Root VZN S6 before activation? - Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all,
I just got 2 new S6 Edges on contract with VZN through BB. Before doing anything, I removed the SIM and fired them up to check the OS version. It shows 5.0.2 (AOE2). I see there is a VERY easy root for it (Ping Pong). They are now sitting in the box, ready for activation.
But I have some questions:
1) I read in a few places that the OTAs that replace 5.0.2 fixed some sort of bad bug / security issue, but it also prevents you from rooting it as well. Is that true?
2) What exactly was (were) the issue(s) and can I still root 5.0.2 AND then fix them outside of VZN OT (e.g., other downloads from Samsung directly)?
3) If I root at 5.0.2, is there a way to preserve it, then OTA up to a newer OS (did this on my S5)? Or am I stuck with 5.0.2 forever if I want to keep root?
4) If I root, can I still get Samsung Pay to work, or will that now fail?
5) I read Ping Pong does not trip Knox. Is that really true?
6) Lastly, if I root, is it still easy to unroot the S6 (remove a few files and reboot)?
Thanks for any help and suggestions. Just a FYI, I root to make minor tweaks, not to load custom ROMs.
Frank in Michigan

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[Completed] [Q] Tmobile Galaxy S5 root without triggering knox, warranty, lollipop questions

Going to cut it as short as I can, and I'll probably sound like a noob and annoying at the same time. Can I root my Galaxy S5 T-Mobile 4.4.2 G900TUVU1CNK2 without triggering knox? I don't want to touch anything (no rom or loader or anything) - I just want it to be rooted so I have some access.
If that can't be done, can I root and yet still send back to T-Mobile as a warranty replacement without them charging me?
If I were to root, can I still use the OTA upgrade from Lollipop once it comes out or does it have to be done a different way?
davkarimz said:
Going to cut it as short as I can, and I'll probably sound like a noob and annoying at the same time. Can I root my Galaxy S5 T-Mobile 4.4.2 G900TUVU1CNK2 without triggering knox? I don't want to touch anything (no rom or loader or anything) - I just want it to be rooted so I have some access.
If that can't be done, can I root and yet still send back to T-Mobile as a warranty replacement without them charging me?
If I were to root, can I still use the OTA upgrade from Lollipop once it comes out or does it have to be done a different way?
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Hello
You can post your questions in the T-Mobile Galaxy S5 Q&A subforum. Since it's your device subforum, users with more device specific knowledge will be able to answer your queries. \
Cheers,
Quasar.

[Q] Woo hoo! I got a new OC3! What to do first?

I just had the absolute BEST customer experience at a Costco wireless kiosk. Not only was the clerk very knowledgeable and helpful, but he was also completely sympathetic to the whole rooting situation and willing to help me however he could. On the down side, he was not the one pulling the phone from inventory and had no way to tell what software version I would get, but I asked the girl who did pull the box if she'd be willing to look for a barcode that ended in OC3 or OE1 and she was cool about it. Even though she couldn't figure out how to do it, she ended up pulling an OC3 for me anyway! And when I took it back to the kiosk for activation the dude was like "yeah I'll just skip the setup wizard and let you handle that on your own since you'll be rooting it." On top of that, their deal included a $150 costco gift card, waiving the tax paid for the retail price of the phone, a free 2 amp car charger with an extra usb port, and a windshield mount!
So on to my question, I'm sitting here with a virgin OC3 phone, what should I do first? I've been sifting through the info on here for a few weeks, but much of it is compiled in an "as it was happening" kind of fashion - meaning I'm not sure if all the info provided is relative to "what we know now," if that makes sense. I just want to make sure I get the best rooting experience possible - for instance I'm not sure if I should update to OE1 and then root, or if I can even do that, or if I should just root now and forget about it? If I root OC3 (or OE1) is there a patched 5.1.1 image available out there? Anything else I should know or watch out for?
There is currently no root for 5.1.1 and there is no guarantee that there ever will be. The exploit used by PingPong Root was patched and so another exploit has to be found.
I would say, if you value root more, you're stuck on 5.0.2 and to just root it now. If you want the 5.1.1 update more, update it and use it as if root will not be found, that way you won't be disappointed.
Yup sounds good! Is there anything that OE1 brings to the table that I should consider updating for before or after rooting?
And I guess what I was asking about 5.1.1 - I remember being able to update to a more current version through Odin on my S4 - even though the actual OTA for that version patched the root methods. There was a way to get that update without losing root. So there's nothing like that for the S6 yet?
denmalley said:
Yup sounds good! Is there anything that OE1 brings to the table that I should consider updating for before or after rooting?
And I guess what I was asking about 5.1.1 - I remember being able to update to a more current version through Odin on my S4 - even though the actual OTA for that version patched the root methods. There was a way to get that update without losing root. So there's nothing like that for the S6 yet?
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OE2 is as far as you can go. Go ahead and root OC3 and update to OE2 by flashing a OE2 stock rooted rom if you like.
Here are a couple stock rooted roms. Most of the others you need to be on OE2 already before you can flash them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/rom-stock-rooted-g920v-oc2-ota-t3125762
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3114525
Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know.

Galaxy S5 Root and Questions

I own a Samsung Galaxy S5 and I want to root to get full functionality from the device. I have read several root guides but they seem to be very old. Things like Towelroot I have read doesn't work anymore.
So if someone can give me a link or post and effective and up to date guide for rooting would be great.
I also have a few questions about rooting.
1. I have heard that some roots trip Samsung Knox so I need a root that wont do this
2. What does the Knox flag 0x1 actually do to the device other than void warrenty? I have heard it permanently disables Samsung services for the phone/tablet like Kies and adds warnings to the boot screen, but I don't know if this is true.
3. I want to get Android updates for security and such, will a small update cause unroot? (I will also upgrade to Android 6.0 if/when its available for the S5 and I know upgrade will unroot)
If there is a chance of tripping Knox I will not root. I also want to be able to return the phone back to exact stock software, settings and flags as before it was rooted if I choose to.
Phone info:
AT&T S5
Model: SAMSUNG-SM-G900A
Android version: 5.1.1
Baseband version: G900AUCU4COI5
Kernel version: 3.4.0-5869384
KNOX version
KONX 2.5
Standard SDK 4.5.0
Premium SDK 2.5.0
ect...
Don't root!!
I've got the same problem as you brother. I've got the same phone specs. I think we are out of luck right now. Attempting anything is probably a really bad idea.
But I second this call for help, I'm curious to know if there is anything that can be done.
@Woogoo as of now you can't root the AT&T S5 latest OS so don't try...

Questions About Rooting Note Pro 12.2

Is this the most recommended method to root my Verizon Note 12.2? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783950
Is this a permanent root? Will I be able to receive and install OTA updates from Verizon if I use this root and will the root be uninstalled as a result?
poetryrocksalot said:
Is this the most recommended method to root my Verizon Note 12.2? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783950
Is this a permanent root? Will I be able to receive and install OTA updates from Verizon if I use this root and will the root be uninstalled as a result?
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That's a good question . I'm looking to root without tripping Knox on my wifi version I just purchased off of ebay. I'm looking for an tar.md5 to start with.. Any help would be appreciated.
Same here. A White WiFi Note 12.2 64GB I bought off eBay, which according to Samsung's website, doesn't exist.
Hello,
Great tablet... I just got one off ebay myself and I see towelroot does not work- app not installed. I Allowed unknown sources in security. I am curious as to why you guys are concerned about tripping the knox since this I think this tablet would be out of warranty, unless you would not want to trip it for resale?
Any success on rooting so far? I am no too experienced but the first thing I'd like to do is get the apk from this enhanced s-note on all my other note tablets and phone.
oand QUOTE=LBJM;64430118]That's a good question . I'm looking to root without tripping Knox on my wifi version I just purchased off of ebay. I'm looking for an tar.md5 to start with.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
tjmethod said:
Hello,
Great tablet... I just got one off ebay myself and I see towelroot does not work- app not installed. I Allowed unknown sources in security. I am curious as to why you guys are concerned about tripping the knox since this I think this tablet would be out of warranty, unless you would not want to trip it for resale?
Any success on rooting so far? I am no too experienced but the first thing I'd like to do is get the apk from this enhanced s-note on all my other note tablets and phone.
oand QUOTE=LBJM;64430118]That's a good question . I'm looking to root without tripping Knox on my wifi version I just purchased off of ebay. I'm looking for an tar.md5 to start with.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I tried 2 different versions of Kingroot with no success.
Hi I used the cf auto root - check the 1st pic I attached. Once you plug in a windows pc it should download the samsung drivers then download that specific dl in the pic (I can't copynpaste on here)- it gives you the latest odin program download. It really easy from there. Once you reboot, supersu is there. I then dl'd root checker, titanium backup, busybox, root explorer and most important twrp manager from the play store. It was all too easy. I'm on 5.02 and I did check the knox and it started but stopped and said it couldn't be accessed at this time. I'm keeping the stock rom and just wiped dalvik and cache in recovery.
Rolldog said:
I tried 2 different versions of Kingroot with no success.
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poetryrocksalot said:
Is this the most recommended method to root my Verizon Note 12.2? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783950
Is this a permanent root? Will I be able to receive and install OTA updates from Verizon if I use this root and will the root be uninstalled as a result?
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The most effective way to root this tablet is with Cf-autoroot. It will trip the Knox counter but it will permanently enable SuperSU on your device.
If you root your device you will NOT be able to take OTAs. If you run rooted stock firmware it will alert you that an update is available but most likely it will fail to install. I tried updating my firmware while rooted via Kies and it failed each time.

[Completed] OTA Updates after Root

Hi Guys,
i have some questions concerning rooting. I have a stock Galaxy S7 (SM-G930F) with T-Mobile branding. I would like to install a Custom ROM because my battery life is so bad but i love this phone (for example because of its water resistance and the fact that my hobby is diving ).
So my plan is:
1. root my device and install a custom Nougat ROM (to change the screen resolution)
2. when the official update is out i want to go back to stock Firmware
3. now my question: Is it possible to receive OTA Updates after getting back to stock firmware?
I know know is set to 0x1 after a root and im going to lose my varranty but thats no problem, i would only like to receive OTA Updates after going back to stock firmware.
Thank you for your help!
Greetings from Munich and have a great new Year 2017
Hi!
As long as your device is stock, recovery included, you should receive the ota no problem. So flashing stock firmware and recovery should do the trick. :good:
Don't accept an ota if you do happen to get an update notification, if you are not completely stock. It will fail.
Last resort too, is flashing an updated version manually. If that's possible for your device.
Good luck!
I posted i thought but don't see it i rooted an LG ls675 with king root removed a couple preinstalled apps sprint zone and 2 amazon apps I mistakenly tried ota failed found out this unrooted my phone and tried another ota that failed also running stock installed a root browser titanium bu busy box ect do i need to remove these apps or will i have to do factory reset to get this update running 5.1.1

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