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I just did my first ROM / unlock / TWRP /CROM install today and all went perfect thanks to all the guides here, but I have some questions now, more so about my TWRP flash....
I just updated twrp from 2.3.3 to the newest 2.4.4 following their guide using goo manager. I assume it was successful because I'm typing on her now' however.... My home screen now displays <Safe mode> on thebottom left.... Why is this? Also, after the flash, I lost my swiiftkey board app? Actually, seemed to have lost all my apps lol... What did I do wrong? (I didnt titanium backup before I updated, didn't know I needed too lol)
Do most use both nandroid backup AND titanium or just one?
Think that's all I have for now....
BTW, on Cleanrom in her 3.4.7 odex i think...
Edit, I still have all my app icons on my screen, but not in the main menu?
Proweedsmoker said:
I just did my first ROM / unlock / TWRP /CROM install today and all went perfect thanks to all the guides here, but I have some questions now, more so about my TWRP flash....
I just updated twrp from 2.3.3 to the newest 2.4.4 following their guide using goo manager. I assume it was successful because I'm typing on her now' however.... My home screen now displays <Safe mode> on thebottom left.... Why is this? Also, after the flash, I lost my swiiftkey board app? Actually, seemed to have lost all my apps lol... What did I do wrong? (I didnt titanium backup before I updated, didn't know I needed too lol)
Do most use both nandroid backup AND titanium or just one?
Think that's all I have for now....
BTW, on Cleanrom in her 3.4.7 odex i think...
Edit, I still have all my app icons on my screen, but not in the main menu?
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Have you try to power down, then power it backup?? If successful you should have all your apps back.
Edit: what firmware you were on before flashing CROMI??
Yes sir, soon as I did a quick 2nd reboot, she was back to normal. Thank you for the reply, I just get nervous with this being my first time time. Go figure, and finally give up waiting for 4.2, unlock and romantic up, and it drops the next day lol.
I was on 10.4.4.25 I think
Proweedsmoker said:
Yes sir soon as I did a quick 2nd reboot, she was back to normal. Thank you for the reply, I just get nervous with this being my first time time. Go figure, and finally give up waiting for 4.2, unlock and romantic up, and it drops the next day lol.
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Hahaha, indeed of your luck! but not to worry, sdbags is going to get the update 4.2 dlpkgfile sometime today and we should see our 4.2 cromi sooner than expected...in a few days...
Few more questions
Just had a few more questions that I thought of while playing with my NEW tablet, (I honestly stopped using my tablet for months after I got it because it was so laggy, and CROMI has changed all of that!!!!!!!) and figured I would bump this thread vrs start a new one... Sorry for the noob questions, but knowledge is power and Im trying to learn! ( I do read alot! )
Currently on TWRP 2.4.4, CROMI 3.4.7 Odex w/ the OC Kernel 1.8ghz
Now, I have noticed a huge increase in my system files from when I came from stock... IE Stock, I had around 55gigs or something free on internal memory, now, I have around 30, is this normal and what is using that much space? I currently appear to have 2x backups in TWRP menu..
I also have got the Titanium backup as suggested, and backup regularly... But what exactly is it backing up other then apps? Does it create the same backup files that TWRP does? I assume TWRP is backing up the critical O/S files??
How many backups in TWRP are needed and when can I delete (if ever) some? Im guessing here, that TWRP is needed only if you get stuck in bootloop or some other situation that prevents a full boot to home screen?
Should I try to find the backup files in TWRP and Titanium and copy them to my home PC for safe keeping? (I did follow the guides and also have them on clouds)
When preforming a "clean install" of an updated CROMI version, will those backup files on the internal storage be wiped, or are they protected from a wipe / "clean install"? Is a "dirty flash" un-advised? I plan to only use CROMI roms...
I also downloaded the ROM manager thing, as suggested by some.... but, do I really need that? It seems like its just a Titanium clone, with some extras... Also, the ROM manager has some things like boot animations and such, are those safe to use with CROMI? I was looking at some apps to clean up my storage from junk files, but I wonder, if those apps are compatible with CROMI?!?
Ok, thats all I have for now I think, and thank you for the help as always!!!!
OK. I will provide you the best advise as possible but there are variations depend on individual taste.
1. Internal memory growth - possible you backup to your internal instead of external sdcard. Look for large file like videos, rom/kernel in the /sdcard/ download folder. Do clear cache weekly. I just assumed that you download all the roms and backup to your internal.
2. Backing up
a) TWRP - this is called nandroid backup. It will back up your entire OS with all the apps and cache and setup...everything. Before you upgrade from one rom version to the next you should take a backup before do so. Or once in a while if you making a major change to your OS on the same version, you should do a second backup. This backup can restore you back exactly the way it was before you mess up. The disadvantage is you don't have a choice to pick and choose what you can restore. It's either all or none. For this you should keep one backup for the current OS, one for major modified to current OS, one for new OS and one for major modified to the new OS, so total about 4 max. Unless you flashing more than just cromi. This nandroid backup will bring you back your previous setup if you have boot loop.
b) Titaniumbackup - This only backup your system apps, user installed apps and all the settings belonged to the app. You can't use this to restore your OS.(like when you have bootloop). It used to restore applications only. To keep the backup from growing, you should set Max backup history to 5. It's only keep maximum of 5 recent backups.
3. Clean install will only wipe INTERNAL memory, not your external SDcard. So it's highly to keep your Titaniumbackup and TWRP backup on your External sdcard. For double protection make a backup of your sdcard to PC.
4. Personally, I stay away from Rom Manager. Only use bootanimantion, themes etc.. from the tf700 threads. Rom Manager is not tf700 specific so some features may work, some may even brick your device.
5. App to clean up junkfiles - you don't need such app. Most of the stuff you download will be in the /sdcard/download or in the download app folder, example if you use Sugar Sync app to download, the download file will be in /sdcard/mysugarsync folder. You need to keep track of what you put onto the devcie is the best way to manage your internal storage. For external sdcard, you should keep 1), rom, kernel or any necessary zip files to reinstall your OS. 2) all your TWRP and Titanium backup files 3) Anything that important to you.
Hope it all makes sense to you!
Internal memory growth - possible you backup to your internal instead of external sdcard. Look for large file like videos, rom/kernel in the /sdcard/ download folder. Do clear cache weekly. I just assumed that you download all the roms and backup to your internal.
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Yes, I was backing up to the internal memory! I have now backed up TWRP onto my microSD card! I was trying to change Titanium's backup path to the microsd, and I have 3 folders: /storage -Red, not writable -sdcard0 -sdcard1- I assume red is a system folder, sdcard0 is the internal storage, and sdcard1 is the mircoSD, however, when I try to select it, it says "this folder cannot be accessed"?? How do I fix this? I have never formatted my mircoSD or anything, just plugged it in when it came in the mail, and it worked.... Got about 50 gigs worth of movies, and my new TWRP backup on it now....
Do clear cache weekly.
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How do I do this?? Would it be in TWRP menu??
TWRP - this is called nandroid backup. It will back up your entire OS with all the apps and cache and setup...everything.
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Thanks for clearing that up! I thought nandroid backups were another type of backup, and the only thing I could find was an Online Nandroid backup app, so, of course I used that.... I guess I can get rid of that now!
you should set Max backup history to 5
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Ok great, max is 5, so if I just use a value of 1, Im golden then! (BTW, honestly, the only apps I care about are what keeps my tablet running butter smooth, so..... Maybe that will change now that I have a tablet I can actually use lol)
Clean install will only wipe INTERNAL memory, not your external SDcard. So it's highly to keep your Titaniumbackup and TWRP backup on your External sdcard. For double protection make a backup of your sdcard to PC.
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What are the chances of the mircoSD corrupting the files or becoming unreadable when I need to get those backups like TWRP / Titanium?? I assume the PC backup file push is the last resort if the above happened?
App to clean up junkfiles - you don't need such app. Most of the stuff you download will be in the /sdcard/download or in the download app folder
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Actually, that folder is empty.... However, I found how to make it explain what was in each "file catagory" so I understand what is where and how big!
For external sdcard, you should keep 1), rom, kernel or any necessary zip files to reinstall your OS.
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ALL of these files (rom,kernel, etc..,) would be found in the CROMI zip file I used on initial install? Would it be best to leave them zipped if so, or to create a folder and unzip and copy paste it in?
Many thanks!!
Last question, WTF is tunny browser??
Proweedsmoker said:
Yes, I was backing up to the internal memory! I have now backed up TWRP onto my microSD card! I was trying to change Titanium's backup path to the microsd, and I have 3 folders: /storage -Red, not writable -sdcard0 -sdcard1- I assume red is a system folder, sdcard0 is the internal storage, and sdcard1 is the mircoSD, however, when I try to select it, it says "this folder cannot be accessed"?? How do I fix this? I have never formatted my mircoSD or anything, just plugged it in when it came in the mail, and it worked.... Got about 50 gigs worth of movies, and my new TWRP backup on it now....
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**** Directory of your external sdcard should be /Removable/microSD.
How do I do this?? Would it be in TWRP menu??
*** You can download a free cache cleaner app from the market
Thanks for clearing that up! I thought nandroid backups were another type of backup, and the only thing I could find was an Online Nandroid backup app, so, of course I used that.... I guess I can get rid of that now!
*** When you do a TWRP backup. This is nandroid backup! so you already using it and didn't know about it lol!
Ok great, max is 5, so if I just use a value of 1, Im golden then! (BTW, honestly, the only apps I care about are what keeps my tablet running butter smooth, so..... Maybe that will change now that I have a tablet I can actually use lol)
*** Yep, 5 is max but anything less is better!
What are the chances of the mircoSD corrupting the files or becoming unreadable when I need to get those backups like TWRP / Titanium?? I assume the PC backup file push is the last resort if the above happened?
*** The chance is very small, but that's why I said a second backup of sdcard to your pc. It easy because it's all in one location (sdcard).
Actually, that folder is empty.... However, I found how to make it explain what was in each "file catagory" so I understand what is where and how big!
ALL of these files (rom,kernel, etc..,) would be found in the CROMI zip file I used on initial install? Would it be best to leave them zipped if so, or to create a folder and unzip and copy paste it in?
*** They should be zipped and move to sdcard.
Last question, WTF is tunny browser??
I believe its a cache directory for Dolphin Browser.
One last question for the night, lol...
As I mentioned, I have never formatted my mircoSD.... Just opened its package (64g Scandisk something or another), plugged it in and its been working just fine ever since, although Xfering files is abit slow :/
Its currently formatted in a "Generic hierarchical" file system..... Being that it will be a life line for my tabby, will TWRP / Titan / etc.., be OK with reading, booting, and w/e else may be required from this type of file system??
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Its currently formatted in a "Generic hierarchical" file system..... Being that it will be a life line for my tabby, will TWRP / Titan / etc.., be OK with reading, booting, and w/e else may be required from this type of file system??
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That's not the real filesystem that the card is formatted with, that's what Windows sees 'through' the connection with the tablet.
Hi, noob here, recently rooted my tab and tonight I decided to make a backup in rom manager. Everything went fine, backup made, saved to computer, went into rom manager and deleted the backup, problem is the space for this backup (1.2GB) still seems to be taking up space in internal storage leaving me with hardly any space left. Anyone had this issue before or got any tips on freeing up this space? Thanks.
edingal said:
Hi, noob here, recently rooted my tab and tonight I decided to make a backup in rom manager. Everything went fine, backup made, saved to computer, went into rom manager and deleted the backup, problem is the space for this backup (1.2GB) still seems to be taking up space in internal storage leaving me with hardly any space left. Anyone had this issue before or got any tips on freeing up this space? Thanks.
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It should be in a directory named clockworkmod/backups/date(where date is an actual date), if i remember correctly, but i haven't used it in awhile .
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edingal said:
Hi, noob here, recently rooted my tab and tonight I decided to make a backup in rom manager. Everything went fine, backup made, saved to computer, went into rom manager and deleted the backup, problem is the space for this backup (1.2GB) still seems to be taking up space in internal storage leaving me with hardly any space left. Anyone had this issue before or got any tips on freeing up this space? Thanks.
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need more information about device You are using and os.
Using galaxy tab p3110, running 4.2.2, cyanogen mod 10.1.
Tried checking the clockworkmod directory but there's nothing there.
In the end I just flashed a new rom and formatted internal memory so issue closed
Well, just to answer your question. Since you are running cyanogenmod 10.1 with its multi user function you have to access it in a different way.
Grab a file explorer and go to /data/media and then go to the clockworkmod folder and this delete the backup.
Thanks for the reply, will keep that in mind for the future
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Luigi2012SM64DS said:
Well, just to answer your question. Since you are running cyanogenmod 10.1 with its multi user function you have to access it in a different way.
Grab a file explorer and go to /data/media and then go to the clockworkmod folder and this delete the backup.
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Thanks buddy!:good::good:
Ok, here is the deal....
1 - bought a new VZ GS3 (did not install a micro SD card, onboard memory/storage only)
2 - ran "casual unlock/root"
3 - made a full backup of the stock ROM in TWRP
4 - installed CM 10.1.2
5 - made a full backup immediately of CM in TWRP
6 - installed all my apps and data and got everything set the way I wanted it
7 - made another complete backup of CM in TWRP
Now comes the tricky part....
When browsing with file manager on phone, or connected via USB w/debugging.... I find that /storage/emulated/0/TWRP AND /storage/emulated/legacy/TWRP.... both only show the backups I made of the Stock ROM in step 3 above. There is no sign of the CM backups I made later.
When I boot to recovery and choose restore in TWRP, the 2 CM backups I made (steps 5 & 7 above) are visible, but the Stock backup (step 3 above doesnt show.
So.... when the phone is booted and I browse, or I am connected via USB, I see stock backup, but cant see it in recovery. When I am in recovery, I see the Cm backups, but not the stock backup.
This has me bumfuzzled. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
SilverFox66 said:
Ok, here is the deal....
1 - bought a new VZ GS3 (did not install a micro SD card, onboard memory/storage only)
2 - ran "casual unlock/root"
3 - made a full backup of the stock ROM in TWRP
4 - installed CM 10.1.2
5 - made a full backup immediately of CM in TWRP
6 - installed all my apps and data and got everything set the way I wanted it
7 - made another complete backup of CM in TWRP
Now comes the tricky part....
When browsing with file manager on phone, or connected via USB w/debugging.... I find that /storage/emulated/0/TWRP AND /storage/emulated/legacy/TWRP.... both only show the backups I made of the Stock ROM in step 3 above. There is no sign of the CM backups I made later.
When I boot to recovery and choose restore in TWRP, the 2 CM backups I made (steps 5 & 7 above) are visible, but the Stock backup (step 3 above doesnt show.
So.... when the phone is booted and I browse, or I am connected via USB, I see stock backup, but cant see it in recovery. When I am in recovery, I see the Cm backups, but not the stock backup.
This has me bumfuzzled. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
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Your stock TW backup should be in data/media due to the way that multi-user is employed for 4.2 JB. Since multiuser adds a /0 to your internal storage, anything from TW roms will be moved or appear hidden in AOSP and in recovery. Use a file explorer to move that stock TW backup to the same path as your CM10.1 backups and you'll be set.
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Your stock TW backup should be in data/media due to the way that multi-user is employed for 4.2 JB. Since multiuser adds a /0 to your internal storage, anything from TW roms will be moved or appear hidden in AOSP and in recovery. Use a file explorer to move that stock TW backup to the same path as your CM10.1 backups and you'll be set.
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Thank you. Actually, it was the opposite.... my CM backups were in data/media/TWRP. So, I copied my stock backup to the data/media/TWRP folder, and it now shows up in TWRP. Problem is, I cant see the "data" folder (or subfolders) when connected to my pc. So, I have to copy the backups to the /storage/emulated/0/TWRP that I "can see" when connected to my pc, and then copy the backups to the pc from there. I like to keep copies of my backups on my pc just in case. But since I cant see the "data/media/TWRP" folder, I have to copy them elsewhere, then copy them to my pc.
I dont guess there is any way fo changing where TWRP looks for backups is there? That way I could have TWRP look in the /storage/emulated/0/TWRP folder that I can see with my pc, rather than the data/media/TWRP folder, that I cant see
Thanks again! At least I found the CM backups and copied them elsewhere so I could transfer them to my pc :good:
EDIT: Spoke too soon. By moving the stok backup to data/media/TWRP.... it does indeed now show in TWRP, and is available for restoration. BUT.... I have tried copying the CM backup to other areas of storage (so I can access them when connected to my pc) but they still do not show up
Edit 2: rebooted the phone and I can now see the CM backup that I moved. It just sucks having to copy it elsewhere, then copy it to my pc.... but at least I can do it. Will putting a SD card in the phone solve this issue?
You could use an app like Airdroid to transfer files wirelessly. You can view the entire file system and can copy files over. There isn't a way to reconfigure TWRP to point elsewhere to restore backups although there is a file browser in TWRP/Advanced that you could use to move folders around.
Having an sdcard does help. I only save TWRP backups to my external sdcard and have no issues on AOSP or TW. Just make sure the card is formatted to Fat32. Personally, I prefer to transfer files to my laptop with Airdroid to avoid using wires. I haven't noticed any issues being unable to view files.
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thanks for the tip on the sd card. I didnt think I had one and was going to pick up a 32GB. I found an 8GB I had, booted to TWRP, made a full backup on the ext card, then moved my other backups to the card.... worked like a charm. Deleted the copies all together on my phone to free up space. Now they are all on the card and easy to transfer to my pc.... so no matter what I have copies in 2 places ready to use if need be.
Much appreciated!
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Your stock TW backup should be in data/media due to the way that multi-user is employed for 4.2 JB. Since multiuser adds a /0 to your internal storage, anything from TW roms will be moved or appear hidden in AOSP and in recovery. Use a file explorer to move that stock TW backup to the same path as your CM10.1 backups and you'll be set.
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please tell me what shall i do when i have not any rom installed? (i had wipe system) and now i can not access to any file manager to move my back up files!
DSH said:
please tell me what shall i do when i have not any rom installed? (i had wipe system) and now i can not access to any file manager to move my back up files!
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You will need to use Odin on your computer and flash back to a stock rom
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I know this question has been answered in previous threads, but the solution doesn't work for my device...
I made a backup using CWM recovery in my Galaxy S5, but it is stored within the internal memory (don't remember if I placed it there myself or just agreed to it), which sucks because it takes 5 out of 16 GB of space and now I can't delete it...
I've tried connecting it to the PC but the folder is protected and I can't install CWM ROM manager to delete it either because my device is not supported yet. ROM manager asks me to install CWM Recovery, even though it is already installed, and there is no Galaxy S5 within the list of supported devices
What should I do? Do I have to wait till the S5 is supported by ROM manager in order to delete this backup?
Thank you
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Try deleting the folder using a file manager app such as ES file manager.
You can also delete backups directly with CWM.
If you can't perform any of the above you can always backup you're important data and format the internal storage.
Good luck!
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I know this question has been answered in previous threads, but the solution doesn't work for my device...
I made a backup using CWM recovery in my Galaxy S5, but it is stored within the internal memory (don't remember if I placed it there myself or just agreed to it), which sucks because it takes 5 out of 16 GB of space and now I can't delete it...
I've tried connecting it to the PC but the folder is protected and I can't install CWM ROM manager to delete it either because my device is not supported yet. ROM manager asks me to install CWM Recovery, even though it is already installed, and there is no Galaxy S5 within the list of supported devices
What should I do? Do I have to wait till the S5 is supported by ROM manager in order to delete this backup?
Thank you
PD. This is my first thread, so be gentle
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As mentioned by @ido100, you should use ES File Explorer. However, you're going to need Root Explorer turned on, as well as Show Hidden Files turned on. See my posts here and here for instructions on how to do that.
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Well, the file manager didn't work either... I turned Root Explorer on and show hidden files as well, but everytime I deleted the clockworkmod folder and refreshed it was there again... I got pretty sick and wiped my internal sd card, now I'm affraid that I didn't back up my Link to the Past progress
But the stupid 5GB folder is finally gone...
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jamesokbo said:
Well, the file manager didn't work either... I turned Root Explorer on and show hidden files as well, but everytime I deleted the clockworkmod folder and refreshed it was there again... I got pretty sick and wiped my internal sd card, now I'm affraid that I didn't back up my Link to the Past progress
But the stupid 5GB folder is finally gone...
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how did you ''wipe your internal storage''? i need help, i have the same problem as you! :crying:
I'm trying to transfer app data from my rooted Nexus 6 to my stock Galaxy S8+. The Nexus 6 is on Oreo, and the Galaxy is on Nougat. As far as I know, Helium is the only method for backing up application data without root access.
Unfortunately, out of the 24 apps that I'm trying to back up, only 11 apparently worked. And yet they would ONLY backup to internal storage. I repeatedly get an unspecified, generic error when trying to back them up to the cloud. So I was forced to use internal storage. I then transferred the carbon folder to my PC, and then copied it to my new phone, but the backups aren't recognized.
I tried rooting the Galaxy, which worked fine, but after a few hours, somehow it randomly rebooted and got stuck booting to upload mode every time no matter what I did. So I had to load download mode and restore it to stock. I was pissed, to say the least, as I had spent well over an hour restoring and setting it up. If I could, I'd just copy over my TB folder from the Nexus again, and go from there, but that's not a viable option. I'm leery of rooting it again.
And before anyone asks, yes, I checked the permissions, and they were already all enabled, storage access included. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the fact that the app hasn't been updated since October 2016. Though one reviewer mentions that it works on Oreo just fine. Any suggestions?
Anyone?
I have tried to transfer apps and data just like what you did with Helium. I found some phone changed backup files when they were been copied from internal storage to PC. The solution was to compress them to a RAR file, then extracted it after copying to PC or new phone, so it could be recognized and restored.
The problem is some apps are "disallowed" to be backup, only part of them can be.
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I have tried to transfer apps and data just like what you did with Helium. I found some phone changed backup files when they were been copied from internal storage to PC. The solution was to compress them to a RAR file, then extracted it after copying to PC or new phone, so it could be recognized and restored.
The problem is some apps are "disallowed" to be backup, only part of them can be.
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So you compressed them on the phone, copied them to the new one, and extracted them again? Then ran Helium?
Yes. Of course you can extract it on PC and then copy to the new phone, too.
And here are other key points:
1.The USB mode must be PTP, not MTP.
2.Helium can only restore data of apps, not including apps themselves, even though it says it can. To solve this problem, you can use another backup app to restore the apps to the new phone, then restore the backup files made by Helium.
ypsilonn said:
Yes. Of course you can extract it on PC and then copy to the new phone, too.
And here are other key points:
1.The USB mode must be PTP, not MTP.
2.Helium can only restore data of apps, not including apps themselves, even though it says it can. To solve this problem, you can use another backup app to restore the apps to the new phone, then restore the backup files made by Helium.
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OK, cool. I will try that out next time I have to wipe/restore my phone.