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Does the Nexus 5 support the correct Verizon bands? I have read and cannot find a definite answer. Any help would be awesome!
sk8boy204 said:
Does the Nexus 5 support the correct Verizon bands? I have read and cannot find a definite answer. Any help would be awesome!
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Officially the N5 does not support Verizon explicitly, it may work but that is dependent on Verizon allowing you to activate the phone on their network. you can try but there are no guarantees. Personally i wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation.
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sk8boy204 said:
Does the Nexus 5 support the correct Verizon bands? I have read and cannot find a definite answer. Any help would be awesome!
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CDMA bands, which is used for voice capabilites and 3G data: No. The Nexus 5 supports CDMA bands 0, 1, and 10. Verizon uses 2 and 5.
EDIT: It looks like my cross-referencing led me astray. Verizon and Sprint use the same 3G frequencies, Band 0 and 1, at 850 MHz and 1900 MHz, respectively. The Nexus 5 supports CDMA bands 0, 1, and 10. In theory, assuming you can get Verizon to sign off on it, it might actually be possible.
LTE bands, which is used for....LTE data: Yes, but it's very very limited. The Nexus 5 supports bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17, 19, 25, 26 , and 41. Verizon mainly uses band 13, but is slowly rolling out band 4 support, but the odds are it won't be in your area right now, and the roll-out is slow.
EDIT: Again, more research suggests that through firmware editing, it might be possible to enable band 13 LTE on the Nexus 5. This is due to the Snapdragon 800 having band 13 support. It would be along the lines of enabling band 4 LTE support on the Nexus 4 (although we had official legacy radios that supported it, so we had something to go off of).
Besides: look at how Verizon is handling the activations of the Nexus 7 deb ("mobile version," if you will). They won't officially activate them, so you have to activate another device on their network and plug that SIM card into the N7, essentially working around them.
So, in short, no it's possible I would not buy this phone if you are locked to Verizon. My advice? Ditch Verizon ASAP. Not just for the phone, but because they are a shady company that blocks competition, among other things.
Johmama said:
CDMA bands, which is used for voice capabilites and 3G data: No. The Nexus 5 supports CDMA bands 0, 1, and 10. Verizon uses 2 and 5.
LTE bands, which is used for....LTE data: Yes, but it's very very limited. The Nexus 5 supports bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17, 19, 25, 26 , and 41. Verizon mainly uses band 13, but is slowly rolling out band 4 support, but the odds are it won't be in your area right now, and the roll-out is slow.
Besides: look at how Verizon is handling the activations of the Nexus 7 deb ("mobile version," if you will). They won't officially activate them, so you have to activate another device on their network and plug that SIM card into the N7, essentially working around them.
So, in short, no. I would not buy this phone if you are locked to Verizon. My advice? Ditch Verizon ASAP. Not just for the phone, but because they are a shady company that blocks competition, among other things.
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Where do you find info about cdma bands for Verizon? Thx
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equake said:
Where do you find info about cdma bands for Verizon? Thx
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My good ol' friend Wikipedia:
Cellular frequencies by company
Cross-referenced with UMTS frequency bands to get the operating band
And finally, the LTE bands by company
And here for the specs on the Nexus 5
I am sad.
Damn, thank you for the reply!
Johmama said:
My good ol' friend Wikipedia:
Cellular frequencies by company
Cross-referenced with UMTS frequency bands to get the operating band
And finally, the LTE bands by company
And here for the specs on the Nexus 5
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From the chart Both Sprint and VZW uses the same 3G FRQ only different Voice FRQ but each carrier can ride the Voice on the 3G bands so conceivably it can still work.
My 2 cents
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CDMA bands, which is used for voice capabilites and 3G data: No. The Nexus 5 supports CDMA bands 0, 1, and 10. Verizon uses 2 and 5.
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I thought that Verizon uses bands 0 and 1 for CDMA. Well I got the information from Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Wireless#Radio_Frequency_Summary so I guess it could be wrong.
But Sprint devices can roam on Verizon's network, so that means that the Nexus 5 will be able to connect to a Verizon CDMA tower. The only problem is getting it to comemct to Verizon, and we still don't know what will happen when we pop an already active Verizon SIM card into the Nexus 5 yet.
equake said:
From the chart Both Sprint and VZW uses the same 3G FRQ only different Voice FRQ but each carrier can ride the Voice on the 3G bands so conceivably it can still work.
My 2 cents
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This is my understanding as well. you should be able to roam on verizon through sprint.
jack584 said:
I thought that Verizon uses bands 0 and 1 for CDMA. Well I got the information from Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Wireless#Radio_Frequency_Summary so I guess it could be wrong.
But Sprint devices can roam on Verizon's network, so that means that the Nexus 5 will be able to connect to a Verizon CDMA tower. The only problem is getting it to comemct to Verizon, and we still don't know what will happen when we pop an already active Verizon SIM card into the Nexus 5 yet.
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Just because some sprint devices can roam on Verizon, doesn't mean ALL can. Every phone doesn't have the exact same frequency bands. That said, I would Imagine any newer cdma phone will be able to ride both verizon and sprint CDMA networks.
^^^ this. And for all we know band 13 LTE is supported by the hardware, just not by a Google that has a soured relationship with big red.
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geebdroid said:
^^^ this. And for all we know band 13 LTE is supported by the hardware, just not by a Google that has a soured relationship with big red.
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All LTE bands are supported by the baseband IP in the Snapdragon but it depends on the FW.
Activation of course is another story ie Nexus 7 LTE. Preactive SIMs should work but its up to VZW to accept it on their towers.
Well I can still hope. I'm on contact with Verizon until February and I'm about ready to kill my GNex. And I can't just go pay full price for a phone. Too much money, but the Nexus 5 is actually reasonable without contract. That's why I want it so bad.
And even when my contract is up, I can't switch, because everybody else is on my family plan. And I can't just go to T-Mobile $30 unlimited prepaid because there is no T-Mobile coverage at my house. (So frustrating, my housing development has towers for all the other three carriers, but when T-Mobile got their tower approved, the STUPID school people and parents got it blocked because it was within 1500 ft of the school. Like seriously I hate those people who appealed that, but that's another argument) And AT&T is too expensive for a single line. And Sprint just flat out sucks.
So I'll be on Verizon for a while, unless they can fight off those school people and get their tower built.
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Well I can still hope. I'm on contact with Verizon until February and I'm about ready to kill my GNex. And I can't just go pay full price for a phone. Too much money, but the Nexus 5 is actually reasonable without contract. That's why I want it so bad.
And even when my contract is up, I can't switch, because everybody else is on my family plan. And I can't just go to T-Mobile $30 unlimited prepaid because there is no T-Mobile coverage at my house. (So frustrating, my housing development has towers for all the other three carriers, but when T-Mobile got their tower approved, the STUPID school people and parents got it blocked because it was within 1500 ft of the school. Like seriously I hate those people who appealed that, but that's another argument) And AT&T is too expensive for a single line. And Sprint just flat out sucks.
So I'll be on Verizon for a while, unless they can fight off those school people and get their tower built.
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if you want other options, I've had lots of luck buying phones on Swappa.
If Verizon said yes, how would the non-LTE part of the phone know which network to hook up with? WithSprint and Verizon phones, they go automatically to their own network when activating. Would different CDMA networks pop up like with a GSM phone?
Can anyone help me figure out if the US Moto G (2015) will work on EE 4G in the UK?
It lists the following bands:
"LTE (2, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17)"
EE in the UK supposedly uses bands 3 and 7.
Does this mean I'd have no problem using a new US Moto G in the UK on EE's 4G?
You'd probably be able to make phone calls and use HSPA+ just fine since the majority of the world uses the same GSM bands for those. As for LTE, you would get nothing since the USA model does not support band 3 or 7.
Rarscaryfrosty said:
You'd probably be able to make phone calls and use HSPA+ just fine since the majority of the world uses the same GSM bands for those. As for LTE, you would get nothing since the USA model does not support band 3 or 7.
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I don't understand. I'd be buying the US version of the phone, and Motorola says it supports band 7.
The question is whether band 7 support is sufficient for 4G on EE in the UK.
jonnythan said:
I don't understand. I'd be buying the US version of the phone, and Motorola says it supports band 7.
The question is whether band 7 support is sufficient for 4G on EE in the UK.
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EE uses bands 7, 3 and 20, if you use a US version of the Moto G 2015 then you will only be able to connect to LTE in a band 7 area, band 7 is 2600MHz so will only be used in cities and towns as it has a very short range, most of EEs LTE network is band 3 (1800MHz) and then band 7 (800MHz) will be used in some cases (it penetrates buildings and has a much greater range) -bottom line is you won't get much LTE at all.
Also if you are considering buying a US version because with a straight conversion it looks cheap, remember you have to pay import duty and taxes once it gets here which will even out the price.
I was looking to buy a US version because my fiancee is living in England and will be coming to the US in about a year. So the conversion rate is better and she'll be able to use it here no problem once she arrives. Sounds like that might not work though.
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I was looking to buy a US version because my fiancee is living in England and will be coming to the US in about a year. So the conversion rate is better and she'll be able to use it here no problem once she arrives. Sounds like that might not work though.
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You'd still get a 3G connection which would be fine for the year so that's still an option?
Hey guys! Not new, just a new account. Recently purchased two new blu phones, a Vivo XL and Vivo 5. The Vivo 5 is my phone and I'm running dual sim with good results. I'm looking for info in regards to coverage with different networks. I know some blu units are missing certain LTE bands and I believe this is one of them. On AT&T the download and upload speeds are significantly slower than the speeds offered by T-Mobile. Does anyone have any information about this? I'm in CT and I'm not familiar with this kind of technology. AT&T obviously has better coverage, but lacks 2g. I want to use my second sim as my main data connection because I can switch to the cheaper plans as they come out.
If anyone has any information, I'd appreciate it!
The OnePlus 6 has band 71 which is T-Mobile's new band. I read that the future 6T will have a version sold through T-Mobile that is"optimized for TMobile." I'm curious what is meant by optimized for TMobile. Any thoughts?
I'm very interested in this, but I've never owned a one plus device. One question that I have for one plus owners is how fast does one plus update their os to the newest android version? I know you can have P beta on the 6 which is really quick. Has it always been like this? And do you think since this phone will be on tmobile, would that make the update slower then the global version?
All it means is t-mobile will tweak the modem. And as for band 71 unless you are in a rural area don't expect much from it. It won't give you amazing speed it willl allow for better signal in buildings and other areas that cause signal difficulties.
nujackk said:
All it means is t-mobile will tweak the modem. And as for band 71 unless you are in a rural area don't expect much from it. It won't give you amazing speed it willl allow for better signal in buildings and other areas that cause signal difficulties.
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Well, I don't live in a rural area, but I did start working in a rural area, and my tmobile sucks, but I did notice there's some tmobile network that I can't access. I'm only allowed to be in their partners network. I wonder if that tmobile network is band 71. I currently have a s7 edge. Is there anyway to find out if that's really band 71?
fredox19 said:
Well, I don't live in a rural area, but I did start working in a rural area, and my tmobile sucks, but I did notice there's some tmobile network that I can't access. I'm only allowed to be in their partners network. I wonder if that tmobile network is band 71. I currently have a s7 edge. Is there anyway to find out if that's really band 71?
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It's possible that it is, but since you can't connect only way to check is t-mobiles map or call them and ask if it's in the area they won't mind, but may be in hold a while.
The OP6 will connect to 71, I have when passing thru area that had it.
And main reason it's rural areas right now is that's where they've been able to get the tvv stains to clear the bandwidth first and where it's most needed.
Should start to see it Lot more in bigger cities next year. T-Mobile working with them to speed it up
Being in the US I'm thinking about buying a foreign OnePlus 7 (nonPro) and trying to get it onto Verizon's network. It looks from the specs that it supports the same network bands as the 6T & 7 Pro & if Verizon doesn't allow it to connect I could call and just tell them it's a 6T or 7 Pro and see if they'll let it connect ?*. Idk it's a big risk to buy a phone and not know if it's going to be compatible with my preferred network.
Anyone know if it will work or know of any non-pro OnePlus 7s on Verizon's network yet?
Thanks!
Tap053 said:
Being in the US I'm thinking about buying a foreign OnePlus 7 (nonPro) and trying to get it onto Verizon's network. It looks from the specs that it supports the same network bands as the 6T & 7 Pro & if Verizon doesn't allow it to connect I could call and just tell them it's a 6T or 7 Pro and see if they'll let it connect ?*. Idk it's a big risk to buy a phone and not know if it's going to be compatible with my preferred network.
Anyone know if it will work or know of any non-pro OnePlus 7s on Verizon's network yet?
Thanks!
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Not sure your source on why you think it has the same bands, because it doesn't. But, it may still work on Verizon if they'll allow it.
heov said:
Not sure your source on why you think it has the same bands, because it doesn't. But, it may still work on Verizon if they'll allow it.
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Sorry, same CDMA bands and very similar overall.
This is from PhoneArena.
Note that the 7 doesn't have band 13 which is the backbone of VZ.
Here is a detailed breakdown of the 4G LTE bands that Verizon uses:
Band 2 (1900MHz): this is a band that Verizon is actively transitioning from 2G/3G for use for LTE. It is currently a supplementary carrier that brings more capacity to the network and is commonly deployed in 10x10 chunks.
Band 4 (1700/2100MHz): Verizon has solid amounts of these bands that it deploys in larger, 20x20MHz blocks in many markets.
Band 5 (850MHz): it is a band that Verizon is still using for 2G/3G services in some markets, while for others, it is using this band for LTE. Verizon holds a lot of this spectrum nationwide and usually deploys it in 10x10 blocks.
Band 13*(700MHz): this is the backbone of the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Verizon has this rolled out to most markets across the nation, but since it is usually deployed in rather small 10x10 chunks, it could become congested fairly easily.
Band 66 (1700/2100MHz): this is a superset of band 4 (meaning that it has all the frequencies of band 4, plus a few additional blocks). It is usually deployed in small chunks and it not available everywhere.
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I have T-mobile & the 6T I'm using has the bands the 7 is without. I'm not sacrificing that to hope it works.
OP stated that the 7 Pro is for North America, & someone thought they may break & release the 7, but there has been no news on that.
My suggestion, just as I did... Don't bother. I won't sacrifice important frequencies for a few more specs. Not worth it.
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Tap053 said:
Being in the US I'm thinking about buying a foreign OnePlus 7 (nonPro) and trying to get it onto Verizon's network. It looks from the specs that it supports the same network bands as the 6T & 7 Pro & if Verizon doesn't allow it to connect I could call and just tell them it's a 6T or 7 Pro and see if they'll let it connect ?*. Idk it's a big risk to buy a phone and not know if it's going to be compatible with my preferred network.
Anyone know if it will work or know of any non-pro OnePlus 7s on Verizon's network yet?
Thanks!
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quickstang said:
This is from PhoneArena.
Note that the 7 doesn't have band 13 which is the backbone of VZ.
Here is a detailed breakdown of the 4G LTE bands that Verizon uses:
Band 2 (1900MHz): this is a band that Verizon is actively transitioning from 2G/3G for use for LTE. It is currently a supplementary carrier that brings more capacity to the network and is commonly deployed in 10x10 chunks.
Band 4 (1700/2100MHz): Verizon has solid amounts of these bands that it deploys in larger, 20x20MHz blocks in many markets.
Band 5 (850MHz): it is a band that Verizon is still using for 2G/3G services in some markets, while for others, it is using this band for LTE. Verizon holds a lot of this spectrum nationwide and usually deploys it in 10x10 blocks.
Band 13*(700MHz): this is the backbone of the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Verizon has this rolled out to most markets across the nation, but since it is usually deployed in rather small 10x10 chunks, it could become congested fairly easily.
Band 66 (1700/2100MHz): this is a superset of band 4 (meaning that it has all the frequencies of band 4, plus a few additional blocks). It is usually deployed in small chunks and it not available everywhere.
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I have T-mobile & the 6T I'm using has the bands the 7 is without. I'm not sacrificing that to hope it works.
OP stated that the 7 Pro is for North America, & someone thought they may break & release the 7, but there has been no news on that.
My suggestion, just as I did... Don't bother. I won't sacrifice important frequencies for a few more specs. Not worth it.
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For TMo, it's only missing 66 and 71. Sure it'd be nice to have these, but the iPhone 7 or prior don't have these, and the iPhone X doesn't even have 71 (but finally got 66) Heck, the Xs was the first iPhone to have 71.
Although it's region specific, mean where you live can have a dramatic impact, most of the US will be fine without 66 and 77 on TMobile.
heov said:
For TMo, it's only missing 66 and 71. Sure it'd be nice to have these, but the iPhone 7 or prior don't have these, and the iPhone X doesn't even have 71 (but finally got 66) Heck, the Xs was the first iPhone to have 71.
Although it's region specific, mean where you live can have a dramatic impact, most of the US will be fine without 66 and 77 on TMobile.
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I think it just depends where you are. I have a friend who before he upgraded his phone had an S6 or 7 & I had my 6T. When we both traveled for work, I'd be getting service with T-mobile and he wouldn't.
Aside from testing it, or maybe checking the below where you live, it's a guess.
https://specmap.sequence-omega.net/#
Me personally, my 6T is still going strong, & the wife is happy with her S10 (since I couldn't get her the OnePlus 7) It has all the bands my 6T has, & she still uses the 3.5 jack, so it was a win win. And for the $565 I spent, she was happy.
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quickstang said:
I think it just depends where you are. I have a friend who before he upgraded his phone had an S6 or 7 & I had my 6T. When we both traveled for work, I'd be getting service with T-mobile and he wouldn't.
Aside from testing it, or maybe checking the below where you live, it's a guess.
https://specmap.sequence-omega.net/#
Me personally, my 6T is still going strong, & the wife is happy with her S10 (since I couldn't get her the OnePlus 7) It has all the bands my 6T has, & she still uses the 3.5 jack, so it was a win win. And for the $565 I spent, she was happy.
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I definitely wouldn't upgrade to a 7 if you have a 6T- it's such a minor upgrade. But yes, the bands completely depend where you live.
Tap053 said:
Being in the US I'm thinking about buying a foreign OnePlus 7 (nonPro) and trying to get it onto Verizon's network. It looks from the specs that it supports the same network bands as the 6T & 7 Pro & if Verizon doesn't allow it to connect I could call and just tell them it's a 6T or 7 Pro and see if they'll let it connect ?*. Idk it's a big risk to buy a phone and not know if it's going to be compatible with my preferred network.
Anyone know if it will work or know of any non-pro OnePlus 7s on Verizon's network yet?
Thanks!
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One plus 7 supports all bands in US like Verizon and AT&T
Don't worry it will connect
Harish263 said:
One plus 7 supports all bands in US like Verizon and AT&T
Don't worry it will connect
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Where did you get that information from? That's totally wrong.
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quickstang said:
This is from PhoneArena.
Note that the 7 doesn't have band 13 which is the backbone of VZ.
Here is a detailed breakdown of the 4G LTE bands that Verizon uses:
Band 2 (1900MHz): this is a band that Verizon is actively transitioning from 2G/3G for use for LTE. It is currently a supplementary carrier that brings more capacity to the network and is commonly deployed in 10x10 chunks.
Band 4 (1700/2100MHz): Verizon has solid amounts of these bands that it deploys in larger, 20x20MHz blocks in many markets.
Band 5 (850MHz): it is a band that Verizon is still using for 2G/3G services in some markets, while for others, it is using this band for LTE. Verizon holds a lot of this spectrum nationwide and usually deploys it in 10x10 blocks.
Band 13*(700MHz): this is the backbone of the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Verizon has this rolled out to most markets across the nation, but since it is usually deployed in rather small 10x10 chunks, it could become congested fairly easily.
Band 66 (1700/2100MHz): this is a superset of band 4 (meaning that it has all the frequencies of band 4, plus a few additional blocks). It is usually deployed in small chunks and it not available everywhere.
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I have T-mobile & the 6T I'm using has the bands the 7 is without. I'm not sacrificing that to hope it works.
OP stated that the 7 Pro is for North America, & someone thought they may break & release the 7, but there has been no news on that.
My suggestion, just as I did... Don't bother. I won't sacrifice important frequencies for a few more specs. Not worth it.
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The op7 (non pro) DOES have band 13. not sure why you would think otherwise.
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The op7 (non pro) DOES have band 13. not sure why you would think otherwise.
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Sorry, that's right. It does have 13.
I guess if someone wants to try with Verizon, give it a shot. Just make sure you buy it from a place with easy returns.
Or wait and see if someone already has, then you won't have to be the Guinea pig.
For T-mobile, my 6T has what the 7 is missing band wise.
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Anyone give it a try?
Wanting to do the same, upgrade from 5t to non pro 7 and really would love to be back on a Verizon mvno.
It seems to have all major bands, just not 66. Anyone get one working?
Any report back from OP? Are you the guinea pig for us?
talliver said:
Wanting to do the same, upgrade from 5t to non pro 7 and really would love to be back on a Verizon mvno.
It seems to have all major bands, just not 66. Anyone get one working?
Any report back from OP? Are you the guinea pig for us?
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Honestly, $469.99 (Red color) plus ~$13 for insurance for the 7 non-pro from GearBest doesn't sound bad (no taxes and free shipping to boot). I may buy it pretty soon and give it a shot on verizon, especially cuz my iPhone XR annoys the hell out of me. I bought the 6 non-T a little while back and almost immediately returned it because my family switched to Verizon the week I bought it. They were very good about the return, so I'm not too worried. Only monies lost was the cost of insurance. Like other replies, I have definitely seen that it does support band 13, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Only 4G band it looks like it doesn't support is 66, which I hear is not used too much. I'll let ya know if I do try it.
alman107 said:
Honestly, $469.99 (Red color) plus ~$13 for insurance for the 7 non-pro from GearBest doesn't sound bad (no taxes and free shipping to boot). I may buy it pretty soon and give it a shot on verizon, especially cuz my iPhone XR annoys the hell out of me. I bought the 6 non-T a little while back and almost immediately returned it because my family switched to Verizon the week I bought it. They were very good about the return, so I'm not too worried. Only monies lost was the cost of insurance. Like other replies, I have definitely seen that it does support band 13, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Only 4G band it looks like it doesn't support is 66, which I hear is not used too much. I'll let ya know if I do try it.
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Kimovil dot Com frequency checker (I guess I can't post links yet)
This site is a godsend.
OnePlus 7 pro has all Verizon bands, oneplus 7 is only missing band 66. Which is why I also think it should work, but I would prefer to have proof before doing it myself
OnePlus 7 pro is so big, heavy, and I am not a huge fan of curved edges. I might wait to see if they actually do come out with 't' versions of both and see what they look like, and if they are marketed to the US
Odd we haven't seen many posts of people actually testing them in the US. It's also odd that Verizon appears to have more available bands than T-mobile. 71 is important for my area, so the 7 is a no go. Interested to see when someone tests it on Verizon.
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What happens if you tell them that its a 6T and get them to add your imei to their database as a 6t instead of a 7?