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Is there any way (via app/driver) to increase the display resolution for a docked g-tablet?
It looks like the hardware can drive much higher resolutons: tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/does-tegra-250-support-2-deferent-video-output-hdmi-and-vga-same-time
I see the Motorola Atrix has an app that does this trick when docked in their "laptop" dock. It would be real slick to do this with my docking unit - I would probably never go back to a laptop or desktop again, except for remote control from my tablet.
TIA
It wouldn't make sense for a device to push more pixels than the actual LCD is capable of.
I don't care about the display on the tablet when it is docked and hooked to an external monitor - that could be turned off. What matters is the external display and how crappy 1024x600 looks on a 19" 16:9 monitor made to display 1440x900.
Our HDMI out is 1080p. 1080x1920
What are you hooked up to when getting higher resolution? Does the tablet display just turn off and external takes over?
Everything I have hooked my dock up to (4:3 and 16:9 19" monitors and 720p TV) gets the same resolution as my tablet display. So the bigger the display the more jagged the experience.
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i havent tested my hdmi output (waiting for straight cable) but the specs are there.
since max resolution on the gtab is 1024x600, thats what youl see, but through the cord the (720p, 1080p) resolution should show on the HD TV.
Hi Resolution when you use the YouTube.apk
stumppc said:
Is there any way (via app/driver) to increase the display resolution for a docked g-tablet?
It looks like the hardware can drive much higher resolutons: tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/does-tegra-250-support-2-deferent-video-output-hdmi-and-vga-same-time
I see the Motorola Atrix has an app that does this trick when docked in their "laptop" dock. It would be real slick to do this with my docking unit - I would probably never go back to a laptop or desktop again, except for remote control from my tablet.
TIA
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I was able to get HD (1080p) using the YouTube.APK by selecting HD mode in the application setting. Both the Tablet and the external screen played 1080p videos quite nicely. If you turned off the Tablet display, the external screen also went blank. When I quit out of the APK and set the Tablet to sleep, the HDMI setting appeared to stick in the main Tablet settings. There is no easy way to set the Gtablet resolution using the standard stock settings.
After a few days and trying different TV streaming APKs from the Market. The HDMI Out stopped working altogether. I did a reboot as well as Flash the ROM but the HDMI OUT still does not display. It does recognize the HDMI signal (the LCD shows 1080P) from the dock HDMI port. I am not sure what happened but some how one or more default settings are stuck in the user data configuration file. One of those settings makes my SHARP external display go blank (can't display the set mode). The GTablet continues to display in both 420P and HD (probably 720P) modes.
I will try a data wipe and Flash again to see if it clears the HDMI setting back to the default mode (I believe that is 420p).
If this is the case, then we need some type of HDMI.apk that allows one to set the screen mode to Tablet only, Tablet & External or External only AND set the resolution mode for each. When watching using the dock and an external LCD, I want the default to be 1080p.
So, far when tricking the Gtablet to display 1080p I have some how broken the dock and have not been able to reset back to factory settings.
Any suggestions and/or configuration apk's to resolve this problem?
EKS
Hi Resolution when you use the YouTube.apk
stumppc said:
Is there any way (via app/driver) to increase the display resolution for a docked g-tablet?
It looks like the hardware can drive much higher resolutons: tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/does-tegra-250-support-2-deferent-video-output-hdmi-and-vga-same-time
I see the Motorola Atrix has an app that does this trick when docked in their "laptop" dock. It would be real slick to do this with my docking unit - I would probably never go back to a laptop or desktop again, except for remote control from my tablet.
TIA
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I was able to get HD (1080p) using the YouTube.APK by selecting HD mode in the application setting. Both the Tablet and the external screen played 1080p videos quite nicely. If you turned off the Tablet display, the external screen also went blank. When I quit out of the APK and set the Tablet to sleep, the HDMI setting appeared to stick in the main Tablet settings. There is no easy way to tell in the standard GTablet setting function.
After a few days and trying different TV streaming APKs from the Market. The HDMI Out stopped working. I did a reboot as well as Flash the ROM but the HDMI OUT still does not display. It does recognize the HDMI signal (the LCD shows 1080P) from the dock HDMI port. I am not sure what happened but some how one or more default settings are stick in the configuration file. I will try a data wipe and Flash again to see if it clears the HDMI setting back to the default mode (I believe that is 420p).
If this is the case, then we need some type of HDMI.apk that allows one to set the screen mode to Tablet only, Tablet & External or External only AND set the resolution mode for each. When watching using the dock and an external LCD, I want the default to be 1080p.
So, far when tricking the Gtablet to display 1080p I have some how broken the dock and have not been able to reset back to factory settings.
Any suggestions and/or configuration apk's to resolve this problem?
EDIT: Fixed the HDMI Display by using new cable. I get really nice HD output using the YouTube.APK with the settings set to HD.
EKS
Is there any speed-governor app for the Xoom that can be configured to lock the CPU to 1000MHz whenever the soft input area is active (or better yet, whenever Graffiti input is active), and/or a way to increase the digitizer sample rate?
Historically, Graffiti has been totally unusable on my Xoom. Literally, so low of a sample rate, and so many errors, that I just couldn't use it. I finally got around to unlocking and reflashing my Xoom to CM10 last night, and locking the CPU to 1000MHz makes it work a lot better... but the accuracy is still a cruel joke compared to even my creaky, old Hero overclocked to 711MHz.
It's pretty sad, actually. On the Hero, the digitizer seems to be reporting samples at least 4-16 times as often, and I can get nearly 100% accuracy without even trying. On the Xoom locked to max speed, it seems to do a tiny bit better than my S3 gets with stock, but the sample rate still appears to be absurdly low compared to what it was on the Hero, and feedback seems to lag the actual touch by at least 100-200ms. On the Hero, feedback was literally instant... stroke, and see the pixels turn white INSTANTLY under my fingertip. On the Xoom (locked to max), they start turning white a fraction of a second after I touch the screen, and I can see the last bit of the stroke render a fraction of a second after I lift my finger away. With the stock Xoom rom, it was more like, "draw the character, and see a jagged impression of it sputter into existence about a half-second later... maybe, MAYBE even getting recognized correctly about 70% of the time".
I'm guessing that either the Xoom's digitizer has a limited sample rate, or something in the kernel or driver is limiting the sample rate... but I'm still trying to find a straight answer somewhere about whether/how you can build a custom kernel without losing your ability to run paid Market apps. Or whether it's even necessary to go to that extreme, as opposed to something like a setting that tells Android to increase the sample rate, or not throttle the CPU when an input area is active, or maybe a way to let something like SetCPU identify "soft input area active" as a profile-triggering condition. I'm also pretty sure that the Xoom's kernel (if not recent versions of Android itself) try to treat the existence of a soft input area as an excuse to massively throttle the CPU, on the theory that it's just displaying a picture of a keyboard and waiting for a blunt press. HOWEVER, I'm SURE there HAS to be an equally-official way of defeating that behavior, if only because it would also screw up Android's ability to handle east Asian input methods.
Dear guys and gals,
Found a key for touch prediction that when edited showed a marked improvement in keyboard responsiveness and small item manipulation ie classic desktop, file explorer, etc.
The key is: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TouchPrediction
Edit key for latency from 8 to 2.
Edit sample time from 8 to 2
Restart
See attached for a edited registry key to inject. Tested on two surfaces with no ill effects.
edit: to answer a few questions: this increases performance on all touch aspects of the device
The most likely ill effect would be a decrease in battery life as the system must poll the touchscreen more often... just be aware. Otherwise, cool find.
Keyboard does seem faster... Does this also affect swiping? it seems like I can swipe in any way and get the full length of the page / app in one swipe?
Haven't noted in marked increase in battery consumption but I will monitor.
Could this improve the home key button, when my surface is on standby it takes about 6 taps to get the surface to wake up.
possibly, I have not tested the mod for that per say,
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Could this improve the home key button, when my surface is on standby it takes about 6 taps to get the surface to wake up.
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I also have not noticed an increase in battery usage on my asus vivo tab. Not a surface, but rt.
What would decreasing the values to 1 due? I am assuming the lower the value, the better. Or did it not test well on Surface?
Originally I choose 2 to test the battery draw. However, now that I haven't seen any significant increase in battery usage the drop to 1 can be done.
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What would decreasing the values to 1 due? I am assuming the lower the value, the better. Or did it not test well on Surface?
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Is it that easy for all the values? In other words, can all of the registry values be set to 1 to improve performance? Or are all the values a certain number for a reason? Cuz if latency of 1 works better than the original 8, idk why Microsoft would put it at 8 in the first place. Sorry for all the questions. This stuff is interesting to me!
First off all any values are "safe values". Some screens might be of worse quality then others (different manufacturers of parts). Having that value setup to happy medium means all screens act the same. You lower the value you demand that screen reads the inputs faster and more often. Might not be a good idea on some devices.
Not only talking about surface. Remember win8 (especially pro) will go on many different devices.
Also if you set sampling and refresh to low it might start having ghost touches from minimum input that would normally not be visible (oversensitive).
Best to practice and find perfect for you and your device.
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First off all any values are "safe values". Some screens might be of worse quality then others (different manufacturers of parts). Having that value setup to happy medium means all screens act the same. You lower the value you demand that screen reads the inputs faster and more often. Might not be a good idea on some devices.
Not only talking about surface. Remember win8 (especially pro) will go on many different devices.
Also if you set sampling and refresh to low it might start having ghost touches from minimum input that would normally not be visible (oversensitive).
Best to practice and find perfect for you and your device.
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How about the other regs that don't really have a highest/lowest rate? For example, Disable Hotmail is defaulted at 2. What would changing that to 1 do?
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How about the other regs that don't really have a highest/lowest rate? For example, Disable Hotmail is defaulted at 2. What would changing that to 1 do?
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No there is no general rule where lower value is better. Some of the values displayed are "face values" where 2 is 2 like refresh 2 times a second. Some times 2 and 1 have a meaning off or on (like your hotmail). Remember PC reads numbers. Even more sometimes numbers, text or mix you see like 8 or 4 are actually representations of some kind of code for example hex or binary.
If you do not know what the number represents then changing it is a guess and nothing more. Just have a backup copy as fiddling in registry with drivers can have funny side effects. I did make my hd7 think i am touching it everywhere all the time so it hang seconds after boot
Are we sure this does anything at all? In order to test if the differences were psychological, I set the number to a ridiculously high value and it didn't seem to behave any differently.
Yup I found noticeable differences in fine touch control including in the registry,window control, etc.
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Are we sure this does anything at all? In order to test if the differences were psychological, I set the number to a ridiculously high value and it didn't seem to behave any differently.
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Thanks a lot!
Is 2 a good value in the case of the surface PRO 1 ?
"touch prediction" did prediction, not pooling!
"Latency" = how much milisecond to look ahead
"SampleTime" = the period in milisecond to average your finger's motion
The effect is thus:
Larger "latency" make the pointer overshoot, smaller "latency" make the pointer lag behind (1 - 100 milisecond depending on your system performance).
There's no penalty on your tablet's battery or digitizer's life for turning TouchPrediction off, and you don't need to restart to see the effect. (try finger drawing in MS Paint to see effect)
If your Surface missed touch, then try to cool the back of your tablet. It might be thermal throttling.
Anyone pre-ordered yet?
Got myself a stonking deal
i7, 8Gb, 256Gb, Type 3 cover, spare PSU, £650....
Whoa, how'd you pull that off? That's a hell of a deal.
Signed a 10k deal at work, I asked for a free one but they said no, so I asked for a cheap one, hour later they came back with that offer, basically half price Pro 3 with free Type cover and spare PSU...
i7/8Gb/256Gb, should do the job
Well, aren't you lucky! Sadly, 10k is a couple orders of magnitude more people than my company employs, so I doubt I can convince the boss to let me sign for that many
I have the i5 256Gb model. I love it as it's exactly what I was after, large screen running windows so I could easily run lightroom and photoshop. I've had ipads for years and it takes a bit of getting used to. The screen is a little large for general tablet use and of course its a full on PC so can get v.hot and the fan can get full on loud at times. I also gets a lot more respect and thought when getting thrown in a bag, and there are places I would use the ipad without thinking where I would be more worried about the surface getting damaged. I has almost won w8 over for me as well though it's still far from perfect
Please share the recovery image. Mine is bricked from day 1. PM me if you can help
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I Deleted my Recovery Image Can you Help Plz
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I have the i5 256Gb model. I love it as it's exactly what I was after, large screen running windows so I could easily run lightroom and photoshop. I've had ipads for years and it takes a bit of getting used to. The screen is a little large for general tablet use and of course its a full on PC so can get v.hot and the fan can get full on loud at times. I also gets a lot more respect and thought when getting thrown in a bag, and there are places I would use the ipad without thinking where I would be more worried about the surface getting damaged. I has almost won w8 over for me as well though it's still far from perfect
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Could you Please share the recovery image
samykabu said:
Could you Please share the recovery image
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I'm also hoping to get a copy of the restore image, as the surface I'm getting is from Japan. I would like to have access to the US version.
Maybe someone could make a magnet or torrent that could download.
I'd be very grateful.
I've got the Pro 3 EU image added to my FTP along with the recoveries for the RT, Surface 2, Pro, and Pro 2...
how
How is the pro 3?
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How is the pro 3?
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It is terrific....you definitely should get it. I have been using it for a while now and it is just fantastic.
The tablet is so light (for a full core i7 PC, 800 grams for tablet alone) and typing on the type cover is terrific as the keys are quite broad. The 3:2 form factor actually makes the tablet very usable compared to the longish 16:9 in many laptop and tablets. Kudos for Microsoft for daring to be different. The ability to do work in a Portrait orientation makes me so ultra productive as I can see my entire page all at once (very important to me). There are so many pluses in Portrait orientation, I can read an entire webpage at one go without having to zoom in. However, there is a caveat. When in portrait orientation, you have to unplug the type cover and essentially the type cover is useless when it is not plugged into the SP3. So you have to get an external (preferably bluetooth) keyboard for that. It sucks that it has only 1 USB port and despite what I have read online, the battery life was so-so for me....around 5 hours plus. Maybe its because I am using the core i7/512GB version. I would have gladly accepted another 100g of weight on the product in exchange for slightly longer battery life.
I think the sweet spot for this product in terms of price/performance/battery-life is really the core i5/256GB version. Occasionally it does get pretty hot at the back.....I am not sure if it is because of the core i7. Also, I used to own a Lenovo Yoga 2 pro...and although I like that laptop, however, 2 negatives for me...the yellow colors are more like mustard and there is no way to overcome it and Lenovo is pretty much ignoring the issue....and the standard SD card slot has 80% of the SD card sticking out of the slot. The screen and colors on the SP3 are very accurate and the 2K (2156x1440) resolution is sharp and bright. And Microsoft hid a micro-SD card slot behind the tablet hidden by the kick-stand and its terrific. However, the micro-SD card tends to go to sleep very often and the only way to wake it is to pull it out of the slot and push it back in. I have found no way to get the micro-SD card to stop going to sleep. The accuracy of the PEN when taking notes is very very good compared to many tablets that I have tried before and its smart integration to One Note (free) and One Note 2013 (free also I think) is fantastic.
So I've been using the SP3 for about a month and recently took it for travelling. At the hotel, i connected the SP3 to my Jambox speakers and it was great except that the music would turn off when the screen turns off. The only way to keep the music playing is to extend the sleep time on the SP3 which also means the screen is kept on. Not the most ideal case compared to using a notebook.
Is there a work around for this? Or maybe a setting i may have missed.
Sleep bug-----Hibernate Alternative
i had the surface 2 pro for 1 year and absolutely loved it, but i kept running into an issue that when it was in its sleep mode it somehow would wake itself up in its case and stay on running. Later for me to find a superheated surface with significant battery drain. The only fix i could find is to make it hybernate, it uses 8 gigs of harddrive space for the ram, but thats the only drawback, it starts about the same speed. So i recently bought the pro 3 for the sole purpose of the larger screen, that was my only complaint from my pro2. i then found out that the surface 3 seems to have the same issue as i had with the pro 2. But the pro 3 didnt have hibernation available when i searched for its, i asked the staff at my closest microsoft store and they said it looks like they phased it out. But after a ton of searching and digging i found a way to enable hibernate.
i tried enabling by cmd line like normal " powercfg -h on" didnt give me an error but nothing showed up.
Remember that you need enough hard drive space as hibernate takes your ram and dumps it to your harddrive. space used on hard drive=ram size
This replaces your sleep option with hibernate
1) hit start
2) search add or remove programs or Control Panel\Programs\Programs and Features
3) left side will have "Turn Windows features on or off"
4) select the main Hyper-V
5) hit ok
6) wait for it to find and install files
7) restart computer
9) should now show up under power button options
should you want to remove the hibernate and restore sleep option, simply go back in and uncheck the Hyper-V-you need to set your power button preferences again back to sleep
any help please leave a thanks
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So I've been using the SP3 for about a month and recently took it for travelling. At the hotel, i connected the SP3 to my Jambox speakers and it was great except that the music would turn off when the screen turns off. The only way to keep the music playing is to extend the sleep time on the SP3 which also means the screen is kept on. Not the most ideal case compared to using a notebook.
Is there a work around for this? Or maybe a setting i may have missed.
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sounds like its just going to sleep, if that's the case
extend the sleep time like you did but adjust the screen turn off to be shorter
1) Control Panel
2)All Control Panel Items
3)Power Options
4)Edit Plan Settings
Turning Hyper-V on or off as a way to control sleep-vs-hibernate is kind of silly; if you want to enable hibernate (and it's not already enabled) you can do that with a single line (in an Admin command prompt): "powercfg -H ON"
The behavior of the computer with regard to when it enters sleep and/or hibernate is controlled from the Power Options -> Edit Plan Settings, as you already gave steps to reach (though it's faster to just right-click the system tray battery icon and select "Power Options" than to go through the Control Panel).
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sounds like its just going to sleep, if that's the case
extend the sleep time like you did but adjust the screen turn off to be shorter
1) Control Panel
2)All Control Panel Items
3)Power Options
4)Edit Plan Settings
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Thanks for the reply. That's what i've been doing with all my other notebooks and computer but on the SP3, when i change the "Turn off display after" settings, it changes the sleep timing to match it.
Hence i'm guessing i'm missing a hidden step. Attached pix for better understanding.
Scann69 said:
Thanks for the reply. That's what i've been doing with all my other notebooks and computer but on the SP3, when i change the "Turn off display after" settings, it changes the sleep timing to match it.
Hence i'm guessing i'm missing a hidden step. Attached pix for better understanding.
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turns out i disabled sleep mode and replaced it with hibernate, it gives me turn display of after __ min not the sleep like yours
the sleep issue i keep running into is it wakes itself up in the case and stays on. ill try to revert back and look into it
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Turning Hyper-V on or off as a way to control sleep-vs-hibernate is kind of silly; if you want to enable hibernate (and it's not already enabled) you can do that with a single line (in an Admin command prompt): "powercfg -H ON"
The behavior of the computer with regard to when it enters sleep and/or hibernate is controlled from the Power Options -> Edit Plan Settings, as you already gave steps to reach (though it's faster to just right-click the system tray battery icon and select "Power Options" than to go through the Control Panel).
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did you even read the full post?
if you read my post i ran that command to begin with since it was the simplest solution, but it doesnt work.
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turns out i disabled sleep mode and replaced it with hibernate, it gives me turn display of after __ min not the sleep like yours
the sleep issue i keep running into is it wakes itself up in the case and stays on. ill try to revert back and look into it
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Thanks but i'll rather let it sleep cos waking up is much faster compared to hibernate IMO. Mine does not wake itself so i have no issues there. Just can't get the screen to turn off without letting the device sleep.
Hi trig0r,
I just got my self a Surface Pro 3 with 256gb i5 8GB and manage to install fresh windows 10 on it but I Can't get it to proper activate i will rather have it recover to default using the recovery image and then upgrade to windows 10..
Please help me with the recovery Image for SP3 pro US.
have any of you found a way to quick swap your display resolutions? I'm curious because I find myself switching from 1080 to 1440p and vice versa in different situations, like when my phone's on the charger and when my phone's not near a charger. Any ideas would be nice!
Also unrelated to the topic ( I don't want to make a new one)
My previous phone on Verizon (Galaxy Note 5) was able to send and receive MMS while connected to Wifi. Why is it that the Galaxy S8+ can't? and how do I set it up so that it can?
You can change the Performance Mode to High Performance, there's a quick-view setting in the notification drawer. That changes your display to QHD. Just switch back to Optimized when you want to go back to FHD (and you can change the optimized settings to go to 720 as well).