Can I get my device to auto-connect to WiFi without internet? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone,
I own a Nexus 5 and I am running stock firmware, Android 6.0 MRA58K, unrooted and bootloader locked. I use this device at work and frequently connect to a WiFi LAN that has no internet connection (by design -- I use it to talk to other devices on the network). In older software versions (I believe back in the KitKat days if I recall), I could simply turn on the WiFi slider on my phone, and it would automatically connect to the network, and I could immediately start talking to the devices I need to (this was excellent!). Then when Lollipop first rolled around, it would still connect to the network automatically, but it would realize that there's no internet connection, so it would then prioritize the Cellular Data network, preventing me from communicating with my network devices. So I had to do an extra step by disabling my data connection, then things would work properly again. (Of course, this also meant that when I wanted to jump off the Wi-Fi, I would need to re-enable Cellular Data.)
Nowadays, Android seems to remember that my WiFi network doesn't have an internet connection, so it never joins it by default (very frustrating!). So every time I want to jump on the network, I need to turn on WiFi, then manually select the network to join, then go into the Data section and disable cellular Data, and then things would be working fine. Of course, if I ever walked away from the Wi-Fi range and then came back, I would again need to manually select the network.
And now with this lastest Marshmallow update, a new Notification pops up every time I join the Network that says:
"Wi-Fi has no Internet Access. Touch for options." When touched it says, "This network has no Internet access. Stay connected? Yes/No" There's also a checkbox that says, "Don't ask again for this network". Every time I check that box, and say YES to stay connected. And yet each and every time I connect to the network, this notification appears again! (The checkbox seems to do nothing). I've looked at the Advanced options in the Wi-Fi settings, and nothing there seems to help.
So my question is, is there a way for me to go back to the "good 'ole days", where I can get my phone to automatically join this WiFi network, and still prioritize it over cellular data?
If need be, I'm perfectly fine with rooting/unlocking my phone, if I need to install some custom firmware or whatever.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have!
-Tom

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Bought a brand new unlocked Moto Defy and I'm having some WiFi and data connection issues...
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Marshmallow WiFi "no Internet" fix

So this is a general Marshmallow question. I just upgraded from 5.1 to 6 and I'm loving it so far, but I've found a slight quirk with the WiFi management that's pretty irksome and I'm hoping someone can provide some guidance.
My work utilizes a WiFi network with a WPA2 key, but then once you connect you have to log in with different credentials to a portal before you can actually connect with anything (similar to many public hotspots but with the WPA2 on top).
In Kit-Kat and Lollipop, the phone would recognize that an additional login was required, and notify me as such. Sometimes after logging in through Chrome it would automatically detect the change and the WiFi would show it was fully connected, and sometimes I would have to tap the notification then choose "use this network as-is" to make the "!" go away.
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Anyone know how to get it working again like it used to in Lollipop?
drumz0rz said:
So this is a general Marshmallow question. I just upgraded from 5.1 to 6 and I'm loving it so far, but I've found a slight quirk with the WiFi management that's pretty irksome and I'm hoping someone can provide some guidance.
My work utilizes a WiFi network with a WPA2 key, but then once you connect you have to log in with different credentials to a portal before you can actually connect with anything (similar to many public hotspots but with the WPA2 on top).
In Kit-Kat and Lollipop, the phone would recognize that an additional login was required, and notify me as such. Sometimes after logging in through Chrome it would automatically detect the change and the WiFi would show it was fully connected, and sometimes I would have to tap the notification then choose "use this network as-is" to make the "!" go away.
In Marshmallow, the phone is detecting that is connected but says "no internet" even after I log in (and the internet is working fine). It gives me a different notification from Lollipop, this time saying "Wi-Fi has no Internet Access (touch for options". Now, instead of allowing me to "use this network as is" the only option I'm presented is "This network has no Internet access. Stay connected?" When I say "yes" I can fully use the network, but the "!" never goes away and the phone never thinks it's actually connected.
It's particularly aggravating because when I get in range of the SSID, instead of automatically connecting, as it did in Lollipop, instead it says "No Internet Access Detected, won't automatically reconnect". Which means that every time I want to connect, I have to go into the Wi-Fi settings and manually tap "Connect" and then go through the whole dance above again.
Anyone know how to get it working again like it used to in Lollipop?
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I'm 100% stock, and when additional login information is needed I get the automatic pop-up.

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Android 13 software stay connected to internet despite wifi and data off

Hello,
I'm a newbie here so I hope I'm not doing mistakes, writting in wring place, etc. And English is not my native language...
My phone recently update from android 12 to android 13.
I noticed something a bit weird later. Here are the steps:
1- I start a software using internet (firefox, etc) . I go on some websites.
2- I set the network off (wifi off, 4G/3G/etc off) using the network screen
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In fact, as long as I do not restart the software, it stay connected to internet.
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CassanRoz said:
Hello,
I'm a newbie here so I hope I'm not doing mistakes, writting in wring place, etc. And English is not my native language...
My phone recently update from android 12 to android 13.
I noticed something a bit weird later. Here are the steps:
1- I start a software using internet (firefox, etc) . I go on some websites.
2- I set the network off (wifi off, 4G/3G/etc off) using the network screen
3- but the software can keep surfing on internet !
In fact, as long as I do not restart the software, it stay connected to internet.
I first noticed this while hearing radio on internet using VLC. Despite having put the wifi off and not put on the cellular data (proper words?), I noticed the radio keep working. It never did that on android 12: as soon as I put the wifi/ cellular data off, the connection was interrupted.
What is happening?
PS: my hypothesis is that android keeps the connection on or switch from wifi to data automatically... But I've no idea how to test it.
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You may need to boot into stock recovery and wipe the cache, this is necessary sometimes after updating to remove any conflicting data from before the update that is causing things to be buggy.
Late answer, was kinda busy.
James_Watson said:
Then turn off the toggles next to Wi-Fi and cellular service provider’s name.
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Thank you for your answer. I've sadly tried what you said but it doesn't change. See below for detailed answer.
Droidriven said:
You may need to boot into stock recovery and wipe the cache, this is necessary sometimes after updating to remove any conflicting data from before the update that is causing things to be buggy.
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Thank you for your answer.
I read here what you mean by "boot into stock recovery and wipe the cache".
But I don't know if I can do that.
I've an XR20...
The only option when going to fastboot are :
"START" "Power off" "Restart bootloader"
No possibility to wipe the cache.
While I'm at it.
I played with network option. To test the internet connection, I use termux and run
ping www.google.com
I use the " toggles next to Wi-Fi and cellular service provider’s name" to put network on off.
Here are the results in sequential order.
"Ping ok" means: internet connection available. "No ping" means no connection. (!) means unexpected behavior.
wifi on and cellular off => ping ok
wifi off and cellular off => no ping
wifi off and cellular on => ping ok
wifi off and cellular off => ping ok (!)
wifi off and cellular on => ping ok
wifi off and cellular off => ping ok (!)
wifi off and airplane mode activated and cellular off or on => no ping
wifi off and and cellular off and airplane mode disable => ping ok (!).
Then I exit termux (using the hard method (force quit)) and then activate the airplane mode, then disable it:
wifi off and and cellular off and airplane mode disable => no ping
So in fact, it looks like once an app has asked for cellular data, the cellular data are kept on, whatever the network toggle in quick setting is set.
By the way, and just in case (1):
it reminds me than when I updated to android 13, sms couldn't send anymore pics when off network. I had to update some parameters to make it work again. (From what I understand from doing a little search, you have to "allow mms when your cellular data are disabled"). Think I had to update my APN too (I used the configuration suggested on the official website of my phone provider).
Could that be the source of the troubles?
(1) good old stuff I was taught the hard way: try to remember everything you did on your computer the day it failed. Even insignificant stuff can be the cause of huge trouble...
CassanRoz said:
Late answer, was kinda busy.
Thank you for your answer. I've sadly tried what you said but it doesn't change. See below for detailed answer.
Thank you for your answer.
I read here what you mean by "boot into stock recovery and wipe the cache".
But I don't know if I can do that.
I've an XR20...
The only option when going to fastboot are :
"START" "Power off" "Restart bootloader"
No possibility to wipe the cache.
While I'm at it.
I played with network option. To test the internet connection, I use termux and run
ping www.google.com
I use the " toggles next to Wi-Fi and cellular service provider’s name" to put network on off.
Here are the results in sequential order.
"Ping ok" means: internet connection available. "No ping" means no connection. (!) means unexpected behavior.
wifi on and cellular off => ping ok
wifi off and cellular off => no ping
wifi off and cellular on => ping ok
wifi off and cellular off => ping ok (!)
wifi off and cellular on => ping ok
wifi off and cellular off => ping ok (!)
wifi off and airplane mode activated and cellular off or on => no ping
wifi off and and cellular off and airplane mode disable => ping ok (!).
Then I exit termux (using the hard method (force quit)) and then activate the airplane mode, then disable it:
wifi off and and cellular off and airplane mode disable => no ping
So in fact, it looks like once an app has asked for cellular data, the cellular data are kept on, whatever the network toggle in quick setting is set.
By the way, and just in case (1):
it reminds me than when I updated to android 13, sms couldn't send anymore pics when off network. I had to update some parameters to make it work again. (From what I understand from doing a little search, you have to "allow mms when your cellular data are disabled"). Think I had to update my APN too (I used the configuration suggested on the official website of my phone provider).
Could that be the source of the troubles?
(1) good old stuff I was taught the hard way: try to remember everything you did on your computer the day it failed. Even insignificant stuff can be the cause of huge trouble...
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In fastboot, connect to PC, open a adb/fastboot terminal,type this command.
fastboot erase cache
Also, try going to your system settings>apps and find the apps on the app list that are using data in the background and disable background data usage for those apps.

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