My goal is I want a controller which can completely take the place of the Nvidia Shield controller. I want to be able to play my shield into my TV sit on my couch and play like if I were holding the shield, including control the mouse with the right joystick.
Now I don't know if this is possible yet, I tried the Nyko playpad but I couldn't even get the darn thing to work at all.
I was hoping to get this ready in the next week to get ready for the console mode coming to the shield
Controller : Moga Pro.
Did you try that ?
And by the way other topics in the forum say Nyko works well with Shield.
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Controller : Moga Pro.
Did you try that ?
And by the way other topics in the forum say Nyko works well with Shield.
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Yea I heard good things about the playpad too which is why I got it but after being on tech support with Nyko and other forums noone seems to know what's going on (maybe just a defective unit?)
By the way the Moga, does it do what I'm looking for with basically being the shield controller away from the shield in all cases? Have you experienced any issues with it?
I decided to return this pad it's just a headache, anyone able to tell me if the Moga will work just like the shield controls even in the android menus with the mouse?
Edit: I should probably add I don't really want to root my device
HobsonA said:
I decided to return this pad it's just a headache, anyone able to tell me if the Moga will work just like the shield controls even in the android menus with the mouse?
Edit: I should probably add I don't really want to root my device
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Right now, only a wired XBox controller will work correctly, but that's being fixed "very soon". I can't be more specific than that.
***PERSONALLY***, I can't stand the Nyko controller. I'd pay the extra and get the OnLive controller, it has the best feel for all the controllers I've played with, personally.
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Right now, only a wired XBox controller will work correctly, but that's being fixed "very soon". I can't be more specific than that.
***PERSONALLY***, I can't stand the Nyko controller. I'd pay the extra and get the OnLive controller, it has the best feel for all the controllers I've played with, personally.
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Honestly at this point I'd be happy to buy anything as long as it works just like using the shield controls (Full control equal to that of shield in all apps and operating system, virtual mouse and streaming)
If the Onlive does that does that I'll buy it right now, unfortunately all my 360 controllers are the wireless ones
HobsonA said:
Honestly at this point I'd be happy to buy anything as long as it works just like using the shield controls (Full control equal to that of shield in all apps and operating system, virtual mouse and streaming)
If the Onlive does that does that I'll buy it right now, unfortunately all my 360 controllers are the wireless ones
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There is one feature none of the controllers will support, and that is the "SHIELD" button. But honestly, you can launch the Dashboard via the icon. The RSMouse (Virtual Mouse, right stick mouse, whatever) works with OnLive in the next OTA.
Tomorrow, I'll bring home my OnLive controller and triple-check it works with PC Streaming. I have not personally verified it, only the rest of the functionality since my responsibilities end with Android working correctly. You can actually blame me personally for issues with the RSMouse not working with external controllers, that was me.
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There is one feature none of the controllers will support, and that is the "SHIELD" button. But honestly, you can launch the Dashboard via the icon. The RSMouse (Virtual Mouse, right stick mouse, whatever) works with OnLive in the next OTA.
Tomorrow, I'll bring home my OnLive controller and triple-check it works with PC Streaming. I have not personally verified it, only the rest of the functionality since my responsibilities end with Android working correctly. You can actually blame me personally for issues with the RSMouse not working with external controllers, that was me.
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Ah didn't realize you were a Nvidia Dev. Thanks then I really appreciate it if you'd test that out since I'm strongly looking forward to this console mode which is why I'm preparing for it now. If you can let me know that all buttons work that'd be amazing.
It's not a loss for me not having the shield button since like you said I can just click it on my android device with the virtual mouse, but I'm concerned about how future updates (Such as android 4.3) will have on these controllers. I know Nyko seemed to have strong issues with the 4.2 jump and I want to make sure if I purchase a 50 dollar Onlive controller for my shield that I won't run into future issues within reason.
I'll deff take your advice on the onlive controller though since I was very happy with the shield look and feel (Minus the d-pad but my unit isn't as bad as others have reported thankfully) so I know you have good tastes lol
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Ah didn't realize you were a Nvidia Dev. Thanks then I really appreciate it if you'd test that out since I'm strongly looking forward to this console mode which is why I'm preparing for it now. If you can let me know that all buttons work that'd be amazing.
It's not a loss for me not having the shield button since like you said I can just click it on my android device with the virtual mouse, but I'm concerned about how future updates (Such as android 4.3) will have on these controllers. I know Nyko seemed to have strong issues with the 4.2 jump and I want to make sure if I purchase a 50 dollar Onlive controller for my shield that I won't run into future issues within reason.
I'll deff take your advice on the onlive controller though since I was very happy with the shield look and feel (Minus the d-pad but my unit isn't as bad as others have reported thankfully) so I know you have good tastes lol
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I can assure you that anything I test out tomorrow will work on 4.3 as well.
You don't even need the RSMouse to bring up the dashboard. The launcher is fully navigable with the controller. I had plenty of issues with the Nyko, especially with the analog sticks feeling "sloppy". Anyone I've asked to move the mouse at a slight diagonal with the Nyko has had trouble, but with the OnLive, it's smooth and effortless. I'll give you more details tomorrow night after I try it out at home.
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I can assure you that anything I test out tomorrow will work on 4.3 as well.
You don't even need the RSMouse to bring up the dashboard. The launcher is fully navigable with the controller. I had plenty of issues with the Nyko, especially with the analog sticks feeling "sloppy". Anyone I've asked to move the mouse at a slight diagonal with the Nyko has had trouble, but with the OnLive, it's smooth and effortless. I'll give you more details tomorrow night after I try it out at home.
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So just out of curiosity i hard wired my ps3 controller to my shield without rooting and it actually worked (thought root was required) but as people have stated the d-pad doesn't work in streaming. I thought the problem was only with wireless, is there any chance the D-pad might work in the future without rooting?
Edit: I borrowed my friends Moga it seems to work great except the triggers don't seem to be working in streaming (haven't had anything to test them in android yet)
Edit 2: It appears Retroarch won't recognize the Moga at all and I don't know why since it's on its autodetect list.... only the d-pad seems to work in retroarch and i see no way to customize controls
Edit 3: Wow another Edit I found when using the Moga with streaming it completely makes my stream lag and sometimes disconnect and usually its perfect... again still no shoulder buttons working
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So just out of curiosity i hard wired my ps3 controller to my shield without rooting and it actually worked (thought root was required) but as people have stated the d-pad doesn't work in streaming. I thought the problem was only with wireless, is there any chance the D-pad might work in the future without rooting?
Edit: I borrowed my friends Moga it seems to work great except the triggers don't seem to be working in streaming (haven't had anything to test them in android yet)
Edit 2: It appears Retroarch won't recognize the Moga at all and I don't know why since it's on its autodetect list.... only the d-pad seems to work in retroarch and i see no way to customize controls
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For the Moga, Pro, you need to make sure you're in HID mode. This is actually setting B, not A.
The OnLive worked great with streaming and everything else. I'm curious if I can make a custom ROM that actually makes use of the remaining buttons on the OnLive for media playback and the SHIELD button...
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For the Moga, Pro, you need to make sure you're in HID mode. This is actually setting B, not A.
The OnLive worked great with streaming and everything else. I'm curious if I can make a custom ROM that actually makes use of the remaining buttons on the OnLive for media playback and the SHIELD button...
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Yea I'm in mode B still no dice on the triggers, Mode A actually doesn't do anything at all for me.
I also updated my previous post i noticed that when I'm using the Moga while streaming it also causes major streaming lag and it starts dropping my connection...
So two mysterious why no triggers and why is it lagging with the moga
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Yea I'm in mode B still no dice on the triggers, Mode A actually doesn't do anything at all for me.
I also updated my previous post i noticed that when I'm using the Moga while streaming it also causes major streaming lag and it starts dropping my connection...
So two mysterious why no triggers and why is it lagging with the moga
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I couldn't tell you, but external controller support is weak right now. It will get better real soon... That's all I can say about it.
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I couldn't tell you, but external controller support is weak right now. It will get better real soon... That's all I can say about it.
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Well that's deff great news to hear I just worry about the controller usage and causing interference with streaming makes me worried there's some issue difficult to get around interference problems or maybe even something wrong with my shield guess I'll know more after the next update
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Well that's deff great news to hear I just worry about the controller usage and causing interference with streaming makes me worried there's some issue difficult to get around interference problems or maybe even something wrong with my shield guess I'll know more after the next update
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It *shouldn't* cause interference. The controller is bluetooth and streaming is wifi. I believe that is something that is actively tested now, and we obviously advertised it in regards to console mode. Is it the Moga PowerA Pro controller? That's one of the controllers I test with...
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It *shouldn't* cause interference. The controller is bluetooth and streaming is wifi. I believe that is something that is actively tested now, and we obviously advertised it in regards to console mode. Is it the Moga PowerA Pro controller? That's one of the controllers I test with...
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Hm so when I was testing it i was sitting at my desk with the controller very close to the shield, when i moved myself to the other side of the room and didn't have the controller next to the shield the lag significantly decreased and it seems to be repeatable. It's the Moga Pro http://www.ebgames.com/android/accessories/moga-pro-mobile-controller/108861
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It *shouldn't* cause interference. The controller is bluetooth and streaming is wifi. I believe that is something that is actively tested now, and we obviously advertised it in regards to console mode. Is it the Moga PowerA Pro controller? That's one of the controllers I test with...
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I'm about to break down and just buy the OnLive controller. I'm having difficulty with all the other controllers and there's always a draw back even after the update which did make things much better for me but still missing some things.
Could you do me a huge favor and get retroarch if you haven't already and confirm that it works no hassle, Triggers, Start and Select, and L3 and R3.
PS3 controller works great minus the select button which is the back button in retroarch but I really don't want to void my warranty and root to get that to work wirelessly.
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I'm about to break down and just buy the OnLive controller. I'm having difficulty with all the other controllers and there's always a draw back even after the update which did make things much better for me but still missing some things.
Could you do me a huge favor and get retroarch if you haven't already and confirm that it works no hassle, Triggers, Start and Select, and L3 and R3.
PS3 controller works great minus the select button which is the back button in retroarch but I really don't want to void my warranty and root to get that to work wirelessly.
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I'll give it a try... Although almost all controllers are reporting the select button as BACK, and not select.
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I'll give it a try... Although almost all controllers are reporting the select button as BACK, and not select.
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I think this is why...
This is from Vendor_054c_Product_0268.kl that lists "# Sony Playstation(R)3 Controller" close to the top.
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# Button "Select" maps to BACK.
key 0x120 BACK
here is the same key number from the kl for the xperial play
Code:
key 0x120 BUTTON_SELECT
I also do not have a PS3 controller to try anything.
chevyowner said:
I think this is why...
This is from Vendor_054c_Product_0268.kl that lists "# Sony Playstation(R)3 Controller" close to the top.
Code:
# Button "Select" maps to BACK.
key 0x120 BACK
here is the same key number from the kl for the xperial play
Code:
key 0x120 BUTTON_SELECT
I also do not have a PS3 controller to try anything.
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So what exactly are these files? and can i edit them to do the purpose I want without rooting?
Hey guys,
I have just bought a few Wetek Play Android TV boxes.
Apart from a few other issues that I will not get into here, I have one very major problem. I have two of these devices in my home and the air mouse that comes with it (the remote control) controls both boxes at the same time. so they are not independant.
this means if I have a box in the lounge and a box in the bedroom, both of their remote controls control both boxes at the same time making it completely useless.
I have asked Wetek support for help on this but only to get a reply that they are aware of the issue but cant do anything about it yet. so suggested using my phone or a mouse and keyboard..
Well this kind of defeats the purpose of what I got these boxes for.
I just wanted to get a little info on how these things work, you guys are super switched on when it comes to all things tech so I am hoping to find something out.
How do these remotes work? is it a hardware or software thing that connects them to each other?
I did install CM12 hoping that it would somehow fix the problem but it still exists.
is there anyway of making it so these remotes are independant of each other and linked to just one box?
Thanks in advance
Ryan
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Hey guys,
I have just bought a few Wetek Play Android TV boxes.
Apart from a few other issues that I will not get into here, I have one very major problem. I have two of these devices in my home and the air mouse that comes with it (the remote control) controls both boxes at the same time. so they are not independant.
this means if I have a box in the lounge and a box in the bedroom, both of their remote controls control both boxes at the same time making it completely useless.
I have asked Wetek support for help on this but only to get a reply that they are aware of the issue but cant do anything about it yet. so suggested using my phone or a mouse and keyboard..
Well this kind of defeats the purpose of what I got these boxes for.
I just wanted to get a little info on how these things work, you guys are super switched on when it comes to all things tech so I am hoping to find something out.
How do these remotes work? is it a hardware or software thing that connects them to each other?
I did install CM12 hoping that it would somehow fix the problem but it still exists.
is there anyway of making it so these remotes are independant of each other and linked to just one box?
Thanks in advance
Ryan
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there is a solution but first you need to unsync the remotes, if you acomplish that them you are good to go, and resync one for each box, i do not know is how do you unsync them, to resync is box on standby and back + ok button till green light flash. if you get them unsync them remove power cord from 1 box and sync one at a time, after first is synced remove power cord from that one and sync the other, always have one without power that way the remote will not sync to both
So I am posting this everywhere as I found very little information about how to do this and trouble shooting some issues. Made a reddit post and going to post it here (I hope this is a proper place to put this).
Just hold down the PS button and Share till the light starts to flash. Go to your Bluetooth and pair the game controller.
Trouble shooting suggestions are on bottom.
Now after about 30sec, and for some unknown reason, you will run into input lag. To fix this you will need to download an app called Bluetooth Auto Connect. Once installed goto Advanced Options - Connect Now. Once you push Connect Now the input lag should be gone.
If you are looking for a clamp I just bought something called Nyko Smart Clip - PlayStation 4 on Amazon for $10. TOTALLY WORTH IT!
Trouble Shooting:
I had an issue when pairing that it would see the device but wouldn't pair. What I had to do was turn off Bluetooth, turn it back on and try again.
Another issue I had was Bluetooth Auto Connect wasn't fixing the lag issue on my Samsung Note Pro (same device I had an issue pairing, my Samsung Note 4 didn't have any of these issues). I had to uninstall sixaxis controller then restart device. Then uninstall Bluetooth Auto Connect and restart device. Then connect DS4 controller. Then install Bluetooth Auto Connect and spammed Connect Now. It seemed to work. FYI my Note Pro is rooted but my Note 4 isn't and this works on both devices!
To repair the controller to your PS4 plug it in with your charging cable and push the PS button, it will pair immediately. I personally bought a 2nd controller so I wouldn't have to do that.
Hello, I tried this with my ps 4 controller and it says that the controller is paired but the light on the controller keeps flashing and it does not respond to any input and after some time it just turns off, the Bluetooth auto connect app just says that is unable to connect to wireless controller, please help, my device is a galaxy s7 edge.
Connecting the PS4 controller works for me but can't do anything else such as can't play games or anything, maybe a future update when everyone starts to cry a bit more about how the S7 Edge isn't compatible with any controller, I have tried 3rd party controllers and the right joystick and the rest of the buttons do not work, the only thing that works is the left joystick...
Before the 7.0 Nougat update on the S7 Edge (SM-G935P) the OTP (wired) connection would crash the phone; freezing the display, hard reboot. This happened on the OFW and rooted versions. Bluetooth would pair but you'd have to try multiple times and you'd need to delete the original pairing to repair (holding the pair buttons on the controller).
After the 7.0 Nougat update, controller support had been added- albeit horribly. The only connection is an OTP connection, Bluetooth still has errors. The button configurations are wrong though, the controller is useless. Square, X and circle are all wrong and triangle doesn't even register.
This is where I'm at, anyone know of any fix? I'm not looking forward to buying a Stratus XL (works perfectly but it's 60$)
I'm about to just switch from Samsung to Sony lol.
Unfortunately the guy that wrote this article is guilty of blatant douchbaggery (what good is a paired controller that cant be mapped and starts mapped completely out of whack). Yes you can 2 button pair a ds4 controller but a ds4 controller is encrypted and requires in linux and linux like os a driver called SCP (SONY CORP.SOMTHING......) That just isnt offered by any app ive seen on droid other than sixaxis. Alternately you could always hard wire it . The major flaw in this is the inability to stop the controller from charging in this case off your phone battery. As far as the mapping goes the only issue is android uses the generic abxy combo which is cross circle square triangle in ps4 speak . in retrospect .....i suppose i should have stopped reading when the author claimed no root. The controller keylayout files (.kl) are located in/system/user/keylayout. How are u supposed to do anything to those w/o root?
I have just put LineageOS (both 13 and 14) on the tablet and realized that both doesn't support the Shield Controller. Bluetooth was kinda flaky too so I couldnt connect a PS4 controller either. I am talking about the original Shield and Controller. Not the updated Battery tablet. But anyway I would still like to play my games with the tablet and a controller So I have looked for a 5.1.1 Rom with the hopes of Controller Support, but I have been unable to find any Lollipop Roms that the links are still valid to mess around with. So that is my question. What it the best ROM that will allow controller support (if any) of some kind and still protect me from the Tablet being deactivated.
Thanks for any help
Just a follow up to the original question. I couldn't connect the PS4 controller to the tablet by bluetooth. It showed up originally when I first turned on bluetooth but I could never connect. Now Bluetooth is going crazy and not finding anything. So I figured there were some Bluetooth bugs that still had to be worked out.
Hey there! i was at my local store looking for a controller and came across the Steelseries Stratus Duo, i got it and brought it home hoping that it would work nicely with my phone, the exact opposite was true, i was using Bluetooth
and it had horrible lag and often times disconnected i tried to fix the lag and connection drops, nothing worked.
And sense this has no way to update firmware (at-least at the moment) on the Bluetooth side, i am not able to use it in that mode.
I have tested this on multiple devices, some carrying the bt 5.0 chip some with bt 4.2 and some with bt 4.1
the controller says it is using a Bt 4.1 chip (that's what it says on the box)
all exhibit the same issue's as noted above. most if not all are supposed to be compatible, but all of them are glitchy. with this controller.
So i was understandably disappointed, not wanting to return the controller,i tried out something, if you have ever used steam link app for android and plugged in a USB controller? if so the application will ask you if you want to use it with your device? you can choose yes or no, i tried it and was really surprised that it worked as well as it did, absolutely no issues with lag nor random connection drops.
just REALLY SOLID PERFORMANCE.
So, that gave me an idea, what if i made a stand alone application that allows us to use the included USB receiver with android?
and add extra functionality on top of it. such as emulating other controllers for better app compatibility.
I was looking for a driver or something that can pull access from that receiver. something i can integrate into my project.
As far as i know the controller is just seen as a Xbox 360 controller so i was wondering if there is a Pre-made driver for integration with apps, that would save me a lot of time and would simplify the process quite a bit.
The app will be free and will be given to people on my discord and on host sites.
Here's a link to the discord server i created.
nevermind its not letting me post links (thats fine)
I created the discord server because other people are having this issue as well.
and that's where all the progress will be recorded. also if you have this controller and are experiencing issues you can join too!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.