I saw this video on yt. This guy used a heat gun to pry open the phone in order to gain to access to the battery. It's a hassle. Sooner or later we will have to change our battery. Is Moto selling the official battery? Is it widely available or Is this phone just another use and throw? Also, If we change the battery then will it stay water resistant or not?
To my knowledge, you cannot purchase an official battery, although I would bet you can buy knock offs soon enough... The real problem is replacement, like you stated it's not easy to get to it or replace, and yes it would (at least partially) ruin the water resistance of the device.
I knew this when I bought it, but I still got it knowing it would be a throw away eventually. When my G gets to the point I think I need a new battery, I'll just buy something else.
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Thats a good doubt raise by you .. i am also eager to listen about this discussion
Believe me. This phone would get obsolete due to software before the battery have issues. Modern battery last for a few years in good shape. And this is a well known feature before you buy it. Pointless discussion IMHO
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I know modern battery lasts 2-3 years at least but there are exceptions. I've had 2 samsungs die on me just after 1 year. I wouldn't want Moto G's battery to crap out only after 1 year. Moto should sell the official battery even if it's in limited quantity.
Realize that with every single day that passes our society worldwide continues to move towards being disposable: if you honestly have intentions of keeping a Moto G3 for 2+ years, that's fine with me and many other people I presume, but for companies they don't really like that kind of attitude or action because it keeps them from continuously earning money from consumers like yourself.
Why sell batteries for a device for a small potential profit when they can sell you an entire device for considerably more profit?
It ain't rocket science to figure this kind of stuff out, really. As long as you're using the device and keeping the charge level between 40 and 90% consistently, I seriously doubt anybody would have issues with the Moto G3 battery life for at least 18 solid months. Don't keep it fully charged constantly, make sure at least once a month you allow it to run down to the 15% point where it tells you "HEY, I'M RUNNING LOW ON JUICE, CHARGE ME..." and then charge it back to 90-95% with a top off of maybe 98-99% but that's about it - 100% isn't the goal 24/7, it's bad for Li-Ion and Li-Poly batteries.
If people would learn how to cycle and charge modern devices, battery lifespan of the batteries would be much much longer and they wouldn't have to worry about day to day battery life nearly as much.
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Believe me. This phone would get obsolete due to software before the battery have issues. Modern battery last for a few years in good shape.
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I made different experiences. The software lifespan of a phone with good custom ROM support can for sure exceed the average lifespan of the battery.
For a Samsung Galaxy Tab bought in 2011 I had to replace the (officially non-replaceable) battery in 2014.
For a Samsung Galaxy S Plus also bought in 2011 I had to replace the battery last year.
Both are still being used today by my kids and both are running just fine with Android 5.x thanks to good custom ROM support. And I expect they will continue to be used for at least one year.
Even for my old Nokia N800 I had to replace the battery I think two years before performance was too bad for everyday usage.
So for sure I hope that there will be third party replacement batteries available at some point in time for the Moto G3. and that I manage to replace the battery once the need arises, without frying the device with the heatgun. [emoji4]
The problem with such third party replacement batteries is that you don't know about the quality and actual capacity until you test them for a couple of days or weeks. If you got a bad one, replacing it again after a few days/weeks is of course especially annoying if the device is glued together like the Moto G3.
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I know modern battery lasts 2-3 years at least but there are exceptions. I've had 2 samsungs die on me just after 1 year. I wouldn't want Moto G's battery to crap out only after 1 year. Moto should sell the official battery even if it's in limited quantity.
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Moto G comes with 2 year warranty in my country. If it dies before then I will get it warranty replaced. If not I will sell it within 2 years and buy the G4 or G5.
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Moto G comes with 2 year warranty in my country. If it dies before then I will get it warranty replaced. If not I will sell it within 2 years and buy the G4 or G5.
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After two years you should buy g6 or g7 lol
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Is there a trusted source for this? I can't buy it from LG or google...but would like to replace my Nexus 5 battery. I'm charging the phone like 3-4 times/day.
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Is there a trusted source for this? I can't buy it from LG or google...but would like to replace my Nexus 5 battery. I'm charging the phone like 3-4 times/day.
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You can find all the proper LG part numbers in the D820 service manual, plus, it has the proper steps to dis-assemble the Nexus 5 so you don't break anything.
EAC62078701 is the part number to search for.
Read the last 20 or so pages for part numbers and di-assembly instructions(with color pictures!).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/service-manual-d821-t2791303
This is where i order mine before few days
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00MEURADO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1419814355&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
I contact the sellers and he assure me that their supply is directly from lg service.
Hi,
I have two questions...is there a trusted US reseller of the genuine LG battery. The one above is from the UK.
Also...I attached the GSAM captures...does this look normal for nexus 5? My battery is being drained very quickly lately. Maybe I need to do a factory reset?
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Hi,
I have two questions...is there a trusted US reseller of the genuine LG battery. The one above is from the UK.
Also...I attached the GSAM captures...does this look normal for nexus 5? My battery is being drained very quickly lately. Maybe I need to do a factory reset?
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2 hours screen on, half battery used? Yeah could be normal. Hard to say really.
Me too.....
I am looking for this, too. My battery is really messed up. I've tried recalibrating, factory reset, different ROMs, complete stock, etc. I'm getting 3 hrs. TOTAL before having to charge and it'll hit 25% and die almost immediately after that. I power back on and I'm at 3% (!). I'm trying the Zerolemon battery case to see if that gets me through the next few months until I can possibly upgrade or get another Nexus 5.
Excellent
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This is where i order mine before few days
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00MEURADO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1419814355&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
I contact the sellers and he assure me that their supply is directly from lg service.
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I've spent the past few days looking for a genuine battery (in the UK). I've actually spent about 2 weeks swapping ROM's around from 4.4 to 5.0.1. Turns out Lollipop is some of my problem but even on 4.4 I'm getting pretty bad life.
All the other batteries I could find were about half the price but the reviews said they were fakes. I'll try this one.
OEM battery is only about $10 or $15, so price alone won't tell you if it's genuine or not.
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OEM battery is only about $10 or $15, so price alone won't tell you if it's genuine or not.
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I can't argue with that!
When I searched on amazon.co.uk for OEM Nexus 5 battery, I found a few for only about £10 but the reivews made it clear that they were not really LG batteries. I couldn't find the link that the poster gave (probably because it doesn't have OEM in it). I've no reason to believe it is more genuine other than the poster contacted them and they assured him. So I ordered it and it looks very genuine so far - some that are sold as OEM don't even have "LG" written on them!
I'll install it soon and see if my battery life improves and come back here and also write an amazon review - it's the only way for people to see what's good or not.
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I can't argue with that!
When I searched on amazon.co.uk for OEM Nexus 5 battery, I found a few for only about £10 but the reivews made it clear that they were not really LG batteries. I couldn't find the link that the poster gave (probably because it doesn't have OEM in it). I've no reason to believe it is more genuine other than the poster contacted them and they assured him. So I ordered it and it looks very genuine so far - some that are sold as OEM don't even have "LG" written on them!
I'll install it soon and see if my battery life improves and come back here and also write an amazon review - it's the only way for people to see what's good or not.
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Resellers will then mark those up to whatever price they want so it's really a crap shoot out there. Best of luck with your replacement and let us know the results.
I would like to ask all the people on this forum that have replaces their battery in the Nexus 5 to post some of their impressions about the "new" battery, this thread looks like the perfect place to do this.
I will start:
- I had to replace my battery because it became very bloated/swollen, so much that on one side the back case was lifted 1 mm, and
the phone felt a little bit heavier. Also the battery would not last even an hour, the phone closing on it's own with the battery showing 50-70 %,
and after reset showing <10%, then it would magically charge itself back to 50%
- So I bought a new one from ebay: "http://www.ebay.com/itm/361075010454", the guy had positive reviews and many people got this item
- It arrived in perfect state, at least visually, it had part number "EAC62078701" like all the replacement batteries online, the seller assured me it was original and new from LG. Proof that it was new could be that the connector ribbon was straight and not folded in any way, so it could not have been used in a phone before. The inscriptions on it seemed original, but when I scanned the barcode from the lower-left side it decoded a different date
than the one written on it over the P/N, so no match, but what does this mean ?
- I put it into the phone and now it acts "normally", meaning that it goes from 100% all the way to 0% without the phone closing itself
- Charging also seems normal, taking about 2,5 hours to fully charge with the LG WCP-300 wireless charger
- But this is were the problems start, with the new battery I cannot get more than 2 - 2,5 hours of SOT no matter what I do. I've tried 4.4.4, L preview, 5.0, 5.0.1, even cm11, with full wipes and no restores, but it's the same, as soon as the screen in on, the battery drains like crazy, I lose 15% battery in 10 minutes of playing Temple Run 2, which is not even such a demanding game. Totally unacceptable, when the phone was new, I used to get 4-5 hours of SOT, now I don't even get half that.
This is why I'd like to get other people's impressions about a replacement battery.
Maybe this replacement battery is bad, I but I don't want to get another one without proof that other replacement batteries can get 4 hours of SOT with stock Lollipop.
Thank you.
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This is why I'd like to get other people's impressions about a replacement battery.
Maybe this replacement battery is bad, I but I don't want to get another one without proof that other replacement batteries can get 4 hours of SOT with stock Lollipop.
Thank you.
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With all bells and whistles I get 3- 3.5h SOT . LTE at all times , location on , brightness around 15%. 4 to 5h on 3g with location off and no music.
The only way to be sure if it's the battery is to either compare it with another battery in your phone or do a controlled discharge .
That would involve taking it out , wiring it to a constant current sink and timing how long it takes until it reaches cut-off voltage. Since either buying a current sink or building one will cost you more than 15 bucks I'd say just look for another battery if you really hate the current SOT .
Best of luck!!! Had the same issue a few days ago when I plugged my N5 to the charger of my sisters tablet, which is obviously one of those cheap Made in China tablets,
and the voltage totally killed the battery in my phone, so didnt really feel like those sellers where worth my trust, so went to FB and got in the N5 fan page of my country, so there was a guy who had one with a broken screen and was nice enough to sell me his battery, this is basically your best shot, asking around if you REEEEAAALLY want a original one, since LG dont sell them to the public
Temperature of replacement Nexus 5 battery
Hi,
Sorry to bother you, but could you tell me if your replacement Nexus 5 battery has a varies temperature?
I mean if the temperature goes up to 35 Celsius when it's charging or you're playing games, of if it goes down to 25 when it's idle.
Because my replacement battery always stays at 29 degrees Celsius, no matter how I use the phone.
I think mine might be bad, but I want to check with someone else before buying another one.
Thanks.
Update - I replaced it a few days ago (using the amazon.co.uk link given previously) and it has solved my issues. I played a video in a loop on full brightness and got almost double what I had before. General usage seems much better too.
So why did I need a new one after just a year? I think my old one was damaged by overheating on cheap wireless charger. My new charger doesn't make the phone get so hot. I used the old one for about a year and lost about 50% capacity. I thought they must all do that so I didn't worry. I'm told heat can damage the battery.
The temperature is fine - about room temp unless I use it a lot.
It's normal - a battery loses about 30% of its capacity after 400 cycles.
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It's normal - a battery loses about 30% of its capacity after 400 cycles.
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I guess you got that from something like "table 2" on this page -
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
That's showing a 30% loss on 300-500 cycles assuming the battery was right down to 0%. I didn't know that.
However, I lost 50% and would not have been charging from 0% so it seems worse than average. The next paragraph on that page talks about degradation due to heat. That would explain why mine was so bad.
I'm still surprised though as I've had a few smart phones and never noticed even 30%. I had my Motorola Defy for 2 years as my main phone and then 2 years as a spare and it seemed fine. I suppose you don't notice a gradual loss so presumably I just wasn't noticing.
Not all batteries are made the same - my very old motorola (w388 , 10 years old) started out with around 7 days battery life . Now it only lasts about 3 days so ~60% loss.
My desire x lost around 30% capacity in 2 years - so around 900 charging cycles. My S3 on the other side ... capacity was down to 50% after 200 charging cycles. I've checked most of the with a controlled discharge on a current sink so it should be about 3% off .
So i finally replace my battery and miracle happen phone charge normally not in 40 minutes, there is no battery jump and fall during reboot, no enormous drain etc. So if you have issue as described above and changing roms, kernels and go back to kitkat didn't help change your battery.
Just got a battery from eBay... Looks authentic, but doesn't charge.. Just stays at 0%...
Probably will have to exchange... Is there a way to tell if an LG battery is authentic??
Edit: Well the seller has quickly refunded me and I didn't even have to send back the battery. Told him it wouldn't charge and is stuck at 0%.. He insisted he would just send out a new one, but I asked for a refund instead.
Already ordered a new one from etradesupply, should be here within a few days..
So guys, celebrating or Forum acquisition.
Let's talk about one of the biggest issues that a huge part of S3 users, that acquired their phones last year had. The battery drop.
It weirdly started for some after the Lollipop upgrade, with a 15 or 20 sudden drop, 1, 2, 3 seconds and you phone turns off!
Firstly we all thought this was a software issue, but after countless work and updates on this part and no fix for it, we started to think that problem was not a software one but with batteries itself.
The cause will remain a mystery. A defective lot? A issue that was ignited by LP? And proof of batteries defect, the drops gets worse with time. 20, 30, 40% drop to zero, batteries getting inflacted watch out if you have this issue!
Fortunately this seems to be fixed in newest batteries, that are sold on main stores, if you're ordering a original one get from main stores, Aliexpress stores are just selling fake ones by my investigations.
Luckily we found at Aliexpress this Kompson battery. At first sight it looked like a big scam, promising capacity for a not so popular phone? Definitely could look like a scam. But then a courageous buyer bought one and not only got great capacity or duration, as got the drop issue aliviated.
My case, after a whole year with two original batteries. They started to suffer huge drops from 50% in the last 6 months, with max of 2:30 SOT. One got inflated, they badly lasted me more than a . Yesterday finally got my Kompson and my issue meet a end. No drop, maybe at 5%, 3% I got a drop to 1% then it last some time more and turns off.
This topic is to inform people with the Drop issue, as well as letting your experience with new, old stock batteries or Kompson. In order to inform and help people with this freaking issue.
I only got one battery with my device, so the moment I started to notice these strange drops, plus none of the "rescue" solutions such as battery calibration (rooted), didn't do anything, I search AliXpress, and bought one KonPson with any risk...
Since March 29th that I am using it, the phone works also with 0%!!! No crazy drops, no suddden 50%...
The load discharges slow an normaly.
TapaTalk and JiaYu S3 with Android MM!
Battery calibration isnt quick process to get rid off drops. What You need to do is stay with ONE rom longer! Do a calibration at 100%. Restart the phone. Than three-five times fully discharge battery (with normal use) and charge it to 100% its times. It take week or so. I have konspon and orginal battery and I dont have any drops - no matter which battery I use. I've made flashable batterystats file (from my own file after a week or so) and when I need to test new rom and return to mine testes I do flash batterystats.bin file via recovery and thats all.
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Battery calibration isnt quick process to get rid off drops. What You need to do is stay with ONE rom longer! Do a calibration at 100%. Restart the phone. Than three-five times fully discharge battery (with normal use) and charge it to 100% its times. It take week or so. I have konspon and orginal battery and I dont have any drops - no matter which battery I use. I've made flashable batterystats file and when I need to test new rom and return (I always return) flash it via recovery and thats all.
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I had two defective batteries, no way a calibration would save them from 50% drops.
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Just swapped in my Kompson that I purchased a few months ago as a spare as I was experiencing a 10% drop. From my experience it was definitely battery degradation as it started fine and eventually worked up to 5% then 10% while the Kompson goes all the way down to 0%. It will be interesting to see if the Kompson does the same in such a short period as then it might be the device causing degredation rather than poorly made batteries.
@genesisalgor One question, do you recommend buy this battery?
Link: https://m.es.aliexpress.com/item/32...00&s=p&spm=2114.30011108.6.50.ogmw1U#autostay
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kaneki666 said:
@genesisalgor One question, do you recommend buy this battery?
Link: https://m.es.aliexpress.com/item/32...00&s=p&spm=2114.30011108.6.50.ogmw1U#autostay
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I got one with this label and its the same for me. like the normal one, 3000, 3050.
@genesisalgor Konpson battery still good until now? My 2 year old original battery started to inflate. Thank you.
teamh said:
@genesisalgor Konpson battery still good until now? My 2 year old original battery started to inflate. Thank you.
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Mine is rock solid until now, if it's inflated you should replace it immediately, there's a guy that battery got in fire and ruined the phone too.
genesisalgor said:
Mine is rock solid until now, if it's inflated you should replace it immediately, there's a guy that battery got in fire and ruined the phone too.
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One more question. Is it the store you bought from (BouBoo International trade co., LTD)?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/kon...ttery-free-shipping-Tracking/32360303710.html
I have 5 batteries and a pair of external chargers. One of the 5 is a Kompson. The differences are not abysmal but their performance is better.
Hi,
Where could I buy legit battery (stock or konpson) for Jiayu S3 Advance?
I have this same exact battery, I was the first one to get my hands on in our group and its so good that my facebook friends started to try buying it from me. So I sold it to one of them after I sold my jiayu s3 to get an iPhone.
Now that I just went back from an iPhone 2 months ago into another Jiayu S3 unit, I have to buy another Konpson battery for the same reason why my friends wants my Konpson so bad. LOL
Bye bye batt drops, hello my dear konpson
If you're gonna get one, just ignore what the capacity says. As long as it says Konpson for jiayu s3, you're all good. Those capacity are just labels anyway, in reality its the same capacity to the stock battery, just more efficient as to why it works and performs better than the stock battery despite having the same capacity.
kompson batteries no longer exist. now they are ones called "losoncoer" i think is the same factory (very similar sticker)
soon it will arrive and i will try it
bmanuelangel said:
kompson batteries no longer exist. now they are ones called "losoncoer" i think is the same factory (very similar sticker)
soon it will arrive and i will try it
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What about the LOSONCOER one? Any hint? A lot of russian language commentaries with problems with the shop
H918 with 10j OverDrive rom Werewolf 2.0 no rctd.
My battery started draining a bit faster than normal. I hadn't added any new apps or made any changes to the system.
I'm not a heavy user, no gaming, occasionally stream netflix. Recently I have streamed netflix onto the tv with a cable. The cable is supposed to charge the phone, but it doesn't, so after a couple hours the phone is down to about 50%
So I went to pull the battery thinking the system needed a recalibration.
The battery was bulging (gases building up). Not good. I don't know if this was an isolated issue or as these phones get older, there is a flaw in some of the batteries.
The battery was the original. The phones manufacture date is 10/2016.
As a side note, the phone stores don't carry batteries. Batteries Plus has to order it $39.99. I ordered a couple OEM LG batteries off ebay for about $12 apiece. Now I get to go a week or so without a phone. It might be a good idea to get a spare and check your battery periodically. Better safe than sorry.
Cheers!
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You should have called up LG. I would not trust any 3rd party or eBay.
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Bought Aexpower X2 and a charger on Amazon for about $25 been solid for 6 months
All battery's will eventually fail, it's inherant in the current design iteration of lithium ion battery's, how long and how bad can vary, but a lithium battery that has consistent charge/discharge cycles daily will last around 8-16 months on average, doesn't matter what brand or size, it's just how there currently desgined, wait a few years till we have lithium-glass or lithium-plastic battery's then this will be a thing of the past...
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All battery's will eventually fail, it's inherant in the current design iteration of lithium ion battery's, how long and how bad can vary, but a lithium battery that has consistent charge/discharge cycles daily will last around 8-16 months on average, doesn't matter what brand or size, it's just how there currently desgined, wait a few years till we have lithium-glass or lithium-plastic battery's then this will be a thing of the past...
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Most every phone I have had I owned for 2 years. This is the first one to have a problem. Thank goodness it is removable.
Also, my dad (85 yrs old) had a Moto g4 he wasn't using. He switched to android because I did, but screwed the phone up with really crappy apps. I told him I would set it up for him, but he didn't listen. So he went back to ios. I had to do a factory reset of the phone to get rid of all the crap. Got it set up right and it's not that bad a phone (might even root it). Removable back and battery, SD card. but no IR Blaster. It was unlocked so my tmo sim worked right away. At least I have a phone for the next week while I wait for the new batteries to show up.
I'll be keeping a close eye on the new batteries. I hope no one else has this problem. Very dangerous. The case I had it in concealed the problem. When I took the case off, the back plate fell right off. It had already been pushed of by the expanding battery, but the case kept it from being noticeable.
Cheers!
I have 3 LG V20s and I have bought extra batteries for all of them but have never encountered your issue. Could it be that your custom ROM may have something to do with it?
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I have 3 LG V20s and I have bought extra batteries for all of them but have never encountered your issue. Could it be that your custom ROM may have something to do with it?
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I don't think so. I've been using the same rom and kernel for about a year. Hopefully it was just an isolated case.
Strange that you should post this. I too have just run into this. I normally get about 1 1/2~2 yrs out of a battery on my smartphone, however on my LG V20 that I got in Nov '17 it just started doing the exact same thing. I'm fairly experienced so I was trying to isolate if anything untoward was going on software wise. After nothing really was attributable to the loss I decided to examine the battery and bingo just like you the battery is quite swollen. I'm hoping that the new "supposed oem" battery that I ordered last week (should show up by end of the week) lasts longer than the oem battery that shipped with the phone.
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I don't think so. I've been using the same rom and kernel for about a year. Hopefully it was just an isolated case.
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I am also having bloating batteries. One is the original oem and the other is aftermarket Hyperion. Both are about a year old. I wonder if quick charge might play a factor as I use it all the time.
For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
I do this on my devices religiously... And while my wife does not, after 18 months with our previous Pixel 2's... Mine carries a noticeable advantage in battery over hers.
On occasion, I will let it fully charge, but not for very long, and never plugged in overnight.
Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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You are not wrong.
I have been on both sides of this fence over the many years I have been running Android phones. Phones that I ran for 3+ years and swollen/poorly performing batteries if they weren't babied have both went the way of the dodo bird so to speak. My wife and I ran the OG Pixel and Pixel XL pretty much from the beginning until the 3s were released. They basically lived on a charger when not in use, and neither had any depreciation in performance. My only real strict battery usage rule for the past close to 3 years (including some other devices that belong to me, my wife and my sons) is to NEVER use the device while it is charging. The batteries are better as are the chargers and OS battery implementation, and the odds of me using a device long beyond 2 years is pretty slim. Some things like using the right charger and not messing with charging settings are pretty obvious to me. I will admit that I have my own OCD device things like daily reboots and cleanup, but as far as the battery goes I agree with fury that the device is to be used. If I am losing my time and device performance trying to milk a better SoT that doesn't really mean $hit, I am using the device wrong.
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For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I think that's a hard correlation to make. Usage changes over time. Your battery might last 24 hours no problem on day one, but then you add in a new app that uses more data, or you start playing a game more that uses more battery and you feel like it doesn't last as long. A lot of people say "no, I use all the same apps" and that might be true for 95% of the apps, but all it takes is one to change the battery life.
As others said, if you intend to keep the phone for 2-3+ years, the battery life may be a concern, but if you're planning to upgrade once a year or every other year, I don't think you will see any noticeable gains from worrying about the battery.
When my battery is low, I charge it. I have a Pixel Stand on my desk at work and it sits there most of the day. When I get home I use the phone and plop it on a Choetech wireless pad at night so it's 100% in the morning. It's also on power (albeit low/slow) with Android Auto in my car during my commute both ways. I also have days where I'm away from battery for hours and lose about 1% per hour (fairly standard with Always on Display). I've been doing more or less this same routine with all three of my Pixel XL devices (OG, 2 and now 3) with no issues. The only change with the 3 is that it has wireless charging which makes charging much more seamless.
Hope you enjoy your new phone, however you decide to use it! :good:
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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The problem with this is alot of manufacturers will stop producing batteries around the same time they stop producing the phones. With my experience I've had a hard time finding batteries that were oem quality, and even if you do, who knows how long that thing has sat on the shelf?
If you're all curious how your battery is degrading over time, download an app called Battery Health. It's a very simple app that tells you what % of the total battery capacity is still available for use. It only took about 2 months for mine to drop into the 90's.
I'll keep it as short as possible without opening myself up to all the usual attacks blaming me for the issues.
I enjoyed most of the nearly 2 years I had my OnePlus 6, at the time it was nearly flagship Samsung/Apple quality for a fraction of the price. Since then, every phone has started having better battery life, better cameras, and sometimes other good features often within the same price range.
I noticed the past few months I've often had to recharge my OP6 2 times a day from ~10% to ~90% to get through the day. Not the worst thing in the world but pretty bad for me, considering I don't like to have to stop and stay near an outlet when I'm doing something. Some days I'd have to charge 3 times.
I was on a late Pie build for a long time because the phone was working so well, and if I've learned anything from my Android experience, if it's working smoothly, far more often than not if you try to upgrade/update the system, you're just going to cause problems rather than make anything better. But I thought maybe my battery issues were from apps and messed up settings and OS files over the nearly 2 years past. I updated to 10 with a completely clean wipe using fastboot. I even factory reset and re-installed another Android 10 ROM. But I've learned the battery life is something that's just a limitation of the undersized battery they put in this phone.
The worst part that really pushed me over the edge was the fact that suddenly on 10 I had all kinds of software and firmware bugs. FCs where there were none before, several apps hanging once in a while, features not working properly. None of this happened in 9, but persisted through clean resets and updates of 10.
I decided this phone had a decent run but is no longer for me. Phones now have much better cameras, huge batteries, and generally better features for not too much more than I paid for the OP6.
Sold my OP6 online and my S20+ is coming this week. I don't plan to buy another OnePlus phone until they put in a large battery (~5000mAh or more) and get cameras on par with flagships. They're not by any means bad phones, I just see them as a bit expensive for the features they offer. Though, I admit the build quality seems excellent. Have not had a single hardware issue with my phone, it's had plenty of water and humidity exposure and has never once had an issue for a second. I drop my phone all the time and never had a major scratch, no cracks (though it's in a case), nor any other issues.
Just thought I'd give some perspective. Personally, if someone asked, I'd say the OP6 is a fine phone for the used price they go for now if you don't mind an average quality camera and don't use your phone all day to the point where battery life is a huge concern.
Sounds more like a run down battery. Just get it replaced and it will be much better again!
Of course, newer phones have better cameras and battery, that's the course of things.
I just returned a brand new oneplus 8 pro due to a faulty screen. Of course, it is a better phone in every way. But after going back to my oneplus 6 i have realized that I don't need to upgrade this year. It's running like a machine, snappy as hell, without any issues. So I will also get a new battery soon and use this phone at least another year, maybe two. Only very few phones are still going that strong 2 years later.
Hmm interesting...
I've used mine for well over a year, and I didn't cared much about caring my battery(plugged in all night, inconsistent recharge, etc...). Still, this 3300mAh lasts over 5h30m SOT, OOS10 at any workload(usually I get about 6h 20m, but in terms of real world, a bit less than that.). If I do some extra work and install some custom ROMs, I could sqeeze out a 8h. So I thought it was more than I can expect from a 3300. Strange that yours degraded much faster.... Hope you enjoy your S20+!
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Sounds more like a run down battery. Just get it replaced and it will be much better again!
Of course, newer phones have better cameras and battery, that's the course of things.
I just returned a brand new oneplus 8 pro due to a faulty screen. Of course, it is a better phone in every way. But after going back to my oneplus 6 i have realized that I don't need to upgrade this year. It's running like a machine, snappy as hell, without any issues. So I will also get a new battery soon and use this phone at least another year, maybe two. Only very few phones are still going that strong 2 years later.
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Eh after 300 cycles or so it should not be degraded to needing to be charged 2 or 3 times a day, especially since I babied it trying to only charge it 50% at a time max. Waste of time and money to pay expensive shipping to send it to a 3rd party repair company which may damage the phone (which has happened to me every time I've sent a phone to an "approved" repair center in the past) and the water resistance is destroyed after that as well. It was better to sell it before it became worthless and get a new phone I'll be happier with.
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Eh after 300 cycles or so it should not be degraded to needing to be charged 2 or 3 times a day, especially since I babied it trying to only charge it 50% at a time max. Waste of time and money to pay expensive shipping to send it to a 3rd party repair company which may damage the phone (which has happened to me every time I've sent a phone to an "approved" repair center in the past) and the water resistance is destroyed after that as well. It was better to sell it before it became worthless and get a new phone I'll be happier with.
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Batteries are a roll of the dice. Most of them will behave as intended, some of them will die out quickly.
I bought mine off of Swappa expecting to have to replace the battery as this has happened before but this battery is still doing awesome, even to this day.
Stock kernel isn't terrible, but I've found Smurf Kernel and bluspark give me some amazing battery lives that I've never seen before. I managed to go about 42 hours with 4 hours of SoT.
Another thing is battery replacements are not very difficult for this phone (I'm a certified phone tech so I guess our experiences vary). That's one of the big reasons I got it to begin with. It's very similar to any recent Samsung Galaxy phone in terms of battery replacement. Pretty easy compared to a lot of other phones I looked at.
I've been having the same battery issues on my OP6, high idle drain >2%/hr in custom ROMs and 1.5%/hr in OOS. Barely get 5 hour SoT on a good day. Beleive me, I've tried everything. I'm a student so can't exactly afford a new phone, I'll charge my phone twice a day for now and get a battery replacement in a few months, hopefully that fixes my issues. I've been pretty rough on my battery I'll say but it still degraded faster than I thought.