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Seven (push email), Tilt and WM6.1

Anyone here using Seven on their Tilt with the new ATT Rom?
I've been using it for about 2 weeks just fine with no problems whats so ever. Now since flashing my ROM I started having issues.
The two main ones are that messages are not getting marked as read back on the server side and that composed messages are not being sent.
Anyone else here seeing this?
I am running the official ATT WM6.1 ROM.
Thanks
David

texas said:
Anyone here using Seven on their Tilt with the new ATT Rom?
I've been using it for about 2 weeks just fine with no problems whats so ever. Now since flashing my ROM I started having issues.
The two main ones are that messages are not getting marked as read back on the server side and that composed messages are not being sent.
Anyone else here seeing this?
I am running the official ATT WM6.1 ROM.
Thanks
David
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Might be better re-asking in the Kaiser Software forum and getting the Mods to close this one.
Ta
Dave

reasked in the Kaiser forum, Mod pls close this thread.
Thanks and sorry for the mis-post.
David

I am using Seven on my TyNT II now and it's working fine.
However, I don't know if you all know that when you setup an email account to SEVEN, your phone automatically sends an sms to an England number +447624802625, which will charge you an international sms. This will happen when you add one and every email account. Here is the confirmation from SEVEN:
abackholm - SEVEN's Site Admin said:
First of all, thanks for everyone supporting SEVEN in participating the beta program. Your efforts have continued to help our software reach higher quality and become more reliable. Sincerely, being a non-commercial offering that does not earn SEVEN a dime, we sometimes put you in a difficult spot: the setup is not necessarily optimized for the end user, but rather to maximize feedback and exposure SEVEN gets for various features and setup configurations.
In this case, we want to test the phone number validation using SMS.
(1) In production deployments we need user's phone number (instead of IMSI) to be able to send SMS triggers that wake up the client so that there is no need for always-on data connection - to conserve bandwidth and battery.
(2) In production deployments the SMS would be zero-rated, but that's unfortunately not an option in the beta program as operators are not participating with beta testing in their mind. In such deployments, there is no need for multiple SMS-to-HTTP gateway numbers, and thus our setup only supports using one at a time. As the beta program is global in nature, majority of users will always have to use an international number.
I apologize for inconvenience this causes. I realize that those who need to reinstall the client very frequently are especially vulnerable. However, I'd like to remind that participation in the beta program is entirely voluntary.
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And luckily some solution has been found:
Hi guys, the problem is over for me as I found a trick for this. There are two ways:
1. I just install and run SEVEN with an OUT-OF-MONEY SIM so that it could not send any international sms. I don't know if you have this in your country or not but here we have 2 different accounts for one SIM, the main account and the promotion account. With the promotion account we can use most of the sms, 3g, gprs, phone services but not international sms/calls and value-added services (like buying ringtones, games etc), and the main account covers those things. So I've tried a SIM without money in the main account and everything goes great though it could not send an international sms. When I put my other SIM in, it does not request me to activate Smile
2. I've tried to install and run SEVEN without a SIM, and turn the wifi on when I add emails. SEVEN requested me to input my phone number and I did it. Then when everything is done I just insert my SIM in, and everything worked fine, no more international sms.
Cheers!!!
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I can add that I have just disabled the phone connnection and connected via wifi when adding an account. This also works.
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You can find more information from here:
http://community.seven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2749

real voice over wifi

I many forums, people say that nothing is developed for voip. There are several solutions, but they all channel the voip over the GSM/voice channel (iSkoop, Skype lite). See also: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Android+VOIP
Obviously we get double charges: 1) we pay the VOIP fee and 2) the minutes.
So my questions:
1) Is there any hardware issue that would compromise voip?
2) If not what is the state of the development? Is there anything in the horizon?
3) Since the market place is not the only way of distributing content for Android, how could TMo/Google avoid independent developer to create a "real" voip application?
4) How hard would it be given what is available in terms of development?

voip
i use skype, and i have found out a way to get around all the fees....
so.. here it is.
setup skype, and i pay yearly, then skype dials the same number ever time, so i put that number in myfavs. ta-da!

I use UMA over wifi. There are two ways of doing it with T-Mo, one is $9.99 for unlimited ([email protected]), and the other way is just making calls while connected to wifi. That way uses your minutes, but doesn't have a monthly fee.
Unfortunately the G1 isn't UMA enabled, so I got a cheap Samsung for UMA calling.

I love the internet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Igo7brlRo
Release date in May. Cheers everyone, real voice over Wifi is coming!!!!

Since I am at it, here's the link to the company that ported mjsip to android:
http://blog.roychowdhury.org/2008/03/10/we-have-sip-working-on-android/
Cheers

aad4321 said:
will it work over 3g/edge?
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Yeah, that's a very good question. I think the guys in the vid used only wifi (from what they say).
I see one big problem with VOIP over 3G: carriers. They will never want you to use Voip on the go because this would hack their major cash flow (the GSM fees).
For voice over WIFI, that may be less of a problem. If you look at Skype on the iPhone, you can give a call over wifi without using your minutes. In other words, Skype received the blessings from ATT and Apple. Let's hope T-Mo blesses all of us too!

Want app to auto set forwarding...

I honestly didn't know if this should be in Developing Forum, or Apps forum. I presume apps forum is for existing apps.
I want to be able to have my phone (Captivate) forward automatically based on where I am at. I had accomplished that on my old WinMo phone two different ways:
1.) Originally I got Mort Script (scripting tool for WinMO), and wrote a script based on time to auto forward the phone. I needed to find the correct app to call to do the forwarding (I'm on AT&T, and it is done in their network, as opposed to just dialing a number and enter the forwarding number). Found that with the help of another great forum on XDA.
2.) Then I learned of Phone Alarm which could do that based on cell tower, wifi, GPS, etc. Loved it.
I am told by the authors of Locale that it cannot be done becaue of inbuilt security on Android. This leaves me thinking the only way I may accomplish this is with a script.
Anybody know of a way to accomplish this? Or may be writing an app to do it?
I am installing Setting Profiles now, but I'm sure it doesn't have that capability build in either. (Well, pretty sure. I'll explore).

Check here: this might be to your needs.
http://lifehacker.com/5599116/how-to-turn-your-android-phone-into-a-fully+automated-superphone

Thanks. I'll check it out, and post back what I find.

TASKER... http://tasker.dinglisch.net/index.html
I have been using it a few days now and the possibilities are limitless. There is a wiki that has recently started growing with tutorials and profiles.
I have used to to perform several actions that items from the market require a purchase to do.

We're referencing the same thing

I have downloaded it, and it looks great. I"m not sure it will do the forwarding I want, but a nice tool anyway. I had downloaded Setting Profiles just before starting this thread, but it isn't near as strong as Tasker.
I'll have to search for the Wiki.

SIP dialing for Gingerbread 2.3 Discussion

In reviewing the new page on the nexus s, the only thing I really am interested in is the internet dialing/SIP. I have tried SIPdroid on the captivate, and it works ok, but very staticy on the other end. I am curious as to whether anyone knows where the SIP client for 2.3 came from. Is it SIPdroid? Did Google buy SIPdroid? I would also be very interested in flashing only the SIP part of Gingerbread 2.3, the rest of the update isnt all that interesting to me. If anyone comes across info or files related to this, post here.
Thanks

Benny1234 said:
In reviewing the new page on the nexus s, the only thing I really am interested in is the internet dialing/SIP. I have tried SIPdroid on the captivate, and it works ok, but very staticy on the other end. I am curious as to whether anyone knows where the SIP client for 2.3 came from. Is it SIPdroid? Did Google buy SIPdroid? I would also be very interested in flashing only the SIP part of Gingerbread 2.3, the rest of the update isnt all that interesting to me. If anyone comes across info or files related to this, post here.
Thanks
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Google bought Gizmo5 about 1 year ago. This is probably where they got the SIP client.

From what I read on the official document, internet calling works via wifi only.
I hope and i'm sure the devs will modify this to make it work via 3G.

A few things:
1) You are using VoIP over 3g? It's probably not goind to sound great, and any free client you have is not going to implement g729 b/c it requires a license so GSM is your best bet for low bandwidth, and it doesnt sound great.
2) a. No it is not sip droid. b. Sipdroid sucks - it is a terrible client. Basically the PBXes.org people who "wrote" sipdroid took the example "client" from mjsip and jammed an android interface on it. The backend sip implementation is pretty crappy, doesnt support call transfer, does multiple registrations and can flood a registrar.
2) CSipSimple is a much more promising client (IMO). And while has not yet implemented transfers yet, it is based on pjsip, a very well implemented sip stack that does fully support these features. Also, I have found that CSipSimple has less fuzzy audio too.
3) I have been looking at the 2.3 SIP stuff - It's not like you can just take that part from 2.3 and "flash" it to your device.
Besides that, the implementation that is in the 2.3 SDK looks very simplistic so far - and it is unclear to me whether or not the dialer will allow native SIP calling, or if google has just put in sip libraries for people to develop SIP applications. I see no where in any settings that allow you to specify "phone wide" sip credentials.
This would seem to be further backed by the sample "walkie talkie" application that is available with the 2.3 sdk.
4) I doubt google bought gizmo5 for their sip stack/client. There are many highly compliant open source sip stacks freeley available: sofia-sip, pjsip, jain-sip etc. etc. I dont know what is "under the hood" but what google has exposed via the SipProfile so far looks to be sub-par.
5) "Internet calling" support isnt going to be enabled on all devices, although i think the nexus s probably will be one of the few, in fact even in the AVD I get an "internet calling not supported" message when I try to call a sip URI from the dialer.
Your best bet right now - try out CSipSimple. Native SIP support is going to be a bit raw for a while is my guess.

SIP dialing
Thanks etamme ! Thats some good information! Yeah I would like to use SIP for international calls, wifi and 3G data. I use the phone when we travel and have foreign sims. So making GV /G5 calls would be perfect. I used to use an iphone, but unlocking became a PITA recently. (read as 6.15.00 BB)
Will check out CSSipSimple, I assume it will work with G5. I'm glad someone else realizes Sipdroid is terrible. Every time I use it the other party complains. With all the updates theyve done they have failed to address a major problem.
Thanks again!

have you tried this?
i'm trying it now
http://androidandme.com/2010/12/news/how-to-place-and-receive-internet-calls-with-android-2-3/

Benny1234 said:
I am curious as to whether anyone knows where the SIP client for 2.3 came from.
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Gingerbread has a built-in SIP stack.

etamme said:
A few things:
1) You are using VoIP over 3g? It's probably not goind to sound great, and any free client you have is not going to implement g729 b/c it requires a license so GSM is your best bet for low bandwidth, and it doesnt sound great.
2) a. No it is not sip droid. b. Sipdroid sucks - it is a terrible client. Basically the PBXes.org people who "wrote" sipdroid took the example "client" from mjsip and jammed an android interface on it. The backend sip implementation is pretty crappy, doesnt support call transfer, does multiple registrations and can flood a registrar.
2) CSipSimple is a much more promising client (IMO). And while has not yet implemented transfers yet, it is based on pjsip, a very well implemented sip stack that does fully support these features. Also, I have found that CSipSimple has less fuzzy audio too.
3) I have been looking at the 2.3 SIP stuff - It's not like you can just take that part from 2.3 and "flash" it to your device.
Besides that, the implementation that is in the 2.3 SDK looks very simplistic so far - and it is unclear to me whether or not the dialer will allow native SIP calling, or if google has just put in sip libraries for people to develop SIP applications. I see no where in any settings that allow you to specify "phone wide" sip credentials.
This would seem to be further backed by the sample "walkie talkie" application that is available with the 2.3 sdk.
4) I doubt google bought gizmo5 for their sip stack/client. There are many highly compliant open source sip stacks freeley available: sofia-sip, pjsip, jain-sip etc. etc. I dont know what is "under the hood" but what google has exposed via the SipProfile so far looks to be sub-par.
5) "Internet calling" support isnt going to be enabled on all devices, although i think the nexus s probably will be one of the few, in fact even in the AVD I get an "internet calling not supported" message when I try to call a sip URI from the dialer.
Your best bet right now - try out CSipSimple. Native SIP support is going to be a bit raw for a while is my guess.
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Running Gingerbread right now...I can tell you that "Internet Calling" works straight from the dialer. However, my experience with built in SIP over wifi on Pbxes.org is that cSipSimple is more usable. There is a noticeable lag using the built in SIP configuration and only UDP works for PBXes since it doesn't allow a hybrid mode like cSipSimple (TCP for registration, UDP for connection due to PBXes incomplete TCP implementation). The problem I have with cSipSimple is that the mic gain is way too high and it picks up all the background noise.

Benny1234 said:
In reviewing the new page on the nexus s, the only thing I really am interested in is the internet dialing/SIP. I have tried SIPdroid on the captivate, and it works ok, but very staticy on the other end. I am curious as to whether anyone knows where the SIP client for 2.3 came from. Is it SIPdroid? Did Google buy SIPdroid? I would also be very interested in flashing only the SIP part of Gingerbread 2.3, the rest of the update isnt all that interesting to me. If anyone comes across info or files related to this, post here.
Thanks
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Looks to me that it is based on JAIN-SIP from inspecting the AOSP source. Have look at http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/external/nist-sip.git;a=tree;hb=HEAD
JAIN-SIP was developed by NIST and the AOSP references NIST also. Haven't dug deeper to confirm however.
etamme said:
A few things:
3) I have been looking at the 2.3 SIP stuff - It's not like you can just take that part from 2.3 and "flash" it to your device.
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What would it take to extract the SIP bits from the AOSP and use it as a reference library for a SIP enabled application? I have never tried but it should be possible no?

Wrong mic (top)
OCedHrt said:
The problem I have with cSipSimple is that the mic gain is way too high and it picks up all the background noise.
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You can set the mic gain:
While in a call, click the menu button (bottom left)
Select Media
Move the Mic slider left to lower the volume (quickly before the screen goes back to default).
However, this does not really solve the problem because cSipSimple uses the mic on top of the phone which does not pick up your voice very well, and pics up the sound from the receiver (speaker) causing the person on the other end to hear an echo of everything they say.
I have not been able to find a way to change this behavior.

anyone having an issue with phone calls being rejected with sip dialing? I've tried sipdroid, csipsimple and native sip. using google voice forwarding a number i recieved from ipkall, and using iptel.org instead of pbxes

[Q] Japanese Email system and language change

Ok first off if this is the wrong place to post this I apologize but I tried searching and can't find anything about my phone.
I just purchased a Toshiba Regza phone from AU in Japan. I have changed the regional settings to English and all the menus and mostly everything is in English but the problem I am having is that the email program that everyone uses here to send instant email back and forth is still in Japanese. I have contacted AU KDDI about this and they say there is no way to change the language to English from within the email program itself. My wife is Japanese and she has looked at every setting within the email program itself and cannot find any language settings.
As far as I have found out, the "email" system here in Japan is actually a MMS messaging system on steroids that uses an email address instead of the other persons phone number like in the US. I think a very long time ago some of my friends in Japan had email addresses with there phone number(at)docomo.ne.jp
I have looked on the marketplace and I can't seem to find anything that will work with the AU system.
Does anyone know if there is an app that can replace the stock email program to send and recieve email with my xxxxxxxx(at)ezweb.ne.jp? If there is where can I find the settings for AU's email system? Do they use IMAP. POP or because it is MMS it is totally different?
I love this phone, the camera is awesome the screen rez is really great watching 1 seg TV and the video quality is great. I really don't want to have to do anything to it that will brick it because it's brand new and my wife would kill me LOL Only thing is I cannot use the email program to it's fullest extent.
thanks for taking the time to read this and for any help you might provide.

Unfortunately there is no fix or alternative, as carriers in Japan have their mobile mail services tightly locked down and you require their express authorisation to develop an application for it.
The mail application for the IS04 is as bad as it gets, as are various other software related aspects of the phone... which is a shame because otherwise it's quite a capable device.
Hopefully issues like this one will be addressed at the same time as the rather late 2.2 update, but I wouldn't keep your fingers crossed.
I've been trying to extract the carrier mail application from other the au android devices and modifying it so it can install/communicate with au's servers on the IS04, but I've gotten nowhere with the security.
In case you run into any other trouble, other problems people have had with the IS04 include battery charging issues (phone runs off battery once it reaches 100% and never starts charging again, even while plugged in), contact list problems (multiple and non interchangeable contact lists for different applications), various settings resetting themselves (aforementioned mail application mainly), lost emails/contacts and weird memory restrictions (for storage).
For the record, DoCoMo's version of the Regza phone (and their other Android devices) use a relatively decent universal phone mail application, while au has gone with letting the manufacturers put together their own. I'll let you work out which decision turned out better.
In the meantime, I suggest having your wife translate the settings so you can have it up and running the way you like, and then just memorising the basic navigation and functions.
Edit: To answer your question, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the weird MMS system for all three major carriers in Japan is still using the I-mode transport protocol.

just FYI:
2013 is around the corner and with Android 2.2.2 now (still) on the Regza IS04 nothing has really changed much.
The mail app - and other default apps - are still in Japanese only and will not be changed.
The general feedback from their tech support is: Learn Japanese or get lost (though said very politely, with smiles and bows and not in such a direct manner )
Have a great 2013 all