I know there are several apps that will move apps to external storage but are there some apps that are better left on internal storage due to performance issues? Listing every app probably isn't feasible so are there distinct characteristics or types of apps that I should leave on internal storage vs external?
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Nexus S have a lot of storage for the apps plus it shares internal memory any way, so is there point to move apps to SD?
Does it make apps to run slower if they moved to SD?
Some of the apps installs to SD by default, should I move them back to phone?
Thanks.
as a general rule, it's more beneficial to install apps that can run properly from SD to SD during installation
this saves internal memory space
it doesn't really affect performance
the original concept of App 2 SD was for the older phones that had very little internal storage memory
AllGamer said:
as a general rule, it's more beneficial to install apps that can run properly from SD to SD during installation
this saves internal memory space
it doesn't really affect performance
the original concept of App 2 SD was for the older phones that had very little internal storage memory
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I totally disagree with the general rule part.
I think it's pointless to bother moving something to the /sdcard on a Nexus S (Galaxy S, Vibrant, Captivate, etc) unless you're running out of internal ROM space for apps. Even with 130+ apps (many of them larger ones like co-pilot, 3D games, etc), I never have gone above 500mb used for apps on either my Galaxy S or Nexus S.
I won't say I can't imagine ever needing more than a gig, but it doesn't seem likely in the near future.
There's also a downside to using apps2sd when you're not out of space on the internal memory: you're giving up limited sdcard space for media storage like music and movies. Granted not much, but without an external sdcard, our Nexus S is even more limited in that regard. On my Galaxy S I had almost 28 gigs of stuff on the two cards (int and ext sdcard)...YMMV.
Everyone's usage patterns are different, so there's no right/wrong answer here.
From Droid Forums:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ion-storage-vs-internal-storage-question.html
The droid 3 has 512 meg ram (random access memory) for running OS and apps being used.
It also has 16 gig of internal storage (basically like an internal sdcard/flash drive).
This 16 gig is divided up in to different pieces, some to store the system (OS) files, some to store your apps that you download. It appears to use a little about 2.5 gig for this.
The rest of the internal storage is mapped as /sdcard (about 11.5 gigs). This is where you store pictures, .mp3s, etc....and where apps you download will store their data (kindle books, launcherpro backups, etc...).
A physical sd-card you install is "extra" space for you to store more pictures and songs and such.
Q1) How is the OS allocating between the 512MB RAM and the 16GB internal storage?
Two different pools.
512MB ram is RAM for the phone's OS and running apps.
16GB internal storage is storage of the system files and apps downloaded.
Q2) Are my applications installed across memory and the storage?
Memory is for running apps
Storage is for storing apps
There is no cross memory usage
Q3) Do I have control of where the apps are stored between the onboard memory and onboard storage?
No. On board memory is not for you to use, it's for the OS and running applications.
On board storage is divided in to sections, some for downloaded apps from the Market and where the system files are and another section for your files (documents, pictures, songs, etc..).
The 1.53GB remaining is the /data mounted partition for apps you get from the Market (or other sources). The 11.35GB is for where you would put pictures, music and such. They are both off the internal 16GB storage just separated in to different partitions. (2gb for /data, 11.35 for /sdcard).
Adding an additional (real) sd-card to the slot will mount as /sdcard-ext giving you more storage for pictures, music and such.
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This question was asked in relation to the Droid 3, and the below answer is awesome, and I get it 100%, But I am wondering: Does this apply to the D2G at all? The 8GB internal storage that it has is massive compared to most phones in the same "class". I bought the phone, assuming, actually, that the 8GB was somewhat useful, but it's only been useful by ensuring I never, ever have to install an app on the sd card.
I have 120 apps, yet, 5.93 of this 8 GB is still available. In other words, NOTHING I ever do will come close to filling it, short of finding a way to put my pics/videos/music there.
It seems the Droid 3 allocates this space logically. But is there a way to make the D2G do it? An app, maybe? Or has it been doing it all along without me even realizing it?
You need to be rooted to be able to use that space.
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You need to be rooted to be able to use that space.
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I am rooted. Now what?
This requires either adb shell or a terminal.
First, you need to create a new folder for your stuff in /data, and set the permissions for it to 644 sdcard_rw:sdcard_rw.
Second, to be able to access it from your PC (and make the phone scan it for content along with the SD card contents) you will have to bind it to a folder on the SD, using mount's bind option.
I think that the bind mount won't survive reboots, so you'll have to bind it every time you boot your phone (you can always automate it via a script though).
So is there any usable phone storage on the sidekick instead of using just the memory card?
I guess I read online theres only 135mb of internal space. That sucks compared to the vibrant. Oh well.
Yes, it fills up pretty fast, then you have to weed out the less important apps to make room for the important ones! I wish there was a way to "merge" removable (SD) storage with internal (Phone) storage.
Also a few apps can be optionally moved to the SD card but will lose Widget capabilities.
And it is amazing how many apps are NOT movable to the SD even though there is no reason (widgets, etc.) to have them on internal storage (example: Zippo Lighter).
If you go with a light rom you can get a lot back, gcV2 leaves 380mb for use.
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Motivation: I've just installed ICS 4.0.4 BCM RC4.1U2 on my HTC Desire, and I am finding I have low internal storage. Browsing around, I found lots of people talking about app2sd, link2sd, app2ext, and need some clarification on them all.
As I understand it:
app2sd is about moving part of an application to the SD card. The application will still take up some space on the internal memory. This is the concept, and apps like app2sd and link2sd do this.
app2ext is about making a partition on your SD card, which the phone thinks is part of its internal memory. To do this, I'll have to format my SD card and install a zip from CWM recovery.
So my questions are:
1 - Is my understanding correct? Have I missed any other big apps or tricks to do with freeing up internal memory.
2 - For app2ext:
- I guess that your phone's speed will then be linked to your SD card's speed. What class of SD card do you need for good performance.
- Is there a limit on how large you can make your virtual internal memory?
- Will applications with widgets work if moved to the ext partition of the memory card?
3 - I was previously on Cyanogenmod 7, and had more free space (only about 70mb was used, as opposed to 110mb now), is this just because I've got the next version along, with more features, so it takes more space?
4 - Is it possible that previous ROMs have left data behind that is eating up my internal memory, is there some way to purge this?
Hey guys, I'm posting here to discuss a common feild of today's modern Android devices. That is nowadays you all might be frequently seeing devices with a sort of "combined" internal storage for apps and media both at the same place as both fill the space from the same internal partition or perhaps the only internal partition. My question is that how is this possible as how can both the user media files and apps be on the same partition without affecting or getting in contact with each other as file manager does not show apps but the space is used and same for app storage.
So how does this happen or how does this work and is there any way to implement this on regular phones with partitioned internal storage for apps and media separately (as this partitioning by the oems are sometimes frustrating as mostly the give very small app storage space and unnecessarily larger storage space which is usually replaced by a larger external micro SD card on small storage devices like 4 GB or so)?
Eg of combined storage devices include most Lenovo devices and never Micromax devices.
Thanks in advance for replying.