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Why do we have so little?

Is it because the phone is so new, that no one has really developed for this phone? Not a single custom kernel? I still love it, and not *****ing. Literally jw..

Ive been wondering the same. Used Nexus 6, and samsung prior and theres a ton of development going on there.. only good thing i think, is that the updating and flashing new ROMs obsession is calmed. Its nice to run a rom for months and have nothing more to update to lol
A solid kernel would be amazing!!

Lmao I was gonna ask this question but I would come off as rude I had the nexus 6 and Samsung before this also. This section is dry but I work with what I have.

I think the reason is that they are waiting for 6.0.

sully9292 said:
I think the reason is that they are waiting for 6.0.
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I really hope you're right! I know a 3,000mAh battery can last more than my current set up! it needs a kernel lol

dannieloco said:
I really hope you're right! I know a 3,000mAh battery can last more than my current set up! it needs a kernel lol
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I know how you feel. There needs to be a small update.

Zooandbio4me said:
Is it because the phone is so new, that no one has really developed for this phone? Not a single custom kernel? I still love it, and not *****ing. Literally jw..
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Because all other variants are bootloader locked therefore cannot have custom kernels. You are now limited to a T-Mobile V10 developer to make a kernel.

There is a kernel in development... So that is in the works... As @KennyG123 said it's the only one with an unlocked bootloader, so it's the only that can even get a custom kernel, LG didn't release kernel source till well after the phone released, and with the niche factor of the phone(second screen ect), it's a hard phone to develop for. There aren't any examples to use, same with the kernel and chipset... To my knowledge only 4 phones use the snapdragon 808, the g4 and moto x pure being the only two besides ours that have any type of development... (blackberry priv is is locked down) also not in our favor is LG hasn't had much in the way of development since the g2 scared a lot of development off. And yes, people are waiting on mm to drop as well, because since it's introduction, it has been coming "any day now" lol. I understand that you all want to make this phone better, and if you look around there are a lot of battery saving tweaks out there currently... I'm getting over 24 hours battery life with 7.5 - 8 hours of screen on time right now. A custom kernel will make that better, but it is not a huge problem right now...
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There is a kernel in development... So that is in the works... As @KennyG123 said it's the only one with an unlocked bootloader, so it's the only that can even get a custom kernel, LG didn't release kernel source till well after the phone released, and with the niche factor of the phone(second screen ect), it's a hard phone to develop for. There aren't any examples to use, same with the kernel and chipset... To my knowledge only 4 phones use the snapdragon 808, the g4 and moto x pure being the only two besides ours that have any type of development... (blackberry priv is is locked down) also not in our favor is LG hasn't had much in the way of development since the g2 scared a lot of development off. And yes, people are waiting on mm to drop as well, because since it's introduction, it has been coming "any day now" lol. I understand that you all want to make this phone better, and if you look around there are a lot of battery saving tweaks out there currently... I'm getting over 24 hours battery life with 7.5 - 8 hours of screen on time right now. A custom kernel will make that better, but it is not a huge problem right now...
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Hey bud,
I have been doing all the tweaks Im reading in regards to battery saving and stuff.. half my alarms on Amplify are basically turning off everything, which is fine. But I don't get near 7-8 hours of SOT. On a good day I get 4-5. Not sure if its the hospital I work at and the constant reception finding the phone does or if it's just the tweaks I have aren't optimal. Im glad I'm getting at least 24 hours of battery with moderate use.

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Hey bud,
I have been doing all the tweaks Im reading in regards to battery saving and stuff.. half my alarms on Amplify are basically turning off everything, which is fine. But I don't get near 7-8 hours of SOT. On a good day I get 4-5. Not sure if its the hospital I work at and the constant reception finding the phone does or if it's just the tweaks I have aren't optimal. Im glad I'm getting at least 24 hours of battery with moderate use.
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A good signal or WiFi connection definitely is part of that... There's a rural area about an hour east of Cincinnati in do a lot of work in that my signal jumps from edge to 4glte and everything in between all day long, on day I'm out there I'm lucky to get 5sot too.
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Wow, I was thinking of ditching this phone too. I did not know samsung was locking their bootloaders. My note 4 was a great phone. I may go to a nexus device. Devs love the nexus line.
Then again, I love my v10. I do not have any issues. I was thinking of ditching due to lack of development. I do understand the issues of the second screen. I also love 264 gigs of memory.
I'll just wait until mm roms become more stable.
LIBERTY or DEATH

Yeah I kinda miss messing with my phone. I used the LG bridge app and upgraded. MM seems smooth to me...just mess having su privileges. But guess a cool ROM is on way. No issues at all now...
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The most boring phone I've ever owned

Hey folks just wanted to say that I really love my V10. But coming from Nexus and some of the other LG series I am going crazy with the lack of "things" to tinker with. I am not exactly a flash-a-holic but I am definitely a tinkerer (if thats a word). I like to flash custom Roms and fool around with xposed and maybe a little mod here or there. It's crazy how this phone still has virtually no developer support or any kind of custom rom scene. (yes I understand why about the locked bootloaders etc etc). It's been so long I almost feel like I'm rusty and probably forgot how.. Haha.
Nevertheless I love it and it's a great phone (although a bit on the heavy side as time goes on). My wife just got the Galaxy S7 and it's so nice and small and bright and waterproof. Does make me think about looking other ways. I dunno. I hope LG doesn't just make this phone like a stepchild to the flagship series. Still barely gettin marshmallow update in other countries and not really anything new with the 2nd screen for any apps or anything. I guess this is borderline off topic but just some musings I've had the last week or so. Later!
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I feel the same way. I have been considering selling this and getting something else.
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If you have a version that is rootable, use the many xposed modules out there. I have tweaked mine to be better than what my nexus 5 was. If you have been around long enough as I have, you will have learned that when ROM's are not available that a Root Explorer is a very good friend. I will go in depth
Base things one uses with a unlocked bootloader / Alternatives to a locked bootloader.
Custom Recovery: TWRP (Or W/E you like) / FlashFire (Install zips, make backups)
Custom ROM: CyanogenMod ( Or if Im using a device DHacker is supporting then I would use that to test the **** out of it) / Stock/BloatStock ( Xposed Modules can do almost everything any custom ROM can if not more than what a Custom ROM could do)
Custom Kernel: Dont need one, never needed one. If it was forced via the ROM then it was used. / Plenty of apps to do little things like Overclock or RAM management etc.
It's my belief people new to the Android Platform go for Custom ROMs is to get everything in one place in one ROM build. Hence why Android is beginning to absorb most of the popular things in the modding community to the aosp nexus builds, slowly if I might add.
All in all, research, time, and stock img files are your best friend to learn from trial and error.

I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.

DarkestSpawn said:
If you have a version that is rootable, use the many xposed modules out there. I have tweaked mine to be better than what my nexus 5 was. If you have been around long enough as I have, you will have learned that when ROM's are not available that a Root Explorer is a very good friend. I will go in depth
Base things one uses with a unlocked bootloader / Alternatives to a locked bootloader.
Custom Recovery: TWRP (Or W/E you like) / FlashFire (Install zips, make backups)
Custom ROM: CyanogenMod ( Or if Im using a device DHacker is supporting then I would use that to test the **** out of it) / Stock/BloatStock ( Xposed Modules can do almost everything any custom ROM can if not more than what a Custom ROM could do)
Custom Kernel: Dont need one, never needed one. If it was forced via the ROM then it was used. / Plenty of apps to do little things like Overclock or RAM management etc.
It's my belief people new to the Android Platform go for Custom ROMs is to get everything in one place in one ROM build. Hence why Android is beginning to absorb most of the popular things in the modding community to the aosp nexus builds, slowly if I might add.
All in all, research, time, and stock img files are your best friend to learn from trial and error.
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Totally agree, I dont miss the phone dying on me once in a while, having to flash an "old" backup, loosing some data... And with xPosed this phone is as customisable as I ever needed :good:

I am the same ..im bored of this phone
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faearai01 said:
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
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Ppl like you will never understand what he talking about

Explain it to me. Explain it for people like me.

faearai01 said:
Explain it to me. Explain it for people like me.
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I said you will never understand ..so even if i did explain it you won't understand its something like drugs

But I'm willing to understand. So give me a hint and maybe it turns into a TIL.

faeArai said:
But I'm willing to understand. So give me a hint and maybe it turns into a TIL.
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The need to be able to make a change to how the phone operates, and see that change in action.
And then change it again. Ownership of the device, playing with the experience of using the phone.
Getting to touch, swish, swipe, scroll - interact with the device (you never been in bed and gone endlessly through your settings menu, again and again; into all the options, all the possibilities? It's not really for the 'settings', you already know what you want really...It's to swish and swipe, especially if the phone is high end, the screen is beautiful and the actions like silk) until you fall asleep cradling it lovingly in your hand under the pillow and waking with it stuck to your cheek?
A sense of learning
A sense of making technology do what You want - of being able to effect change.
To. Develop. Perhaps.
To use the phone.
To discover and distribute something to others..
TO TWEAK BATTERY LIFE. (Heh)
To be part of a community doing the same.

This is my second LG phone, and absolutely latest one.
Whay?
Because of soooo pore support and update.
Update is nothing.
Im coming from LG G4, REALLY what's improvement in LG V10? nothing + poor update support.
At all i NEVER buy a LG phone and NEVER suggest any LG mobile phone for anyone.

Talk about 1st world problems ?

faearai01 said:
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
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So what are you going to buy now?

I've a v10 and will stay with it for at least one year. Since MM is being rolled-out, I'm pretty fine. I also had and still have several nexus devices and was disappointed by the quality of hardware.

There is a lot more to do on the V10 than my previous Nexus 6. I don't think I understand...

I don't get that guys here saying that they are moving to an other phone. Just do it. But noone cares which phone you have and why you're moving on. It seems like those guys still are not sure and just want other to ask them to stay. I don't care. Have fun with your next phone - until you get it and and complain and buy an other one. And so on and so on. There is an other root cause of your frustration and I'm pretty sure it's not the phone ?

This thread is not serving any productive purpose.
Meanwhile people are raving about the LG V10...
LG V10 & V10 Dual Sim - Reviews Collection
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHjPU6VGWk-5PiT76ejWAUamHYxWaeDK

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This thread is not serving any productive purpose.
Meanwhile people are raving about the LG V10...
LG V10 & V10 Dual Sim - Reviews Collection
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHjPU6VGWk-5PiT76ejWAUamHYxWaeDK
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The best phone around by far :good:

Only one feature missing imo: IP68.

Should have stayed with my nexus 6. The second screen is a crappie gimmick. Gonna try and stick with this phone until the note comes out.

The ROM to choose

Dear Xda.
I've been struggling to choose between ROMAUR, Duality and Existenz N for my xperia XZ.
I deem my performance and battery life most important, I don't really care about customizations.
Which one would you guys recommend for my needs?
Thanks in advance
Cheers,
Cas.

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Erayh said:
ROMAUR, Duality and Existenz N
Which one would you guys recommend for my needs?
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I can give you no personal recommendation and for me there are is not too much difference between them.
I doubt that you will notice any difference in battery life between them and stock.
Each has vocal fans.
Read the ROM threads to get a feel what might be good/bad about each ROM.
Personally I did not like the tone I read out of the ROMAUR thread.
I do not like the LOUD claims of Duality.
I had Existenz on my phone for several months and found it to be of very good quality and liked the customizations very much.
I dropped it for stock because it got a bit slow (only one great developer) in security updates and I can live without the tweaks.
Switching a ROM with proper backups will not cost you more than 5 hours.

DHGE said:
I can give you no personal recommendation and for me there are is not too much difference between them.
I doubt that you will notice any difference in battery life between them and stock.
Each has vocal fans.
Read the ROM threads to get a feel what might be good/bad about each ROM.
Personally I did not like the tone I read out of the ROMAUR thread.
I do not like the LOUD claims of Duality.
I had Existenz on my phone for several months and found it to be of very good quality and liked the customizations very much.
I dropped it for stock because it got a bit slow (only one great developer) in security updates and I can live without the tweaks.
Switching a ROM with proper backups will not cost you more than 5 hours.
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Just like he said. Back up in TWRP so you can always come back to a state that is fine for you. It's super easy to switch RoMs
Then there is not so many to try so make your own mind, this ain't oneplus forum with countless ROM
If your feelling it you can also add CR droid to your list for a touch of AOSP, but like above, read the thread, get a feel and try by yourself.

rom development for pxl3

Haven't had a g phone since nexus ended.
How fast has rom development happened on previous pixel?
Coming from p20 pro and honestly this is the least excited I ever been for a new phone ??*
But exited to rom flash ?

As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.

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As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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This phone seems a little easier than 2XL.

sn0warmy said:
As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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Wow. Not what I wanted to hear and remember from the nexus days. Memory is getting foggy but I felt like kernels and ROMs were out BEFORE release of the devices..
Either I remember it wrong or the scene had truly faded ?
At this stage I almost feel like getting an iPhone for the same price with better memory management and faster app delivery.
Crazy thought ?

i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then

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Wow. Not what I wanted to hear and remember from the nexus days. Memory is getting foggy but I felt like kernels and ROMs were out BEFORE release of the devices..
Either I remember it wrong or the scene had truly faded ...
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It's not so much that the "scene has faded". It's more that Android has come a long way over the past couple of years. The big features people used to have to root to get are now baked right into stock Android. I'd argue that this is actually a great thing for Android. In fact, again referencing the Pixel 2 XL ROMs, you'll be hard pressed to find any ROM in that sub-forum that offers much more over stock Android other than being 'debloated' (as if the stock ROM has much bloat to begin with...) with a couple little features here and there.
Don't get me wrong, there are still solid reasons to at least unlock the bootloader. For instance, custom kernels like Franco or Elemental X still provide notable performance/battery life improvements over the stock kernel. And those should start becoming available for the 3 XL within a couple of weeks, if the timeline is similar to that of the previous Pixel line-ups.
And many people still love to tinker with Magisk modules for various add-ons. I don't do this, personally but Magisk is already available and if modules aren't ready yet, they will be shortly.
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At this stage I almost feel like getting an iPhone for the same price with better memory management and faster app delivery.
Crazy thought ?
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To each their own. I had a stint with the iPhone X between my 2 XL and OnePlus 6. The build quality of that phone is simply phenomenal. The speakers are fantastic and the haptic feedback engine is on a different level. But IOS is still just as locked down as it has ever been. I just couldn't get myself to fully enjoy IOS so I moved back to Android pretty quick. If you're looking for a phone that you can root/tinker with, the iPhone absolutely is not a good option for you.

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It's not so much that the "scene has faded". It's more that Android has come a long way over the past couple of years. The big features people used to have to root to get are now baked right into stock Android. I'd argue that this is actually a great thing for Android. In fact, again referencing the Pixel 2 XL ROMs, you'll be hard pressed to find any ROM in that sub-forum that offers much more over stock Android other than being 'debloated' (as if the stock ROM has much bloat to begin with...) with a couple little features here and there.
Don't get me wrong, there are still solid reasons to root. For instance, custom kernels like Franco or Elemental X still provide notable performance/battery life improvements over the stock kernel. And those should start becoming available for the 3 XL within a couple of weeks, if the timeline is similar to that of the previous Pixel line-ups.
And many people still love to tinker with Magisk modules for various add-ons. I don't do this, personally but Magisk is already available and if modules aren't ready yet, they will be shortly.
To each their own. I had a stint with the iPhone X between my 2 XL and OnePlus 6. The build quality of that phone is simply phenomenal. The speakers are fantastic and the haptic feedback engine is on a different level. But IOS is still just as locked down as it has ever been. I just couldn't get myself to fully enjoy IOS so I moved back to Android pretty quick. If you're looking for a phone that you can root/tinker with, the iPhone absolutely is not a good option for you.
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That's the beauty of Android. Choose your own setup. And that is why I am on android. I miss way to much customization to enjoy the vanilla experience.
I know this goes against the common sense but almost like emui more that I am on my p20 pro. It's bloated but it has RAM to handle it.
Truly miss the madness of the xposed booming too. Now there is hardly anything worth or at least very limited reason to go exposed and risk stability..
Haven't been on ios since 3gs but the walled garden was the reason I left. I know it hasn't changed but since I am staying more and more on stock so that's why I am thinking ios ??*

Just a guess....
Now that root is here, I'd guess two more weeks till TWRP drops.
Three weeks before custom stock ROM's start to show up.
And five-six weeks before the first beta non-supported Lineage OS ROM shows up.
Seven-eight weeks before the first non LOS custom ROM shows up.
Two and a half months before a really special, kick-ass fully-optioned custom ROM shows up.
Three-four months till a supported LOS ROM drops.
Like I said, just a guess.

dipstik said:
i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then
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How did you get lmt pie working may I ask?

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How did you get lmt pie working may I ask?
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What's the problem? Just installed the apk.
I'm actually good with rooted stock these days, but I'd love a good kernel.

Lmt works? That's funny because I got my PXL3 last week and didn't setup yet because I need nav menu bar. As you I miss smartbar. Can't wait.
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i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then
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Chronzy said:
What's the problem? Just installed the apk.
I'm actually good with rooted stock these days, but I'd love a good kernel.
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I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.

And substratum lol gotta have the dark ui
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I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.
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I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.
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I see what you're saying, I only use it on the side. I believe you can hide it with substratum like mentioned, but I've never tried it.

CZ Eddie said:
Just a guess....
Now that root is here, I'd guess two more weeks till TWRP drops.
Three weeks before custom stock ROM's start to show up.
And five-six weeks before the first beta non-supported Lineage OS ROM shows up.
Seven-eight weeks before the first non LOS custom ROM shows up.
Two and a half months before a really special, kick-ass fully-optioned custom ROM shows up.
Three-four months till a supported LOS ROM drops.
Like I said, just a guess.
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CZ is the MAN!
Stock with a good kernel like Flash and maybe a tuning script is all I need. Then this phone will be perfect for me...
Kernels will appear next week, guessing....
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sn0warmy said:
As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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good to see you around these parts!
I agree with everything you just said.
Coming from OP6 i didn't even feel the need to flash a new rom.
Magisk + modules was good enough. the most I flashed was a kernel lolz

Looks like Dirty unicorns incoming...

I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.

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I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I have mixed feelings. I rooted all 45 different Android phones I owned prior to my last 3 (essential, OnePlus 6, and more pixel 3A). I feel like these days there are way fewer reasons to use custom roms. Base Android has gotten really good, stock roms (for companies like OnePlus and essential) are stable and add lots of useful features, and the good manufacturers are doing updates multiple times a month anyways. We don't see crazy innovation like we did back in old paranoid Android days with projects like Halo and pie controls. And a lot of the real kernel developers like sultanxda moved on to other non-Android projects. It's a shame, but it helped push Google and it's partners into making better software. God knows how many features Google copied from custom roms. Kind of makes you wonder where we'll go from here now that roms are less of a necessity.

Yeah, I was on Android from day one and had been flashing the old windows phone before that. I've stopped installing roms on the last few phones however because I perceive them as worse than the stock software. I came here from a 6T which had a fair few ROMs but none that had the fingerprint sensor working correctly. I want that fingerprint sensor. There are other things but that's the idea, I used to see roms as a proposition where I gave up a few things but gained more than I lost. Now I don't see myself gaining much of anything that I'm not getting with a quick trip into Magisk with everything still working, but I do see things like that lost fingerprint sensor. It's kind of sad to me in a way because it was a bit like a hobby.

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I have mixed feelings. I rooted all 45 different Android phones I owned prior to my last 3 (essential, OnePlus 6, and more pixel 3A). I feel like these days there are way fewer reasons to use custom roms. Base Android has gotten really good, stock roms (for companies like OnePlus and essential) are stable and add lots of useful features, and the good manufacturers are doing updates multiple times a month anyways. We don't see crazy innovation like we did back in old paranoid Android days with projects like Halo and pie controls. And a lot of the real kernel developers like sultanxda moved on to other non-Android projects. It's a shame, but it helped push Google and it's partners into making better software. God knows how many features Google copied from custom roms. Kind of makes you wonder where we'll go from here now that roms are less of a necessity.
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I agree with you. I haven't rooted my past 4 (6, 6p, pixel xl, pixel 2 xl) probably bc they all ran "pure Google."
I do also have a note 9 att variant and I wanted to root and install custom on that device the 2nd day in.
But to have options is always a good thing. Keep it up devs!!!
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I can't get excited because I tried to figure out what features this rom has that would entice me to get into unlocking/etc and I can't find any sort of place where they actually tell you why you should install their mod. Their website still lists g+, to give an idea of how good their user communication is.

Is there any way I can get hotspot to work without having to use a custom rom

With magisk and Xposed, ROMs just aren't as necessary to me as they used to be, especially now that Google has made a good bit of functionality Pixel-only that isn't always replicated as well in ROMs.
There are still plenty of folks looking forward to them though, so this is definitely good news!

I stopped using custom roms when Marshmallow came out.
But I still use EX for the kernel..
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jmcandrews83 said:
Is there any way I can get hotspot to work without having to use a custom rom
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Yes, there's a build prop mod that pretty well known and works on any phone. Unfortunately you need an unlocked bootloader and root so no OTAs and you'll have to keep magisk updated to keep safety net working (it gets updated pretty often)

Heck I dont know why anyone would not want a custom rom. More options and features. Yeah stock has gone far these days but I will always welcome more development.

I can totally understand why people feel there isn't a need for root access or custom ROMs anymore. Stock has certainly improved a lot. I find it useful for a few things, though:
Limiting battery charge to 80% so it prolongs the life of my battery. It's important in a world where you can no longer change batteries with ease.
Swapping my back button on the nav bar to the right side
De-Googling my phone, i.e. installing LineageOS without GApps.

Hold on just a sec, for my part I didn't say anything about root, that's a must have for me. I also didn't say that I don't welcome the development, just that it probably wont be for me. Despite that I'm always glad to see it happen whether it is applicable to my use case or not. I certainly didn't mean to imply or say that ROM development is bad, I apologize if that was the connotation people got from my posts.

krabman said:
Hold on just a sec, for my part I didn't say anything about root, that's a must have for me. I also didn't say that I don't welcome the development, just that it probably wont be for me. Despite that I'm always glad to see it happen whether it is applicable to my use case or not. I certainly didn't mean to imply or say that ROM development is bad, I apologize if that was the connotation people got from my posts.
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Hey, there! If you're replying to me, I'm sorry if I mislsed you. I didn't quote anyone because I was just referring to the general discussion from everyone.

Archangel said:
Heck I dont know why anyone would not want a custom rom. More options and features. Yeah stock has gone far these days but I will always welcome more development.
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Same here bro ...i love more options and features cuz then it feels like i have 3 different phones in 1 lmao
Stock is getting better but still a little boring for me

I just hope this isnt another one of those Pixel XL things where all of the development goes to the XL and nothing comes to the regular Pixel 3a

Looks like they released a release candidate.
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/?device=bonito

Wickidmasshole said:
I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I would think that would be the case - especially given the massive availability in North America alone. (I had a Galaxy Nexus and ran DU on it starting with Marshmallow and through Nougat - DU on a Pixel 3a XL would be - literally - Old Home Week and a good thing.) The ONLY reason I'm not running DU *now* is that I left the GNex for the Galaxy S7 Snapdragon - and not long after, the GNex croaked - it's now a paperweight.
If anything, the Pixel could be bigger than the Nexus line *ever* got to be - here is why:
1. First off, it can go to any carrier in North America - it's not restricted to Verizon Wireless.
2. Wide retail availablility - online my foot! I don't HATE online - I just prefer retail for things like phones (and that is despite being in the front yard of Amazon HQ2). And that is just the availability end.
3. Sane pricing - even, if not especially, in retail. ($479USD - as I stated before, that is the 3a XL - *half* the price of the S10e.) The S10e is pricier than the Note 9 - which is bad enough; to have the 3a XL undercut the same S10e by that much? Why would - or should- I buy an S10e? (And I don't hate the S10e - before the 3a and 3a XL came along, I was seriously considering the S10e, and I had actually seen it in retail and gotten some hands-on time with one - I haven't been able to do that with the 3a XL yet.)

Archangel said:
I just hope this isnt another one of those Pixel XL things where all of the development goes to the XL and nothing comes to the regular Pixel 3a
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The XL has been Google's AOSP build target with all the Pixels including 3a.

lazycow said:
The XL has been Google's AOSP build target with all the Pixels including 3a.
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So, I should return my 3a and get an XL for the dev support, you think?

jmtjr278 said:
So, I should return my 3a and get an XL for the dev support, you think?
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I suspect the XL will get more support. But I don't know enough about either device to be sure how development will progress.