anybody any clues?
sstiwari said:
There is something strange about knox. I flashed BTU(UK) stock ROM on my XXV(vietnam) SM-920F brand new phone using odin 3.10.6. And hell, knox is tripped now. Strange? Anybody any clues?
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I'm so glad i saw this, i was about to do the same. Got all my backups ready to flash and wipe to change the CSC to BTU (from EVR). So your KNOX has tripped, how was this confirmed?
Were you able to do anything since tripping it?
Thanks
sohail_ahmad said:
I'm so glad i saw this, i was about to do the same. Got all my backups ready to flash and wipe to change the CSC to BTU (from EVR). So your KNOX has tripped, how was this confirmed?
Were you able to do anything since tripping it?
Thanks
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Nothing much. Once knox is tripped. Its tripped. There is nothing one can do about it.
Can I Update S6 via Odin
I have S6 (SN-G92F)
Made in Vietnam
Original CSC code "ECT"
Active CSC code "ECT"
Knox Warranty void 0*0
CSC Country Nigeria/NG
CSC version
G920FOJV1AODE
Android version 5.0.2
When I tried to OTA update, it shows "already latest OS installed"
I have tried to update it through smart switch, but it updated to the same version.
I have checked in sammobile that 5.1.1 stock available for the same CSC of Nigeria.
Can I update my mobile to 5.1 through odin with out Knox trip.
Knox tripping is very important for me.
any one can help me
What will destroy knox? I know rooting(depends which) and installing a new recovery will trip knox, as long i understood it right. But are there other things that can trip the knox warranty? Something like busybox or lucky patcher(i know discussing qbout lucky patcher isnt allowed but im only asking if its possible to trip knox with an app you can install) ?
Only flashing an unsigned boot (kernel) or recovery (TWRP, Philz) image trips knox.
Ok thank you very much
TheKingOfQueens said:
Ok thank you very much
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They require root so using it without root is useless. But if you root then it trips knox
Yes thats right but when i understood it right rooting with pingpong root will not trip knox when you are on 5.0.2
I am on 5.0.1 and my Knox isn't tripped. Rooted it with Ping Pong a while back, but want root, marshmallow, and non tripped Knox . If I unroot and update, can I use the SuperSU beta to systemless root without tripping kies?
Thanks!
Anybody who updated try to use SuperSU root yet?
It will trip knox... Bcoze 1st you have to flash recovery than after supersu
Hello Folks,
I need to know a few things about root, can someone explain me what's the difference between normal root and "systemless" root ?
And how do I know what kind of root I am using ?
I'm running SlimX, 5.11 with Xperia XZ SystemUI
I am root but I don't know wich one
Baradoura said:
Hello Folks,
I need to know a few things about root, can someone explain me what's the difference between normal root and "systemless" root ?
And how do I know what kind of root I am using ?
I'm running SlimX, 5.11 with Xperia XZ SystemUI
I am root but I don't know wich one
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Normal root modifies files on your system partition so that you can have root access. On stock firmware, this breaks dm-verity and causes you to fail SafetyNet checks making AndroidPay and some other apps no longer work. It also prevents you from taking OTA updates because it is no longer recognized as stock firmware. Even if you fully unroot, you will still not be able to take OTA updates because the phone "remembers" that you modified system files and fails dm-verity. The only way to get back to original firmware and take OTA updates is to reflash your entire firmware, wiping all user data in the process.
Systemless root works by intercepting files at the kernel level before the phone fully boots and replaces system files. Once the helper apps are installed you can pass the SafetyNet checks, but you will still not be able to receive OTA updates. The major benefit to systemless root is that you can reflash your stock boot.img (kernel) and your phone will be back to stock firmware, you will bass dm-verity and SafetyNet checks, and you can take OTA updates all without losing any user data. It is very easy to switch between systemless root and stock unrooted by simply flashing the necessary boot.img.
My guess is that since you're on a custom ROM you have normal root. To learn more about systemless root, take a look at Magisk.
Thanks very much bro, yeah I guess I'm on normal root since I can't use android pay and can't download some apps protected by safetynet.
Either way next time I root my phone I'll try systemless method
Baradoura said:
Thanks very much bro, yeah I guess I'm on normal root since I can't use android pay and can't download some apps protected by safetynet.
Either way next time I root my phone I'll try systemless method
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No, you are on systemless if you use slimx.
Are you sure ? I don't want to try some risky method to know
Baradoura said:
Are you sure ? I don't want to try some risky method to know
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You can't have custom kernel and use android pay, just forget about it.
hi
bit of a noob question but ill give some context first...
My s7 (g930f) is on android 7.0, ive successfully installed twrp , magisk and samsung anti root removal via odin.
Knox counter has not been activated as far i can tell .
Snapchat still works. Knox app says warranty is still valid
so far so good
Now i wish to back up my phone in its current state
Now to my question , with my phone rooted, twrp installed with knox still intact ..
Could i make a backup with twrp , then later recover with twrp and STILL have knox with a counter of 0?
I'm not sure how you have managed to flash custom without tripping KNOX
But KNOX is not part of anything that TWRP backs up, so if you somehow have not tripped it, back up, then trip it and restore, it will remain tripped, it is a permanent hardware change
magisk hides the true state of the knox.
Actually his knox is not 0x0
guillefs said:
magisk hides the true state of the knox.
Actually his knox is not 0x0
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Yea, thought something like that was happening, no-one has managed custom flashing without tripping KNOX yet
Before flashing the supersu, my knox is 0x0 (magisk installed) via download mode.