If you guys have been waiting for a quick charge 3.0 compatible charger, the Tronsmart Quick Charger 3.0 which will be be compatible with the A9 is now available on Amazon:
http://goo.gl/vb4Ryl
Featured with the latest Charging Technology Quick Charge 3.0, 27% faster than Quick Charge 2.0.
38% most efficient compare to the previous generation Quick Charge 2.0
Decrease the extra heat of the compatible phone upto 45%
Backwards compatible with Quick Charge 2.0 & Quick Charge 1.0
Package Content:1 x Tronsmart Quick Charge 3.0 Wall Charger, 1 x Quick Charge 3.0 Charging Cable, 1 x Warranty Card.
Aukey also has one available, and it looks slightly more compact:
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Certified-Aukey-Charger-Included/dp/B015FPKEM8/ref=cm_rdp_product
thisisjason said:
Aukey also has one available, and it looks slightly more compact:
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Certified-Aukey-Charger-Included/dp/B015FPKEM8/ref=cm_rdp_product
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I saw the Aukey 3.0 charger it became available a day or two after the Tronsmart charger. I have an Aukey qc 2.0 wall and car charger which are both excellent. I went ahead and ordered the Tronsmart charger I listed which is also qc 2.0/1.0 compatible, I should have it tomorrow. I wanted to compare the build quality between them.
Both have proven track records so more than likely either one will be a safe bet regardless of which one you choose. I'll post a follow up once I receive it!
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I saw the Aukey 3.0 charger it became available a day or two after the Tronsmart charger. I have an Aukey qc 2.0 wall and car charger which are both excellent. I went ahead and ordered the Tronsmart charger I listed which is also qc 2.0/1.0 compatible, I should have it tomorrow. I wanted to compare the build quality between them.
Both have proven track records so more than likely either one will be a safe bet regardless of which one you choose. I'll post a follow up once I receive it!
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Looking forward to your thoughts on it. I have a Tronsmart QC 2.0 car charger, very good quality.
I also noticed that the Tronsmart includes a longer USB cable, which is nice.
gheymann said:
I saw the Aukey 3.0 charger it became available a day or two after the Tronsmart charger. I have an Aukey qc 2.0 wall and car charger which are both excellent. I went ahead and ordered the Tronsmart charger I listed which is also qc 2.0/1.0 compatible, I should have it tomorrow. I wanted to compare the build quality between them.
Both have proven track records so more than likely either one will be a safe bet regardless of which one you choose. I'll post a follow up once I receive it!
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How about the build quality between them? Any update?
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How about the build quality between them? Any update?
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The Tronsmart qc 3.0 charger is very solidly built and smaller than I expected, it is close to the same size as my Aukey 2.0 quickcharger although it feels slightly bigger in the hand due to the the defined edges while the Aukey is rounded on either side and relatively flat on top and bottom.
I don't have any qc 3.0 devices at this point to be able to give a comparison of charge times between the qc 3.0 and 2.0 charging, although I don't have any reason to doubt the quoted specs since the qc 2.0 times have proven to be correct over time.
I will say that anecdotally there does seem to be a little bit of a difference when charging a qc 2.0 phone with the Tronsmart 3.0 charger, and that is that it seems to take slightly longer to charge the phone when compared with the Aukey 2.0 charger but the phone doesn't seem to get as warm when quick charging.
This wasn't a scientific test just a general observation, so your mileage may vary, I hope this is helpful. I can say that I wouldn't have any problem recommending Tronsmart or Aukey chargers going forward they have similar specs and are both priced competitively.
I cancelled my HTC one a9 pre-order after the shipping was delayed, so I'm not sure when I will have a qc 3.0 device to test it with.
Just bought the Tronsmart QC 3.0 and it came today, and Quickcharge 3.0 isn't as fast as I expected it to be... I got home from work and did a little experiment, Phone was at 6%, and as I plugged it in, I set a timer. 32 minutes into charging, my phone (HTC One A9) was only at 43%. Much slower than I expected... 37% in 32 minutes, nowhere near the advertised speed of 85% in 35 minutes on a 3300mAh battery. Airplane mode was also turned on while charging.
Would not recommend.
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Just bought the Tronsmart QC 3.0 and it came today, and Quickcharge 3.0 isn't as fast as I expected it to be... I got home from work and did a little experiment, Phone was at 6%, and as I plugged it in, I set a timer. 32 minutes into charging, my phone (HTC One A9) was only at 43%. Much slower than I expected... 37% in 32 minutes, nowhere near the advertised speed of 85% in 35 minutes on a 3300mAh battery. Airplane mode was also turned on while charging.
Would not recommend.
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I have read some news that the early version of HTC One A9 just comes with QC2.0 support, but a future software update will bring the QC3.0.
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I have read some news that the early version of HTC One A9 just comes with QC2.0 support, but a future software update will bring the QC3.0.
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Even at qc 2.0 speeds, it shouldn't be charging at around 1% every minute right? or am I wrong. When I saw the quick charge statistics of 60% in 30 minutes, I imagined around 2% a minute
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Even at qc 2.0 speeds, it shouldn't be charging at around 1% every minute right? or am I wrong. When I saw the quick charge statistics of 60% in 30 minutes, I imagined around 2% a minute
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That fast charge 0-60% in 30 min is the test done by qualcomm in the lab. Actually there will be some errors between different devices which support QC 2.0 technology.
hyudryu said:
Just bought the Tronsmart QC 3.0 and it came today, and Quickcharge 3.0 isn't as fast as I expected it to be... I got home from work and did a little experiment, Phone was at 6%, and as I plugged it in, I set a timer. 32 minutes into charging, my phone (HTC One A9) was only at 43%. Much slower than I expected... 37% in 32 minutes, nowhere near the advertised speed of 85% in 35 minutes on a 3300mAh battery. Airplane mode was also turned on while charging.
Would not recommend.
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Do you have that usb mah meter i have one and lg g4 charge at 9v 1.35A while note 5 9v 1.65a so its up to deive manufacture get the voltage done and qualcom test is at max qc2.0 speeds thats 12v 1.5a or more? thats double the 9v charging so yea 2% per min
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Do you have that usb mah meter i have one and lg g4 charge at 9v 1.35A while note 5 9v 1.65a so its up to deive manufacture get the voltage done and qualcom test is at max qc2.0 speeds thats 12v 1.5a or more? thats double the 9v charging so yea 2% per min
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No I don't have a current meter that can measure USB currents. It's only 1% a minute when charging my phone. Quick charge is way too hyped up.
I always look into verified purchaser ratings in amazon while buying anything. I found the following Quick Charge 3.0 which (brands) are listed in qualcomm website (website doesn't have 3.0 listing of accessories, but these manufacturers of accessories are found:
1. JDB Quick Charge 3.0 18W USB - $26.99 (61 customers - 5stars) - http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-JDB-...860&sr=1-6&keywords=qualcomm+quick+charge+3.0
2. Anker PowerPort+ 1 (Quick Charge 3.0 18W USB Wall Charger) - $25.99 (45 customers - 5 stars) - http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Anke...860&sr=1-1&keywords=qualcomm+quick+charge+3.0
I am still waiting on my HTC A9 pre-order to be delivered, would pick any of these. If anyone bought either of these please give me your opinions on these. By the way, has A9 received the update that would support quick charge 3.0 yet (it was told that, the new s/w update later in the year would support QC 3.0)
Edit: Also found this one for $15, and it says qualcomm quick charge 3.0. Looks very cost effective, but none of the review highlight on QC 3.0. Did anyone try this? http://www.newnow.com/products/tc-0...INWCtxjqipuNSxwZhGJVeE3T1EaAjWI8P8HAQ#proDesc
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Even at qc 2.0 speeds, it shouldn't be charging at around 1% every minute right? or am I wrong. When I saw the quick charge statistics of 60% in 30 minutes, I imagined around 2% a minute
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I bought this same charger too and I'm with you, doesn't seem any faster that my regular charger. the Anker 3.0 wasn't listed (or I missed it) when I ordered the Transmart or I would have ordered that one instead.
i'll check the voltage & amps in GSam next time I charge to see what it says.
I bought the JDB QC 3.0 charger on eBay from China for $18 (also available on AliExpress for $14). It seems like a good deal and good quality if one can be patient.
I do wish those of you posting performance comments would hold your water until your phone actually supports version 3.0; until then the 3.0 chargers aren't likely to be any faster with 2.0 phones (e.g. the A9 with current firmware).
FWIW the 3.0 spec defines charge voltages every 0.2V from 3.6V (some places say 3.2V) all the way up to 20V. That does not mean that all chargers offer this range, or that all devices can use these voltages (the phone determines which of the available voltages to use through time). The 2.0 spec only had a few charge voltages to choose from so the more granular voltage choices with 3.0 should be a win for all devices. All of the chargers mentioned so far offer a top voltage of 12V at 1.5A (compared to HTC's 2.0 max of 12V at 1.25A). At 9V there is 2A available (compared to 1.67A for 2.0). In the range around 5V the different products list different currents between 2A and 3A but at this stage I suspect the spec differences are probably not real (2.0 is 1.67A for comparison). So potentially 3.0 can provide up to 20% more current than 2.0 across the voltage range. In practice the greatest benefit will be to devices with large batteries (i.e. not A9) as they can absorb charge faster - it is quite possible that the A9 will not benefit from the higher available currents at all (but still benefit from the smaller voltage steps). I look forward to getting real world measurements.
Greg
CarinaPDX said:
I bought the JDB QC 3.0 charger on eBay from China for $18 (also available on AliExpress for $14). It seems like a good deal and good quality if one can be patient.
I do wish those of you posting performance comments would hold your water until your phone actually supports version 3.0; until then the 3.0 chargers aren't likely to be any faster with 2.0 phones (e.g. the A9 with current firmware).
FWIW the 3.0 spec defines charge voltages every 0.2V from 3.6V (some places say 3.2V) all the way up to 20V. That does not mean that all chargers offer this range, or that all devices can use these voltages (the phone determines which of the available voltages to use through time). The 2.0 spec only had a few charge voltages to choose from so the more granular voltage choices with 3.0 should be a win for all devices. All of the chargers mentioned so far offer a top voltage of 12V at 1.5A (compared to HTC's 2.0 max of 12V at 1.25A). At 9V there is 2A available (compared to 1.67A for 2.0). In the range around 5V the different products list different currents between 2A and 3A but at this stage I suspect the spec differences are probably not real (2.0 is 1.67A for comparison). So potentially 3.0 can provide up to 20% more current than 2.0 across the voltage range. In practice the greatest benefit will be to devices with large batteries (i.e. not A9) as they can absorb charge faster - it is quite possible that the A9 will not benefit from the higher available currents at all (but still benefit from the smaller voltage steps). I look forward to getting real world measurements.
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I just did a little experiment with my HTC one a9 and my old iphone 6. I used both till they are the same battery level (16%), and (With airplane mode on for both devices) I plugged my HTC to the tronsmart qc 3.0 adapter, and my iphone into the HTC charger that came in the box. A little while later, I checked the percentages and they were exactly the same. Either my HTC is charging at conventional speeds, or the iPhone charges at the same speed as Qc 2.0 (Roughly 1% every minute), Never owned a Qc 2.0 device so not sure if that's the normal speed... Anyone have any input on this?
It's not just comparing apples and oranges, there are multiple differences: battery capacity, age, and charging regimens available in both phones and chargers. I don't see any comparability. As for charging regimens, the new A9 is a QC 2.0 device (for now) charging on a QC 3.0 charger, which means the CPU will only request voltages that are available in QC 2.0 and only with slightly higher amperage available from the charger (which may not even be usable with the A9's small battery). So I expect little or no improvement over a QC 2.0 charger. We will have to wait for a test of QC 3.0. The iPhone uses Apple's own charging regimen, which usually doesn't charge fast unless connected to an Apple charger, or one able to act like one. I suspect the QC chargers have that ability, as it is increasingly common, so the question is how much current is available in the charger for the Qualcomm implementation of the Apple protocol?
I think the identical charging times is just an accident.
hyudryu said:
I just did a little experiment with my HTC one a9 and my old iphone 6. I used both till they are the same battery level (16%), and (With airplane mode on for both devices) I plugged my HTC to the tronsmart qc 3.0 adapter, and my iphone into the HTC charger that came in the box. A little while later, I checked the percentages and they were exactly the same. Either my HTC is charging at conventional speeds, or the iPhone charges at the same speed as Qc 2.0 (Roughly 1% every minute), Never owned a Qc 2.0 device so not sure if that's the normal speed... Anyone have any input on this?
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If you owned any HTC Phone since One M8 series, all of them came with QC 2.0 charger, including the A9 bundled charger
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If you owned any HTC Phone since One M8 series, all of them came with QC 2.0 charger, including the A9 bundled charger
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So you're saying that QC 2.0 is supposed to charge at 1% every minute? That's very slow compared to Qualcomm's advertised speeds. And if the iPhone 6 charges at the same speed as the HTC One A9, then does that means the iPhone supports QC 2.0? I find that weird because Apple's specs say nothing about quick charging.
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So you're saying that QC 2.0 is supposed to charge at 1% every minute? That's very slow compared to Qualcomm's advertised speeds. And if the iPhone 6 charges at the same speed as the HTC One A9, then does that means the iPhone supports QC 2.0? I find that weird because Apple's specs say nothing about quick charging.
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I am not sure if it is 1% per minute. My M8 charges 70% in an hour. QC 2.0 is the technology of qualcomm and nothing to do with Apple. Apple doesn't use the the qualcomm technology but they have their own, and advanced Apple iPhones have charging capacity similar to QC 2.0 . QC 3.0 is going to be the new technogy when qualcomm makes it available through HTC update, which we are expecting to be a great upgrade (which is not available on A9 yet, though the hardware is all set to do that)
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Any good powerbank out there. At least a 10000 mah above.
To be able to use fast charging feature in Note 4.
Actually that sounds like it would be really cool if it exists, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's a powerbank that supports quick charge. I've held off on picking up a powerbank for a while now, but if something like this is even possible it would probably get me interested, it'd be pretty awesome to be able to just plug in to a backup battery and have it charge up the phone with quickcharge speed ;P I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's not possible though... Anyone know?
Think the dual voltage 5 and 9 volt needed for quickcharge wil be a problem to design a powerbank with a feature like that. I don't say it's impossible but probably won't be cheap or small formfacfor
Yea. Is cool if fast charge powerbank then bring out to fast charge note 4. Lol.
There is this compact power bank (and it supports quick charging itself within 3 hours - via 2.1A input - at least on paper)
APE MP5200Q on Alibaba (not aliexpress)
Weight: 132g
Input: 5V/2.2A
Outport: 5V/3.5A,9V/1.5A,12V/1.5A
3 output ports: 2 USB ports and 1 built-in micro USB cable
Over-charge/discharge, over-current,short protection
Quick Charge output port: output 9V/1.5A or 12V/1.5A on Quick Charge state
Battery Cell type: Samsung Li-ion 18650
Quick charge 2.0: Class A
and it looks good too!
the only missing thing to make it a perfect power bank, would be 15W wireless charging capability...
Please everyone do say what Power bank you have
& how much time does it take to fully charge a Drained battery
So we know which charges how many times, Once or twice or more ....
Thank you all
I have aukey quick charge the silver 10400mah model its charge lg g4 same as qc2.0 wall charger I have mah meter
I also have an aukey but the PB-T2 model 12000mAh. Have quick charge USB outlet and also a normal 1A USB outlet. Has a 2A microusb input for charging an a so-so LED light built in. A bit heavy and slightly longer than the Note 4 in size. Cons: I would have preferred a 2.1A instead of the 1A USB outlet for fast charging other non quick charge devices.
yosef019 said:
I have aukey quick charge the silver 10400mah model its charge lg g4 same as qc2.0 wall charger I have mah meter
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As above Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 external battery packs are pretty good. They do them in different sizes and go above 10000mah
BlitzWolf looks good.
banggood.com are doing pre order, to be sent out 20th November.
From a store rep..
We use the newer chip FP6600 that not only supports QC but also standard fast charging, the Aukey does charge at QC speeds with their THY100 but will not fast charge other devices such as your iPhone at fast speeds. BlitzWolf's newer IC provides compatibility beyond just QC devices. The battery of the BlitzWolf is is LG and also of a higher standard than Aukeys domestic Chinese brand batteries. In terms of safety and compatibility this is one step ahead of Aukeys 6 month old version.
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Use coupon "12blitzw" for 12% off.. (Don't know when it ends)
I am using Aukey Power Bank with 15000maH.
Supports Quick Charge and PowerBank itself charges as Quick Charging.
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Any good powerbank out there. At least a 10000 mah above.
To be able to use fast charging feature in Note 4.
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Hmm... we have Note 4's a removable battery is more compact and supports quick charge. Just have to get a battery charger that supports it. There would also be less power loss because it would be more efficient than transferring energy from one battery to another. Just my opinion.
Any suggestions? I'm looking for something that can do the quick charging in the car, is that even possible? Can it be done with a dual port so my wife and I can use the quick charger at the same time?
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-PowerIQ-Technology-Samsung-Motorola/dp/B00M43S18Y/ - Would this one support quick charging in the car?
Also,
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Extra-Premium-Android-Samsung/dp/B00NPP7TVU
This is basically the same cable that came with my S6 just longer correct? The included cable is too short to plug in near my night stand.
Any charger that is a 2amp charger... and any cable.. i have tried all my old cables on the s6 charger... all allow fast charge... and its charger is 2amp.... same as nexus 7 and all other newer devices... so just go with a 2 amp charger and enjoy the fast charge. And yes they make dual port 2 amp chargers... usually 1 port is 2 amp and second one is like 1 or 1.4amp... i have 2 cheap ones from amazon myself... will test them with the phone tomorrow and update you.
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Any charger that is a 2amp charger... and any cable.. i have tried all my old cables on the s6 charger... all allow fast charge... and its charger is 2amp.... same as nexus 7 and all other newer devices... so just go with a 2 amp charger and enjoy the fast charge. And yes they make dual port 2 amp chargers... usually 1 port is 2 amp and second one is like 1 or 1.4amp... i have 2 cheap ones from amazon myself... will test them with the phone tomorrow and update you.
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any cable will work, but not every 2.0A charger will work. i tested it with a 2.0A (not the Samsung one) charger and "fast charging" did not show up in the phone.
AFAIK, you have to use one of Samsung's OEM chargers or one capable of the Quick Charge 2.0 standard for adaptive fast charging.
OP, i only did a cursory search, but i found this dual Quick Charge 2.0 charger that might meet your needs: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TGD79X8?psc=1
Interesting, I didn't think to check for QC 2.0. I was thinking the Anker one did that. Thanks!
That being said though, anyone have experience with any of them with how they hold up?
Verizon sells one, it is their generic branding, it's the only one that I have seen or tried that is marketed that it is QC 2.0, works great even has a built in LED flash light basically. Sucks that it is $34.99 though.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/verizon-vehicle-charger-with-fast-charge-technology-for-micro-usb/
From my understanding Quick Charge 2.0 is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 (or newer) processor feature. The Galaxy S6 is running Samsung's Exynos 7420 processor which features Adaptive Fast Charging. I don't know how they vary in terms of performance, but I do know that when I plug in my Quick Charge 2.0, my S6 recognizes it as a fast charger. Battery went from 40% to 63% in 13 mins so I'm assuming both charging standards are compatible lol..
Try this car charger, worked great for my Qualcomm based phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VMP90A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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From my understanding Quick Charge 2.0 is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 (or newer) processor feature. The Galaxy S6 is running Samsung's Exynos 7420 processor which features Adaptive Fast Charging. I don't know how they vary in terms of performance, but I do know that when I plug in my Quick Charge 2.0, my S6 recognizes it as a fast charger. Battery went from 40% to 63% in 13 mins so I'm assuming both charging standards are compatible lol..
Try this car charger, worked great for my Qualcomm based phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VMP90A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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i'm reasonably sure it's the same standard. the Note 4 (Snapdragon 805) is listed on Qualcolm's website as compatible with QC 2.0. however, if you look at Samsung's website, it only lists Adaptive Fast Charging. Samsung just rebranded QC 2.0 as their own Adaptive Fast Charging. you can use all devices interchangeably.
also, the OP wanted a dual port QC 2.0 charger. that one only has 1 port w/ QC 2.0
I have already Anker 2 amp car charger in hand and i was thinking it wont be fast enough , i have seen video where quaclom demonstrated that Quick charging is faster than 2 amps charging , and judging by the fact that Samsung is providing comparable charging time with stock charger i was thinking that it is more than 5V 2.0 Amps .. too bad i am waiting for my phone to arrive.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00SJU6EIK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I just purchased this.
I purchased this one from amazon when I had my Note 4 and I can confirm it works great with the S6. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P9UILUM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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any cable will work, but not every 2.0A charger will work. i tested it with a 2.0A (not the Samsung one) charger and "fast charging" did not show up in the phone.
AFAIK, you have to use one of Samsung's OEM chargers or one capable of the Quick Charge 2.0 standard for adaptive fast charging.
OP, i only did a cursory search, but i found this dual Quick Charge 2.0 charger that might meet your needs: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TGD79X8?psc=1
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Yep. Your right sir. Just tried all my 2.0 / 2.1 amp chargers... not quick charging... guess ill grab some qc 2.0 amp chargers from amazon for car and backups.
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I purchased this one from amazon when I had my Note 4 and I can confirm it works great with the S6. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P9UILUM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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This is the one I was looking at, thanks!
I noticed in the LG v10 documents it states clearly that another charger will damage the battery.
The stock AC Charger only chargers @ 1.8a. That's not even Quick Charge 1.0 specs. So I'm trying to read past the marketing BS and see how many amps I can charge this phone on. QC 2.0 spec is 5v/3a. My old Samsung chargers are about 2.1 - 2.4a. as well as my car charger.
I don't see how this battery is any different and could be damaged by charger at slightly higher amps than the lowly 1.8a stock.
Also, has anyone found a screen protector in stock locally? I'm thinkin of going with a thinner plastic protector, made from Aliphatic, of course.
Quick Charge 2.0 changes the volts, it will change from 12volts to 9v back down to 5v
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LG V10 support qualcomm quick charge 2.0 technology, check here:https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2015/10/01/lg-v10-device-creative-adventurer
any of the chargers which list on qualcomm site should be ok for charging the LG V10.
if you said the stock charger is just 1.8A, then LG make some current limit in the LG V10. however, you can just talk the current. For quick charge 2.0 technology , you can get 9V volt when charging, total power is 9V/1.8A (16.2W).
@LancerV, in our test, most of the qc2.0 support device, the volt will keep at 9v in charging. we never seen any smartphone can support 12V volt, and in the whole charging, the current become small, but volt keep at 9V around.
see our charging analysis for different device here:
http://www.tronsmart.com/charging-analysis
If anyone who already get the LG V10, we would love to send free qc2.0 chargers for testing. Please just send us PM.
Thanks
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I just got my LG V10 from Verizon and I would like to test qc2.o chargers,how I can send you a PM (never done that before)
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I noticed in the LG v10 documents it states clearly that another charger will damage the battery.
The stock AC Charger only chargers @ 1.8a. That's not even Quick Charge 1.0 specs. So I'm trying to read past the marketing BS and see how many amps I can charge this phone on. QC 2.0 spec is 5v/3a. My old Samsung chargers are about 2.1 - 2.4a. as well as my car charger.
I don't see how this battery is any different and could be damaged by charger at slightly higher amps than the lowly 1.8a stock.
Also, has anyone found a screen protector in stock locally? I'm thinkin of going with a thinner plastic protector, made from Aliphatic, of course.
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I don't have mine yet, but I'm sure it doesn't state that, it should state something like 'may damage if not used with supplied charger', this is normal as all brands also state this.
also you can get a QUALCOMM QC 2.0 from many brands, and they all should work, I myself have one from aukey and a Xpower travel charger which work with even non QUALCOMM QC units.
I prefer to charge at normal speed, fast charging will probably kill your battery faster.
Qualcomm QC 2.0 chargers uses 12V/9V and 5V
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I noticed in the LG v10 documents it states clearly that another charger will damage the battery.
The stock AC Charger only chargers @ 1.8a. That's not even Quick Charge 1.0 specs. So I'm trying to read past the marketing BS and see how many amps I can charge this phone on. QC 2.0 spec is 5v/3a. My old Samsung chargers are about 2.1 - 2.4a. as well as my car charger.
I don't see how this battery is any different and could be damaged by charger at slightly higher amps than the lowly 1.8a stock.
Also, has anyone found a screen protector in stock locally? I'm thinkin of going with a thinner plastic protector, made from Aliphatic, of course.
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The LG v10 does not "Fast Charge" and Samsung 2.4 amp and other "Fast Chargers" do not charge the LG v10 any faster than a standard old iPhone cube. QC 2.0 is different and it's referred to as "quick charge" to differentiate it. Remember the phone will only draw as much as it can handle regardless of the charger's amp ratings, unless faulty or incompatible. Many incompatible chargers will charge the phone at the same rate from start to finish, keeping the battery warm, which may reduce battery life. YMMV
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I don't have mine yet, but I'm sure it doesn't state that, it should state something like 'may damage if not used with supplied charger', this is normal as all brands also state this.
also you can get a QUALCOMM QC 2.0 from many brands, and they all should work, I myself have one from aukey and a Xpower travel charger which work with even non QUALCOMM QC units.
I prefer to charge at normal speed, fast charging will probably kill your battery faster.
Qualcomm QC 2.0 chargers uses 12V/9V and 5V
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The best QC 2.0 charger I've owned and used is the ZeroLemon Charger. Phone wouldn't get too warm, and it would taper off towards the end, the phone was cool to touch. I also use Aukey, Motorola Turbo and Tronsmart home and car chargers that are both fast charge and have 1 qc 2.0 port.
All of my TYLT, Samsung, misc. 2.4 amp fast chargers charge the v10 at less than 1000 mA~
When connecting an LG v10 with low battery %, it charges at 9v~ from 2400-2850mA with main screen off. Rate depending on various factors, including quality of charger and cable, at start then tapers off at higher %.
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The LG v10 does not "Fast Charge" and Samsung 2.4 amp and other "Fast Chargers" do not charge the LG v10 any faster than a standard old iPhone cube. QC 2.0 is different and it's referred to as "quick charge" to differentiate it. Remember the phone will only draw as much as it can handle regardless of the charger's amp ratings, unless faulty or incompatible. Many incompatible chargers will charge the phone at the same rate from start to finish, keeping the battery warm, which may reduce battery life. YMMV.
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The V10 does have quick charging, not too sure if it's the qualcomm, the information is stated in LG V10 brochure.
28 minutes for 50% and 85minutes for 100%
I wonder if it has QC 3.0 capabilities, anyone know?
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The V10 does have quick charging, not too sure if it's the qualcomm, the information is stated in LG V10 brochure.
28 minutes for 50% and 85minutes for 100%
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Yes the v10 has quick charging. At least qc 2.0~ as long as your main screen remains off. 60-100mins for 100% is quick charge, remember it's only "QUICK" from 0-60% after that it's normal to save the battery from dying out too quickly.
Slow normal charge takes 3hours+ to get to 100% usually..
Update 7th May 2016:
I've tested the replacement but it isn't the same model, the new one has 1 QC 3.0 + 1 IQ port instead of the original 2x 3.0. It's this one
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01ALQWQFO/
This one is performing as I'd expect from 3.0 with multiple voltages between 5v & 9v & 1A with screen on whatever the temp.
They have now amended the product description of the original to highlight incompatibility with LG G5.
Update 3rd May 2016:
Quick update. I have been contacted by the seller & they say that, whilst the charger does meet QC 3.0 certification, they have identified that the "PD" chip is incompatible with the LG5. They have a new version they are sending me that should rectify this. I'll post an update once I've tested.
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AUKEY Quick Charge 3.0 Car Charger 36W Dual Ports for LG G5, HTC One A9, Nexus 6, iPhone, Samsung S7and more (Includes 1 Meter Micro USB Cable) - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01B5X35FM/
It says QC 3.0 on the charger but it is actually 2.0
Measured with an online voltage meter, it is only charging my LG G5 with 9v whereas my other QC 3.0 chargers output around 6v. Now this won't make much difference with screen off, with both charging at similar 3A rate, but when screen on, the 3.0 chargers output 1A but this only manages 0.3-0.6 depending on device temperature, exactly the same behaviour as other QC 2.0 chargers I have.
If you've bought 1 & it says 9v ish on a volt meter or you don't get 1A when screen on, it's not QC 3.0
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stuart0001 said:
AUKEY Quick Charge 3.0 Car Charger 36W Dual Ports for LG G5, HTC One A9, Nexus 6, iPhone, Samsung S7and more (Includes 1 Meter Micro USB Cable) - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01B5X35FM/
It says QC 3.0 on the charger but it is actually 2.0
Measured with an online voltage meter, it is only charging my LG G5 with 9v whereas my other QC 3.0 chargers output around 6v. Now this won't make much difference with screen off, with both charging at similar 3A rate, but when screen on, the 3.0 chargers output 1A but this only manages 0.3-0.6 depending on device temperature, exactly the same behaviour as other QC 2.0 chargers I have.
If you've bought 1 & it says 9v ish on a volt meter or you don't get 1A when screen on, it's not QC 3.0
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Interesting.... Especially since I currently have this charger on the way.
I know when I mount my phones to the windshield mount it get quite hot. Is it possible the is causing the circuit to reduce draw to protect from over heating? Have to tried contacting AUKEY about the issue?
I'll have to check it out once it arrives.
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Interesting.... Especially since I currently have this charger on the way.
I know when I mount my phones to the windshield mount it get quite hot. Is it possible the is causing the circuit to reduce draw to protect from over heating? Have to tried contacting AUKEY about the issue?
I'll have to check it out once it arrives.
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I was hot swapping several times between this & another 3.0 car charger. Without fail the other performed exactly as my AC QC 3.0 chargers & this just like my 2.0 ACs. In terms of mAh & voltage.
I'm just sending it back for a refund as can't be bothered getting into a to & throw with them. I'm actually a bit angry about it.
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I've decided to send an email to Aukey. Will update with their response.
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I've decided to send an email to Aukey. Will update with their response.
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I look forward to hearing what they say.
Mine hasn't shipped yet (I ordered a few things together from Amazon).
Aukey is a Qualcomm certified QC 3.0 brand. I was looking to buy the Aukey as well but evidently buying one for the expected results seems like buying a box of kiddy cereal looking for the last piece of a puzzle.......or visiting McDonald's for the missing Monopoly piece. Wow.
Did you use a usb 3 or usb 2 cable because this makes all the difference and most people don't know this.
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Did you use a usb 3 or usb 2 cable because this makes all the difference and most people don't know this.
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Not sure. It's the one that came with the G5 & gives me QC 3.0 voltages in 2 other chargers I've tried so guess it must be.
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I'll post my results as my Aukey Dual port QC 3.0 car charger ( as well as Aukey's dual port wall charger QC 3.0 and RAVPower 20100mAh Portable Charger with QC 3.0 & USB-C) arrives today, Wednesday 4/26/2016.
I'm going to have to check this out on my aukey car charger now...
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Mine arrived and checking with Ampere app on my LG G5 one port is giving me about 1400mA which is about correct. The other port read MUCH lower between 50mA to 550mA, that is waaaaaay to low.
My Nexus 6P though not a QC 3.0 still give me much higher reading in one port vs the other. I know Ampere isn't super accurate but the difference is too big.
I'll have to try again tomorrow.
Try anker or HCQS
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Try anker or HCQS
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I like Anker but haven't seen a dual car charger where both ports are QC 3.0 or a USB type see port and an QC 3.0 port.
So I did a quick test last night. I decided to ignore the Ampere reading and just charge my LG G5 from about 30 minutes (31 minutes actually). My G5 went from 49% to 89% in 31 minutes while simultaneously charging my Nexus 6 P (not A QC 3.0 device) from 43% to 62% in the same 31 minutes.
so it appears to work in actual use. I'll have to try again soon, but for now I think I'm ok with it and will trust my results more than the reading from the app.
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So I did a quick test last night. I decided to ignore the Ampere reading and just charge my LG G5 from about 30 minutes (31 minutes actually). My G5 went from 49% to 89% in 31 minutes while simultaneously charging my Nexus 6 P (not A QC 3.0 device) from 43% to 62% in the same 31 minutes.
so it appears to work in actual use. I'll have to try again soon, but for now I think I'm ok with it and will trust my results more than the reading from the app.
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In those circumstances you won't see any differences between QC 2 & 3.
A couple of ways to spot the difference
1. With an in-line voltage meter the QC 3 will output at various volts between 6&9v. The QC2 will show just 5 & 9v
2. With screen on & phone temp above 35c (to a lesser extent 32c) the QC2 will charge significantly slower than QC3
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Another update. I was running a stress test to warm the phone for more comparison & this charger couldn't even provide a net positive charge. When I swapped to another 3.0 (review up soon ), I was getting 1Amp charge again.
The extra voltage steps in QC3 definitely are a big advantage when phone under heavy load.
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Can anyone confirm that quick charge or LG fast charge only activates when batt is below 10% and fast charges it to 80% then normal charging happens up to 100%. I read that somewhere. Charging with the stock LG I expected it to be fast. But that was charging from 22%. I had to chance to charge from 5% and in 15 mins it was up to 30%.
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vizgor said:
Can anyone confirm that quick charge or LG fast charge only activates when batt is below 10% and fast charges it to 80% then normal charging happens up to 100%. I read that somewhere. Charging with the stock LG I expected it to be fast. But that was charging from 22%. I had to chance to charge from 5% and in 15 mins it was up to 30%.
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I get fast charge whatever percentage I start at.
3C reports 3A to about 60% then gradually tails off.
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vizgor said:
Can anyone confirm that quick charge or LG fast charge only activates when batt is below 10% and fast charges it to 80% then normal charging happens up to 100%. I read that somewhere. Charging with the stock LG I expected it to be fast. But that was charging from 22%. I had to chance to charge from 5% and in 15 mins it was up to 30%.
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As stated above, the percentage your phone is currently at shouldn't matter. The phone and charger will determine the best voltage and Amperage at witch to charge depending on current charge levels and temperature.
If you're batter is already at a high level it will slow down the charging to properly "fill" up the battery safely.
Having to be under 10% is ridiculous. I try to never let my phone get below 40% if possible, much less 10%.
Quick update. I have been contacted by the seller & they say that, whilst the charger does meet QC 3.0 certification, they have identified that the "PD" chip is incompatible with the LG5. They have a new version they are sending me that should rectify this. I'll post an update once I've tested.
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I picked up a T-Mobile V20 2 days ago. Rooted it the same night, and tested out a few chargers I had laying around to make sure the ones I had, along with cables, worked properly after having most everything not work properly with my Pixel XL.
The stock charger would not charge my phone at more than 3 watts (but I never touched the stock charger until I started noticing the issue).
A Samsung QC charger, with any cable, would not charge my phone more than 9 watts.
An Anker PowerPort+ 1, Type C, QC 3.0 charger, with any cable (to include Anker cables and the Pixel XL OEM cable), will not charge over 12 watts.
Absolutely NONE of my QC 3.0 car chargers register as "fast charging" - these include an iVoler Type C and USB A, Anker USB A, Tronsmart Type C, with various cables. A standard cabled Type C charger from i-Orange does not say "fast charging," but seems to be charging at 5V/3A as it is MUCH faster than all the others.
The ONLY charger that is fast charging my phone is the Pixel XL OEM charger. Measured at the wall, it has peaked at 19.2 watts.
I'm really confused. I don't know if my QC 3.0 has been defective since I got the phone, or if plugging my phone into the USB PD Pixel XL charger somehow screwed things up...
Does anyone have any ideas here?
All my old QC chargers work and I'm currently using the note 7 oem one atm as it does not get as hot (charger not phone) as the LG oem one under load. What does the app ampere say your getting?
It takes a while, try a very low battery and give it 10 minutes or more screen off, must be cool too
I got an existing aukey qc 2.0 fast charging fine while using a Samsung adaptive fast charger also fine, I am waiting for my qc 3.0 aukey one to be arrived possibly tomorrow to see if I could charge faster and lower temperature than my existing ones, I cannot check the watts though
My phone is either defective (not surprising given LG's GARBAGE quality control) or the software has somehow screwed up from root, etc. (highly unlikely as I am the only one with an issue).
With that said, I made an interesting discovery. My phone, using USB Power Delivery, charges much faster than my girlfriend's, using QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0. I tested this 2 times from 5% battery on both phones. I tested this with a QC 3.0 car charger and the OEM QC 2.0 charger. The difference is substantial... first test was about 40 minutes. My phone was near 80%, hers was at 55%. The 2nd test was only 15 minutes. Mine was near 40%, hers only 27%.
reaverclan said:
All my old QC chargers work and I'm currently using the note 7 oem one atm as it does not get as hot (charger not phone) as the LG oem one under load. What does the app ampere say your getting?
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Don't remember what Ampere says, but it was <500mA. Also, I used a USB current meter. It hovered around 5V/0.5A no matter what charger I used. I don't have a Type C/Power Delivery current meter, so I couldn't test those chargers... but USB PD is CLEARLY working very well on the V20. Much better than QC.
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It takes a while, try a very low battery and give it 10 minutes or more screen off, must be cool too
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It does not take awhile - takes <5 seconds to begin the QuickCharge process. Phone does not need a very low battery - will show fast charging regardless of the %. Does not need to be cool - fast charging is shown when the QC handshake occurs - not based on actual charging current. My girlfriend also has a V20. Every charger I tested with mine (which did not work), successfully QuickCharges hers.
Are you you using 56 k resistor cables?plus being rooted a kernel app would have a section to disable fast charge or enable it. Most devs disables by default. So if using custom kernel something to look in to. As I doubt there is anything wrong with your phone.
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Just got the aukey PA-T15 qc 3.0 seems fast charging fine though I have no time for a 0% to 100% test yet
Dark Jedi said:
Are you you using 56 k resistor cables?plus being rooted a kernel app would have a section to disable fast charge or enable it. Most devs disables by default. So if using custom kernel something to look in to. As I doubt there is anything wrong with your phone.
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All of my cables are good. No custom kernel, and I've never seen a dev disable fast charging by default... that would be very unpopular.
Anyway, it seems that LG's recent phones, to include the G5 and V20, are actually supporting both QC 3.0 and USB PD. This is also probably why QC 3.0 chargers that use Type C do not work (the Anker PowerPort+ 1 in my case). On a C to C connection, with USB PD present, USB PD will take precedence over QC 3.0 (since QC 3.0 is illegal with C to C anyway). But that still doesn't explain why my phone doesn't QC via USB A to C... so I'll chalk it up to LG's garbage quality control.
I'm glad it worked out this way. USB PD charges my phone WAY faster than QC 3.0 charges my girlfriend's V20. So I would suggest you all dump QC 3.0 (because it's non-compliant to anyway) and grab USB PD equipment since it's the way of the future anyway.
I'm starting to think that there's something wrong with the way V20 handles QC 3.0. I'm in a somewhat similar situation with you, tested three different QC 3.0 using almost 10 different A->C cable (including the OEM cable) and none of them would deliver QC 3.0 speed. (I just came in a from Axon 7 and the difference between charging speed is night and day).
Additionally, I wish there's an app to properly identify what's going on during charging.
Using the built-in battery test from Service mode (see screenshot), it always says that I'm on QC 2.0 whenever I'm charging using QC 3.0 chargers.
My unit (LG-H990DS) is charging very quick though.
Using stock charger & cable, charging time is very consistent from 0 to 100%. 95 mins is all it takes.
yluxion said:
My unit (LG-H990DS) is charging very quick though.
Using stock charger & cable, charging time is very consistent from 0 to 100%. 95 mins is all it takes.
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The stock charger that LG sent with the V20 is actually a QC2.0 unit.
and with QC3.0, it'll take you less than an hour to fully charge.
baymon said:
The stock charger that LG sent with the V20 is actually a QC2.0 unit.
and with QC3.0, it'll take you less than an hour to fully charge.
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Original Charger
Aukey QC3.0 Charger
Both results are similar.
So now LG V20 under utilise the Aukey QC3.0?
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Original Charger
Aukey QC3.0 Charger
Both results are similar.
So now LG V20 under utilise the Aukey QC3.0?
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I can't say for sure, because I have no way to get a baseline on how fast a QC 3.0 charger charge at the correct QC3.0 rate on the V20....
At least according to the battery test from the service mode menu, none of my QC3.0 chargers are being recognized as QC3....and it definitely doesn't charge as fast as 3.0 based on my previous experience with axon 7.
on The Axon 7, I can still be playing Mobius FF (which is very battery intensive) and still charging up at about 1% per minute.
I'm pretty sure our phone doesn't have QC3 as I just mentioned in another thread. I'm like.. 97% sure? I remember reading early on that it was QC2, and a blend of LG that got it a little more robust than that. I'm not sure all of what's required for QC3 to work, obviously the 820 SOC supports it, but, not sure why I read that we don't have QC3.,
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I'm pretty sure our phone doesn't have QC3 as I just mentioned in another thread. I'm like.. 97% sure? I remember reading early on that it was QC2, and a blend of LG that got it a little more robust than that. I'm not sure all of what's required for QC3 to work, obviously the 820 SOC supports it, but, not sure why I read that we don't have QC3.,
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Yeah, I'm starting to believe that's the case now. I just updated the thread btway, now they're saying that 3.0 isn't enabled by LG.
Not sure this is the case of Tmo employee not knowing their sh*t or what.
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Yeah, I'm starting to believe that's the case now. I just updated the thread btway, now they're saying that 3.0 isn't enabled by LG.
Not sure this is the case of Tmo employee not knowing their sh*t or what.
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FWIW, I have a couple of Aukey chargers. One is QC2, and one is QC3. They both "fast-charge" my phone, but I don't think I get the fastest charge on anything but the LG adapter. Usually it's fast enough for me, but I guess if I was 10-15% left, and I needed 100% in less than an hour, it might not happen.
I just picked up a US996 (Unlocked V20)... and found this site while trying to make a decision on buying new chargers, cables, etc.
I opened a chat with LG to ask them if the V20 supports USB-PD... and I got this response:
Merwin
Not that we can verify, Ryan we because we have not tested it. I highly suggest you to use the OEM charger of the V20.
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So... no help from Merwin @ LG. It seems they're not allowed to comment on it, and can only recommend the OEM charger. I was unaware that it was only QC2.0, according to the testing above.
Has anyone done more testing since? Can I buy a USB-PD charger and C-to-C cable? Should I avoid QC3.0?
Thanks
I'm interested in this as well having bought 2 QC3 chargers and neither charge my phone as fast as QC3 advertises.
I have used my brothers stock Nexus 6p charger from Google and the times are about equal to my QC3 chargers I bought
I'm using a Samsung QC 2.0 charger for mine:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-TA20JWE-Travel-Charger-Devices/dp/B00TEUVEIO
I use it because I lost the LG one. It does quick charge but I can't measure the rate in the service menu. It just stays blank.
This is real easy, it happens with qc 3 on my v20 and s8+
The phone does not quick charge when the battery is warm or when the screen is on. Its really that simple. You can get faster charge times using a qc 2.0 charger or a dumb 18 watt adapter. Neither one is as picky about sending power to a warm battery, but your batteries life will be shorter than it was designed to be.
QC 3 will charge a cold empty battery faster, but in real life, it will preserve your battery over fast charging the phone.