About USB OTG - General Questions and Answers

Hi guys, a friend of mine have and old Samsung android based phone.
I was thinking about give it a better use as an android tv box/media player, but I have a few questions, main concerning USB OTG.
I could use a USB OTG Y cable, so I could charge the phone while using it, and still have the OTG... could I connect an USB hub to the OTG so I could use a USB mini keyboard and a mouse?.
My other problem is the micro usb port and the HDMI conection to the TV. I could use a cable to connect the phone to the TV but then I couldn't connect the USB OTG. It's possible to connect HDMI and still use USB OTG???

skyx26 said:
Hi guys, a friend of mine have and old Samsung android based phone.
I was thinking about give it a better use as an android tv box/media player, but I have a few questions, main concerning USB OTG.
I could use a USB OTG Y cable, so I could charge the phone while using it, and still have the OTG... could I connect an USB hub to the OTG so I could use a USB mini keyboard and a mouse?.
My other problem is the micro usb port and the HDMI conection to the TV. I could use a cable to connect the phone to the TV but then I couldn't connect the USB OTG. It's possible to connect HDMI and still use USB OTG???
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It's probably cheaper to just buy a chromecast.

janekmuric said:
It's probably cheaper to just buy a chromecast.
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I live on latin america. A chromecast is way more expensive than a bunch of cables.

skyx26 said:
I live on latin america. A chromecast is way more expensive than a bunch of cables.
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Well... just so you know you can't have the phone charging and in OTG mode in the same time. Not even with adapters. This is because the current in USB can't flow in both directions in the same time (because there aren't enough dedicated wires)

janekmuric said:
Well... just so you know you can't have the phone charging and in OTG mode in the same time. Not even with adapters. This is because the current in USB can't flow in both directions in the same time (because there aren't enough dedicated wires)
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Damn... that pretty much end the subject.
Thank you.

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[Q] usb otg cable question

hi, i am planning on buying a micro usb to usb female cord and i wanted to plug the micro usb into the xoom, and a mouse into the usb female. would that mouse work with the xoom, or will the drivers for the mouse not work? thank you
I'm not sure, I don't use a mouse on my Xoom. But I have heard from other Xoom users that the Bluetooth Mouse works.
steineronie said:
hi, i am planning on buying a micro usb to usb female cord and i wanted to plug the micro usb into the xoom, and a mouse into the usb female. would that mouse work with the xoom, or will the drivers for the mouse not work? thank you
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If you want to use a USB connected mouse you need the Xoom to be in USB host mode. You need to have flashed a rom or kernel that supports USB host mode and you need a USB OTG cable, such as the Motorola Camera Connection cable. You can't just use a regular USB cable with a micro end and a female end.
but you can build your own OTG cable.
buy a micro usb B head
and a usb A recept
and solder it together
the schematic is quite the same like the factory cable
instead of soldering pin 1 to 5 (+) like the factory cable u have to solder pin 4 and 5 together (ground)
you can find a lot of DIY tut´s just google it
steineronie said:
hi, i am planning on buying a micro usb to usb female cord and i wanted to plug the micro usb into the xoom, and a mouse into the usb female. would that mouse work with the xoom, or will the drivers for the mouse not work? thank you
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I can provide OTG HDMI converter Factory cable. If you need, you can PM me.
Just bought this cable from Amazon
It works just fine with wireless Microsoft Keyboard+Mouse but was not able to make it work with my Lumix Camera and Card Reader. Seems there are problems with Android version 4.0.4
My Xoom is MZ604 WIFI only NOT Rooted. Keyboard and Mouse works fine even without rooting it.
jafargio said:
Just bought this cable from Amazon
It works just fine with wireless Microsoft Keyboard+Mouse but was not able to make it work with my Lumix Camera and Card Reader. Seems there are problems with Android version 4.0.4
My Xoom is MZ604 WIFI only NOT Rooted. Keyboard and Mouse works fine even without rooting it.
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I think it's the XOOM do not support your camera module(no this module driver).Maybe you can upgrade OS to FIX.This issue is ONLY driver issue.

[Q] Usb hub + charging + hdmi possible?

Hi I can't find a definitive answer but I think it is no. Anyway does anyone know if it possible to do the following?
Get TV out (HDMI) + usb host working at same time
Get usb host (hub or not) + charging the tablet
Get hdmi out + usb host + charging.
I think our tab works with the media dock for the 7" tab but can usb host be added as well? The dock for the note 2 looks amazing and should really be available for all devices like this.
Cheers
badasschris said:
Get TV out (HDMI) + usb host working at same time
Get usb host (hub or not) + charging the tablet
Get hdmi out + usb host + charging.
Cheers
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I don't know the technical terms behind this but here's the gist of why this won't work: When you are using the HDMI out or the USB OTG it puts the multi purpose connector into a proprietary mode which will I/O a protocol that works with that particular type of device. So when it is in HDMI mode it is using certain data pins to connect with the HDMI pins, and when it is in USB OTG mode it is using some of the same pins to connect to USB data pins.
It can only be in one mode or the other at once, so if you hooked up a hub to a usb OTG connector, or used a USB OTG hub, the jack on the note is going to be in USB OTG mode/protocol, and it will not recognize an HDMI adapter also connected to the hub as an HDMI device that it supports. Only storage devices, HID input devices, and samsung printers are supported on the USB OTG.
Since this is a hardware restriction, I'm 99% sure it cannot be programmed around. I think the same applies to why you cannot charge while using the USB OTG. As far as I know all the HDMI adapters require a usb power source and will somewhat charge the tablet.
Nirvana388 said:
I don't know the technical terms behind this but here's the gist of why this won't work: When you are using the HDMI out or the USB OTG it puts the multi purpose connector into a proprietary mode which will I/O a protocol that works with that particular type of device. So when it is in HDMI mode it is using certain data pins to connect with the HDMI pins, and when it is in USB OTG mode it is using some of the same pins to connect to USB data pins.
It can only be in one mode or the other at once, so if you hooked up a hub to a usb OTG connector, or used a USB OTG hub, the jack on the note is going to be in USB OTG mode/protocol, and it will not recognize an HDMI adapter also connected to the hub as an HDMI device that it supports. Only storage devices, HID input devices, and samsung printers are supported on the USB OTG.
Since this is a hardware restriction, I'm 99% sure it cannot be programmed around. I think the same applies to why you cannot charge while using the USB OTG. As far as I know all the HDMI adapters require a usb power source and will somewhat charge the tablet.
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Thanks for the info just what I was after, it all sounds like a bummer but not too bad. Sounds like I will need root to connect a ps3 controller then.
badasschris said:
Thanks for the info just what I was after, it all sounds like a bummer but not too bad. Sounds like I will need root to connect a ps3 controller then.
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No need to root for ps3 controller use. My sixaxis works fine using the standard usb adapter. You'll only need to root if you want bluetooth connectivity.

[Q] Is it possible to both charge and use usb keyboard through OTG adapter?

I'm planning on buying OTG adapter to use usb keyboard/gamepad etc. But is it possible to both charge GTab 2 10.1 and use some usb device if said OTG adapter has multiple usb ports?
Anyone? Help, please :crying:
I know of no such device that will allow for charging and USB keyboard. You may be able to hook up multiple USB devices but no voltage will be passed back to the tablet.
My personal recommendation is to charge via USB and use a bluetooth keyboard. I also recommend patience with the forums.
Jeruzalem said:
I'm planning on buying OTG adapter to use usb keyboard/gamepad etc. But is it possible to both charge GTab 2 10.1 and use some usb device if said OTG adapter has multiple usb ports?
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This may be one of the needed pieces. I use it to connect a 1TB Seagate potable drive. I have seen some hubs but the reviews are not encouraging.
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-USB2HABMY3-Cable-External-Drive/dp/B003HHK576/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_172282_a1_4_p
Have you considered Bluetooth. My MS keyboard and mouse connect fine as my Logitech tablet specific ones. I imagine there are BT game controllers too.
schneid said:
I imagine there are BT game controllers too.
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PS3 controller comes to mind. I have also used the WII controller to great effect.

I9505: how to connect to TV and use a pendrive?

Hi guys!
I've just bought a new S4 (I9505) and I'd like to connect it to my Sony Full HD TV via HDMI... the official Samsung cable is the only choice we have or is there some aftermarket cable that works fine?
I'd like to connect my USB pendrive to the S4 so I can copy files from one side to another... what about that?
Thanks!
Use the Allshare cast dongle, HDMI over WiFi.
Or buy Samsung's smart dock. I think it has HDMI + charging + 2 USB ports.
dikime said:
Use the Allshare cast dongle, HDMI over WiFi.
Or buy Samsung's smart dock. I think it has HDMI + charging + 2 USB ports.
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Agreed.
Also, Google before you ask. This could have been found 0.68 seconds.
Thanks.
Sent from my SGH-M919
connecting usb pendrive is easy. Just get an OTG usb adaptor. There's already built in support in the phone so you won't even have to install another 3rd party app to get it to recognize yr usb pen drive.

Is there a way to turn usb-c to usb-c phone charger cord into an otg cable?

Anyone tried it? I searched anywhere, but no results
Need some help here
Betterlikethis2020 said:
Need some help here
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Just try it and see if it works. Some devices could work while others would need a dedicated OTG cable
Thx fydtyh. I will update later
Fytdyh said:
Just try it and see if it works. Some devices could work while others would need a dedicated OTG cable
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It depends on whether the phone is used as client or as host. If the phone is to be used as a client, normal USB cable is used. If the phone is to be used as host, a OTG cable is used. It is a matter of pinout order.
Betterlikethis2020 said:
Need some help here
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You can convert the USB C cable into a OTG cable by changing the pinout order as indicated in the following discussion. You will need an adapter to convert one USB C end into USB A.
How different is a normal usb cable from OTG usb cable?
Answer (1 of 8): Hey, So USB OTG cable is used to connect to a device (say your phone, tablet) when you want to use that device (say your phone tablet) as a host. So imagine you want to use a mouse with your android tablet, then you can use the OTG cable as shown in the figure below Major dif...
www.quora.com
I know the diagrams show microUSB instead of USB C but the pinout order should still be the same for microUSB and USB C.

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