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Slow charging

Sometimes (no pattern) the note charges very very slowly: in 4 hours this morning, for example, has increased of only 15%.
You can tell cos the charger is not hot.
Is it a charger/cable/connector problem?

Do you see a little red "X" over the battery when this happens? i believe unless you use one of the Samsung chargers it won't charge at full speed but will still trickle charge slowly. I've also found that even with the Samsung charger when I used a really long USB cord I wasn't getting full speed charging, so a long or bad cord can be an issue.

tmagritte said:
Do you see a little red "X" over the battery when this happens? i believe unless you use one of the Samsung chargers it won't charge at full speed but will still trickle charge slowly. I've also found that even with the Samsung charger when I used a really long USB cord I wasn't getting full speed charging, so a long or bad cord can be an issue.
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No red X, original cable and charger... To solve I have to unplug e replug couple of times

Same here
When I connect the Note 10.1 to my Computer or last time I tried to connect to car charger it gives a red cross. Why does this keep happening ??

My note 10.1 just started charging slowly noticeably.
I used an app called Galaxy Charging Current, and sure enough, the status shows that it is charging at 1amp, instead of the nominal 2amps.
This is on the original charger and cable.
I recommend everyone to check out the app called Galaxy Charging Current.

zylyz said:
When I connect the Note 10.1 to my Computer or last time I tried to connect to car charger it gives a red cross. Why does this keep happening ??
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The red X is difefrent: you cannot charge the note 10.1 with a usb cable or in car with a 1 Amp adaptor, it needs 2

Opinion
My GT-N8000 from original ICS 4.0.4 until now using XXCMI2 DBT Deodexed sometimes too long for charging ( charge always at power off mode ). sometimes 5-6 hours and it still not full 100%. It'll be full 100% if unplug and replug again and wait at least 1 or 2 hours. after long time experiment, My conclusion when charge at power off from 35% or below, It will be 5-6 hours charge and not full but charge at 60% power off mode charge it will be full 100% charged just 2-3 hours. that's very strange. at power on never got this problem, always 100% full.
All accessories, charger and cable data were original.
Any Opinion???
Thanks

pikwan80 said:
My GT-N8000 from original ICS 4.0.4 until now using XXCMI2 DBT Deodexed sometimes too long for charging ( charge always at power off mode ). sometimes 5-6 hours and it still not full 100%. It'll be full 100% if unplug and replug again and wait at least 1 or 2 hours. after long time experiment, My conclusion when charge at power off from 35% or below, It will be 5-6 hours charge and not full but charge at 60% power off mode charge it will be full 100% charged just 2-3 hours. that's very strange. at power on never got this problem, always 100% full.
All accessories, charger and cable data were original.
Any Opinion???
Thanks
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could be the ROM you are using. Did this happen when you were stock? I know on my HTC one there were a few roms that I would have to plug the USB in three of four times just to get it to work correctly. Then I changed roms and BOOM works perfect again.

@Tiltmfc
For Me that happen on stock ROM too, coz when I purchase this N8000 at special price on 1st day launch in Indonesia, I must wait until root feature available at least 2-3 month and I always charge at OFF condition and almost rare at ON mode. at official ICS at OFF always like this, real real long to be fully charged when start charge at 30% and Don't know when reach 100% if I don't unplug the charger cable at least once.

pikwan80 said:
For Me that happen on stock ROM too, coz when I purchase this N8000 at special price on 1st day launch in Indonesia, I must wait until root feature available at least 2-3 month and I always charge at OFF condition and almost rare at ON mode. at official ICS at OFF always like this, real real long to be fully charged when start charge at 30% and Don't know when reach 100% if I don't unplug the charger cable at least once.
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I had the same problem previously. Solved by getting a new charger (whole set including the cable)! One hour charging = >15% increase

Cool
Wow Cool, maybe charger problem. For Now I've never charge my N8000 below 60% at OFF Mode. always taking 3 hours charging time to 100%.
Thanks for sharing.

Yep I'd agree that it sounds like your charger or wire is on its way out. I had a similar issue with my S3, changed charger - problem fixed

Samsung 10.1 Note N8000 charging slow
I have one from early 2013. The issue is that during the charging process, sediments get deposited both on the plug and the socket. This over a period of time reduces the contact between male and female parts contributing to slow charging.
In a post, some one mentioned that his friends charger worked on his tablet and his charger did the job for his friend. Some one was able to fix the issue with a new charger. The fact is, any change that reduces the sedimentary issue thus enhancing contact will work better.
I took an obsolete tooth brush cleaned the plug and then held the phone's socket down while cleaning that as well. Vila, my charging speed has improved.
Samsung had a proprietary cable for 2013 and later they replaced it with micro USB in 2014. The sediment issue is not as pronounced as in other mobiles which use different cable type. In N8000, the current in DC o/p is also high at 2A which may be causing this problem.

over 25 hours to charge note 10.1 ?

Hi I just bought a used galaxy note 10.1
it did not come with a usb wall charger
after 7 hours of charging
a search said its my usb charger
I was wounding if it is normal for this to take over 24 hours from 0% battery on a charger like this
that only gives 0.5 A
or am I doing damage to my battery by leaving on charge for longer than 24 hours
its like a incredibly slow trickle charge
right now its almost full it claims but im not sure if it will ever be full at this rate
I thought maybe 24 hours but now its 1 hour past 24
I was trying to (calibrate the battery )
so I let it die to 0%
I turned the device on half way though charging
noticed it had an x though the batter so I freaked out and tryed plugging and unplugging it like 10 times
I was wounding how bad that might be for the memory of my battery to do something like that
because I unplugged it before it got to 100% when i was attempting to calibrate it
Im not sure how sensitive these batteries are
but your input would be much appreciated

You could use an off brand iPad charger with your USB cable to help it charge faster your typical phone charger will only give off 0.5 ma, so look for one for a tablet
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only one thing to your problem with charging, replace the new one usb cable and your problem will be solving

rohmanch said:
only one thing to your problem with charging, replace the new one usb cable and your problem will be solving
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I know that but I was wondering if leaving it plugged in will it be bad for my battery at all
to leave it plugged in now approaching 28 hours
the charging logo on the screen appears to have approximately 75% charge so far
I want it to get to 100%
should I unplug it if its not charged in 6-8 more hours
im mainly wondering if it is even possible to fully charge to 100%
on a old ipod usb charger or not

kush king710 said:
Hi I just bought a used galaxy note 10.1
it did not come with a usb wall charger
after 7 hours of charging
a search said its my usb charger
I was wounding if it is normal for this to take over 24 hours from 0% battery on a charger like this
that only gives 0.5 A
or am I doing damage to my battery by leaving on charge for longer than 24 hours
its like a incredibly slow trickle charge
right now its almost full it claims but im not sure if it will ever be full at this rate
I thought maybe 24 hours but now its 1 hour past 24
I was trying to (calibrate the battery )
so I let it die to 0%
I turned the device on half way though charging
noticed it had an x though the batter so I freaked out and tryed plugging and unplugging it like 10 times
I was wounding how bad that might be for the memory of my battery to do something like that
because I unplugged it before it got to 100% when i was attempting to calibrate it
Im not sure how sensitive these batteries are
but your input would be much appreciated
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You are not harming your device. The only negative is that it will take longer to charge. The red is normal when not using either the correct type charging block or usb cable, it is not harming your tablet.
I would just do what some of the other posters have suggested, getting a new charger made for a tablet, just because waiting that long for it to charge is not practical.

kush king710 said:
I know that but I was wondering if leaving it plugged in will it be bad for my battery at all
to leave it plugged in now approaching 28 hours
the charging logo on the screen appears to have approximately 75% charge so far
I want it to get to 100%
should I unplug it if its not charged in 6-8 more hours
im mainly wondering if it is even possible to fully charge to 100%
on a old ipod usb charger or not
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SGN 10.1 GT-N80XX series need a specifically designed charger for them.
One thing for sure, it need to provide 2.1 A, 5 V & most phone charger only supply around 0.5 - 1 A.
Most 3rd party charger also only supply around 0.5 - 1 A.
The other is the data pin(s) & it quite different with Apple's charger.
I've tried several 3rd party chargers & Apple chargers (iPod,iPhone & iPad) & most of it unable to charge my N8000.
You need to buy an original charger for your device.
Or you can try buying 3rd Party N80XX charger on eBay from a reputable seller.
That being said, you also need an original cable to be used with the original charger.
Most 3rd party cable can only supply 0.5 A & some 3rd party charger can only be used using specific 3rd party cable.
A long 3rd party cable (10 ft / 3 m) usually can only supply around 1 A.
For example :
I have a Powerbank that uses its own cable to charge at 2.1A rate, but I can't use my own original cable with it
But my original cable is fine & I uses it to charge using my original wall charger.
It takes around 4-5 hours from 4% to 100% (with WiFi ON & all sync on)
0.5 A can't charge your device while in Power ON condition.
To charge at 0.5 A rate you have to turn OFF your device & it will take a long time to get 100%
(N80XX series have a 7000mAh battery so you can calculate how long).
NOTE:
The battery with red cross icon means that the charger/cable isn't designed for N80XX (usually the data pin settings is mismatching the original design), but it will still charge your device at a very low amperage (lower than 0.5A) to prevent damage for using inappropriate charger.

rtan73 said:
You are not harming your device. The only negative is that it will take longer to charge. The red is normal when not using either the correct type charging block or usb cable, it is not harming your tablet.
I would just do what some of the other posters have suggested, getting a new charger made for a tablet, just because waiting that long for it to charge is not practical.
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yes I will as soon as I can
thank you
I am still a little worried that It will never make it to 100% with the only one I have available for now
does not really sound like anyone has had the patience to let it go to full with this slow trickle

Amazon has the chargers and cables.
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Fast Charging?!?

Hello.
Can someone explain me how on earth does fart charging works on this device?
I've tried the included cable and charger, third party chargers and i don't see any fast charging going on?!? or any indication on screen that it's happening.
I've read somewhere that you need a special cable to use with the included charger (?!?!) is this true? where do you get this cable?
Phone is amazing but the charging part is really is really weird if you ask me.
Thanks.
J.

Joao Oliveira said:
Hello.
Can someone explain me how on earth does fart charging works on this device?
I've tried the included cable and charger, third party chargers and i don't see any fast charging going on?!? or any indication on screen that it's happening.
I've read somewhere that you need a special cable to use with the included charger (?!?!) is this true? where do you get this cable?
Phone is amazing but the charging part is really is really weird if you ask me.
Thanks.
J.
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it sharges in an hour and half with me
it is quite fast

rowihel2012 said:
it sharges in an hour and half with me
it is quite fast
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do you get any message saying fast charging?

it doesnt show any fast charging message, so i wouldnt rely on such a message to make sure its working. just use the included cable and charger and ull be fine it takes about 2.5 hours to charge from 0-100% via fastcharge
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Joao Oliveira said:
do you get any message saying fast charging?
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no

rowihel2012 said:
no
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Yeah ...That's why I asked. I plugged a meter to the charger and never saw it go more than 5v 2a.
I think it needs a special cable for the 9v but I can't find any info.
2.5h is not fast charge. My old s6 edge plus used to take around 70-80 m from 5-100% if if you put the remaining 1000mah shouldn't take that long lol

Mean in 30 min 40% recharge . My phone 0 -100% charged in 2:00

trust me, it is fast charge
calculate for yourself: original huawei charger is rated at 9V 2A, thats 18W total. 2A is 2000 mA. mate 8 battery is 4000 mAh.
best case scenario: 4000 mAh / 2000 mA = 2h
now add to that the extra time it needs to charge from 85-100%, because at 85% it automatically slows down charging to prolong the health of the battery and youre at the 2.5h FAST CHARGING time
also, i dont believe for a SECOND that the S6 edge+ charged that fast in your case. check this review: http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-plus-review-battery-life-and-verdict-page-6
"Fast charging comes as standard with the S6 Edge+ and it works. It charged from 0 to 100% in just 1 hour 45 minutes. Samsung claims wireless charging has also been improved – it’s 27% faster on the Edge+ compared to the normal S6 and S6 Edge."
so thats 105 minutes for 3000 mAh. add to that 33.3% to get to 4000 mAh and u get a total charging time of..... 140 minutes. which is 2 hours and 20 minutes

jbmc83 said:
trust me, it is fast charge
calculate for yourself: original huawei charger is rated at 9V 2A, thats 18W total. 2A is 2000 mA. mate 8 battery is 4000 mAh.
best case scenario: 4000 mAh / 2000 mA = 2h
now add to that the extra time it needs to charge from 85-100%, because at 85% it automatically slows down charging to prolong the health of the battery and youre at the 2.5h FAST CHARGING time
also, i dont believe for a SECOND that the S6 edge+ charged that fast in your case. check this review: http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-plus-review-battery-life-and-verdict-page-6
"Fast charging comes as standard with the S6 Edge+ and it works. It charged from 0 to 100% in just 1 hour 45 minutes. Samsung claims wireless charging has also been improved – it’s 27% faster on the Edge+ compared to the normal S6 and S6 Edge."
so thats 105 minutes for 3000 mAh. add to that 33.3% to get to 4000 mAh and u get a total charging time of..... 140 minutes. which is 2 hours and 20 minutes
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I will make a full test from 0 to 100. I only charged from 40 to 100 and it took way more than 2 hours... that's why i asked if any special cable was needed. And as i told i mesured the charging rate coming out of the charger and never passed the 5V.
As for non Believing. It's REALLY pisses me off when people write that crap. Why would I lie? what would i gain from it? I sold the phone because i wasn't happy with it.... On the contrary and in case you don't know most sites like the ones you post are PAID to give positive reviews.

I checked with including charger and cable and the app Ampére and it charged with 2800mah. So, in ideaal situation it means a charging time of a proximity 1h and 26min. That means "fast charging". At least in my opinion. ?

Joao Oliveira said:
I will make a full test from 0 to 100. I only charged from 40 to 100 and it took way more than 2 hours... that's why i asked if any special cable was needed. And as i told i mesured the charging rate coming out of the charger and never passed the 5V.
As for non Believing. It's REALLY pisses me off when people write that crap. Why would I lie? what would i gain from it? I sold the phone because i wasn't happy with it.... On the contrary and in case you don't know most sites like the ones you post are PAID to give positive reviews.
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that doesnt make sense what ure saying because in this case the site actually stated a HIGHER amount of minutes that it would take the s6 edge plus to fully charge from 0-100% so what now, theyre getting paid to write negative reviews as well?
also, no, ure not "gaining" anything from that, but people tend to exaggerate a lot, do a quick "drive by" in a thread and post random statements based on non-correctly remembered experiences and this is exactly how false statements are converted into "truths / facts". read my post and tell me where exactly i listed anything wrong. check various reviews on the mate 8, they all stare the same thing: about 2.5h for a full charge, give or take 10-20 min. it also compares perfectly with the charging time of the s6 edge+ in terms of mAh/min, and in fact these two phones are indeed VERY close, mate 8 being at 49mAh/min and the s6 series at around 50-52, so just marginally faster... which, again, is also represented by the numbers i listed in my post before
and again: there is NO extra message or notification stating ure in fast charge mode on the mate 8, it just does its job, thats it!
if ure getting slower charging rates / voltages, make sure to use the original charger and original cable and both with a proper high voltage power outlet.
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I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy

nighthawk626 said:
I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy
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Yes im checked It is true
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lucky then that i always leave my phone alone when its charging
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nighthawk626 said:
I noticed the fast charging only really kicks in if you leave your phone alone. But if you keep using it while it's charging, it just charges at regular speed. But the moment I put the phone down and screen of for 5 minutes, it quick charges like crazy
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I hadn't tested this. After i turn off my phone, a few minutes later it jumps to 9V 2A on my meter. If you turn it back on it goes down to 5V 1A. Must be a phone security thing, which is kinda cool in a way if you ask me.
Btw Apparently quick charge works with non original chargers too. I have a Cheotech 60W 6 port usb with 2 Quick charge ports (which supports 9V 2A/ 12V 1.5A) and it works Using the original cable though.

Don't use fast charging unless you really need it.
Always fast charging overnite (when you're not actually using the phone for many hours) can only shorten your battery longevity more quickly then with normal charging.

Joao Oliveira said:
I hadn't tested this. After i turn off my phone, a few minutes later it jumps to 9V 2A on my meter. If you turn it back on it goes down to 5V 1A. Must be a phone security thing, which is kinda cool in a way if you ask me.
Btw Apparently quick charge works with non original chargers too. I have a Cheotech 60W 6 port usb with 2 Quick charge ports (which supports 9V 2A/ 12V 1.5A) and it works Using the original cable though.
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is there option somewhere to turn it off? plz
themissionimpossible said:
Don't use fast charging unless you really need it.
Always fast charging overnite (when you're not actually using the phone for many hours) can only shorten your battery longevity more quickly then with normal charging.
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stesteste said:
is there option somewhere to turn it off?
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When I'm going to recharge for many hours overnite I use a 1A travel charger.

i guess thats the best way to restrict charging amperage although it shouldnt hurt the battery so much, considering that the amperage drops off sharply once level reaches 85% and above...
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Charging a phone with a lower rated current, will cause the charger to "try and match" the current requested.
Amps work in that manner, the device determines the draw. For example, using a 5v 5a (theoretical device) on a 5v 1a device will likely melt your adapter / screw up your phone from improper voltages.
In that case, an adapter may heat up, or if its smart enough (unlikely), it will turn off periodically. Most of the time, it will have an unstable voltage (undervolting) which is how some phones are able to detect an improper charger is used. This is bad for your battery.
I do not recommend charging with a charger that isn't rated for it. This is widely documented.

Samsung tablet SM-T805 charging issues...

For the past 3 months my tablet has been struggling to charge.
I would plug it in, it would show the charging icon on the battery, but it won't charge. Sometimes it will INCREDIBLY slowly. Other times (most of the time) the charging percentage will decrease while its plugged into a charged.
I have tried:
1.Soft reset
2.Hard reset
3.Removing micro sd card
4.Different (original) lead
5.Different (original charger (3 in total)
6.Opening it up and disconnecting the battery terminal for 5 mins
7.Holding down power while battery disconnected
8.Connecting the charger FIRST before connecting the other end to the mains.
Im getting nowhere. Currently its on 1% and just wont charge.
To me it could be the charging port or the battery. How do i determine (without spending heaps on a battery) what to replace first?. Is there anyone else with this problem?.
Thanks

Just now i plugged it in charge. The tablet is off as its on 0%. It took 30 mins to get to 4%, then it went back down to 0% instantly.
But like i say, when it DOES have a charge, the charge is usually decreasing as the charger is plugged in, till it reaches 0%!. Only sometimes very randomly and very rarely will it actually charge properly, and when it does it operates perfectly with it OFF the charger. So it doesn't drain dramatically off the charger.
Right now im struggling to even get a charge out of it now.
Can someone help? charging port or battery fault??

J4G3D said:
Just now i plugged it in charge. The tablet is off as its on 0%. It took 30 mins to get to 4%, then it went back down to 0% instantly.
But like i say, when it DOES have a charge, the charge is usually decreasing as the charger is plugged in, till it reaches 0%!. Only sometimes very randomly and very rarely will it actually charge properly, and when it does it operates perfectly with it OFF the charger. So it doesn't drain dramatically off the charger.
Right now im struggling to even get a charge out of it now.
Can someone help? charging port or battery fault??
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I'd say it's the battery.
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I'd say it's the battery.
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Its on 30% now, creeping up slowly. So strange.
Have you seen any other cases the same to say it is the battery?

J4G3D said:
Its on 30% now, creeping up slowly. So strange.
Have you seen any other cases the same to say it is the battery?
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When a device charges strangely fast or agonizingly slow, it's typically the battery, also, randomly discharging fast is also a sign.
You could always have a repair take a look with a voltmeter, testing the battery and the USB port/charging components. Or you could do it yourself.
Sometimes it's just the solder working loose on some of the pins from your USB port, you can do a reflow on those solder points.
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S7e 'original' vs s6 'boosted' batteries.

I'm looking to replace the old battery of my s6 that drains (and heats up?) quickly.
A supposedly original Samsung s7e battery is sold at many websites for ~$20 such as walmart. Even if it is indeed an original (quality) Samsung battery it's still 4~5 years old? On top of that I don't have a case so I'm not too keen on the battery being 1mm thicker.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-G935W8-Battery-Replacement/PRD441YFPLP0QVC
Meanwhile on Amazon a 3800 mah li-polymer battery is sold by 'SHENMZ' with a number of reviews suggesting it has better capacity (at least 3000 mah according to accubattery) than the original S6 battery: https://www.amazon.ca/Upgraded-Rechargeable-Portable-Charging-Protective/dp/B07RN3LDVV/
This 'SPWOMYGD' one is significantly cheaper but the reviews don't look promissing: https://www.amazon.ca/SPWOMYGD-Galaxy-S6-Replacement-EB-BG920ABE/dp/B088M8FZYR/
I'm pretty undecided at this point .

Look at this before you decide what to do:
Redmi Note 9S weird Battery Issue
Hello, My phone problem is, whenever i charged my phone to any certain percentage like 80%, 90%, 100%, and unplugged the charger and using the phone, first 5-10 minutes its consume 5-6% battery and first 1 hour of using its consume 10-12%. This...
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Just a handy hint

Pachacouti said:
Look at this before you decide what to do:
Redmi Note 9S weird Battery Issue
Hello, My phone problem is, whenever i charged my phone to any certain percentage like 80%, 90%, 100%, and unplugged the charger and using the phone, first 5-10 minutes its consume 5-6% battery and first 1 hour of using its consume 10-12%. This...
forum.xda-developers.com
Just a handy hint
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Unfortunately I don't have any powerful chargers for this old phone. If only I could plug in my gf's macbook charger like I can with my IPad.

Dont you have a 2.0A plug? Your fones fine, just find a charger that says 2.0A or 2000mA and get on with it lol, sayin that, I dont know the usb power output of the macbook, was it the macbook you plugged into? If so, try another port?
Any powered usb hub?

Pachacouti said:
Dont you have a 2.0A plug? Your fones fine, just find a charger that says 2.0A or 2000mA and get on with it lol, sayin that, I dont know the usb power output of the macbook, was it the macbook you plugged into? If so, try another port?
Any powered usb hub?
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Highest charger to which I can connect a usb to whatever the s6 uses cable has 5.2 volt and 1.35 a output, the rest are 5 volt, 1 a output iphone chargers.

That SHOULD work, (at least it is 1000mA more than the pc) it'll just take a wee bit longer

Pachacouti said:
That SHOULD work, (at least it is 1000mA more than the pc) it'll just take a wee bit longer
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I haven't used the phone for the past 2 weeks or so due to the poor battery battery life, so I guess I'll plug it for 72 hours non-stop or a week or whatever and see, but I'd be really surprised if it will be as good as new .

Yeah, just dont turn it on for 24 hours, try powering on anytime after that, the good thing is if it's that flat, you dont need the capacitor, you just need to slow flash lol, but remember when your (new style) battery is run down to say 10%, it's be best to drain it completely before next charge