...works!
This may be something documented somewhere, but I haven't come across it. It may be a "well, of course" sort of thing to some of you, but it wasn't to me.
In short, you can activate/deactivate call forwarding on the phone when connected remotely through wifi or the 3G network. For some reason, I thought you had to have a local BT connection to initiate the requests (dialing sequence), probably because that's how I've always done it.
Well, caught myself away from home without my phone today and thought, I wonder if it works remotely? Isn't any reason it shouldn't. So, I turned on forwarding, and it worked fine. Quite a bit longer wait with the spinning busy indicator on the watch display, but it did indeed invoke the forwarding codes on the phone.
On afterthought, this makes total sense -- that's the most valuable use of this function, of course -- when you've forgotten your phone. Still, it was cool to find that this capability is there, and you don't have to "plan ahead" to forward the phone to your watch.
It ups the value tremendously of the 3G feature.
Hey there, I was just wondering approximately how long did you wait for your "spinning busy indicator" to stop spinning and activate the function.
Thanks so much
addielthd said:
Hey there, I was just wondering approximately how long did you wait for your "spinning busy indicator" to stop spinning and activate the function.
Thanks so much
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That threw me for a loop at first too. It's very quick with a BT connection (for obvious reasons).
All I can say is it takes quite a bit longer, and is not consistent. This is likely because the Samsung server that mediates remote connections is involved: Your S2 sends a request to the server via the internet (data), then the server forwards the request to your phone, again over the internet (data).
What I can tell you is that it only shows the "Requested (<time>)" under Turn On if it succeeds and receives a handshake back from the server. So, I don't both watching it any more... I just invoke it, then check in a minute or two to verify the request was received.
I've never had any problems. My only complaint, and it's very mild, is I wish we could select the forwarding mode. Right now, it forwards when no answer or unavailable (phone off or out of range). I'd like to be able to select "Forward all calls" so callers don't have to wait through 6 rings before it comes to me on the S2.
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Has Microsoft (or anyone else, for that matter) ever published a book, whitepaper, or anything else that actually explains how the various components of WM5/6 actually "work" in a real PDA phone?
I've seen various scattered documents at MSDN that tell how to write applications for phones running WM5/6, but I've never been able to find anything that coherently explains how a PDA phone running WM5/6 actually HANDLES incoming/outgoing phone calls -- the apps and DLLs involved, points where you can wedge your own handlers into the event chain, etc.
I guess what I'm really looking for right now is some guidance about where to even LOOK for that info... the official library/object name(s), the proper phrases to google for, etc. I have a hunch that what I'm looking for is NOT in the MSDN documentation tree for WM6 Professional PDA Phones, and is hidden somewhere else in the hierarchy... but finding anything at MSDN feels like searching for a needle in a haystack unless you already know exactly what you're looking for and what it's officially called ;-)
For what it's worth, I want to write my own replacement handler(s) for voicemail notifications. I can't stand the way WM6 stupidly makes me swat away the notification that I have voicemail, and decline to listen to it, then swat away a second notification that I have a missed call before FINALLY letting me know whose call I missed (and by extension, who left the voicemail message). I want to write a handler that shows something like:
Missed Calls:
Joe Smith @ 3 minutes ago (italics = left voicemail)
Jenna Ho @ 2:27am
Matt Johnson @ yesterday 11:52pm
Matt Johnson @ yesterday 10:23PM
on the screen instead.
Also, I use my cell phone as my "real" phone, and have an AT&T cordless phone that pairs with it via bluetooth. Unfortunately, it doesn't notify me of voicemail or received SMS messages, and I can easily go for HOURS without noticing (say, if I'm outside when someone calls, and they leave a voicemail message... until I physically happen to wake up the phone and look at the display, I'll never even know someone called). So... I want to build a circuit using a BlueSMIRF bluetooth-uart module and a microcontroller that toggles an input on my home automation/burglar alarm system (triggering a voice announcement over the loudspeakers), and have my handler app on the phone connect to it and trigger that notification every few minutes until I notice. I also wouldn't mind being able to make the phone go crazy vibrating in response to a received sms/voicemail message, so if I'm somewhere like a noisy nightclub wearing loose jeans and don't notice, it will keep vibrating and making noise until I do.
I can take no credit for this, since my sole contribution is to report it on xdadevelopers, and to have tried that it actually work.
The major breakthrough to make this happen was the developers of MJMD5; DTM, Stewart, netdata, az1234 and teddy_b that resides/ed on magicjacksupport.
read more about the code here, notably pages 3- 7: MJMD5 concept and coding.
The original softphone code is by Regis Montoya, alias r3gis.3R, and his crew: CSipSimple
It has been modified to support MagicJack in collaboration with Spider210: CSipSimpleMJMD5
r3gis made the following remark:
Magic Jack authentication method is now integrated to the trunk of the android port of pjsip. As consequence all future release of CSipSimple will include the Magic Jack feature
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CSipSimple now also have 4G support. Current release is 0.00-13-07, you can find the latest developers build here: d/l latest rev.
The concept has been tested both on 2.2 and 2.1.
The easiest way to obtain your MJ Sip credentials is:
MagicSipac, by kiler129 based on genexweb and stroths work
a variation made by Michael LaSalvia, alias genxweb, based on initial work by stroths is MJSIP - updated method 10/22/2010
for more detailed info of how to use this, see MJSIP details
And, if you like the product, don't be shy. Support the developers Donate!
Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to attach the files, why you have to go and get them yourselves in the links above
Good Luck,
arc
THIS IS AN AWESOME ARTICLE!!!
thanks to the devs and this poster for getting this info and app out!!!
i dont think alot of people understand what it does....YET.
skype charges i think $30.00 for your online number and $2.99mo for unlimited calls/recieve to usa and canada.....$3.00 * 12months = $36.00 + $30.00 for online number - $66.00
with this app you go buy MagicJack at walmart for $19.99 and you get your online number and 12months call/recieve to usa and canada.
ONE more thing....you can take your cellphone with you and use it on ANY open WIFI
Magicjack DONGLE = you have to have a pc.
cant beat that....but the app it self is having call problems with my evo over wifi.
if my screen goes dark the call starts breaking up real bad...dont know why it does....prob just a bug.
also when i am connected and i keep tapping my screen to keep it awake (and stay in call) the call loudness/quality isnt that great....not sure why.
i am over wifi so i should be able to pick good settings in the menu but not really sure what i need to pick
if someone could tell me what to put in that app to improve the loudness when on speaker phone and off speaker phone i would appreciate it.
thanks again to the devs and this poster for putting the info out.
this really should be a sticky i think as its cheaper then anything out there if you "do not have cell service"
great for ppl with wifi only.
What's a magicjack?
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What's a magicjack?
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http://www.magicjack.com/5/index.asp
I had magicjack for two years. Worked great. I would sign up again if magicjack works on Android.
It does work on android. I use it in conjunction with google voice to allow me to sill receive calls when I don't have any cell signal but do have wifi.
All I had to do was add my magic jack number as a forwarding option in google voice. Then when I am somewhere without cell service, I connect to wifi, bring up the google voice setup web page and check the check box to enable forwarding to the mj number. So when someone calls my normal number.... No signal... Straight to google voice... Rings my magic jack number... Rings on my wifi connected android phone.
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It does work on android. I use it in conjunction with google voice to allow me to sill receive calls when I don't have any cell signal but do have wifi.
All I had to do was add my magic jack number as a forwarding option in google voice. Then when I am somewhere without cell service, I connect to wifi, bring up the google voice setup web page and check the check box to enable forwarding to the mj number. So when someone calls my normal number.... No signal... Straight to google voice... Rings my magic jack number... Rings on my wifi connected android phone.
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i not sure i get what you are saying?
why dont you just use mj the way it is being done here already?
you dont need GV do you?
if someone calls my mj number it will ring on my phone and i can answer it.
i can also make calls.
the call quality is just horrible for me though
at least on my evo
i really wish someone could make a guide showing which settings produce the best quality conversation
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i not sure i get what you are saying?
why dont you just use mj the way it is being done here already?
you dont need GV do you?
if someone calls my mj number it will ring on my phone and i can answer it.
i can also make calls.
the call quality is just horrible for me though
at least on my evo
i really wish someone could make a guide showing which settings produce the best quality conversation
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I'm sharing my non-standard use of Magic Jack so that others who hate it when they go onsite (or whereever - maybe overseas at a resort with wifi) and don't have cell service but still want to make and receive calls.
mburris said:
It does work on android. I use it in conjunction with google voice to allow me to sill receive calls when I don't have any cell signal but do have wifi.
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i dont understand the part with GV.
the only advantage i can see if that they dont have to call your original mj number.
GV just forwards its number to the MJ number...i think
you dont have to actually use GV though....the people who call you can just have the original MJ number and you can receive calls on your cellphone when they call that number.
With CSipSimple you no longer need to link it up with GV.
As long as you have you MagicJack Sip credentials, you can use CSipSimple, and now also aSip, to make and receive USA/Canada calls w/o any extra charges, as long as your phone has some type of data connection, 3G/4G or WiFi.
Normally, you need to hook up the MagicJack dongle to a Computers USB port.
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http://www.magicjack.com/5/index.asp
I had magicjack for two years. Worked great. I would sign up again if magicjack works on Android.
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Hey I'm having troubles setting this up. I installed the APK package onto my Droid 1 (verizon) running Android OS 2.2. After entering the username, password and server (with and without a specific port) it says "Register Failed - Check your Configuration". I have tried different combinations of making new advanced config accounts within CSIPSimple to no avail.
edit-- Also getting 'unauthorized' error
Force closing is a common occurrence while tinkering with the settings. What am I doing wrong? Is there a guide on how to set this up by chance? I'm new to the world of SIP/Softphones/VoIP & such so its a bit tedious at the moment. Also, is a microSD card required to use this?
Haven't been able to get my MagicJack SIP info. None of the process explained in the links seem to be working for me (nor for other people over at the linked page). Still working at it though....
i downlaoded the latest CSipSimple at the link in the first post of this thread.
when i disconnect the MJ dongle in my house and then i activate the MagicJack connection in the CSipSimple Accounts area i get a green light indicating i can make and recieve calls and it actually works fine.
BUT
when i take that same exact phone to town and connect to an open wifi hotspot i get the red indicator at the magicjack account and it says it couldnt register
now i only checked this at one hotspot that had an open wifi (Staples) so i not sure if it is in their router settings or if it is MagicJack Carrier detecting im not using my router (the last router the mj dongle was seen at)
if anyone knows it would be good to pass that info along.
Registration Failed, Request Timed Out, or Unauthorized Error
I don't know if this will help everyone with this problem, but last night I was using CSIPSIMPLE/MagicJack and it worked great. This morning, however, I was getting a registration failed error. I ran SIPDump.exe on the MJ device and found that MagicJack had apparently changed my password. As soon as I updated the password in CSIPSIMPLE it registered within seconds.
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Haven't been able to get my MagicJack SIP info. None of the process explained in the links seem to be working for me (nor for other people over at the linked page). Still working at it though....
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The steps worked the first time for me. Just make sure you have SIPDump.exe ready to run and wait for the first ad to start showing up on the MJ softphone, and then quickly hit ok on Sipdump.exe.
Your Username is E**********01 (replace * with area code and phone number)
When you open the first Sipdump1.txt search for Sip.connection.refresh
Your password should be about 7 lines above that. Use all caps when putting the password into CSIPSIMPLE.
My phone number is based out of columbus so I set my proxy to
proxy01.columbus.talk4free.com
CSIPSIMPLE registered within seconds.
Thanks to all who made this possible. I have several places I go that I get wifi but no 3g/cell signal. This allows me to have phone service almost everywhere I go.
hey everyone.
i had this working for some time now. recently MJ changed the passwords so i went in there and got the new one. everything else looks the same but it doesnt seem to register for some odd reason. it says unauthorized. i extracted the keys in both the perk script and the other app mentioned int he first post. they are the same and still dont work. is anyone having the same issue?
any help would be much appreciated.
thanks
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if my screen goes dark the call starts breaking up real bad...dont know why it does....prob just a bug.
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Hit menu -> settings -> lock wifi and make sure it's checked. Your wifi goes to power saver when the screen shuts off.
Please post your experience with the call quality using your MagicJack account on Androic via this app. I've heard mostly bad reviews...
I want this so bad, I leave the country at least twice a year and am always stuck without a phone. Last time I went to UK, Span and France for a month and Skype had canceled their Android service. Two days after I got back they brought the app back (sans video calling). So frustrating.
I tried to get my password, but I was not able. Any suggestions how to find the password and set it on Galaxy S? Any help will be appreciated.
magicjack on andriod phone
Please i need help to use magicjack app on my Andriod Phone some one to help me.
Leaving the phone at home and going solo with the S2 3G by itself doesn't seem to be very popular with people. This wasn't something I considered particularly of value either when I got the watch.
I'm 180 flipped on this issue now. I often operate with the watch only as my connection to the world, leaving my phone behind. Only if I'm going somewhere where I will be away long enough not to KNOW I can be without the additional features (mainly internet access), or know that I WILL need these features will I take the phone now.
That works out to about 50% of the time.
While the watch does have a convenient built-in call forwarding / remote connection option, and it's very helpful, there's a minor issue: It forwards unanswered calls to the watch, so the caller must sit through six rings before it gets forwarded and I even know they've called. I've had people simply hang up before it forwards, thinking I'm not hearing it ring.
The solution, of course, is to forward ALL calls to the S2 so a call to your phone rings immediately on the watch, and then turn off BT on the phone so the watch reconnects remotely. Actually, to ensure you don't miss a call that goes straight to your S2 voicemail, you need to turn off BT first, pause 30 seconds for the watch to turn on 3G, then forward the calls.
Tasker can do this. I've created a shortcut on my home screen using tasker to both turn on, and turn off ALL call forwarding as described above. I use this even when around the house doing stuff, by my phone's sitting in the charging cradle. A BT connection is limited when you're all around the house, inside and out, doing "stuff". I just punch the forward all shortcut on my phone, put it back in the cradle, and I'm good to go with only a watch on my wrist. No bulky phone in a pocket, getting in the way while working on the car, doing yardwork, etc.
I love 3G. My Classic 3G from Verizon arrives by 8pm tonight. YAY! I'll have a dark gray Verizon "sport" 3G version for sale, excellent condition, never locked to my phone. PM me if interested.
Can you post a how to on doing this in Tasker? I'm new and this seems like a great idea. I'm often in the same type of situations at work where I don't always want to risk carrying my phone on me.
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I have a Galaxy S7 edge on Tmobile.
1) Is there anyway to decrease the 30 seconds to a minute it takes for forwarding to turn on after Bluetooth disconnect?
2) When forwarding, My S7 will still ring a bunch of times before the call is forwarded. Anyway for the call to go directly to the Gear S3?
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I have a Galaxy S7 edge on Tmobile.
1) Is there anyway to decrease the 30 seconds to a minute it takes for forwarding to turn on after Bluetooth disconnect?
2) When forwarding, My S7 will still ring a bunch of times before the call is forwarded. Anyway for the call to go directly to the Gear S3?
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I have the same setup. I don't believe there is a way to change this at this point. There will be a delay
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I have the same setup. I don't believe there is a way to change this at this point. There will be a delay
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Yikes, it makes it virtually unusable as the caller has to wait almost ten rings before you pick up on your watch. Most people would hang up by then!
I'll have to look into Google Voice to see if there's a quicker solution.
kronium said:
Yikes, it makes it virtually unusable as the caller has to wait almost ten rings before you pick up on your watch. Most people would hang up by then!
I'll have to look into Google Voice to see if there's a quicker solution.
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I have a solution that uses a 3rd party program. It is a program called "Automagic" for your android phone. If you are familiar with "Tasker" it is similar. Automagic runs in the background on my phone. I have 2 "Flows" set up in the program. The 1st one looks at the BT connection between my phone and the S3. As soon as the connection is broken (I walk away from my phone), it automatically has the phone dial call forwarding and turns it on. I have it set to dial the number for instant call forwarding so all calls to my phone are instantly forwarded to the watch number (there are usually 2 types of call forwarding on the different carriers, one for instant transfer of all calls, and another for allowing the 1st number to ring a few times before forwarding). A caller never knows they are calling my watch. The first ring happens instantly on my watch. If I call someone from the watch they will see it as coming from my watch number (numbersync doesn't do this)
I have the 2nd "Flow set up to watch for BT re-connection with my watch (when I walk back within BT range of the phone). It then has the phone automatically dial to turn off Call Forwarding.
Check with your carrier to see what numbers need to be dialed to turn on and off call forwarding. Also remember there are usually 2 types of forward, an instant, and a delayed. Post back in these forums if you try Automagic. I can share the "Flows" I set up to work with call forwarding. There is a free version of Automagic that allows you to have a couple flows. I ended up buing it since it worked so well and I wanted to support a developer.
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I have a solution that uses a 3rd party program. It is a program called "Automagic" for your android phone. If you are familiar with "Tasker" it is similar. Automagic runs in the background on my phone. I have 2 "Flows" set up in the program. The 1st one looks at the BT connection between my phone and the S3. As soon as the connection is broken (I walk away from my phone), it automatically has the phone dial call forwarding and turns it on. I have it set to dial the number for instant call forwarding so all calls to my phone are instantly forwarded to the watch number (there are usually 2 types of call forwarding on the different carriers, one for instant transfer of all calls, and another for allowing the 1st number to ring a few times before forwarding). A caller never knows they are calling my watch. The first ring happens instantly on my watch. If I call someone from the watch they will see it as coming from my watch number (numbersync doesn't do this)
I have the 2nd "Flow set up to watch for BT re-connection with my watch (when I walk back within BT range of the phone). It then has the phone automatically dial to turn off Call Forwarding.
Check with your carrier to see what numbers need to be dialed to turn on and off call forwarding. Also remember there are usually 2 types of forward, an instant, and a delayed. Post back in these forums if you try Automagic. I can share the "Flows" I set up to work with call forwarding. There is a free version of Automagic that allows you to have a couple flows. I ended up buing it since it worked so well and I wanted to support a developer.
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Hey, thanks so much for writing that up. I may check it out in the future. I called T-Mobile up and they reduced the 30 second forwarding lag to 5 seconds on the their end. That was the lowest they can go, but I'm able to answer the Gear by the 3rd ring now, and it only rings once on the phone.
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Hey, thanks so much for writing that up. I may check it out in the future. I called T-Mobile up and they reduced the 30 second forwarding lag to 5 seconds on the their end. That was the lowest they can go, but I'm able to answer the Gear by the 3rd ring now, and it only rings once on the phone.
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I didn't know you could have T-Mobile adjust that, thanks for the info. I may also try the 5 second delay.
Got mine (LTE through TMob) a couple of days ago and immediately started with problems. I have a separate watch line with an S7 Edge. Essentially I can send/receive text in the stand alone mode but can not call out or receive. (Can on BT) Had the tech guys play with it (they thought it was a line issue) and they put a ticket in. That might get it working in a week. I thought I could bypass the problem with the line using DIGITS and my cell but nope. Turns out (according to the DIGITS guru) its a sim card problem so they are exchanging the watch. Not an impressive first start but I'm hopeful it'll get better. Hopefully...
Everything BT seems to work but its only been 2 days. I still need to check all the stand alone things when I get the replacement. And, of course, stand alone was the point of the watch.
Also make sure it works in remote connect mode, which is more useful than standalone mode.
How does remote connect work? Wifi?
The connection mode is shown by pulling down on the watchface. It will say "standalone", "connected via BT", or "remotely connected via carrier".
In remote connection mode, the watch doesn't communicate with the phone. Only calls and messages directly to the watch's number are transmitted. No notifications (ie. email, missed calls, Hangouts) from the phone are passed through. In remote connection mode, the watch communicates via it's LTE radio to the phone whether it be in different room or a different state. This allows all notifications to be passed through.
I keep WiFi turned off, it seems (inadequately) redundant for an LTE watch.
And the difference between that and Stand Alone is what?
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In remote connection mode, the watch doesn't communicate with the phone. Only calls and messages directly to the watch's number are transmitted. No notifications (ie. email, missed calls, Hangouts) from the phone are passed through.
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I made a typo. What I meant to say is that in standalone mode the watch doesn't communicate with the phone.
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I made a typo. What I meant to say is that in standalone mode the watch doesn't communicate with the phone.
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AHHHHH... That makes more sense. I'm going to use DIGITS. Do you know how that impacts? Or if it does?
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AHHHHH... That makes more sense. I'm going to use DIGITS. Do you know how that impacts? Or if it does?
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Nope, sorry. I use Google Voice, so I don't have first hand experience with Digits.
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Nope, sorry. I use Google Voice, so I don't have first hand experience with Digits.
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How does Google voice work with t-mobile
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How does Google voice work with t-mobile
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Google Voice for the most part, is carrier ignostic. Calls to a GV number can be forwarded to any of several landlines, cell lines, or digital lines. Outgoing caller ID is a bit trickier and device dependent. Messages can be handled through the messaging app or Hangouts.
In my setup, since my public number is under Google's custodianship, carrier assigned numbers are irrelevant/disposable. My watch, phones, and tablets each have their own carrier number, GV is configured to forward calls to each of these numbers, and they ring simultaneously and independently. Ditto with messages. The carrier has no input in this process. The Gear is also ignorant of this. I don't need to use it's call forwarding setting.
I don't doubt that T-Mobile, AT&T, and Verizon will eventually get all the kinks worked out of their number sharing system. But Google has been at it for a few years and offers more features, flexibility, and gives power back to the user.
So here's what we got after 5 days:
With my second watch in hand Im informed that the tMob engineers have decided the watch os bad and needs to go back to Samsung. After explaining that the odds against 2 bad watches were pretty small and demanding to be escalated I got a good manager who agreed. The watch is fine. After some digging she decided the problem was that the line is screwed up on the back end and won't connect voice. Problem is she has no idea why or how to fix it. So I'm waiting for their "engineers" to look at it again with her cracking the whip. Bottom line for me is if I can't get a stand alone watch I'm not interested and expect a full refund AND for them to not market what they can't provide. We'll see.
If the line is messed up, why can't they just start from scratch and assign the watch a new number? Then setup the watch without a phone to make sure it works. This is true standalone. If that works, then the problem is with Digits, not the watch or the line.
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Google Voice for the most part, is carrier ignostic. Calls to a GV number can be forwarded to any of several landlines, cell lines, or digital lines. Outgoing caller ID is a bit trickier and device dependent. Messages can be handled through the messaging app or Hangouts.
In my setup, since my public number is under Google's custodianship, carrier assigned numbers are irrelevant/disposable. My watch, phones, and tablets each have their own carrier number, GV is configured to forward calls to each of these numbers, and they ring simultaneously and independently. Ditto with messages. The carrier has no input in this process. The Gear is also ignorant of this. I don't need to use it's call forwarding setting.
I don't doubt that T-Mobile, AT&T, and Verizon will eventually get all the kinks worked out of their number sharing system. But Google has been at it for a few years and offers more features, flexibility, and gives power back to the user.
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Well THAT certainly cleared up the question...
REALLY PISSED OFF!! Over a week now and TMob STILL can't fix whatever THEIR problem is with getting this watch to use voice! They were really happy to take my money though! SO PISSED!!
So today it actually.worked! With the phone off!
Then it stopped.
Wrote the CEO of TMob and got an answer in 2 days. Seems not all of their networks supports Voice-over-LTG on 4G lines so it doesn't work everywhere (or something like that). Like where I am. They are hoping the Tizen 3.0 will correct that so the watch accepts a.lower quality line but not sure. Outstanding...
UPDATE 15 Oct - if I ran the watch as truly stand alone it would work. By using DIGITS it only uses 3G, which my area does not have. More info.