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Android Wear - A preproduction?

I'll make no excuse for the title as it seems to fit quite well for how I feel about it.
About two weeks ago I purchased a Sony SW3. Lovely watch and kindof does what I want BUT.... Android wear seems little more than a proof of concept.
At the risk of infuriating AW fans, here are some of my observations:
- I turn gestures off, but the watch still turns itself on when I turn my wrist, this is intermittent behaviour but this can't be rocket science to fix and I'm on V5!
- Was travelling somewhere strange the other day and I routinely add the address of where I'm going to my diary entry (Google calendar). When I was reminded to leave, I was offer the opportunity to navigate there, but I was using a train for most of the journey so only wanted to use navigate when I got the the end station. Call up the 'agenda' entry on my watch, can see the entry, can see the address, but do you think I could get the navigate function to work... NO, touching the address didn;t work, voice commands didn't recognise the foreign restaurant name, and I had no way of entering the address manually! Arrgh
- Cards/notices appearing. What a lovely feature, each time I get a message, email or whatever, my watch lights up and buzzes. Really? Ok I can see that some will find this useful, but really I want to gentle reminder , eg a buzz and if it's convenient I'll see what caused it by switching it on. A bit like theatre/Cinema mode, but I need the vibration to alert me... What I don't need is the thing lighting up every time I get a 'notice', draining the battery and telling everyone who can see! I get quite a few messages and find it strange this feature has not been considered/withdrawn by now. In fact the only useful time the watch should light up is an incoming call so I can see who and accept/reject.
- Whilst on the subject of rejecting a call, why doesn't it offer me the option of rejecting and sending a text message at the same time, a bit like you can when you reject a call on the handset.... Seems an obvious feature really.
- OK Google, doesn't launch applications I've downloaded, eg: I downloaded from the apps store a compass application. OK Google, compass - it gets me info on a company called compass!
- OK Google, Natigate to (insert a name of a contact)... Brings up a linkedin profile....
OK, rant over and I'm happy to concede that it may be my ignorance that I am frustrated so I'm happy to be correctly by fellow early adopters.... Or am I not alone

You've done the same mistake as all wear beginners when it comes to gestures. Forget that setting in watch menu and instead investigate wear companion app settings closer.

Hi thanks for the advice. Just searched the store but couldn't find anything. Suggestions appreciated?
Iain

The wear companion app is the app on your phone which you connect to your phone via. Click cog wheel. Click watch name. Untick tilt to wake option.

When I tell my watch to navigate to somewhere, a beautiful Maps shows up and gets me there... I think you are too fast at judging A.Wear Take time to discover it!
Install Android wear mini launcher also.

Android Wear is built to be minimal - it compliments your phone, it's not supposed to replace it. It just decreases the amount of times you have to pull your phone out of your pocket.
The Apple Watch is the one that's supposed to "replace" your phone in more instances. It's more complicated.
Android Wear is for quick replies, information, and helpful tools.
Welcome to the team by the way!
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So, the recommendation I have heard over and over again is in order to increase battery life, disable the features that make the watch useful. Tilt to wake is important, and disabling it on the sw3 does not significantly improve battery life. There are problems with this software. I am on my third watch, and still after a lot of tweaking only get 24 hours (when I am lucky) per charge. This watch is supposed to last over two days. When I am not lucky, I get two hours on a charge.

lekofraggle said:
So, the recommendation I have heard over and over again is in order to increase battery life, disable the features that make the watch useful. Tilt to wake is important, and disabling it on the sw3 does not significantly improve battery life. There are problems with this software. I am on my third watch, and still after a lot of tweaking only get 24 hours (when I am lucky) per charge. This watch is supposed to last over two days. When I am not lucky, I get two hours on a charge.
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Yeah. battery life was great on 5.0.2 We just have to wait until the next update, which both sony and google have said that they are working on.
Recharge once a day, and on unplugging, restart the watch. Many people have reported this gives the best results. FWIW I have all options turned on, and as long as I'm not hit with the bug, battery life is about what it was before 5.1.1.

Interesting, but...
Thanks everybody for your thoughts.
Firstly, I have tried switching off motion gestures using the Phones Wear application, but there wasn't an independent setting. I therefore downloaded a third party 'advance setting' application. It offered me more choices but didn't make a blind bit of difference.
Secondly, gestures are a personal thing so I'm not speaking for everybody. As I've already said I don't want the watch switching on every time I turn my wrist (my lifestyle is to active and I find it switching on when I'm doing something rather than when I want to read the time or message) or when I get a message (as I said before I want to choose when I read my messages and I don't want anyone close by to A) see I've got a message and B) be able to read the subject and who it's from). In addition battery life is, for the foreseeable future, a finite resource and all this switching on will reduce the battery life of the watch so it really annoys me that a simple setting 'Gesture OFF' is being completely ignored. I would also vote for 'Cinema mode, including vibrate'..
Thirdly, Yesterday, not for the first time, my battery drained itself in about half a day so I had to recharge the watch by about 3pm. But this time it was a little different. First thing in the morning I noticed the watch struggling to connect to my wifi, it would connect and then connect and then connect. Before anyone jumps on me saying there a problem with my wifi, there are about 10 devices that connect to my wifi and none of them get a problem. In addition I have more than one access point by different manufacturers and the watch has access to two different access points. Security is by password AND MAC address. This got me thinking. Is the wifi chip going into overdrive when it's not connected to an access point and draining the battery? I can't say for sure, but I did notice that the other days the battery suddenly drains is when I'm out and about so it may have been attempting to attached to all the access points when I'm walking about... Only a theory, but what does everybody else think?
Iain

Yea. Drain is somewhere between decent and awful depending on setup. I get two days out of mine.
Gestures is not the same as "tilt to wake". Gestures are let you interact with Google cards by flipping your wrist. Tilt to wake is what you're after. It does just what it says and is turned off in the wear companion app on your phone. The app is called "android wear" and in the app you press a cog wheel symbol, then press the name of your watch. They're you'll find three check box settings.
Always-on screen (eats your battery like omnomnom)
Tilt to wake screen (the one you're after)
Show Google cards (shows notifications on watch)

Two days?
Wow you're getting two days out of your battery, I can only dream...
Actually I'm not being truthful with the above. After my discovery with WiFi yesterday, I turned it off today. But for good measure, I switched screen on, to on.
It's been 18 hours off charge and the battery still has 56% left... OK it's not quite a day yet and as with all testing needs to be conducted over a few days but what a difference, even better considering your comment about the battery drain with the screen on!
Thank you for the tip re tilt to wake, I've now turned it off so in theory that should improve the battery life still further.
If today's results become consistent over the next few days it'll pretty conclusive that there's a problem with the WiFi.

I tried tilt to wake for a day. It went on all the time. Always on is so dim I can't see the watch anyway. I use tap to wake with highest brightness
I've just started to try gestures. I wanna see if it's a gimmick or actually useful.

WiFi to blame
OK, is been two nearly three days since I switched WiFi off.
In that time by the end of the day (with the watch face always on) I've been left with between 50% to 25% depending on actual use. Given that it sometimes would run out of battery by 3pm this is a great improvement and highlights that there are serious problems with the WiFi implementation.
I'm now happy I purchased

I like the tilt to wake but I notice it comes on a lot. Especially when I drive at night and my whole car lights up. I like the tilt features for scrolling through notifications. I wish there was one for dismissing, but that would probably lead to missed cards.
My LG G Watch is pretty much ready for a charge by the end of the day.
Sadly my hopes for a smart watch was to save battery life on my phone, but I am finding that bluetooth on all day tends to yield me the same battery life as if I just pull my phone out each time. Overall i love the watch for when I am in the pool and busy at work.

I agree!
Tilt to wake is problematic and poorly thought through as there are way to many scenarios where it activates when not required.
I can see the logic behind moving through cards via tilt but for me I continue to switch this off as well as I find it's very easy using my other hand and there are not many time I can't do that unless driving, but then, I shouldn't be reading my messages when driving anyway... : -)
Also since turning WiFi off, after 18 hours off charge I normally have between 30-40 battery left so the battery life has stabilised.
Now looking forward to the next Sony smart watch that should be release in November.

Latest update of the port to Samsung gear 2 allows for screen always on for two workdays. I can go with that. On my wishlist now is dismiss card gesture.

I actually like the gestures. With them on, I easily go through a day. On the weekends I can see me turning it off just to conserve battery. But I use it to turn on the screen and flip through notifications all the time, and seems pretty consistant. It always does what I want when I want. The problem is it comes on when I dont want.
If the watch had an AMOLED, you could fix this by using the same black face for both ambient and active modes.
I really like the Gear S, but hopefully the 2nd gen Android watches include some of the same features. Honestly all I need from the LG G Watch is a speaker and I'd be set.

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I'm using Sony Z ultra and really want to buy SW3 for more option. Howere, when i see your review, i'm a little bit dissapointed:crying:

Depends
I can understand your disappointment, but I'm not disappointed as I consider it to be new technology and I was keen to get in early and I expected some issues.
For my part, I'm now very happy with my purchase and Amazon in the UK are now selling it at just under £100 so I also believe good value.
I am however, beginning to wonder if Wifi is the cause of the battery drain. Whilst I haven't had Wifi on since my first observation I'm thinking now it is probably a shirt sleeve activating the watch when I'm not aware and thats draining the battery very quickly. It's early days at the moment, but on two occasions I've been out and wearing a coat, on both occasions the battery was dead by the time I got home. Today I went out and wore a coat but switched cinema mode on... Battery perfect! Needs some more testing, but....

lekofraggle said:
So, the recommendation I have heard over and over again is in order to increase battery life, disable the features that make the watch useful. Tilt to wake is important, and disabling it on the sw3 does not significantly improve battery life. There are problems with this software. I am on my third watch, and still after a lot of tweaking only get 24 hours (when I am lucky) per charge. This watch is supposed to last over two days. When I am not lucky, I get two hours on a charge.
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When have ever beats any manufacturer of a watch our phone give realistic battery life specs.

Exit Review

I'm returning my t-mobile V10, and just wanted to put some various ramblings and personal opinions here for anyone who's considering this phone. If you already have the phone and you like it, carry on. It's a pretty good phone, all around.
I was coming from a note 3, so I really wanted to keep the 5.7" screen. When it's in immersive mode, it's great, but one thing I didn't account for is that because it has no hardware home/menu/back buttons, the navigation bar takes up some of the screen size. The screen quality seemed fine, and the auto brightness was really quite good. Other than showing pictures to someone, I never found myself needing to take it off auto and increase the brightness.
The second screen seems like a really good idea. Unfortunately, due to a couple of issues, I found myself turning my phone on/unlocking anyway and wishing it had a notification LED instead. The second screen seems to shut itself off after it's been in your pocket/the dark a few minutes, and doesn't turn back on until you push the power button. At least on my unit, there's a lot of light bleeding (not confined to the second screen rectangle) that was disturbing. It's great being able to see graphics on the second screen, which is about twice the size of the notification bar, meaning you can see contact pictures when someone texts you instead of just their name, etc. The brightness on the second screen is far too low, and it doesn't appear to be adjustable (though when the device is on, the brightness is linked to the main screen's brightness, and looks good). Straight on, it's readable but from any kind of angle, the brightness wasn't enough to keep it readable and provide at-a-glance look at the date/time and waiting notifications. I understand part of the idea is lower battery consumption, but again, I found myself turning my phone on and unlocking it rather than trying to make out what was on the second screen.
It seems to be plenty fast, I didn't try any high-end games on it but it appeared to have no problem with me using it while it auto-updated 5-6 apps at a time, which was a very pleasant surprise. The UI is great, but it's not really laid out like i'd prefer, but I didn't get the feeling that the UI was slowing me down. Overall, the UI is a lot better than I thought it would be.
Battery life was mediocre. I probably would have bought the zerolemon extended battery, but it was out of stock at the time. The fast charging was great, but I had a small amount of anxiety about where my next charge would be coming from.
The camera seemed to take great pictures, but i'm not a photographer nor do I pretend to be.
I didn't notice any changes in cell signal between my note 3 and the V10, but I was told the V10 had something significant to pickup the signal better. I didn't notice it in 2G or 4G/LTE, but didn't really encounter 3G. Having said that, it wasn't terrible, just not an improvement.
The speaker was nice and loud for both music and calls.
I didn't even attempt to deal with the bloatware, rooted immedaitely and I tried cm12 but the second screen didn't work (without a notification LED, the second screen working is a big deal for me), and settled on the deodex/debloated rom. Now that i'm returning it, being able to flash it back to stock and relock the bootloader is awesome.
I hope this was helpful to anyone looking at this device.

Why return such an awesome device?
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Phone is laggy, any ideas?

Hey guys, I bought my A9 yesterday, it would be a great phone, but scrolling is laggy. It can even stutter for a bit in Settings, not even mentioning some websites and apps. And multitasking doesn't work at all sometimes. I just went to the phone's settings from a very simple website with no pictures for 10 seconds, and it reloaded. Sometimes it works better.
It must be the optimization right? I'm already running the latest firmware available for my phone, but it was released in, like February. Comparing to my previous SD800 phone, it opens up apps the same time etc, but these two bugs ruin the user experience for me, I don't think that the SoC is that much weaker. Is there a faster, previous firmware to use? I immediately updated after setting up the phone. And since I've read many feedbacks that said there aren't any lags, I thought something is wrong on my side.
Thank you for any suggestions.

Hi man, restart thé phone recover 90% problem
But when I have the same lag, I use "high performance MOD" in devlopper setting for 5 minute and the lag gone.

Thanks, but is this tolerable with a high price phone like this? I mean, it shouldn't act this way. When I use the phone from idle, it opens up things pretty fast, without a lag. But when I'm using it as I should (not killing apps, etc), it goes a bit crazy, even the lock screen animation lags.

my htc A9 speed test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=dEsjk68kq28

XPERIA XA battery unable to charge while in use

Hello all,
I've recently bought an Xperia XA and have been satisfied with the device itself, i know its a new phone and we could await some updates, but what i encountered last night made me create an account here and ask.
I was low on battery, basically 1% and attached it to the charger i received with the phone itself, thus the phone goes into normal mode no battery saving or stamina, nothing and no third party apps installed for it. I started browsing Instagram, through google chrome, and even though the phone was charging it couldn't get up even 1% for the time I was on it, basically 30mins almost.
Now, your thoughts, I see on the forums the battery drains fast, cannot basically use it without stamina mode, but do you think that this is 'normal' or should I go back and ask for a different device?
Do you think the updates to the system itself will solve the problems in the future? I was on an Xperia M2 before and was really satisfied, battery lasted whole day no stamina mode, no problem. And from the specifications I read its supposed to have a good battery(XA).
Thank you,
Friction

Friction117 said:
Hello all,
I've recently bought an Xperia XA and have been satisfied with the device itself, i know its a new phone and we could await some updates, but what i encountered last night made me create an account here and ask.
I was low on battery, basically 1% and attached it to the charger i received with the phone itself, thus the phone goes into normal mode no battery saving or stamina, nothing and no third party apps installed for it. I started browsing Instagram, through google chrome, and even though the phone was charging it couldn't get up even 1% for the time I was on it, basically 30mins almost.
Now, your thoughts, I see on the forums the battery drains fast, cannot basically use it without stamina mode, but do you think that this is 'normal' or should I go back and ask for a different device?
Do you think the updates to the system itself will solve the problems in the future? I was on an Xperia M2 before and was really satisfied, battery lasted whole day no stamina mode, no problem. And from the specifications I read its supposed to have a good battery(XA).
Thank you,
Friction
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Not sure about the charging but one thing I never do is use a device whilst charging, there is a known wifi bug that doesn't let the device reach deap sleep on the original firmware are you on the latest firmware version as the wifi bug is fixed and there's a new kernel aswell apparently I also recommend either a factory reset or software repair once latest firmware is available. How is it compared to the m2 as I'm making the same upgrade next week all being well and I'm following everything closely it's a stunning looking device only had a few brief goes with one don't know whether to get black/charcoal one or lime gold one

aidy.lucas said:
Not sure about the charging but one thing I never do is use a device whilst charging, there is a known wifi bug that doesn't let the device reach deap sleep on the original firmware are you on the latest firmware version as the wifi bug is fixed and there's a new kernel aswell apparently I also recommend either a factory reset or software repair once latest firmware is available. How is it compared to the m2 as I'm making the same upgrade next week all being well and I'm following everything closely it's a stunning looking device only had a few brief goes with one don't know whether to get black/charcoal one or lime gold one
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The current build number is 33.2.A.2.35 and I did do a factory reset since the update but didn't help much. For eg I've taken it off the charger this morning @ 6.00 and haven't been using it much, a couple of viber messages and pictures taken, one short call (under 1 min) basically its on my desk while I'm at work, only chatting with my gf a bit. And it dropped right now to 40% . And it is in Stamina mode, with optimization disabled for viber and whatsapp.
*edit call quality way better than m2 forgot that*
Now compared to the M2, hands down like going from a zastava car(serbian) to a benz i'd say, works flawlessly, the camera both front and back is better than expected, zoom is nice, design and aluminium body are perfect with slight screen curvature. It says mid range but certainly doesn't feel like it. Only issue beside the battery is finding accessories for it, screen protection or casing, at least in Serbia, as it is brand new, most people in shops haven't even heard of it.

Friction117 said:
The current build number is 33.2.A.2.35 and I did do a factory reset since the update but didn't help much. For eg I've taken it off the charger this morning @ 6.00 and haven't been using it much, a couple of viber messages and pictures taken, one short call (under 1 min) basically its on my desk while I'm at work, only chatting with my gf a bit. And it dropped right now to 40% . And it is in Stamina mode, with optimization disabled for viber and whatsapp.
*edit call quality way better than m2 forgot that*
Now compared to the M2, hands down like going from a zastava car(serbian) to a benz i'd say, works flawlessly, the camera both front and back is better than expected, zoom is nice, design and aluminium body are perfect with slight screen curvature. It says mid range but certainly doesn't feel like it. Only issue beside the battery is finding accessories for it, screen protection or casing, at least in Serbia, as it is brand new, most people in shops haven't even heard of it.
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Only cases I've seen myself are genuine Sony ones, a shell type and the leather flap type screenprotectors try mediadevil the best non tempered glass ones I've found been using them on my M2 for a while

XZ Bugs & Issues

I am experiencing some issues & bugs on my XZ mainly:
1. Bluetooth turns on after turning off Airplane Mode
2. Screen turns hazy or whitish (when on a dark theme) all of a sudden
3. Some notifications are still getting through (popping out from the top screen) even when i turned them off under Settings and within app (Read: Viber ad Google+)
4. NFC tag seem very fragile and I fear it might come off anytime especially when you put it in your pocket everyday.
5. Screen on time is just over 5 hours. Is that a good number?
I bought my phone 48 hours ago from brand new.
Any comments & advice please. Cheers.

Gino76ph said:
I am experiencing some issues & bugs on my XZ mainly:
1. Bluetooth turns on after turning off Airplane Mode
2. Screen turns hazy or whitish (when on a dark theme) all of a sudden
3. Some notifications are still getting through (popping out from the top screen) even when i turned them off under Settings and within app (Read: Viber ad Google+)
4. NFC tag seem very fragile and I fear it might come off anytime especially when you put it in your pocket everyday.
5. Screen on time is just over 5 hours. Is that a good number?
I bought my phone 48 hours ago from brand new.
Any comments & advice please. Cheers.
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Point 4. Are you referring to this small round sticker in this picture http://www.mobil.se/sites/mobil.se/files/Xperia-X-06.jpg?itok=vDZ4wN7A
If so, then that is no more then a sticker simply as an indication to the user when they first take the phone out of the box - that this is where the NFC chip is located within the phone and not on the back as traditionally it might be.
Therefore you can remove this sticker, as your now aware where the NFC chip is located on the device.
Without that sticker users would naturally assume NFC was on the back of the phone thus you'd think NFC isn't working. Hence the polite sticker is simply to inform you that it's actually on the front. I repeat you can remove and rubbish that sticker.
If I've assumed incorrectly then I apologise.

Gino76ph said:
I am experiencing some issues & bugs on my XZ mainly:
1. Bluetooth turns on after turning off Airplane Mode
2. Screen turns hazy or whitish (when on a dark theme) all of a sudden
3. Some notifications are still getting through (popping out from the top screen) even when i turned them off under Settings and within app (Read: Viber ad Google+)
4. NFC tag seem very fragile and I fear it might come off anytime especially when you put it in your pocket everyday.
5. Screen on time is just over 5 hours. Is that a good number?
I bought my phone 48 hours ago from brand new.
Any comments & advice please. Cheers.
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1. Different issue with bluetooth, I can't disable it sometimes - I have to reboot the phone to do so. Disabling from Settings doesn't work either
4. Just a sticker as above
5. Battery lasts me usually day and a half, with Spotify playing for ~ 4 hours, some photos, youtube, fb, whatsapp etc. I do have the brightness on 25%.
I have the phone for over 5 months now, and its been nothing but great.
I previously had K800i and the X8 and loved both of those devices. If there's one thing i would change on this device, is the active display so i can see the clock on the phone without waking it up ;p

I do not know how and why you are managing a day & a half with your XZ. Did you root it? I have done almost all known battery saving tip under the sun (apart from rooting) and I'll be lucky if it lasts until midnight from a full day's of use. Obviously your usage is different from mine but I had different phones in the past 2 years but my usage and apps have not changed and still finding Xperia phones to be poor in the battery life segment. And my XZ is brand new when I bought it.
The 2900mAh simply isn't cutting it. The phones that I had in the past which I can confidently say have a properly optimised software and more than great battery life were the Galaxy A5 (2016 model) and the Moto G4 - they can lasts well until 10 or 11 pm before I go to sleep and still have at least 20-30% battery left without charging midday. I'll be lucky if I get more than 5 hours of SOT on my XZ. And I'm only on my third day of usage.

No, I have not rooted my XZ, I can't unfortunately - its completely locked :[
Today is an exception actually as I charged it over night yesterday - used it whole day and today it still has 70% xD
I was sooo surprised with how long the battery lasts after I come over from Galaxy S6 - which ate through the battery in 3/4 of the day

hoozy123 said:
No, I have not rooted my XZ, I can't unfortunately - its completely locked :[
Today is an exception actually as I charged it over night yesterday - used it whole day and today it still has 70% xD
I was sooo surprised with how long the battery lasts after I come over from Galaxy S6 - which ate through the battery in 3/4 of the day
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So, how can you explain my XZ having a SOT of just under 5 hours after doing almost all battery saving tip out there?
My old Moto G4 and Galaxy A5 2016 had the same number of apps and tasks everyday (I'm talking about 6-9 months ago) would still have a good 30% juice by 9pm without charging.
I'm still baffled.

If I knew, I would tell you buddy.
Here's what I've got: Latest Stock Customized UK - SD Card in, WiFi On 24/7, Restarting the phone every 24 hours
Disabled: Amazon, AR eff, avg, clock widg, creative effect, docs, drive, email, g. movies/music/hangouts, tips, ebooks, lifeblog, creator, music, news suite, photo widget/editor, playstation sheets, sketch, slides, sticker, tags, talkback, burst, top contacts, video, tv sideview, vide editor, world clock, camera add-ons, international keyboards, lounge pass and xperia tips.
Other: disabled notifications for whats new, disabled google now, brightness on 25% - auto brighness disabled.
Installed: FB, messanger, outlook, microsoft auth, bank app, caroo, kaspersky, here maps, mx player, one drive, root expl, shazam, spotify, skype, snapchat, steam, whastapp, adobe acrobat
Typical usage: fb/messanger/whatsapp/snapchat couple of times a day, spotify (bluetooth) + caroo while driving to and back from Uni (25 minutes each way), youtube while at uni (up to hour) (hehe). This leaves me between 40% and 50% at the end of the day.

Now, I need to know what do you exactly mean by "end of the day"? Is it just after work at 5pm? Around dinner time (7-8pm) or by the time you sleep (10-11pm)?
These are my daily routines (weekdays normally due to work):
1. Using Location Services/GPS (read: walking navigation via Google Maps and bus/train times using CityMapper) on & off from 9am till 2pm.
2. Twitter and Instagram notifications turned off and i manually check updates when I only open the app
3. Viber and WhatsApp notifications turned off and i manually check messages when I only open the app
4. BBC News, BBC Weather, Wikipedia
5. Auto Sync IS turned on but manually turned off individual app notifications & sync within app
6. Dark background on everything including wallpaper, lockscreen, app drawer & keyboard.
7. Third-party launcher installed.
8. Vibration, Printing turned off
9. No dubious, not well know anti-virus or memory cleaner installed
10. All radios turned off
By 9pm I'll be lucky if i still have 30%.

Day starts around 9am/10am and ends around 11pm.

Bug that goes on my nerves is that sometimes when i push the power button to unlock the phone, my wallpaper shows without widgets or anything instead of lockscreen.
Pressing power button to turn off display and pressing it again to unlock goes to lockscreen as it should the first time.
It happens occasionally, i haven't found a pattern when it does and the bug persists from my Xperia X and now on my XZ.

Gino76ph said:
So, how can you explain my XZ having a SOT of just under 5 hours after doing almost all battery saving tip out there?
My old Moto G4 and Galaxy A5 2016 had the same number of apps and tasks everyday (I'm talking about 6-9 months ago) would still have a good 30% juice by 9pm without charging.
I'm still baffled.
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Hey -- I've got the US version of the XZ (no fingerprint scan - sux) and I get great battery life as well. I immediately disabled location tracking, removed Facebook and disabled all sound enhancements (I use ProAmp for media, which is great and loud). I don't keep GPS on. I do use the XReality video enhancing, but manually control the brightness (using the auto, I've heard, uses too much battery).
I don't run any battery management software and I pretty much make sure all apps are closed (by clearing all from the recently used icon) after I use them.
Unfortunately, the US version doesn't stock the battery optimization feature either, so I'm kind of stuck with the battery as it arrived, so I'm glad it's working out.
Sorry if any of this is redundant info; but hope some of it is useful. The phone, IMHO, rocks!

All your info are helpful and (hopefully) we can learn something even for a thing or two and wish Sony will be listening.
I could turn off Sync to further extend battery life but i'm worried that some of my important data might be "compromised" i.e. Google Calendar reminders won't be updated or Google Keep saved notes won't be updated. True?

hoozy123 said:
1. Different issue with bluetooth, I can't disable it sometimes - I have to reboot the phone to do so. Disabling from Settings doesn't work either
4. Just a sticker as above
5. Battery lasts me usually day and a half, with Spotify playing for ~ 4 hours, some photos, youtube, fb, whatsapp etc. I do have the brightness on 25%.
I have the phone for over 5 months now, and its been nothing but great.
I previously had K800i and the X8 and loved both of those devices. If there's one thing i would change on this device, is the active display so i can see the clock on the phone without waking it up ;p
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Does your phone bend slightly? Lay it on flat surface and press each corner to find out

linkzex said:
Does your phone bend slightly? Lay it on flat surface and press each corner to find out
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there is a thread about this... https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/help/little-bit-bent-twisted-xperia-xz-6-t3589172
final conclusion is that XZ uses plastic material for the frame and its probably prone to bending but a good thing is that if ur XZ gets twisted in ur pockets u can always bend it back to flat i know i tryed. i think Sony made a good move by choosing solid plastic...when it comes to durability i think plastic is better cuz its more shock absorbable then metal, plus its also better for antena signal... just remember what Nokia phones were able to withstand...

cocagenda2 said:
there is a thread about this... https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/help/little-bit-bent-twisted-xperia-xz-6-t3589172
final conclusion is that XZ uses plastic material for the frame and its probably prone to bending but a good thing is that if ur XZ gets twisted in ur pockets u can always bend it back to flat i know i tryed. i think Sony made a good move by choosing solid plastic...when it comes to durability i think plastic is better cuz its more shock absorbable then metal, plus its also better for antena signal... just remember what Nokia phones were able to withstand...
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So your phone did bent?

linkzex said:
So your phone did bent?
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yes it did and i noticed that after 10 days since i bought it and i emediatly went to waranty to tell them about it and they couldnt do anything cuz they claimed that this bending damage can be coused by me of course...i told them that this is a design fail but u know them they only want to argue with u...i think at the end its nothing bad after all...this is the first smartphone wich has bending ability heheh a joke

cocagenda2 said:
yes it did and i noticed that after 10 days since i bought it and i emediatly went to waranty to tell them about it and they couldnt do anything cuz they claimed that this bending damage can be coused by me of course...i told them that this is a design fail but u know them they only want to argue with u...i think at the end its nothing bad after all...this is the first smartphone wich has bending ability heheh a joke
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Thanks for answering. Not a funny joke tbh. How severe is it, can you post an image?

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Nope, its completely flat.

hoozy123 said:
Nope, its completely flat.
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How long have you been using it? Do yo use a case? Do you carry it in a tight pocket?

linkzex said:
How long have you been using it? Do yo use a case? Do you carry it in a tight pocket?
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Since November 2016.
Always in jeans pocket, not extremely tight but always in that pocket while driving etc...