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Hello, (sorry for my english ) I have a Samsung Galaxy S8 plus SM-G9550 and I would like to know how I can prevent the system from stopping important processes running in the background, since the widgets can not be used without manually activating the app to which the widget belongs. Don´t Synchronize the weather widgets for example, also applications widgets to record or play audio, only work a few minutes after application was manually opened and then stop working, also close streaming applications running in the background as "radiocut" . I already tried everything, even removing the apps from the energy saving settings, I put those applications in the list of apps without supervision of the power monitor and still do not work, only work for a few minutes and then the system stops the process, Could you help me solve this problem?
Thank you very much
You can't really stop the S8 from killing processes. It has very bad memory management and constantly kills processes and running apps. It's very annoying.
jorgemackay said:
Hello, (sorry for my english ) I have a Samsung Galaxy S8 plus SM-G9550 and I would like to know how I can prevent the system from stopping important processes running in the background, since the widgets can not be used without manually activating the app to which the widget belongs. Don´t Synchronize the weather widgets for example, also applications widgets to record or play audio, only work a few minutes after application was manually opened and then stop working, also close streaming applications running in the background as "radiocut" . I already tried everything, even removing the apps from the energy saving settings, I put those applications in the list of apps without supervision of the power monitor and still do not work, only work for a few minutes and then the system stops the process, Could you help me solve this problem?
Thank you very much
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I think you have to turn off the app from Battery Optimization. Try Settings; Apps; touch the three DOT menu on the right corner, select Special access; Optimize battery usage; on the top left select "All apps" by default it shows "Apps not optimized" and Turn off Battery Optimization from the app you want to keep running... Let see if it works...
dhorgas said:
You can't really stop the S8 from killing processes. It has very bad memory management and constantly kills processes and running apps. It's very annoying.
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Like Emby, when you're in the middle of casting
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Like Emby, when you're in the middle of casting
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I don't know is what that means.
In device manager under battery there is the ability to add apps to the whitelist so the device manager won't stop them.
ShrekOpher said:
In device manager under battery there is the ability to add apps to the whitelist so the device manager won't stop them.
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This doesn't work. The issue is with memory management on the device. It's pretty well documented in a few places on XDA already and is by no means a new problem for Samsung. It has gotten a lot worse since Samsung started moving to Nougat though.
Can you give a reproducible scenario?
The original post already mentioned that he already removed the apps at battery optimization.
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lopri said:
Can you give a reproducible scenario?
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Open 6-8 apps, in my case phone, messages, email, browser with 10 tabs, BBM, calendar, Nine Email, and Slack and watch the phone shut down apps on its own even if they are removed from all optimization features. It sometimes takes a few hours, other times it's quicker, but sooner or later the phone just shuts down apps on its own. Most of the time it kills the phone app and messages first. Then all the browser tabs go into refresh mode.
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I think you have to turn off the app from Battery Optimization. Try Settings; Apps; touch the three DOT menu on the right corner, select Special access; Optimize battery usage; on the top left select "All apps" by default it shows "Apps not optimized" and Turn off Battery Optimization from the app you want to keep running... Let see if it works...
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Nobody else responded to this, but it seems to work for me.
I am a j7 pro user, android 7. I have tried all the oprions mentioned here but those are of no use. problem is getting worse day by day. desperately need a solution.
adattabd said:
I am a j7 pro user, android 7. I have tried all the oprions mentioned here but those are of no use. problem is getting worse day by day. desperately need a solution.
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I suggest the J7 forum section then, this post hadn't been touched for a year.
iworkout said:
Nobody else responded to this, but it seems to work for me.
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It worked for me too.
I had an Galaxy S6 and used to sync FolderSync with an FTP account.
After migrating to Galaxy S8+ FolderSync doesn't work anymore.
It does sync once while the app is opened and after that it stops syncing, no matter if it is closed not.
Removing Battery management for FolderSync app makes syncing to stay running in background even with all apps closed.
Thanks!
Is anybody experiencing problems with notifications after the B402 Update as well? If my phone is in standby for some time, i dont get notifications for Whatsapp and snapchat for example. Even if i turn on the screen or unlock it, they still dont show. I have to open the apps manually to get the messages, which is unacceptable. Anybody knows a solution? However, the battery life improved(who would have guessed that?)
That happens if you don't factory reset after update and/or restore apps from backup.
Try factory reset, install apps from store and restore just the user data of the apps.
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Is anybody experiencing problems with notifications after the B402 Update as well? If my phone is in standby for some time, i dont get notifications for Whatsapp and snapchat for example. Even if i turn on the screen or unlock it, they still dont show. I have to open the apps manually to get the messages, which is unacceptable. Anybody knows a solution? However, the battery life improved(who would have guessed that?)
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Have you disabled "System wakeup" or enabled "Close app after screen off"? If you did, try toggling them and reboot the phone.
Having said that, I have WhatsApp with disabled System wakeup, and I still get notifications, because WhatsApp also utilises Google Play Services to wakeup the app when a notification arrives. I would check the settings of Google Play services on your phone in case something is killing it.
zinko_pt said:
That happens if you don't factory reset after update and/or restore apps from backup.
Try factory reset, install apps from store and restore just the user data of the apps.
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Source? If that was the case, all the people that update their phone would have myriads of problems. Upgrading without factory reset doesn't cause problems as far as I know. Certainly, I haven't had this type of malfunction, and I've never factory-reset the phone since I got it 18 months ago - that includes the Marshmallow to Nougat upgrade.
supersakis said:
Have you disabled "System wakeup" or enabled "Close app after screen off"? If you did, try toggling them and reboot the phone.
Having said that, I have WhatsApp with disabled System wakeup, and I still get notifications, because WhatsApp also utilises Google Play Services to wakeup the app when a notification arrives. I would check the settings of Google Play services on your phone in case something is killing it.
Source? If that was the case, all the people that update their phone would have myriads of problems. Upgrading without factory reset doesn't cause problems as far as I know. Certainly, I haven't had this type of malfunction, and I've never factory-reset the phone since I got it 18 months ago - that includes the Marshmallow to Nougat upgrade.
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This is an old issue, as old as android updates.
Sometimes battery performance decreases with the update, some others is FCs, or notifications, missing stock apps.
Source is XDA, several devices, years of experience and other users that share the same experience.
Don't waste your time debating this, if you don't agree, that's fine.
Actually I think the most common is battery performance decrease which is really annoying when changelog says "battery performance optimisation". After a factory reset magic happens. It's due to old system files (internal and external storage) vs new system files.
Same thing happens after consecutive Windows updates, performance starts to decrease because update doesn't properly clean old files and configs.
Not sure if anyone can help, or if it's been covered before but I'm a new oneplus 6 user and have scoured these forums, oneplus, reddit etc and cannot find a working solution to my problem.
I currently have no real issues receiving push notifications on wifi, however mobile data is different. Once the screen has been locked for a small period of time I stop receiving push notifications. When I wake the phone some will show up, some won't show until the relevant app is opened.
Advanced battery optimisation is off.
Individual apps I want notifications from all have battery optimisation set to "Do not optimise".
I have cleared the phone cache through recovery mode.
All notification settings for the apps are on, background data on etc.
There is no option for doze mode in developer mode to turn off.
I have a Tesco Mobile and a 3 sim card. The issue seems worse with the Tesco mobile sim card. The 3 one seems to work better but slowly reverts to the same issue the Tesco one has. I've tried other people's tesco sim cards and replaced my own but none have worked.
Any help would be appreciated, it's driving me mad.
Just to make sure, under Advanced optimization settings there are two switches which are "Advanced Optimization" and "Sleep standby optimization", keeping the latter off might be the problem. Though if they're both off, I assume that it's just the native Doze working to save battery
Allen Hu said:
Just to make sure, under Advanced optimization settings there are two switches which are "Advanced Optimization" and "Sleep standby optimization", keeping the latter off might be the problem. Though if they're both off, I assume that it's just the native Doze working to save battery
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Yes both are turned off. Do you know of anyway to turn off this "native doze". As a football (soccer) fan, I want instant score notifications for games, I used to get these fine on my iphone 6 but now I have to wake my phone all the time to get them to come up, even then sometimes they don't come through for another 15-20mins.
Have you tried settings in Wifi preferences?
xdadel said:
Have you tried settings in Wifi preferences?
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I've looked in there but can't see anything that would affect mobile data. The notifications work ok when on wi-fi. I've checked mobile data settings and there are no settings for the apps in question which would restrict data usage.
toddenham said:
Yes both are turned off. Do you know of anyway to turn off this "native doze". As a football (soccer) fan, I want instant score notifications for games, I used to get these fine on my iphone 6 but now I have to wake my phone all the time to get them to come up, even then sometimes they don't come through for another 15-20mins.
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Is this happening to all apps (ex. social apps like twitter or whatever) or just the football app? If it's the latter it should be a problem with that specific app. While if it's the former case, It should be something system-wide, so I'd recommend doing a factory reset maybe?
Btw my phone performs the same as yours with the "sleep standby optimization" on, while it operates as normal with it off, so your case seems pretty hilarious :/
I've experienced on all apps, it's most noticeable on the football one as you can time the push notifications exactly so can tell when they're late but WhatsApp, facebook messenger etc both the same. It seems as if the device just goes into a form of heavy sleep mode after around 5mins of lock. I've tried a factory reset already and nothing changed. OP have advised me to try and reinstall the OS but I don't hold any hope. It's almost as if the phone cuts off all mobile data after 5mins of downtime.
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I've experienced on all apps, it's most noticeable on the football one as you can time the push notifications exactly so can tell when they're late but WhatsApp, facebook messenger etc both the same. It seems as if the device just goes into a form of heavy sleep mode after around 5mins of lock. I've tried a factory reset already and nothing changed. OP have advised me to try and reinstall the OS but I don't hold any hope. It's almost as if the phone cuts off all mobile data after 5mins of downtime.
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If factory resetting doesn't solve the problem then reflashing the system likely wouldn't either I suppose.
I still have two options in mind that you may be able to try.
First option is to use apps like "Doze" or "Naptime" both on play store, and mess with those advanced Doze settings to try to disable the function itself and see if it works.
The other would be to try the new HydrogenOS P beta or other custom Roms such as Havoc and see if they don't have this problem.
If neither of these work, I really have no other ideas
But I think these are worth giving a try though
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If factory resetting doesn't solve the problem then reflashing the system likely wouldn't either I suppose.
I still have two options in mind that you may be able to try.
First option is to use apps like "Doze" or "Naptime" both on play store, and mess with those advanced Doze settings to try to disable the function itself and see if it works.
The other would be to try the new HydrogenOS P beta or other custom Roms such as Havoc and see if they don't have this problem.
If neither of these work, I really have no other ideas
But I think these are worth giving a try though
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I tried the Naptime app but that required root and doze didn't seem to do anything.
I've now tried Android P beta. Exactly the same issue. Once the phone has been locked for a few minutes all updates stop. Once I unlock the phone I get flooded with notifications. So frustrated.
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Not sure if anyone can help, or if it's been covered before but I'm a new oneplus 6 user and have scoured these forums, oneplus, reddit etc and cannot find a working solution to my problem.
I currently have no real issues receiving push notifications on wifi, however mobile data is different. Once the screen has been locked for a small period of time I stop receiving push notifications. When I wake the phone some will show up, some won't show until the relevant app is opened.
Advanced battery optimisation is off.
Individual apps I want notifications from all have battery optimisation set to "Do not optimise".
I have cleared the phone cache through recovery mode.
All notification settings for the apps are on, background data on etc.
There is no option for doze mode in developer mode to turn off.
I have a Tesco Mobile and a 3 sim card. The issue seems worse with the Tesco mobile sim card. The 3 one seems to work better but slowly reverts to the same issue the Tesco one has. I've tried other people's tesco sim cards and replaced my own but none have worked.
Any help would be appreciated, it's driving me mad.
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no idea dude sorre
I'm having the same problem
I have similar but different issue with a few apps that I don't use often.
The push notifications only come through the second I put my phone on charge
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Which mobile networks are you on? I found the issue to be resolved when using an o2 SIM card instead of my Tesco mobile one
Edit: Since this I have tried again with an o2 sim card and it didn't resolve the issue. Leads believe it's an issue with my handset.
Since few days, i have the same problem here, i try severall things but no solution at the moment.
I also had notification issues. Then I installed the stock rom of this topichttps://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/rom-stock-fastboot-roms-oneplus-6-t3796665 and my notification returned to normal
my notification come onl;y when i turn my screen on -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/help/notification-android-p-stable-t3849170
I have this issue and I can't understand why more people aren't complaining about it.
Don't suppose your apps are restored from some kind of backup?
EDIT: Okay, people are complaining about it: https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/push-notification-issues.451149/page-121
have this exact same issue on my note 8 with android pie on vodafone network and so far nothing seems to help or fix the same really frustrating.
did you manage to find any solutions so far ?
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Not sure if anyone can help, or if it's been covered before but I'm a new oneplus 6 user and have scoured these forums, oneplus, reddit etc and cannot find a working solution to my problem.
I currently have no real issues receiving push notifications on wifi, however mobile data is different. Once the screen has been locked for a small period of time I stop receiving push notifications. When I wake the phone some will show up, some won't show until the relevant app is opened.
Advanced battery optimisation is off.
Individual apps I want notifications from all have battery optimisation set to "Do not optimise".
I have cleared the phone cache through recovery mode.
All notification settings for the apps are on, background data on etc.
There is no option for doze mode in developer mode to turn off.
I have a Tesco Mobile and a 3 sim card. The issue seems worse with the Tesco mobile sim card. The 3 one seems to work better but slowly reverts to the same issue the Tesco one has. I've tried other people's tesco sim cards and replaced my own but none have worked.
Any help would be appreciated, it's driving me mad.
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Hi all,
I have been facing a weird issue of notifications not being pushed (some apps) on my S22U.
It was bearable in the beginning but now I am missing notifications of MS Teams and other important apps. Which quickly turns it into a nuisance.
I am rooted with latest magisk, lsposed - zygisk.
I would like to resolve it without reflashing my firmware again. Any help is appreciated.
Few things I have tried.
Checking if the notifications settings is on of the app.
Checking if I have not accidentally enabled DND (which is off)
Restarting the device.
Googling if someone have similar issue.
Reinstalling the app.
Clearing app data.
Disabling and re-enabling the notifications.
Thanks in advance.
nishantgupta107 said:
Hi all,
I have been facing a weird issue of notifications not being pushed (some apps) on my S22U.
It was bearable in the beginning but now I am missing notifications of MS Teams and other important apps. Which quickly turns it into a nuisance.
I am rooted with latest magisk, lsposed - zygisk.
I would like to resolve it without reflashing my firmware again. Any help is appreciated.
Few things I have tried.
Checking if the notifications settings is on of the app.
Checking if I have not accidentally enabled DND (which is off)
Restarting the device.
Googling if someone have similar issue.
Reinstalling the app.
Clearing app data.
Disabling and re-enabling the notifications.
Thanks in advance.
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Make sure battery optimization is turned off on the affected apps & that you have data enabled in the background as well on each affected app.
KOLIOSIS said:
Make sure battery optimization is turned off on the affected apps & that you have data enabled in the background as well on each affected app.
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Tried on affected app. Bg data is on and gave unrestricted battery usage. Still nothing.
nishantgupta107 said:
Tried on affected app. Bg data is on and gave unrestricted battery usage. Still nothing.
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How about in the phone's device care/battery settings? Is the power saving option turned on?
Just spit-balling here, but, I myself forget to turn it off (sometimes) on a new device set-up/after a factory reset. Guessing power saving option turned on could possibly affect timely notifications.....
Checked. Power saving is off. Appreciate the spit-balling, never know what will work.
same issue here, i hear notification sounds, but never pop-up message or screen wake-ups.
just beeps...no solution found so far
I don't even get the chimes. I have watch 4 too. Thought if not on phone it might get pushed on watch, but no luck there too
malikin said:
same issue here, i hear notification sounds, but never pop-up message or screen wake-ups.
just beeps...no solution found so far
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This happens to me with LinkedIn: I get notif sound, but no pop up and icon on top bar. If I swipe down the notification is there though.
I am not getting any indication, no notification in statusbar and notification bar and no notif sounds. Weird that it is happening on some apps. I think some magisk module might be culprit but not certain.
I like to stop background data and set battery use to restricted for most of my apps.
I spent about 10 minutes yesterday going through every app and turning off background data and setting the battery use to restricted, but after a reboot, everything is back to default, including apps I've previously enabled to install other apps (Google chrome, mixplorer, sai, etc)
Any ideas?
Here is something that I do to achieve a similar result. I use the app Ice Box to freeze many of my apps that I want to restrict. This temporarily disables them, but keeps their data. This cuts down on battery usage, background CPU/RAM usage, and notifications. Whenever you want to use one of those apps, you can just tap the icebox icon and it will show a panel of all of you frozen apps and you can just tap an app to open it. It does offer the ability to put shortcuts of the frozen apps in your launcher to make it easier to access them.
If you are rooted it is simple to set up. If you are not rooted, you can still use it with ADB permissions (works well with Shuzuku too), but you need to reissue the adb command anytime your phone it rebooted. Shizuku makes this step a bit easier.
synesthete said:
Here is something that I do to achieve a similar result. I use the app Ice Box to freeze many of my apps that I want to restrict. This temporarily disables them, but keeps their data. This cuts down on battery usage, background CPU/RAM usage, and notifications. Whenever you want to use one of those apps, you can just tap the icebox icon and it will show a panel of all of you frozen apps and you can just tap an app to open it. It does offer the ability to put shortcuts of the frozen apps in your launcher to make it easier to access them.
If you are rooted it is simple to set up. If you are not rooted, you can still use it with ADB permissions (works well with Shuzuku too), but you need to reissue the adb command anytime your phone it rebooted. Shizuku makes this step a bit easier.
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Thanks @synesthete, but my use is different. I've used SDMaid and other apps to freeze apps for years, but that's not what I'm after.
For instance, I don't think Google Chrome needs to have background data when I'm not actively using it. I also think that there's no need for it to have "optimized" battery setting if I only want it running when I want to use it. There are a lot of apps that fall into this category that I'd like to be in control of.
So in short, I want to disable background data and set it's battery use to "restricted", which works right up until I restart my phone.
I hope this isn't some new "intended behavior", that'll suck.
Battery life is part of my concern - apps that are on the "restricted" list don't use as much battery, and I couldn't care less if I get notifications from most of them, but I still want to use them.
Background data is more privacy-concern. I don't think most of my apps need to call home and tell them what I've done in their app since last time it called home. My invoicing program for instance. I need that info synced, but when *I* choose for it to sync, not 14 times in the middle of the night when I'm not using the phone.
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Thanks @synesthete, but my use is different. I've used SDMaid and other apps to freeze apps for years, but that's not what I'm after.
For instance, I don't think Google Chrome needs to have background data when I'm not actively using it. I also think that there's no need for it to have "optimized" battery setting if I only want it running when I want to use it. There are a lot of apps that fall into this category that I'd like to be in control of.
So in short, I want to disable background data and set it's battery use to "restricted", which works right up until I restart my phone.
I hope this isn't some new "intended behavior", that'll suck.
Battery life is part of my concern - apps that are on the "restricted" list don't use as much battery, and I couldn't care less if I get notifications from most of them, but I still want to use them.
Background data is more privacy-concern. I don't think most of my apps need to call home and tell them what I've done in their app since last time it called home. My invoicing program for instance. I need that info synced, but when *I* choose for it to sync, not 14 times in the middle of the night when I'm not using the phone.
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Yeah I understand your reasoning and I agree that many apps like that do not need background data or to even run run in the background. I suppose some people use web-apps/PWAs and push notifications in their browsers, but it seems that background data should be an opt-in setting for many apps.
It is very strange that those settings are resetting after reboot. I just tested it out with Chrome and Chrome Beta and the restricted setting survived a reboot.
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Yeah I understand your reasoning and I agree that many apps like that do not need background data or to even run run in the background. I suppose some people use web-apps/PWAs and push notifications in their browsers, but it seems that background data should be an opt-in setting for many apps.
It is very strange that those settings are resetting after reboot. I just tested it out with Chrome and Chrome Beta and the restricted setting survived a reboot.
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Damn, ok, at least I know there's something wrong with specifically MY setup.
Hopefully someone will chime in with a reason and a fix.
Thank you for checking it out on yours and giving me input!!
I hate to double-post, but it's been a couple days and I was hoping that someone with experience in what my issues is would chime in.
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I set specific apps to restrict background data and set the battery use to restricted.
After a phone restart, the settings are back to default, including any 'disable over' and other permissions. My changes do not persist after a reboot.