I just received a new g tablet yesterday!
I charge my g tab until the light turn green without power on the g tab for 4 hours on my first charge. After the light have turned green, I turned on my g table immediately and continually charged for 11 hours more.
I have searched for these questions for many times, and each person has different answers and opinions how to charge Li-ion Polymer.
Someone said charge as often as possible
Someone siad Li-ion would not overcharge, but charging battery for long may reduce battery capacity.
My questions are:
1How often charge the g tablet after the 1st charge?
charge the g tablet as often as possible?
Or, only charge the g tablet when the battery low than 10%?
2Power on or turn off g tablet while charging?
3Does high temperature reduces the Li-ion Polymer battery capacity?
Does Li-ion Polymer battery reduce their capacity When the percent of battery is lower than 10%?
4Is it an necessary process to do a full discharge and recharge after the 1st charge? if yes, indicate period plz
yeabilo said:
I just received a new g tablet yesterday!
I charge my g tab until the light turn green without power on the g tab for 4 hours on my first charge. After the light have turned green, I turned on my g table immediately and continually charged for 11 hours more.
I have searched for these questions for many times, and each person has different answers and opinions how to charge Li-ion Polymer.
Someone said charge as often as possible
Someone siad Li-ion would not overcharge, but charging battery for long may reduce battery capacity.
My questions are:
1How often charge the g tablet after the 1st charge?
charge the g tablet as often as possible?
Or, only charge the g tablet when the battery low than 10%?
2Power on or turn off g tablet while charging?
3Does high temperature reduces the Li-ion Polymer battery capacity?
Does Li-ion Polymer battery reduce their capacity When the percent of battery is lower than 10%?
4Is it an necessary process to do a full discharge and recharge after the 1st charge? if yes, indicate period plz
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1. as often as you want. you do not need to discharge Li-ion batteries, like you did with Ni-Cad.
2. does not matter, except that it will take a bit longer to charge with the GTab on.
3. High temperature reduces rhe capacity of any battery. Should not be an issue with the temperatures a GTab will encounter
4. no
When you first get a device you want to full charge it to its full point. Maybe leave it on a little longer to make sure its fully charged. You can charge and discharge as much as you like....it doesn't matter. li-ion batteries get 300 cycles before it hits 80% capacity. Also if you leave a battery at full charge and do not use it for a whole year it'll loose about 20% capacity...so about the same even if you charged and discharged every day. Now if you plan on not using it for at least a month you should drain it to 40-60% capacity. It will loose far less capacity if you do this. Also if your storing a battery like that its good to recharge and do a full discharge once every 3-6months. This will make it loose like 5% instead of 20%. But realistically as long as you do not need to store it for more than a month just use it as you like. Also all li-ion batteries have PCM/PCB that keep it from over charging and over discharging so no need to worry. Now if you fully discharge a battery make sure you recharge it in 24 hours or so because you run the risk of it going below the threshold. Now if you leave it for 3 days it is what it is but you run more of a risk of damaging it. Also it is recommended to do a full discharge once every 50 or so cycles to recalibrate it. So once every 3-6 moths do a full discharge. Now if your one of the people who lug it in and out in and out of the charger than maybe once a month or every other month you should calibrate it.
I am getting strange battery voltage readings while the battery is fully charged . Ideally the peak voltage should not cross 4.2 volts for Li-ion batteries ,IMHO . Also I saw the Moto G review on Anandtech where the battery voltage is given as 3.8 V . But my battery reads a voltage of more than 4.3 volts . So I'm a bit worried about the long term reliability of this battery or my battery in particular . Has any one else checked this on their Moto G . You can see this info by using the secret dial code *#*#4636#*#* ( Lots of other interesting stuff under this menu )
I have a dual SIM variant of this phone .
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I am getting strange battery voltage readings while the battery is fully charged . Ideally the peak voltage should not cross 4.2 volts for Li-ion batteries ,IMHO . Also I saw the Moto G review on Anandtech where the battery voltage is given as 3.8 V . But my battery reads a voltage of more than 4.3 volts . So I'm a bit worried about the long term reliability of this battery or my battery in particular . Has any one else checked this on their Moto G . You can see this info by using the secret dial code *#*#4636#*#* ( Lots of other interesting stuff under this menu )
I have a dual SIM variant of this phone .
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I don't think it's an issue, mine peaks at 4.325 as it approaches full charge (it's above 4.2 from about 80% up when charging), it will then 'relax' to 4.194 once at 100% (even if still plugged). Other devices I own do similar. 3.8v is the nominal ideal voltage when the battery is least stressed (about 55% capacity) and perfect for long time battery storage.
If you wanted to be utterly anal about preserving your battery for eternity the strategy is never let it discharge below about 30% and never let it charge above around 70%. Lions will last for years and years and tens of thousands of charge cycles in those circumstances with no loss in capacity.
neu - smurph said:
I don't think it's an issue, mine peaks at 4.325 as it approaches full charge (it's above 4.2 from about 80% up when charging), it will then 'relax' to 4.194 once at 100% (even if still plugged). Other devices I own do similar. 3.8v is the nominal ideal voltage when the battery is least stressed (about 55% capacity) and perfect for long time battery storage.
If you wanted to be utterly anal about preserving your battery for eternity the strategy is never let it discharge below about 30% and never let it charge above around 70%. Lions will last for years and years and tens of thousands of charge cycles in those circumstances with no loss in capacity.
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I own another droid device and the removable battery is rated 4.2 V 1500 mah. During charging it peaks to slightly under 4.2 V and reaches about 3.8 V at about 50 % .So it is safely under the 4.2 voltage limit. . Also many articles on battery university talk about 4.2 V being the peak . Hence the query
Is this the same observed by other Moto G owners ?
Mines also 4.3V at or near fully charged.
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Maybe Its the moto g's secret of extra long battery life.....dangerously overcharging enabled by default (Also called bump charging)
Bump charging is known to destroy battery life
And since battery is internal...more profits for moto when people come to get them replaced WIN WIN!!
Hey I guess some users have had this phone for a week . Can some onecheck and post the peak battery voltage ? Mine has reduced from 4.33 to about 4.25 .Also looks like the battery life has reduced a bit
Also how does one reset the battery calibration . Is it by keeping the power button pressed and letting reboot twice?
Sorry for 3 months old bump, but I've got a response from Motorola and saw this thread.
X: Hi, my name is X. How may I help you?
(unknown): Hello, my name is [Me]. I want to ask you a question about Moto G.
X: Hello, [Me]. I will be more than happy to assist you on this.
(unknown): I used CPU-Z to look at a few details about Moto G's hardware and noticed that the battery voltage is 4.3V when fully charged. Is this normal?
(unknown): I've read on the internet that Li-Ion batteries shouldn't exceed 4.2v
X: Let me check on my resources. Please hold on.
(unknown): Thank you.
X: No problem. Do you already have our Moto G or you're planning to buy one?
(unknown): I already have one, just checked the voltage with an app (the default android hardware info menu has the same values so it's correct) and I was wondering if it's a bad thing.
(unknown): Is Moto G's battery of higher quality?
X: Okay and yes, it is.
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I said something about higher quality because I read this: learn.adafruit.com/li-ion-and-lipoly-batteries/voltages
"Nowadays you may also be able to purchase 4.35V cells! These are the latest chemistry, they have a little more power as indicated by the voltage being higher than 4.2V. They tend to be cylinder lithium ion's used for laptop batteries, and lights so its not terribly likely you'll just run into one unless you're looking for it."
So does this mean we shouldn't worry about it?
Hi,
So I recently bought the Moto G, so far I am liking... Just a question about battery life. I'm wondering if I am getting normal battery life, or is my phone defective.
I got over 5h of on screen time and over 7h of battery life from a full charge. Also the screen seems to be eating up most of the battery even though I have it on auto brightness and most of the time it is very low brightness.
Maybe this is normal, but i have heard people getting over 2 days of battery life out of this thing!
Thanks..
One more thing, when I first got the phone I began charging it with this random charger I bought, and when I plugged the phone in it immediately shut down, but it was still charging, however I didnt let it charge and got a different charger because I was scared to damage the phone. The charger I was using had 5.2V on it but the charger I'm using now has 5V on it and it is charging fine without apparent hiccups.
(I did not try out the battery performance on jellybean as I updated to KitKat as soon as I bought the phone)
Hello, I use a Moto G XT1032 with android 4.4.4. When battery level is 30-40%, I observe a sudden drop of charge by 5% or so for no reason. I use a Motorola wall charger for charging the phone and charge it fully to 100%. This problem also occurred with Android 4.4.2. Please suggest.
This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
I've read this assertion elsewhere too - that any quick charged phone depletes battery faster. Actually I charged my battery with my old slow charger last night to see if I'd lose less today. Subjectively (because my usage isn't really consistent), it seems like maybe the phone is discharging more slowly...
Could be a possibility but i have my lg g3 that i used for a year.. Co pairing my faily usage i get about the same hours of ost.
I think hers may be going down faster maybe because of the background apps or the ost shes using? U cant say ur using the same apps unless u tried them both for ur self..
I know this is the case. I have a Tablet and Phone when I charge them with slightly higher power chargers they deplete at a much faster rate. And when I charge with the slower charger they hold a charge much longer.
(Although bare in mind I'm talking about non Quick Charging devices so maybe that plays a huge part lol but I dont use Quick Chargers on them just slightly faster chargers when I have no choice.)
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For those of you that have noticed faster battery loss after using the quick charge have you tried the non quick charger for a night charge than at a random time used the car quick charge charger? Does the time differ at all than?
I think this needs more testing. I need to do the test on my phone alone on 2 consecutive working days.
I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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jmtjr278 said:
I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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A lot of people report the device gets hot when turbo charging. By the nature of the forcing of charge and the small footprint, how could it not get somewhat hot? I do not use fast charging on my Pure due to this.
devsk said:
This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
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Charging fast is bad for the battery, so it only makes sense for her not to last as long.
My wife wears down faster when I quick charge her. I only do it when I need her for short bursts.
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As I understand turbo change. The phone only utilizes turbo charge for the 0-85 or so, then the phone uses standard charging to top the battery off. I have also not noticed any heat while charging using the OEM charger provided out of the box. Believe what you will. I just don't care how you charge your battery.
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Why would the phone discharge faster after a quick charge? Isn't one hundred percent one hundred percent? I'm not flaming, I'm actually curious if there's a difference.
Idk who came up with this, your battery does not drain faster when its charged faster, its not logical.. All turbo charge or any type of quick charge does is supplies more a more faster charging rate based on the volts and amps it puts out. This should not effect your batteries life in anyway.
I can understand the thinking behind this but there is absolutely no way you can test this correctly because you aren't doing the EXACT same usage every day. Something will always differ.
Was this ever an issue with previous Moto X's?
After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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joshw0000 said:
After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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You are making an interesting point here. Anyone else can confirm?
I'm going to do a test myself. Before that I want to add that I've noticed when charging with turbocharger(I've used only the OEM's) the charged capacity tends to go a little over the 3000mha, it becomes something like ~3300mha and after plugging out it still stays like that until 90% where it stats under 3000mha charged.
I charge every night with slow charge. I am at 95% after 1 hour and 45 minutes unplugged. Checked some news a few texts and 2 phone calls. Seems normal to me.
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Battery drain is pretty evident. I am on MM Indian ROM and below are the findings.
1. Used turbo charger to top it up at 100%. Dis-connected the charger. WIFI is enabled and network is 2G (data off). All background app sync is disabled, and the only major applications running in background are firefox and whatsapp.
With medium brightness and browsing, the battery will drop to 97-98% within 5-8 minutes.
2. 100% turbo-charged at night. WIFI enabled/2G network (Data off). Woke up in the morning after 6 hours and battery is good at 98%
WIFI off and network moved to 4G/data and after browsing for 10 minutes, the battery falls to 85%
3. Instead of turbo charger, used Xaiomi MI pad charger (non-turbo) and my experience with #1 and #2 are pretty much the same.