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I was wondering if anyone uses any of those emergency charger... What do you think is the best one to pair up with the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity? I was thinking of getting Sanyo's Eneloop Mobile Booster.Any more suggestion?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29330531
Doing this myself.
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I've used them on phones before, but not one for my tf700 yet. Hope to soon once some options are out there that have been proven. I like choices.

I purchased the ZaggSparq 2.0 (it was on sale for 50% off a couple weeks ago):
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php
It is $100, but I got it for $50. I haven't actually tried it yet, but I'll give it a go tonight and report back.

blauciel said:
I purchased the ZaggSparq 2.0 (it was on sale for 50% off a couple weeks ago):
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php
It is $100, but I got it for $50. I haven't actually tried it yet, but I'll give it a go tonight and report back.
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how did it go?

Check out my review/mod for the Anker battery. On Amazon for $59 and it works wonders, can be used for all sorts of devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29330531

I use the Anker® Astro2 Dual USB Output 8400mAh External Battery Pack. The original transformer power supply uses a variable charger I believe that uses up to 12v/2.1 A to charge your device (it uses the max when your tablet has low battery life and less when it is near capacity).
My device is limited to 5V on either the 600mAmp or 2 Amp USB port. The tablet does not show itself as charging though when I use the device but my anker device blinks to show that it is charging. I turned my tablet off and left the charger in and the tablet gained a couple of percentage points of battery life after a few minutes.
I didn't know that the larger version could do 9 and 12V, feel like a bonehead for not checking. I got the 8400mAH version because I only wanted my charger to be about the size of my phone at max size otherwise I feel that the portability of the device is compromised (only have so much room in my pockets/bags).
If anyone else understands how charging works, I'd appreciate it if they could explain to me how using only 5v/2Amps would affect my TF700 infinity battery. Thanks.

Diogenes5 said:
I use the Anker® Astro2 Dual USB Output 8400mAh External Battery Pack. The original transformer power supply uses a variable charger I believe that uses up to 12v/2.1 A to charge your device (it uses the max when your tablet has low battery life and less when it is near capacity).
My device is limited to 5V on either the 600mAmp or 2 Amp USB port. The tablet does not show itself as charging though when I use the device but my anker device blinks to show that it is charging. I turned my tablet off and left the charger in and the tablet gained a couple of percentage points of battery life after a few minutes.
I didn't know that the larger version could do 9 and 12V, feel like a bonehead for not checking. I got the 8400mAH version because I only wanted my charger to be about the size of my phone at max size otherwise I feel that the portability of the device is compromised (only have so much room in my pockets/bags).
If anyone else understands how charging works, I'd appreciate it if they could explain to me how using only 5v/2Amps would affect my TF700 infinity battery. Thanks.
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Unfortunately 5v just isn't enough voltage to trigger charging (9v/2a isn't even enough). How long have you had your battery? Amazon has a good return policy, might be able to send it back.

AspenMan said:
Unfortunately 5v just isn't enough voltage to trigger charging (9v/2a isn't even enough). How long have you had your battery? Amazon has a good return policy, might be able to send it back.
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Thanks for confirming. Sucks I bought the wrong one but at least the alternative is only a few bucks cheaper.

Welp, the Zagg Sparq 2.0 isn't even recognized on the tablet or with the dock. :/ Seems there's not enough output.
It works fine for my Samsung Galaxy S III, though.
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Mobile battery packs

I'm checking out solutions for mobile battery packs that are compatible with the Tf700. I've just purchased a veho pebble 13,200mah battery (link below if it let's me)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0SZEM38A0PCXEMC434RR
While it didn't come with the right adaptor I figured I could work out the various connections. The problem is I've realised it's 16V whereas the original charger is 16v so the question is EVEN if I manage to figure out the connections, would using 16v potentially damage the tablet?
Thoughts appreciated

DNO1978 said:
I'm checking out solutions for mobile battery packs that are compatible with the Tf700. I've just purchased a veho pebble 13,200mah battery (link below if it let's me)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0SZEM38A0PCXEMC434RR
While it didn't come with the right adaptor I figured I could work out the various connections. The problem is I've realised it's 16V whereas the original charger is 16v so the question is EVEN if I manage to figure out the connections, would using 16v potentially damage the tablet?
Thoughts appreciated
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If it puts out true 16v then it could damage the Infinity. Measure the output voltage of the power pack with a multimeter.
The battery pack that I bought for the TF700 is the Anker Astro3 10000mAh. It has switchable output 5V / 9V / 12V. The TF700 will charge at 12v (car voltage). There was a brief discussion a couple of months ago about battery packs and what you will need:
Previous Discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1924906
David

DavidHart said:
...The battery pack that I bought for the TF700 is the Anker Astro3 10000mAh. It has switchable output 5V / 9V / 12V. The TF700 will charge at 12v (car voltage). There was a brief discussion a couple of months ago about battery packs and what you will need:
Previous Discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1924906 ...
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I went this route using these USB adapter. Works well. You can use the tablet and phone on it at the same time; I was using my cellphone as a hotspot.

Thanks for the replies, I had already seen that post but I was hoping to be able to answer the 16v question as I had read in other places that 15v should be okay with 16v. I was hoping to get confirmation either way from someone know knew lots about electronics and voltage.
The main reasons for this are 1) I already have the battery 2) it's a brand I know and trust 3) It has a bigger capacity. However I'm a bit reluctant to using my tablet as an experiment so it's looking increasingly likely I'll have to return the veho pebble and pick up the Anker one.
Out of interest how long does it take to charge the Anker? From what I understand the input is only 5v so I'm guessing it's a good 6-8 hours? Also how long does it take to care the tablet itself?
Thanks

The first charge takes the longest, which is probably in that eight hour range. I haven't ran the Anker dead yet. I usually charge it back up after I used it, so it's fully changed whether dead or just a little. But it's a few hours.
The tablet takes about three hours or so from completely dead, assuming it's off. You can charge the tablet back up on the Anker.
I don't know about much on the electricity. I'm sure the tablet has a regulator of some sort, but couldn't say if 16v in would fit with in it or not.
There other larger battery packs like Anker. The problem is most don't have a way to put out the amps needed to register a charge for the tablet. Most just have USB ports, and limit the output to the normal .5mha that work with 90% or other usb devices.

Turbo charger

Trying to understand the limitation of the turbo charger. I understand it can only do a small subset of the battery in "turbo" mode so it doesn't overpower the battery - fine, makes sense. But does this mean it has to be from 1-30% for example or do I get turbo benefit if I had to plug in to top off from 50-80% for example?

I'm 99% sure it only works in the 0-80% range or so. With most chargers, charging slows for the last 5 to 10% to prevent long-term damage. Slow-charging a Li battery will result in better longevity. There is a good chance it will work in the 50 to 80 range, but certainly not the 80 to 100 range.

Does anyone have the turbo charger and stock charger and can offer some stats on charge times, etc.?

km8j said:
Does anyone have the turbo charger and stock charger and can offer some stats on charge times, etc.?
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Turbo charger is on preorder right now. Mine says it ships Oct 14. I would imagine its just a boost anywhere around 2.5 - 5.0 volts. The plug that came with my Moto X is a dual plug that is 5.0v so 2.5v per plug I suppose.

Is it only supposed to be used on certain occasions? Meaning we should not use it as our daily charger?

Weddings and Bar Mitzvahs....:fingers-crossed:

hiroller173 said:
Weddings and Bar Mitzvahs....:fingers-crossed:
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This actually made me laugh out loud. Thank you sir.

I have and use religiously the charger that came with my Blackberry Playbook Tablet awhile back and i bet that it is the same output as the turbo charger. My original X (new custom comes tomorrow) will charge about 40% in 12-15 min. It fly's and my wife loves it too. All my friend and family love using it when they come over.

So it is not the same as the PB charger. Its a QC2.0 charger with 4.5Amp. Your PB charger is no more than 2.1Amp. Most certainly a nice pump incharging but many do that today. Its smart enough not to cook the phone so it should be just fine for daily use. My order still says it will ship on 9/23. Big fail there Moto!

From what I've read, the turbo charger uses Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 which allows the charger to talk to your phone and utilize the full power of the charger, up to 60W if available. It only works with Snapdragon 800 processors. A regular tablet charger will supply 10-15W of power. I couldn't find anything on what levels the battery has to be at for the quick charge to happen, but I think I remember hearing it charges at full capacity up to 67%. I may be wrong on that though.
My question is if Motorola is going to release a car turbo charger. I would rather be able to charge up my phone as I'm driving to go out. Qualcomm lists a few different chargers that use the quick charge 2.0, but none of them are available yet.

xious1 said:
From what I've read, the turbo charger uses Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 which allows the charger to talk to your phone and utilize the full power of the charger, up to 60W if available. It only works with Snapdragon 800 processors. A regular tablet charger will supply 10-15W of power. I couldn't find anything on what levels the battery has to be at for the quick charge to happen, but I think I remember hearing it charges at full capacity up to 67%. I may be wrong on that though.
My question is if Motorola is going to release a car turbo charger. I would rather be able to charge up my phone as I'm driving to go out. Qualcomm lists a few different chargers that use the quick charge 2.0, but none of them are available yet.
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There's a 3rd party car charger on Amazon now that claims to do Quick Charge 2.0, but the price is pretty steep. No reviews yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-Qualcomm-Quick-Charge-Chargers/dp/B00NDEMAJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412285583&sr=8-1&keywords=qualcomm+quick+charge+2+0

jasoraso said:
There's a 3rd party car charger on Amazon now that claims to do Quick Charge 2.0, but the price is pretty steep. No reviews yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-Qualcomm-Quick-Charge-Chargers/dp/B00NDEMAJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412285583&sr=8-1&keywords=qualcomm+quick+charge+2+0
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Yea car only :-/

There's a list of certified chargers on Motorola's site. https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2014/06/04/quick-charge-20-has-arrived

zoid_99 said:
There's a list of certified chargers on Motorola's site. https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2014/06/04/quick-charge-20-has-arrived
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That was the list I referred to, however none of them are available yet, but many of us already have our phone. How could the phone be ready but the chargers are not? Baffling.

Anyone got the turbo Charger yet? And is that incipio one even certified by Qualcomm?
Cheers

Badelhas said:
Anyone got the turbo Charger yet? And is that incipio one even certified by Qualcomm?
Cheers
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Mine still shows as not shipped. As far as the Incipio car charge, Qualcomm lists an Incipio charger, but it is one of the only ones that does not have a link. I'm guessing it's certified though.
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xious1 said:
From what I've read, the turbo charger uses Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 which allows the charger to talk to your phone and utilize the full power of the charger, up to 60W if available. It only works with Snapdragon 800 processors. A regular tablet charger will supply 10-15W of power. I couldn't find anything on what levels the battery has to be at for the quick charge to happen, but I think I remember hearing it charges at full capacity up to 67%. I may be wrong on that though.
My question is if Motorola is going to release a car turbo charger. I would rather be able to charge up my phone as I'm driving to go out. Qualcomm lists a few different chargers that use the quick charge 2.0, but none of them are available yet.
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Grab a power inverter from Lowe's or Home Depot or any auto parts store. Then just plug your turbo charger into the inverter!

borxnx said:
Grab a power inverter from Lowe's or Home Depot or any auto parts store. Then just plug your turbo charger into the inverter!
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I have an inverter, but that is a piecemeal way of doing it. Plus inverters are not small and sleek like many car chargers. Hopefully it will just take a couple weeks for products to start hitting the market.

Are any of the car chargers with turbo charging ability, dual USB ports? I have to use dual port to power My ad2p gateway.
If they are all 1 USB port I won't be able to try it. I'm more interested in turbocharging on the go than at home.

The only one that I've seen is the Incipio car charger. On Amazon, it says it's a dual port, but the pictures only show one port so I'm not sure. I'm guessing the pictures are not correct.

quick charger 2.0

I just bought iVoler quick charger to try it because the price was low and the reviews said it was quality made. I Just received this the other day, and I plugged in my Z4 Tablet and it said Z4 Tablet detected, so it indeed does support the Qualcomm Quick Charging feature! Charging was fast and held strong with my Z4 Tablet. Charging the battery from 0 to 25% in about 19 minutes. And the 6 foot USB cable is of good quality and really nice. It also fits into my Z4 Tablet with a nice click, and fits well around my case. I will definitely buy more of these!
The great product need to be shared.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WSLRCWI

is safe to use ? I'm just wonder why Sony has not advertised this feature

Well, the Z4 is listed as supporting quick charge on Qualcomm's website: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/tablets/sony-xperia-z4-tablet.

I have tried 2 quick charge chargers from amazon so far with the z4 tablet.
No problems and it works with most recent xperias and other snapdragons.

xbill9 said:
I have tried 2 quick charge chargers from amazon so far with the z4 tablet.
No problems and it works with most recent xperias and other snapdragons.
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What kind of charging times are you seeing with the quick charge 2.0 with a battery that big? i.e. 80% in x mins from empty etc. I have been searching for an answer to this but it doesn't really seem to be posted in times but percents.
Thanks

themana said:
What kind of charging times are you seeing with the quick charge 2.0 with a battery that big? i.e. 80% in x mins from empty etc. I have been searching for an answer to this but it doesn't really seem to be posted in times but percents.
Thanks
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3% - 80% 1:45 (h:mm)
3% - 100% 2:45
I used an htc qualcomm 2.0 charger.
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I use sony uch10 quick charger and it does 0-100% in about 2 and a half hour.

I've just bought a QualComm Quick Charge 2.0 compatible charger and I get the same charge rate of 2.5 hours to 100%. Used to take me up to 6 hours previously.

I am using the Anker Quick Charge 2.0 and it charges the tablet in about 2 1/2 hours. It is on sale right now for $7.99 with promo code QPPAQPP5. The regular price is $15.99. (LINK HERE)

Awesome info, just bought two chargers using that code. Much Thanks!

ramontomzer said:
Awesome info, just bought two chargers using that code. Much Thanks!
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You are welcome. It is a great charger. I use it with my LG G4 as well.

So, the Sony charger that comes with the Z4T isn't a Qualcomm Quick Chare 2.0 charger, right? A quick check says 1,5A / 5V and that's also what I measured with a USB gadget. I got the same results with my QC 2.0 charger from Samsung...
I'll try it again with another QC 2.0 charger.
/edit: yeah, the shipped charger isn't QC 2.0. Not sure why my Samsung charger didn't work out though, but I'll test my Pisen QC 2.0 charger tomorrow

HI guys I just test it with my Galaxy S7 / Note 5 quick charger with the tablet USB cable and I'm getting full charge in 1hour 15 min.
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So why did Sony put in a slow charger?

Does the moto G5 supports the Turbo Power 15W charger?

An answer in Lenovo's support forums says the G5 does not support Turbo Power, but it comes with a 10W rapid charger. The problem that here in Brazil not even this 10w charger gets shlpped with the phone, neither can I find it for sale, so I'm thinking about getting a 15W Turbo Power charger, does anyone knows if it'll charge the G5 (25W and above are reportedly not working with the G5)

It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)

Randonio said:
It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)
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Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?

freeZbies said:
Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?
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Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results

Randonio said:
Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results
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Ok, if you do it, that'll hilp a lot, since moto G5 came with this standard 2A charges.

I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.

Sephirothrx7 said:
I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.
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Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.

freeZbies said:
Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.
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You are welcome.
To be honest I have been using the Quick Charger but can confirm if it's working or not. I usually just plug the phone before going to sleep, when I wake up it's already 100% . I will search if there's anything available to detect if it's using the quick charge or not.

Did it work?

I'm using my wife's charger from her G4+ and it seems not boost the charger at all. It takes the same time with my own charger. Normally, batteries got a regulator that protect the battery from being overpowered and, maybe, exploded. So, if it was setted to 2A max it won't work anyway. Also, the official charger detects, through USB interface, if the device support Boosted Charging before sending 3A. If you wanna save your money, my advice is don't buy it.

Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....

mstombs said:
Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....
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Sometimes it can be as simple as a tiny piece of pocket lint/crud in the USB charging port. You can buy cans of compressed air to blow them out same as used on Camera lens or check with magnifying glass and then a toothpick with care to clean anything found out.
HTH

Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.

mstombs said:
Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.
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Sorry about that
But glad you still have the phone