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what with this talk of dual core, quad core, it sounds bloody great on a spec sheet, but in reality do we really need a piece of kit that is powerful enough to squadron a fleet of f1 fighter jets automatically? "A piece of kit" of course being a smartphone.
Sure, there's use in it being able to play music, play video, take photos, and god-forbid be pretty decent at calls - something most smart phones seem to be forgetting lately - but what else? is it really of use to be able to connect to a tv to watch whatever via hdmi? is it really useful to be able to take stereoscopic photos? to be able to watch a blueray disc format at 60fps - when our eyes can detect no more than 30fps... then there's the apparent 11million colour limit of our eyes.
there's only so much you can do on a 4inch slab before usability issues kick in. and that inreality limits the max speed of a phone. anything else is superfluous.
sure geeks will buy the latest whatever smartphone simply because it's the latest one, but in reality it's no different to any other smartphone out there, just with a relatively small speed increase and higher price tag.
to me, it all sounds very much like flash websites. it all looks and sounds awesome, to someone who doesn't use it. but those annoying bleeps, animations and whatnot quickly add up to a useless website. is that the way smart phones are going? i'm sure 75% of users of smartphones these days don't use all the features.
yes technology can make super-small processors. but that doesn't mean it should immediately then shove it in a phone for no good reason. the age oif commercialism says otherwise though?
don't you agree?
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MarkusPO said:
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what with this talk of dual core, quad core, it sounds bloody great on a spec sheet, but in reality do we really need a piece of kit that is powerful enough to squadron a fleet of f1 fighter jets automatically? "A piece of kit" of course being a smartphone.
Sure, there's use in it being able to play music, play video, take photos, and god-forbid be pretty decent at calls - something most smart phones seem to be forgetting lately - but what else? is it really of use to be able to connect to a tv to watch whatever via hdmi? is it really useful to be able to take stereoscopic photos? to be able to watch a blueray disc format at 60fps - when our eyes can detect no more than 30fps... then there's the apparent 11million colour limit of our eyes.
there's only so much you can do on a 4inch slab before usability issues kick in. and that inreality limits the max speed of a phone. anything else is superfluous.
sure geeks will buy the latest whatever smartphone simply because it's the latest one, but in reality it's no different to any other smartphone out there, just with a relatively small speed increase and higher price tag.
to me, it all sounds very much like flash websites. it all looks and sounds awesome, to someone who doesn't use it. but those annoying bleeps, animations and whatnot quickly add up to a useless website. is that the way smart phones are going? i'm sure 75% of users of smartphones these days don't use all the features.
yes technology can make super-small processors. but that doesn't mean it should immediately then shove it in a phone for no good reason. the age oif commercialism says otherwise though?
don't you agree?
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Dude,the whole point of smartphones becoming more and more powerful is making us,the end users,able to use our full desktop's experience on the go.Maybe not everyone needs/uses all the functions of a modern smartphone,but it has to meet everyone's needs,right?What might be useless for you might be the most important for someone else.
So stop criticising,you won't achieve anything.We probably also don't need 50" TVs and 7.1 surround speekers,but we all love these things,right?
I in no way want to insult you or anyone else here,but just sayin'.
I use all the features of my desire from making calls, text, music, video, games, email, internet, downloading, photo's, alarm clock, watch, torch, the list goes on
It's like a Swiss army knife of technology
Well as you posted, there is no reason as to not have it. In having it we have no disadvantages, but there are possible advantages, so that's good. So if we can have more, why not?
ummmm have you watched anything science fiction like star trek tng? we want those tech... TODAY. that's the whole point.
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Well as you posted, there is no reason as to not have it. In having it we have no disadvantages, but there are possible advantages, so that's good. So if we can have more, why not?
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Exactly. If you don't see the reasoning behind it, don't bother upgrading to the latest and greatest thing. Technology in general is like this; personal computers powerful enough to run pretty much ant program out there.... laptops that are over 6 lbs and containing Max specs...
There is obviously a reason to do it, if you cant find one then don't get one.
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Ill be happy when I can do everything on my phone that I would do on a PC. Why else would I want a smart phone. Definitely not so I can tweet and FB. Thats allways been possible. I think we are a far way away from that. Also battery technology and power efficiency have a long way to go. I need more than 1day battery life
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It's really simple, OP. Carriers/Mfgrs still sell dumbphones for the general public who aren't ready to embrace that much power in the palm of their hand. Another REALLLYYY simple point, you're not forced to buy one.
Even if you don't want/need the latest and greatest, the constant improvements and advances in technology also serve to push prices further down and that benefits everyone.
i think when phones reach some capacity they won't be called phones anymore
dude, our phones will be able to teleport us to anywhere in the world ( standard rates apply of course ) just watch!
battery technology is holding them back i think, until there are some advances in that area i dont think we will see mind-blowingly powerful phones
I've felt that for a while but I'm not so sure now - advances in battery technology could be superseded by improvements (ie reductions) in CPU power usage/requirements.
With each new generation of CPUs/SoCs, the manufacturers not only increase processing capabilities but also improve efficiency, meaning that you can get processing grunt from less battery usage.
That could, potentially, render drastic improvements in battery technology less of a priority than they are/should be.
Of course, we'd all love something like a micro fuel-cell or a super-capacitor or whatever and have phones that last for a week of extremely heavy usage but most people would and probably will have to settle for their next iPhone/Android handset being more powerful and having the same battery life as their existing phone.
I'm waiting for the phones they implant in our heads
It is hard to argue that phones have not plateaued in terms of functionality. The iPhone 4S is simply an incremental upgrade to the iPhone 4. The next generation of Android phones are pushing pocket-able screen sizes to the limit. There is only so much you can do with a certain form factor, and this upcoming generation of phones is it. Applications run entirely smoothly, batteries are lasting entire days of moderate to heavy use, everything from a TV to a Vacuum Cleaner can interact with your phone through it's plethora of radios. And screens are so crisp that the human eye cannot even detect the pixels, perfect for watching full length, high definition movies on-the-go.
Two-year contracts sound like an eternity since the rapidly improving operating systems of Apple, Android, and Windows. However, there is an exponential decline of innovation between iterations of firmware. Donut to Eclair. HUGE. Eclair to Froyo. Big. Froyo to Gingerbread. Bug fixes and optimizations. Gingerbread to ICS. Superficial. What could possibly be next for a phone? Two years will surprisingly be too short for all but the nerdiest and niche interest groups. It's already been more than a year and a half with my Samsung Vibrant and other than tech-lust, there is no genuine reason for me to upgrade.
The next step for phones really isn't about phones at all. The next step is to systematically destroy every other gadget you currently own. The first to go? Laptops. The Atrix began this process, but it was for the most part a broken and overpriced experience. That will change as phones are becoming exponentially more powerful. One could argue that gaming laptops will still exist. Sure, for a couple more years. Kal-El, Wayne, Logan, Stark, Nvidia's superhero line-up of gpu/cpu chips. Stark being 100x more powerful than Tegra 2! One Hundred. These are theoretical, but the potential is staggering. Compounded with cloud-assisted browsing from Amazon Silk or Opera Mobile? Laptops are dead. Long Live Laptop Docks.
Next to go are dedicated tablets. Operating systems such as Android's Ice Cream Sandwich will unify the tablet and phone experience. ASUS wants to capitalize on this with their Padfone. Why buy a full price phone and tablet when you can buy just a phone and the tablet as an accessory for half the price? For myself, I would come home and plop my phone into the tablet. When I go out, I remove it. No more syncing. It's all consolidated. Not to mention when my tablet husk is home, it'll be charging all day. I won't even have to charge my phone or change my battery before I couch surf. Ah, laziness.
Last to go are game consoles. In fact, casual gaming is already on the horizon of being completely overrun by mobile devices. Portable gaming devices such as the Vita and 3DS are probably near the last of their kind. Nvidia's Stark will most certainly be able to support Full Stereoscopic HD output, if a processor before it cannot. This is my most speculative moment, but I can picture a future where your phone gets plugged into an HDMI/HDD Dock connected to your TV and you download most of the data for rented video games and stream the more volatile aspects such as sound effects, textures, and geometry. Discs will still exist due to their practicality, ownership, and offline use. Services like On-live will also become more prevalent as bandwidth costs decline. Okay, maybe consoles will be around for quite some time still, but their days are numbered.
In the meantime, phones will even make the phone part obsolete. Minute plans will be optional since not only is VoIP much cheaper, it's so much more clear and crisp. T-Mobile and Walmart are already headed down this direction. GPSs? Already dead. External webcams? Gone. Digital Cameras? Nope. External Hard drives? Cloud and SDXC will cover the masses.
Unless you are an IT or Content Creation professional, this next generation of phone will literally handle anything that you will ever need or want in a stand-alone phone device. For most of you, this is it. If you want a social networking, casual gaming, high quality photo-taking, VoIP/Webcam chatting, Global positioning, Netflix streaming, Hulu watching, cloud storing/syncing Super-phone, the wait is finally over. This is your year. This is not to say that phones will continue improving in performance and incremental updates, but there is literally NO more room for groundbreaking innovation within this particular form factor, only the hybridization and replacing of every other gadget that you own.
Oh, except for one feature I want. Built in noise-canceling support for headphones, like the Sony X-Series.
While this might be true, never forget that the platforms you use and love evolve. And that might get users to upgrade after all!
Take facebook for example. Right now, video calling is only available via Desktop operating systems. But I'm pretty sure that over the next few years this will come to mobile, meaning that your handset must be strong enough to handle it smoothly.
I don't think that even the average consumers will last with their 2011/12 handsets "forever".
This was a very good editorial.
I must say, that before every generation of new phones, people think "this is it, this will replace my pc/psp/etc...". While I do believe, that huge things are coming, I don't think this is THE generation yet.
We're getting more power, more apps, better screens, but we still lack (in my opinion) a solid OS that could replace Windows in every day use, and - perhaps more importantly - the average consumer lacks the mentality, that everything he wants done, can be done on his smartphone.
Also, to your list of killed devices, I would add "MP3 players"
good post and interesting read.
But isn't the next upgrade in generation of phones always been about replacing some other technology?
cameras, mp3 player, pda, operating system (android, ios) etc..
And all the while replacing these other things, the cell phone gets more efficient at it.
@smirny stuff like facebook specific video calling i would consider as incremental and non-essential. with upcoming generation, google talk is a viable option for video chat, plus there are many services such a Qik and Fring. I doubt (hope) that people aren't holding out on their phone purchase for facebook video. I couldn't imagine video chatting with an acquaintance from high school. All of your closest (video worthy) friends probably have another way of contacting you than facebook. I know that was just an example, but with quad-core devices on the horizon, video chat is covered.
@darktori i think that any OS that could replace Windows entirely would have to be on a different form factor than a phone. there will never be a way for a smartphone to do a better job creating a document than a laptop. that's where the hybridization comes in. my article discusses this is the end of the stand-alone smartphone road in terms of innovation. anything meant to replace windows in everyday use will break the phone form factor, whether it is tablet hybrids or laptop docks. those who want a smartphone, this is the year, because the only reason in the future to upgrade is to get this extra functionality. and yes, i did forget mp3 players
@dpmace yes it is. however, the phone has reached it's limit in its own form factor. everything from here on out will need a different form factor. to replace laptops, they need a dock, to replace game consoles, they need a controller built in (xperia play), to replace tablets, they need to become one. Phones themselves are maxxed out in terms what the can do as stand-alone devices. So this upcoming generation, the generation right before the mass hybridization of devices is the best time to buy a stand-alone smartphone for a long period of time. the upgrades afterwards will be superflous to those who don't need a laptop or tablet. their phones are already fast and capable of handling everything they need them to. they have an 8MP camera, why do they need a 16? they have a good phone GPS, why do they need a phone with a better one? they have a good GPU, why do they need a stronger one if they don't plan on outputting it to a TV? etc
Very nice and well thought out editorial piece. I'd have to disagree though, there's no way this is the best we're getting.
Regarding the iPhone 4S: Apple have always used incremental updates to get the most money possible from their users, and have mostly gotten away with it until now, because the earlier iPhones were missing really basic features. The iPhone 3G was big because it had 3G (what phone didn't even then?). The 3GS mostly upgraded the camera and I think the processor? The 4 was the only one that fundamentally changed anything in my honest opinion.
Software I'll mostly agree on, but I think ICS serves a great purpose of making android look better to the masses, standing out, and doing a much better job with multi-tasking.
Hardware is the big one. They still have a long way to go, in many ways.
Cameras are never likely to replace a dedicated camera, for the simple fact of space. A camera only gets so much space within the phone, and for every advance made in cameras that gets used on a phone, that same advance could be used on dedicated cameras, as well as extra ones that require more space.
Batteries are a big one, it's the reason you'll see so many posts on every phone's section of these forums, asking about battery life, and with kernels and mods aimed at giving extra battery life. It's why "battery extenders"can be downloaded so much in the market. If a phone came out next year, or the year after, where they concentrated their efforts on a great battery, and gave significantly more battery life, I'd definitely buy it.
I'll admit that the phones are reaching limits on what they've been concentrating on for now (screen size and processor/RAM) but they'll just expand in other ways. There's no way the phone manufacturers are just going to pump out similar phones and hope the customer prefers theirs to the one next to it on the shelf because of brand. There's still plenty of new ideas coming out every day, and they can add to the phone's functionality, not just superficially (like 3D). There's NFC, flexible screens (which on its own could bring about a lot of new ideas), added durability, and I'm sure a lot of things we haven't heard of.
Did you ever hear the quote that says "Technology has advanced more in the past thirty years than in the previous two thousand..."? That is 100% true and there is no sign of slowing down. Things that you can't imagine today can be possible within years. So I just can't agree to the fact that you are basically stating that besides a few tweaks and improvements, technology has come to a complete halt.
Excellent editorial. Love all your points except with gaming consoles becoming extinct. I find this to be untrue and impossible in the sense that phones, computers, Hard drives, or whatever, the concept of them storing your games, e.g. PS3 games which are at most 50gb (note gaming data size will grow too since it is proportional to graphics), is impractical. In the sense that you can only "hold so much", and our "so much" capacity isn't nearly close to our desire capacity. So gaming consoles will stay.
Unless you are suggesting we develop a different evolutionary storage medium or sort of micro usb which stores the game and the phone simply reads off the device and plays. Now that is plausible. The only problem there is will the phones withstand the heat exerted? As we all know in proportional to the graphic intensity of the game so will the amount of power demanded by the GPU or porcessor, which in turn will be expended as heat. So considering it will take a lot of power, it will give a "lot" of heat. Story short, our phones will not withstand the heat and melt.
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Excellent editorial. Love all your points except with gaming consoles becoming extinct. I find this to be untrue and impossible in the sense that phones, computers, Hard drives, or whatever, the concept of them storing your games, e.g. PS3 games which are at most 50gb (note gaming data size will grow too since it is proportional to graphics), is impractical. In the sense that you can only "hold so much", and our "so much" capacity isn't nearly close to our desire capacity. So gaming consoles will stay.
Unless you are suggesting we develop a different evolutionary storage medium or sort of micro usb which stores the game and the phone simply reads off the device and plays. Now that is plausible. The only problem there is will the phones withstand the heat exerted? As we all know in proportional to the graphic intensity of the game so will the amount of power demanded by the GPU or porcessor, which in turn will be expended as heat. So considering it will take a lot of power, it will give a "lot" of heat. Story short, our phones will not withstand the heat and melt.
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The future of gaming lies with Onlive. Your device will just be a thin client, awaiting video from the Onlive servers that will do the heavy lifting for you. I envision a gaming world where you use a bluetooth controller to play a game that's streamed to your TV in HD resolution via your smartphone.
We have the technology to do this already, it's just not the kind of gaming experience hardcore gamers will accept, but give the technology a couple more years to develop.
Oh right. Forgot about OnLive, prolly cuz i haven't heard about it since the release. But you are right it is a promising feature. the only problem is it requires a steady data connection, which sadly, we know not everyone is blessed with. But soon enough the entire world will modernize to have data being able to flow to every where so that won't be a problem, the problem will be in the case of system failure, both data provider and server, which I am sure happens a lot.
Have you not seen Iron Man 2? I want a phone that is just a sheet of glass and is fully integrate-able with everything around it on the fly. When that comes out, I think the innovation has ceased.
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If any of you guys play Shadowrun 4th edition, you'll know that the ultimate is a display in your glasses, goggles, contact lenses, or even cybernetic implants in your eyes.
Pocketability be gone!
vadyr56 said:
Have you not seen Iron Man 2? I want a phone that is just a sheet of glass and is fully integrate-able with everything around it on the fly. When that comes out, I think the innovation has ceased.
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or remember when he was designing the suit, everything was virtual and he could touch it.
One day we shall have that!! Then maybe screen sizes will be obsolete.
vadyr56 said:
Have you not seen Iron Man 2? I want a phone that is just a sheet of glass and is fully integrate-able with everything around it on the fly. When that comes out, I think the innovation has ceased.
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Un What about graphene tech? Samsungs going to be releasing foldable and bendable phones. The first one using this tech is apparently due next year.
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Un What about graphene tech? Samsungs going to be releasing foldable and bendable phones. The first one using this tech is apparently due next year.
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That would be cool too, how about a phone that can be used in a "normal" size mode (say around 4.5") and then can unfold into a 20" tablet!
Good first try. Not everyone willing to put down their thoughts in a form of long article.
However there are some fundamental flaw:
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The next step for phones really isn't about phones at all. The next step is to systematically destroy every other gadget you currently own. .
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I'm not sure you understand the word "systematically" and "destroy". I simply don't see phones "destroying" EVERY other gadget, especially the following few you mentioned.
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The first to go? Laptops.
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No, at least for a good decade. People been saying this to desktops when laptops became very popular. Now? Desktops are still being made and sold. Nowhere near "been destroyed".
And this paragraph gets ridiculous when you say cellphone SoC can replace dedicated GPU. You are saying essentially play Crysis (PC Game, 2008) on a cellphone, which is NEVER going to happen.
Once you understand how powerful a dedicated GPU is, you will realize how stupid it is to make such claim.
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Next to go are dedicated tablets.
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This is purely based on user habits. My cousins have both iphones and ipads. I have a G2x and a laptop. Unless you can make sure a 4 inch phone screen does not exhaust your eyes with extended use, then you can never make such claim.
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Last to go are game consoles.
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This is getting more ridiculous. Also mentioned above the "power of a dedicated GPU", cellphones are NEVER to replace game consoles.
I personally still prefer those gadgets you mentioned as separate gadgets and I am not a minority.
So let's calm down with the Android fanboyish hardware craze, and face the reality.
I don't think it's safe to say that phones have reached feature-completeness, although i agree that developers are going to have to start thinking in dimensions other than "what can we do without having to make any serious changes to the system".
When i look at the Android platform, especially, i see huge amounts of possibility. For example, your phone could basically obsolete a huge amount of what we encounter in our daily lives. Bus/train pass? Nope, NFC with a phone app. (These will still exist, of course, but for those with phones there won't be any interaction with them.) Credit cards, likewise, will be gone. Ultimately we'll be going to all-data, eliminating the phone/text/etc nonsense. Or at least, someone will. Probably not the US. That will become more useful in the long term, though.
But i think there's going to be more than just replacing other things with a more unified device.
For example, in the future your phone could ping your home PC and wake it up even if it was sleeping. Then you would be able to "log in" just like a normal user and get your full PC desktop on your phone. This isn't replacing your PC, it's using your phone as an additional way to access it--much like your mouse/keyboard/monitor! You could, for example, do an "OnLive" sort of thing but with your phone. This is actually already possible, but it's a pain to set up and we don't have phones that are strong enough/batteries that last long enough/data connections big enough to truly make it happen.
Or for another possibility, Google Goggles is something that already exists... but in the future it will operate in real time. Hold your phone up and you'll get all the information from Goggles overlaid on top of the image from the camera. You could take it a step further, too, and have a digital "message board" or comment system, where people can write things and attach them to real world objects which will then be displayed for others. (As someone suggested: really you want this sort of tech in your glasses, or something like that, but it will likely go through phones first.)
Heck, you could set that as your phone's wallpaper and not even have to open an app.
The "Tony Stark phone" could be a reality, although not at those precise dimensions. You could have a phone with no "UI" (although Stark's phone has a pretty interesting-looking UI on it if you examine it) but just have the Goggles-enhanced real world overlay on it. To interact with it you could issue voice commands--or touch it to bring up a UI.
Your phone could control your car in a tremendously "what the 1950s thought the future would look like" sort of way: get into the car, pull the phone out, then say "Car, take me to my house". Then sit back and relax, because the car will drive itself there. (Technically you don't even need the phone for that, but hey...)
This is all sort of crazy dreaming, but it's still not even "lateral thinking"--it's just extending things your phone can already do.
Hi Everyone,
First off, I apologize if something like this has been posted. I tried googling and these forums but didn’t find what I was looking for. Also think it changes now with ICS vs Mango. Can’t get this off my head (I’m a commitment-phobe), forcing a lot of productivity loss at work.
Please try to avoid extremely biased and/or unsubstantiated comments. I am just looking for information on the factors below. I know I need to decide for myself. Hoping for some information to help my decision before that.
My situation:
- Need a new phone within next month (using a friend’s as a loaner)
- Eligible for 2 year upgrade on Verizon
- Pretty basic needs: Texts, email, browsing & facebook/twitter, reading, actual phone calls...Guessing OS makes a lot more impact in this situation than hardware
- Reading about new tech, gadgets, hardware, and software makes me want the next best thing. But I also realize I am being done and don't need it. Although I am guilty of sometimes wishing I had "that cool [insert x]".
- Decisions at hand: (1) Android or Windows (2) New phone on contract or older phone (probably off craigslist)
My questions and priorities (ordered by highest priority first):*Note, my tech knowledge is ~par, probably sub-par. Also, I am fine with rooting/custom rooms.
1. Overall stability. Crashes, force closes, freezing...Can really get on my nerves. I’m impatient.
2. Battery life: As both OSes focus more on hardware optimization, this should improve general battery life, right? Also, since MSFT isn’t opting for dual core yet, has this pushed Windows Phones battery lives ahead of Android’s?
3. Organization/browser/keyboard: 99% of my phone use is emails, calendar, texts, browsing & social apps, reading. I do love the iPhone keyboard, but I’m not looking at iPhone 4/4S.
4. Screen…Limits my OEM options, which limits OS at the moment. Pocketable size, responsiveness, and reading ease (I do read books on my phone).
5. Would prefer an LTE phone so I can cancel my broadband at home.
6. Music: Ease of use with synching personal collection, functionality of media player on each OS. I listen to music for ~80% of the time I am awake. Cloud worries me a bit because my 3G signal in my cube is weak and sites like Pandora/Grooveshark/AOL Radio are blocked.
For newer phones, I would end up going with Motorola Droid Razr for Android for size and durability (I’m very clumsy). For Windows I would probably wait for a Nokia phone to come to Verizon (is that likely…?). How I like them after trying 'em hands-on when they come out could change my actual phone choice, though. Internals are meh for me as long as they can support updates for a little over a year and get the job done.
Okay, this post is ridiculously long.... I would sincerely appreciate any information, comparison, or pro/con breakdown addressing any above.
hands down. Android.
Very stable, very customizable.
Battery life is usually around 24+ hours on normal, call, text, web use.
If you dont like the stock keyboard or web browser, download a new one, if you dont like that one, download a new one. This goes for just about everything included in the android OS.
Android usually includes facebook, twitter and gmail.
Lately, most makers have been going for the, big screen, minimum buttons, look. Its really great IMO. They are also very bright, HD, and even 3d capable.
I would recommend an htc thunderbolt, or maybe a droid of some sort.
Hey.
For some time now, I wonder why nobody ever tried to make battery endurance phone flagship.
There are so many interesting ways to increase endurance!
1) Larger battery
I see how they need to watch the weight and size, but not everybody obviously needs 6mm thin phone. Well conducted 8-10mm phone would be great. Thinner phones even feel bad in my hand, and I often hand to add a cover to it, so it handles comfortably.
With 6" - 6,5" display, 6300-6800mAh is doable.
2) SAMOLED LCD
Okay, many, if not most companies use this. But often not these, which pursue battery life performance (chinese stuff).
3) Power saving underclocked, efficient SoCs.
Again, many use it, but I believe they don´t do their best with delivering to "battery hungry" users. That goes hand in hand with next step
4) SW optimalizations
They do something, but still, more could be done, by providing more choices for users. Deeper underclocking, longer GSM sleep times etc.
5) Additional power sources
Solar panels, motion charging. I don´t expect it to actually charge my phone, but if it can add an hour or two of ScreenOnTime on already long lasting device, or one day run time at iddle/screen off, why not? It all ads up!
All these optimalizations could easily result in four days of harder usage, and a week of normal usage, while the device still could be at around 9mm, 1mm give or take.
What Chinese manufacturers do is, that they throw raw hardware (If you´re lucky) at the problem, and that´s it. You end up with Oukitel K10 or Ulefone Power 5, which is ridiculous, but I´m inclining to that solution, if there is nothing better.
What Other manufacturers mostly do, is that they care 100% about size and weight, as if the market for "serious" device didn´t even exist. It does exist, but there is just nothing to buy. Don´t anybody from all those manufacturers see that? Am I missing something?
Discussion appreciated.