Hello,
It's been 10 days that I have a Z5. After testing all, I told myself I was going to test the core of Snapdragon following the "problems" of the z3 +.
I am quite troubled. I use Folding @ home to test the operation of cores. The 8 cores It Works together have only a few seconds. 6 core (4 A53 and A57 both) Few minutes. And after-3 minutes, only 4 A53 and 1 A57 at 800mhz Work. In games it is a bit the same. To this are normal ? For me it is not a true OctoCore. Do you think there will solutions to force the use all core ?
Thanks
MaxPayne3004 said:
Hello,
It's been 10 days that I have a Z5. After testing all, I told myself I was going to test the core of Snapdragon following the "problems" of the z3 +.
I am quite troubled. I use Folding @ home to test the operation of cores. The 8 cores It Works together have only a few seconds. 6 core (4 A53 and A57 both) Few minutes. And after-3 minutes, only 4 A53 and 1 A57 at 800mhz Work. In games it is a bit the same. To this are normal ? For me it is not a true OctoCore. Do you think there will solutions to force the use all core ?
Thanks
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In simple terms; it is down to the app to decide how many cores to use. The app is programmed in such a way to utilize X amount of cores. When you run older apps what were written for 1 and 2 core processor phones they will use 1 and 2 cores.
So yes, not using all cores is normal. When everybody is using an octo-core processor phone, apps will use all 8 cores at the most efficient level.
gamer649 said:
In simple terms; it is down to the app to decide how many cores to use. The app is programmed in such a way to utilize X amount of cores. When you run older apps what were written for 1 and 2 core processor phones they will use 1 and 2 cores.
So yes, not using all cores is normal. When everybody is using an octo-core processor phone, apps will use all 8 cores at the most efficient level.
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Thanks to you answer. But i kown that. Folding is an app that use all core. I think Sony quickly disables core to avoid overheating. For me it's not normal. Z5 never use 8 core more than few secondes
Slightly offtopic but is there many other apps that would use all cores to test?
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zippy01 said:
Slightly offtopic but is there many other apps that would use all cores to test?
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Yes (normaly) apps Benchmark test single cpu, (instruction, optimization) en all cpu like Antutu, GeekBench 3 ect....
MaxPayne3004 said:
Yes (normaly) apps Benchmark test single cpu, (instruction, optimization) en all cpu like Antutu, GeekBench 3 ect....
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Antutu will use all cores available to it but try running successive benchmarks and you'll soon notice that the scores drop lower and lower as the phone heats up. Now I don't know if cores are being disabled or the clocks are just lowered but either way, you can't use all 8 cores at full speed for long...
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Antutu will use all cores available to it but try running successive benchmarks and you'll soon notice that the scores drop lower and lower as the phone heats up. Now I don't know if cores are being disabled or the clocks are just lowered but either way, you can't use all 8 cores at full speed for long...
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Yes agree. i'm slightly disappointed on this point. That all ^^
See now I just recently got the Z5 over my half broken z3 cause it's a 8 core vs the 4 core in the z3, but even with Antutu it only uses 4 cores, even when they're completely maxed out. I've pretty much gone from a 2.5 ghz cpu to a 1.5, it is they programs are not reading it or they're just not being used?
It's kind of infuriating really, if they won't be used ever I will send it back and get a higher clocked 4 core cpu phone.
Some times core 4 is used, slightly, would a custom rom be able to fix the issue with core not being used??
Benchmarking software should be able to max out all cores on a cpu.
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Hello guys,
Since i`ve seen so many debates about single vs dual-core, today i was bored and i tested with antutu and quadrant this thing.( I know that benchmarks isn`t a real proof in day-to-day performance )
WANT THE SCRIPTS FOR UNDERVOLTING AND FORCING CPU1 ONLINE OR OFFLINE ? See 2nd post
SO , what I actually did:
-flashed a freshly new rom ( using elegancia 3.1.0 for about 2 weeks and i found to be very stable and smooth with better battery life than any other rom i`ve tested)
-flashed latest bricked kernel min 192 mhz max 972 mhz with gpu oc @300mhz, lagfree governor, I/O deadline, both cores online via init.d script, booted and tested with antutu and quadrant and then i let the phone settle for a while to see what is the power consumption in stand-by with battery monitor widget.
-after that, i flashed bricked kernel with only max speed change to 1836 mhz, cpu1 offline via inid.d script and made those tests again
Here`s what I got:
Antutu: 4827 (both cores online, clocked @ 972 Mhz)
Quadrant: 2592
BMW: -19mA
Antutu: 4593 ( cpu1 offline, clocked @ 1.836 Ghz )
Quadrant: 3393 ( cpu1 offline, clocked @ 1.836 Ghz )
BMW: -28mA
Those numbers doesn`t reflect exactly the user experience. Some apps opened faster with 2 cores, some faster with only 1 core clecked at higher speed. The only major difference i noticed was in the browser( stock ICS browser) where the more fluid experience was with both cores on.
I`m gonna test those 2 configuration further to see which one has better battery and post some screenshots.
I will add a poll to see which configuration you think is the best.
Be aware that SoC are not created equaly, so the UV script or OC will NOT work with all devices.
Unrar the archive and choose what you want
This files needs to be copied in /system/etc/inid.d and then set the right permissions ( read: all 3 needs to be checked; write: owner checked; execute: same as read) . You need a file explorer that has access up to root ( i recommand Root exploer)
Benchmarks should always be done using Performance governor for consistency
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Benchmarks should always be done using Performance governor for consistency
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I knew that, but i wanted a more real-life experience, and in my opinion there isn`t that much difference in lagfree vs performance. I ran benchmarks 2 times and the scores where almost identical
Please be aware that because of the instruction sets hard coded at low level into the cpu it doesn not mean that 2x 900mhz cpu cores is equal to 1x 1800mhz cpu core because of the way in which the second core is utilised. Its exactly the same with pc's hence why sometimes an AMD cpu with 2 cores can give a better real world performance benchmark than an intel cpu with 4 cores. the same applies vice versa, it just depends on what instruction sets were used and how the cpu is used. Benchmarking stuff like this is not a reliable way to test
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Please be aware that because of the instruction sets hard coded at low level into the cpu it doesn not mean that 2x 900mhz cpu cores is equal to 1x 1800mhz cpu core because of the way in which the second core is utilised. Its exactly the same with pc's hence why sometimes an AMD cpu with 2 cores can give a better real world performance benchmark than an intel cpu with 4 cores. the same applies vice versa, it just depends on what instruction sets were used and how the cpu is used. Benchmarking stuff like this is not a reliable way to test
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Thanks (I'd use thanks button,but i'm limited to 8 oer day) for clarifying this for me and any other users, this post should be sticky because many members on xda think that way. I am aware that 2x900 doesn't equal 1x1800, but I didn't knew the exact explanation. The only reason that I did these tests was to see which configuration gives the best battery life. Their not equal, but acording to antutu, quadrant and end user experience they are comparable
Thanks for your time in doing these tests... It might not be reliable but it was interesting to know bout it... Im curious between the two tests though, which test puts the cpu under more stress? the first test shows awesome result on the battery so being single core might stress the cpu more, im guessing
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AndroidNeophyte said:
Thanks for your time in doing these tests... It might not be reliable but it was interesting to know bout it... Im curious between the two tests though, which test puts the cpu under more stress? the first test shows awesome result on the battery so being single core might stress the cpu more, im guessing
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33% left and it's running for15 hours with 2 cores
Hi,
So I have honor 6 H60_L04 rooted .
I have better battery stats installed.
When I look at the CPU states, the maximum state it goes to is only 1.3ghz. I know this phone has like dual quad core, 1 for heavy processing, another for daily/light activities.
I've tried using performance mode, running antutu benchmarks, but the 1.7ghz state doesn't seem to appear at all under the statistic.
I've also tried normal power state mode.
Do you know any idea how to activate the fasterr processor?
fever003 said:
Hi,
So I have honor 6 H60_L04 rooted .
I have better battery stats installed.
When I look at the CPU states, the maximum state it goes to is only 1.3ghz. I know this phone has like dual quad core, 1 for heavy processing, another for daily/light activities.
I've tried using performance mode, running antutu benchmarks, but the 1.7ghz state doesn't seem to appear at all under the statistic.
I've also tried normal power state mode.
Do you know any idea how to activate the fasterr processor?
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honor 6 has two sets of quadcore processors(arm big.little configuration)
the cpu apps shows only the frequencies of little i.e, the little 1.3ghz processor and not the bigger 1.7ghz set
see cpu z app if you have any doubts
I believe the kirin architecture uses 4 cortex A15 cores and four energy efficient A7 cores. During normal use the A7s run at a max of 1.3ghz (fine for general use) and the A15 cores are under clocked. Then for intensive use (gaming etc) the A15 cores run at 1.7ghz
Here is an attached screen shot of my cpu-z
At the bottom of the screen, it says interactive governor.
But i did plenty of antutu benchmarks. Shouldn't that work the A15 cores to 1.7ghz? Or is better battery stats not showing me the second quadruple cores states?
But i did plenty of antutu benchmarks. Shouldn't that work the A15 cores to 1.7ghz? Or is better battery stats not showing me the second quadruple cores states?
fever003 said:
But i did plenty of antutu benchmarks. Shouldn't that work the A15 cores to 1.7ghz? Or is better battery stats not showing me the second quadruple cores states?
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More than likely BBS only reading the A7 cores. In CPU-Z for example, if I constantly click the square task button in the navigation bar and then click CPU-Z I can see the speed go up to 1.7Ghz.
Also until/unless Huawei release the kernel source there won't be any ability to overclock unfortunately... which is frustrating as the A15 can easily be clocked to 2GHz :crying:
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More than likely BBS only reading the A7 cores. In CPU-Z for example, if I constantly click the square task button in the navigation bar and then click CPU-Z I can see the speed go up to 1.7Ghz.
Also until/unless Huawei release the kernel source there won't be any ability to overclock unfortunately... which is frustrating as the A15 can easily be clocked to 2GHz :crying:
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Coool.. Thanks alot! The A15 does go up to 1.5Ghz+++ when i spam the screen or buttons while in CPU-Z. So it is BBS then that is not tracking the A15 cores. Thanks agaiN!
I bought the phone today, but I think it's way slower than it should be. I know that the LG G Flex 2 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 with 2.0 GHz quad core and a 1.5 Ghz quad core (octa core) CPU, but after i have runned a couple of benchmark tests in Antutu, I got a score between 35000 to 40000! That's way slower than Samsung Galaxy S5's Snapdragon 801! I thought that it whould get a score over 50000 When I see info about my CPU in Antutu after bemchmark test, it stands that the first four cores has a frequency of 1.5 GHz, while the other four cores has a frequency of 0.9 GHz (two of them are "sleeping" a lot)! Is it possible to fix that? I hope so. I've got the 16GB version with 2GB of DDR4 RAM. The device is upgraded to 5.1.1 Lollipop. (Sorry for bad English, I'm from Norway)
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I bought the phone today, but I think it's way slower than it should be. I know that the LG G Flex 2 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 with 2.0 GHz quad core and a 1.5 Ghz quad core (octa core) CPU, but after i have runned a couple of benchmark tests in Antutu, I got a score between 35000 to 40000! That's way slower than Samsung Galaxy S5's Snapdragon 801! I thought that it whould get a score over 50000 When I see info about my CPU in Antutu after bemchmark test, it stands that the first four cores has a frequency of 1.5 GHz, while the other four cores has a frequency of 0.9 GHz (two of them are "sleeping" a lot)! Is it possible to fix that? I hope so. I've got the 16GB version with 2GB of DDR4 RAM. The device is upgraded to 5.1.1 Lollipop. (Sorry for bad English, I'm from Norway)
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i got mine at Tuesday. I can pretty much say i never experienced a lag before even tho i had many apps in the recent apps tab and also i was playing high quality games and it got a little bit hot but still it was working flawless, very very fast. What i did after i updated to 5.1.1 i did a factory reset, then i downloaded only the apps that are indeed from lg apps such as calculator downloads quickremote (because most of them are useless and slow down the phone) and then i downloaded a custom launcher and greenify. Also use the google keyboard from google play store. better to use google's apps rather than lg's. Since then i never experianced any lag before. try it out. If u need more help tell me
That is really low. Go into settings and into battery saver and check if you maybe turned it on, and also see if you checked option to optimize battery in games.
Try restarting the phone and run antutu again, after a couple of minutes..
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You are from a cold country so it should help. First try let rest the phone and launch antutu when it's at room temperature.
Then try with an ice pack on the back. It can be ice pack for injuries (kind of thick gel in plastic bag) or for cool box or ice chest, whatever you call it. But don't use it too long, you may have condensation inside the phone and it will trigger the humidity sticker (for your warranty).
Don't launch antutu after a reboot, as it's warm after a reboot. Or reboot and let it cool down first.
As the title says, I've noticed with my Witson module PX5 - 4 cores are running at 1.5Ghz and 4 are running at 1.2Ghz, using "Kernal Adiutor" I can't select anything higher for those cores. Could this be due to the binning process and I got a lemon or is everyone's like that? I know that with PC GPUs if the chip isn't quite up to quality they will clock them lower and sell them as a lower model.
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As the title says, I've noticed with my Witson module PX5 - 4 cores are running at 1.5Ghz and 4 are running at 1.2Ghz, using "Kernal Adiutor" I can't select anything higher for those cores. Could this be due to the binning process and I got a lemon or is everyone's like that? I know that with PC GPUs if the chip isn't quite up to quality they will clock them lower and sell them as a lower model.
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Just to answer my own question, it seems ARM processors often have what's called a "big.LITTLE" configuration where 4 powerful cores are for heavy duty work, and 4 smaller cores are for low power tasks to help battery life https://developer.arm.com/technologies/big-little
If the usage falls below a threshold it will migrate the whole thread to the smaller cores and vise versa
Hi everyone.My xzp's CPU cores all time online .Even if i do nothing.This is a problem ?.Or all snapdragon 835 same like that.You in the same situation.
Refik silvan çağlar said:
Hi everyone.My xzp's CPU cores all time online .Even if i do nothing.This is a problem ?.Or all snapdragon 835 same like that.You in the same situation.
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It's normal. Most of the time it's better if the cores are online when you're using the phone for that smooth operation. Because if some cores are off because the manufacturer configured it that way. you'll experience quite Abit of choppiness. An I don't think you want that. An also it takes more power to rammed up from 0-100% of cores usage then from maybe 25% - 100%.