It has come to my attention through benchmarks that my CPU is not performing anywhere near where it should be. It also has a -1C reading on Core 2 (technically the third core) in Synapse that occasionally flickers a temperature that is MUCH lower than the rest of the chip (like if the rest of the chip says 70, it will say 40 and it idles at 27C while the other cores don't go below 33C).
My AnTuTu is 62k and my AnTuTu beta is only 76k. In the AnTuTu beta, even the One M9 is destroying my chip (I only beat it on RAM score, Multi-Core, and 3D) - the UX scores are all about 25% under the throttled Snapdragon 810 and in the beta, the Note 5 should score almost 84k. The only benchmark that my phone is beating it on is the 3D benchmark (14602 to 13929).
If my CPU IS damaged... How on earth would I even go about getting T-Mobile to understand what I'm talking about? I mean the phone performs admirably anyway but if this isn't the performance I should be getting, I don't want to have a defective phone...
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It has come to my attention through benchmarks that my CPU is not performing anywhere near where it should be. It also has a -1C reading on Core 2 (technically the third core) in Synapse that occasionally flickers a temperature that is MUCH lower than the rest of the chip (like if the rest of the chip says 70, it will say 40 and it idles at 27C while the other cores don't go below 33C).
My AnTuTu is 62k and my AnTuTu beta is only 76k. In the AnTuTu beta, even the One M9 is destroying my chip (I only beat it on RAM score, Multi-Core, and 3D) - the UX scores are all about 25% under the throttled Snapdragon 810 and in the beta, the Note 5 should score almost 84k. The only benchmark that my phone is beating it on is the 3D benchmark (14602 to 13929).
If my CPU IS damaged... How on earth would I even go about getting T-Mobile to understand what I'm talking about? I mean the phone performs admirably anyway but if this isn't the performance I should be getting, I don't want to have a defective phone...
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Is your phone working properly when doing phone things? Is it modified?
What software version are you on? Kernel?
We need all that.
By the way......scores don't really mean anything as It's a cellphone, not a gaming rig but understandable people want to test performance. Do you use your device mostly fire gaming? If so do you get any lagging dieing play now compared to before?
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I just got a note 5 from t-mobile today and my antutu benchmark is 41022. Under the Note 4. Im thinking I should take it back. And I did a system restore.
Gonna be fun explaining this at the store.
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Is there a benchmark test out there that can accurately judge a phone's performance vs another's? I continually see that people disregard quadrant, but i still want to be able to reliably test my phone's capabilities against someone else's.
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meh....all of it is almost completely useless.
ill tell you this. ive flashes every single rom on here, overclocked all the way up to 1800 and underclocked down to 700. ran every where in between for multiple days, ran every precievable benchmark test i could get my fingers on. getting scores as horrible as 1200, up to 3200 in quadrant. linpack from 20 to 60
and you know what? it has made absolutley ZERO impact on how the phone works with every day use.
when i realized this, was because i THOUGHT i had my phone set to 1800mhz, but didnt actually check the "apply on boot" box, and i was running at 1000mhz for two weeks thinking "wow this overclock makes my phone fast!"
yeah. the only time i see the difference is when performing tests.....oh and underclocking at 700 made the phone laggy, 1800 made it prone to lock up. but i can not tell a differnece in the actually function of the phone in day to day use between 800 and 1600 mhz if its on a good rom.
i get the fun of seeing the scores. but it really is completely useless. i was all about overclocking to see that high linpack and quad score....but now i run steadily underclocked, get crappy scores, and my phone functions flawlesly.
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Look up cf-bench in the market it is supposed to be the most accurate least biased benchmark out there. There is also a thread on it in the general android app section.
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I know that some will say that "real use" performance is what matters, however I am disappointed that my Nexus 5 gets substantially lower Antutu scores than all other Snapdragon 800 powered phones, which all seem to achieve scores above 30000.
My Nexus 5 has scored less than my HTC One which has Snapdragon 600.
I rooted my Nexus and ran Trickster mod to monitor the CPU load, CPU temp and CPU clock frequency.
I found that the standard kernel starts to throttle Snapdragon 800 SOC on Nexus 5 at 63°C, initially dropping to 1958 MHz (from 2265 MHz maximum) , then as temperature continued to rise up to maximum of 69°C it throttled further, 1728 MHz, and eventually dropping CPU to 1036 MHz.
Trickster mod doesn't display GPU clock rate on Nexus 5 standard kernel so I don't know if GPU is also throttling, however with such aggressive CPU throttling it does impact performance including video frame rates significantly.
What are your experience with this matter ?
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I know that some will say that "real use" performance is what matters, however I am disappointed that my Nexus 5 gets substantially lower Antutu scores than all other Snapdragon 800 powered phones, which all seem to achieve scores above 30000.
My Nexus 5 has scored less than my HTC One which has Snapdragon 600.
I rooted my Nexus and ran Trickster mod to monitor the CPU load, CPU temp and CPU clock frequency.
I found that the standard kernel starts to throttle Snapdragon 800 SOC on Nexus 5 at 63°C, initially dropping to 1958 MHz (from 2265 MHz maximum) , then as temperature continued to rise up to maximum of 69°C it throttled further, 1728 MHz, and eventually dropping CPU to 1036 MHz.
Trickster mod doesn't display GPU clock rate on Nexus 5 standard kernel so I don't know if GPU is also throttling, however with such aggressive CPU throttling it does impact performance including video frame rates significantly.
What are your experience with this matter ?
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Not got my N5 yet, but this is disappointing :-/
Just wait for the custom kernels to start rolling in.
that is no good News!
but we have to find out if that is in any way related to the quality of the cpu you got.
you know that cpu binning thingmim thinking of. maybe you gut very Bad luck and the worst Type of cpu that there is when it comes to snapdragon 800.
Feel free to check out my antutu benchmark section (after the power on test) of the video and the 3dmark section (at the end) to see what happens. 3dmark doesnt throttle it seems, but antutu definitely does.
You DO know that most manufacturers cheat on benchmarks, right?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
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Feel free to check out my antutu benchmark section (after the power on test) of the video and the 3dmark section (at the end) to see what happens. 3dmark doesnt throttle it seems, but antutu definitely does.
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Love the 'Maxed Out!" score on the 3D Mark Extreme test for the Nexus 5 ! xD
That's quite impressive, whatever the Antutu score may be
But, does the phone gets hot when performing benchmarks ? Is it the reason why it throttles on Antutu ? Or maybe just a software issue
The g2 got hot on the buttons at the back and the other phones all get warm to the touch but nothing that you would expect to create a thermal incident.
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The g2 got hot on the buttons at the back and the other phones all get warm to the touch but nothing that you would expect to create a thermal incident.
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Right ^^' No problem with a bit of heat, that's absolutly normal. But I'd like to be able to touch my phone while playing that's it x)
Waiting for my Nexus 5 32go/white with an ooooold Optimus 2x
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You DO know that most manufacturers cheat on benchmarks, right?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
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They do. But point here is not cheating but thermal throttle.
However, coming from a s4, you can raise the thermal limit when custom kernel comes out. I remember thernal throtttle on s4 was like 68 or 70.. Raised the thermal throttle to 100, no problem.
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Feel free to check out my antutu benchmark section (after the power on test) of the video and the 3dmark section (at the end) to see what happens. 3dmark doesnt throttle it seems, but antutu definitely does.
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Video blocked in my country. India. ?
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Video blocked in my country. India. ?
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Video blocked in Spain too
Blocked in England as well
paul_59 said:
I know that some will say that "real use" performance is what matters, however I am disappointed that my Nexus 5 gets substantially lower Antutu scores than all other Snapdragon 800 powered phones, which all seem to achieve scores above 30000.
My Nexus 5 has scored less than my HTC One which has Snapdragon 600.
I rooted my Nexus and ran Trickster mod to monitor the CPU load, CPU temp and CPU clock frequency.
I found that the standard kernel starts to throttle Snapdragon 800 SOC on Nexus 5 at 63°C, initially dropping to 1958 MHz (from 2265 MHz maximum) , then as temperature continued to rise up to maximum of 69°C it throttled further, 1728 MHz, and eventually dropping CPU to 1036 MHz.
Trickster mod doesn't display GPU clock rate on Nexus 5 standard kernel so I don't know if GPU is also throttling, however with such aggressive CPU throttling it does impact performance including video frame rates significantly.
What are your experience with this matter ?
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that's disappointing! how can a snapdragon 600/HTC one win over snapdragon 800/Nexus 5 and by such a margin? can anyone else comment on this?
Here's an article from arstechnica on the Higher perf SoC's thermal throttling, even my Nexus throttles on NFS:MW on OC, but the default thermal hotplugging can be overridden by new custom kernels which have better thermal logic that has better temp-perf ratio :good: !
On stock Bricked Kernel and DroidKang v6 and no throttling here.
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I've just tested my brand new Nexus 5 (no background apps running at all, fresh boot) and it gets on average just 22500-24500 (the scores vary quite wildly - no idea why - maybe I should put in the freezer?) AnTuTu 4 marks.
It's just around 22C in the room where I'm testing it.
Sigh
I hoped it would be as fast as other SD800 devices.
paul_59 said:
I know that some will say that "real use" performance is what matters, however I am disappointed that my Nexus 5 gets substantially lower Antutu scores than all other Snapdragon 800 powered phones, which all seem to achieve scores above 30000.
My Nexus 5 has scored less than my HTC One which has Snapdragon 600.
I rooted my Nexus and ran Trickster mod to monitor the CPU load, CPU temp and CPU clock frequency.
I found that the standard kernel starts to throttle Snapdragon 800 SOC on Nexus 5 at 63°C, initially dropping to 1958 MHz (from 2265 MHz maximum) , then as temperature continued to rise up to maximum of 69°C it throttled further, 1728 MHz, and eventually dropping CPU to 1036 MHz.
Trickster mod doesn't display GPU clock rate on Nexus 5 standard kernel so I don't know if GPU is also throttling, however with such aggressive CPU throttling it does impact performance including video frame rates significantly.
What are your experience with this matter ?
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The LG G2 and many other manufacturers cheat on Antutu your device should score much lower and I've many phones just look at my sig to find that out lol....if you want to get a good benchmark check out 3D Mark they are the best and will be ban brands that cheat on these benchmarks...there are only a handful of devices that beat the Nexus 5 in terms of power and they are running full x86 Intel chips with windows IE: Windows surface 2
My n5 is running Franco kernel, UV -75 and cpu under clocked to 1.7ghz. Running dalvik and the Qualcomm/bionic libs. Raised my thermal throttle to 90C from default 60. My GPU is set to 320mhz.
I still get 28,000!
Every phone except Nexus cheats in benchmarks. You also need to download Motorola optimized Dalvik to match OEM phones scores I believe. If you try hard enough you can match Note 3 or G2 scores.
But why would you care? They're not at all representative of real world scenarios except maybe GPU tests and even that could be argued.
I bought the phone today, but I think it's way slower than it should be. I know that the LG G Flex 2 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 with 2.0 GHz quad core and a 1.5 Ghz quad core (octa core) CPU, but after i have runned a couple of benchmark tests in Antutu, I got a score between 35000 to 40000! That's way slower than Samsung Galaxy S5's Snapdragon 801! I thought that it whould get a score over 50000 When I see info about my CPU in Antutu after bemchmark test, it stands that the first four cores has a frequency of 1.5 GHz, while the other four cores has a frequency of 0.9 GHz (two of them are "sleeping" a lot)! Is it possible to fix that? I hope so. I've got the 16GB version with 2GB of DDR4 RAM. The device is upgraded to 5.1.1 Lollipop. (Sorry for bad English, I'm from Norway)
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I bought the phone today, but I think it's way slower than it should be. I know that the LG G Flex 2 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 with 2.0 GHz quad core and a 1.5 Ghz quad core (octa core) CPU, but after i have runned a couple of benchmark tests in Antutu, I got a score between 35000 to 40000! That's way slower than Samsung Galaxy S5's Snapdragon 801! I thought that it whould get a score over 50000 When I see info about my CPU in Antutu after bemchmark test, it stands that the first four cores has a frequency of 1.5 GHz, while the other four cores has a frequency of 0.9 GHz (two of them are "sleeping" a lot)! Is it possible to fix that? I hope so. I've got the 16GB version with 2GB of DDR4 RAM. The device is upgraded to 5.1.1 Lollipop. (Sorry for bad English, I'm from Norway)
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i got mine at Tuesday. I can pretty much say i never experienced a lag before even tho i had many apps in the recent apps tab and also i was playing high quality games and it got a little bit hot but still it was working flawless, very very fast. What i did after i updated to 5.1.1 i did a factory reset, then i downloaded only the apps that are indeed from lg apps such as calculator downloads quickremote (because most of them are useless and slow down the phone) and then i downloaded a custom launcher and greenify. Also use the google keyboard from google play store. better to use google's apps rather than lg's. Since then i never experianced any lag before. try it out. If u need more help tell me
That is really low. Go into settings and into battery saver and check if you maybe turned it on, and also see if you checked option to optimize battery in games.
Try restarting the phone and run antutu again, after a couple of minutes..
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You are from a cold country so it should help. First try let rest the phone and launch antutu when it's at room temperature.
Then try with an ice pack on the back. It can be ice pack for injuries (kind of thick gel in plastic bag) or for cool box or ice chest, whatever you call it. But don't use it too long, you may have condensation inside the phone and it will trigger the humidity sticker (for your warranty).
Don't launch antutu after a reboot, as it's warm after a reboot. Or reboot and let it cool down first.
I am having an issue with my Galaxy S6. The videos I have seen online show that S6 achieves scores more than 5000 on multicore on Geek Bench. However not even once have I been able to achieve that. My Geek bench is 64bit edition.
Not that my device is slow or anything but just that I have never been able to achieve that score. I get an average of 4500.
Please help.
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I am having an issue with my Galaxy S6. The videos I have seen online show that S6 achieves scores more than 5000 on multicore on Geek Bench. However not even once have I been able to achieve that. My Geek bench is 64bit edition.
Not that my device is slow or anything but just that I have never been able to achieve that score. I get an average of 4500.
Please help.
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Please no. You should keep yourself from doing that. Your device works fine.
Benchmark scores doesnt really scale well on day to day usage I guarantee that.
The main issue with low score in benchmark is DEVICE Temperature. The more heat it gets the lower the score.
Let me clear this thing up to you
You said that your device is not slowing down but got low scores in benchmark, that's because your normal usage of device doesnt push your hardware to its limits therefore you dont feel like it is crawling.
Benchmarking is different. It generally juices up your phone to its full capacity but thermal throttling comes into play, it is a safe-fail feature on device to prevent chips from getting fried. Its doing it by lowering the CPU/GPU clockspeed, the lower the speed, the lower the score you get.
But if you're desperate enough, you may achieve this thru cooling it first, mine gets 5.3k+ on multiscore at 23-25 airconditioned room. 4.5k average on room temperature, and a much lower score of 3K when I run it multiple times.
Oh okay. This is nothing to worry about right? Coz I read in one of the xda forums that this is coz there are some faulty units out there. And I voided my warranty with Unikernel. It was worth it. RAM issues and all.
Keeping it in a AC room I achieved scores beyond 5k.
See why worry if your device doesnt fail you at all hehe.
I dont know about you guys who keeps on relying with benchmark scores?
Live up with your device people. Just settle down and enjoy using it.
Haha yeah. Honestly if it wasn't for Unikernel I'd be pretty disappointed with this device. All lag and stutters gone and finally smooth scrolling. OK totally off topic questions.. Apparently this kernel has something called LED Fade. And I don't know how to make it work. Any help? My notification LED is still the same.
Hey guys,
i just got my LG G Flex 2 here in germany for christmas and im very happy with it
But there is 1 but important (for me) problem.
It only uses 6 out of 8 cores and the max clock is ONLY 1.6 GHz...
in Antutu im even behind the LG G4 with that "SLOWER HEXACORE" ...
Can someone help me and tell me how to get rid of those 2 problems and get 2 GHz for the Big Cores?
Also, how to easily root my german H955 with Android 5.1.1 ?
Thanks for answers and help
Edit: I got "V15-c-EUR-XX"
Edit2: GPU runs 600 MHz max instead of 650 MHz ...what did they do with my phone
Edit3: I already checked temps, before you ask. 35-40°C max.... i dont think it should throttle at that low temperature.
Okay, now, on the next day it shows up to 1950 MHz for those 4 cores.
Seems to be a temperature problem at only 35 °C ...
Whats the easiest method for rooting the flex 2 (V15-c-EUR-XX) ?
I am not sure if for this phone is the same, but sometimes if u have low battery the kernel switch some core off.
Its normal,sometimes it underclocks the CPU and not always is phone running on 8 cores.... And what about GPU? Well,i have same distribution (DEU) and max is 600 MHz,but currently i have it on 305 MHz. Personally,i never saw higher clock of the GPU,and i own this device for almost month.
Edit: the GPU underclock may be caused by Energy saving mode. However,this has no impact on CPU,CPU-Z shows 1,96 GHz even in Energy saving mode. I had same problems too,CPU-Z showed 1,56 GHz maximum,after restart 1,96 GHz max.
Thanks for the responses. One last question. Why do i get only 60k in Antutu where others get 75k+ without fridge or such?
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Thanks for the responses. One last question. Why do i get only 60k in Antutu where others get 75k+ without fridge or such?
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Well. about an hour ago i ran Antutu test and got 68 000 points. However,it was much worse before (first antutu test had 48 000 points and i was shocked). There are many things that can influence the score. For example-power saving mode,current RAM status (how many apps you got in background),battery percentage and temperature. Maybe best time for test is cold start,when you jump right to Antutu after start (of course not right after,phone needs some time),because you have lowest temperature,highest free RAM and no background apps. If i did such test, i would score more points i think. And last thing-the performance drops significantly when you do many tests in in a row (i mean 1st test and then in about 10 secs other one)
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Well. about an hour ago i ran Antutu test and got 68 000 points. However,it was much worse before (first antutu test had 48 000 points and i was shocked). There are many things that can influence the score. For example-power saving mode,current RAM status (how many apps you got in background),battery percentage and temperature. Maybe best time for test is cold start,when you jump right to Antutu after start (of course not right after,phone needs some time),because you have lowest temperature,highest free RAM and no background apps. If i did such test, i would score more points i think. And last thing-the performance drops significantly when you do many tests in in a row (i mean 1st test and then in about 10 secs other one)
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Yeah my performance also seems to increase over time. Weird.
And yes this soc throttles easily. But it doesnt get as hot as my nexus 5 was sometimes with benchmarks and is still faster when throttled. Would not call this processor a fail at all.
Still hoping that the SD820 will be better in thermals though. But this chip is still more than what I need.
How is the battery life when it runs on lower clock speed?
Can someone please use the phone with underclocked cpu (1.6 or 1.8GHz) for some days and post the experience on battery, temperature and phone responsiveness? Thanks.
Battery life is not improved when the phone runs in 1.6 GHz mode. I usually get about 3 h screen on time. The phone heats up a lot under load. I never saw my phone using the full potential with this Snapdragon 810 CPU. It always runs at 1.6 GHz and that seems to be fixed by the ROM on mine.