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Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
Sprdtyf350 said:
The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..
dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
hogasswild said:
The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing
I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...
Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.
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...famous last words...
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.
Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom
I just got my Xoom yesterday, and obviously brand new to it, and Android.
100% stock, and it's staying that way.
Charged it up first, turned it on, set up the wifi and all the normal setup stuff it has you go through. Checked settings and it said the version was 4.0.3, so I told it to check for updates, which it did, and it said 4.0.4 was available, so I told it to get it. It downloaded it, and something came up on the screen about installing and restarting, which I did. Screen went black for a bit, then it said something about booting into Android recovery, then went dark again....then I think the next thing that happened was there was a little Android robot on the screen, and then it switched to another view of that robot, kind of laying on it's side, with like an access door open on it's back, and there was a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. It stayed like that for a bit, black again, and then it rebooted, and seemed normal. But, it still says it's 4.0.3, and if I tell it to check for updates, it says I have the current version.
Did something go wrong? Did I do something wrong? . It seems odd it said it found 4.0.4 and installed it, and it still says 4.0.3
I even tried this manual method or forcing 4.0.4:
1. go to setting / apps then hit the all button at the top
2. scroll down to google services framework and then press it to open
3. hit the clear data button
4. go to settings / about phone / system updates (you will notice the date will be 1969 or 1970 this is ok )
5. hit the check now button
6. xoom should show you the 4.0.4 update avalaible
7. hit install and enjoy
no luck with this either.....have done it more than a half dozen times too.
FWIW, it is a U.S. version, and I do live in California, if any of that matters.
Any feedback greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
As far as I know, 4.0.4 update started rolling out in the US but it seemed not to be fully yet OK.
So you have 3 options.
1) wait for another OTA update. It might take a longer while.
2) root your xoom and flash custom rom ics 4.0.4.
3) live with 4.0.3
And by the way, custom rom is way way much better and robust than stock. I personally rooted my xoom the minute I unpacked it. Pretty easy.
Here on xda community, we ye d to help each other if you know what I mean. To start, we need to know your xoom type, wifi or 3g...
Welcome to the xoomers section
Sent from my MZ601 using Tapatalk 2
wesamothman said:
As far as I know, 4.0.4 update started rolling out in the US but it seemed not to be fully yet OK.
So you have 3 options.
1) wait for another OTA update. It might take a longer while.
2) root your xoom and flash custom rom ics 4.0.4.
3) live with 4.0.3
And by the way, custom rom is way way much better and robust than stock. I personally rooted my xoom the minute I unpacked it. Pretty easy.
Here on xda community, we ye d to help each other if you know what I mean. To start, we need to know your xoom type, wifi or 3g...
Welcome to the xoomers section
Sent from my MZ601 using Tapatalk 2
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It's the Wifi version, and the person at Motorola said that 4.0.4 was out and available.
I'm not rooting it.
I tried that with a Kindle Fire with help form this forum, and it went south and got bricked beyond repair..........just not in the mood with a $350 tablet, no matter how easy it is.
I appreciate your reply though.
Hi, it is your call at the end of the day, although it is really straight forward and pretty easy to root your xoom mz604. Anyway, if you decide later on the road to do so, we are more than happy to help you, Xoomer
I'm in the same boat as you man... I get that red triangle all the time. I'm 100% stock too
Same issue: another thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697802
vinnyt225 said:
I'm in the same boat as you man... I get that red triangle all the time. I'm 100% stock too
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Yep, me too.....100% stock.
I sent the other one back to Amazon, got my second one today, and same thing, right out of the box. At first start up, right after setting up wifi, it says update available 4.0.4
It downloads and verifies it.
Press install and restart, it does that little robot animation for a few seconds, and right to the screen with the robot laying on his back with the red triangle with the exclamation point.
Motorola acts like they haven't heard of this much. Hah!
And the only thing they offer is to send a box to send it back to them, to flash it. Yeah, I want to send in my 3 hour old device that has an issue right out of the box!
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Hi, it is your call at the end of the day, although it is really straight forward and pretty easy to root your xoom mz604. Anyway, if you decide later on the road to do so, we are more than happy to help you, Xoomer
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It's not that I'm not thinking of it, it's just that I tried all that with a Kindle Fire with help from people here, and it went completely south, mainly due to a computer crash right in the middle of it. Long story short, I'm going to try it again on the KF, but I bought this because it's more of what I would essentially turn the KF into, and it's more money. I got a good deal on the KF, so I took the risk, I know it's not that hard, I just had a bad experience that left me with a bad taste in my mouth over the whole thing. I'll try the Kindle Fire first, not this.
On that note, I'm assuming there is a good guide to follow for rooting and/or flashing the Xoom, yes?
How can I get netflix to run on a zeki tablet. I have flashed it so it will now run google play but I can't seem to get netflix
nolan1945 said:
How can I get netflix to run on a zeki tablet. I have flashed it so it will now run google play but I can't seem to get netflix
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I also have google play flashed and google voice search.
I downloaded netflix and it installed without errors yet when I open it, it shows a black screen for a second and then closes. I still see it under the open apps window and clicking on it also goes black and closes.
I have seen postes saying it works bit is laggy but I can't eve get into it.
So I would like to BuMp this thread to a solution!
Netflix & Zeki's
Yep, we're all hitting the issue and I'm getting it exactly as you describe!
Apparently it's a Netflix update to ICS and they're fully aware of it, it's not
ZEKI's doing as far as I can find. I personally love this tab, picked up the
10" because the 7" were near impossible to find since they're both on
sale right now.
I'm still digging, but I'm reading several bits on alternate download sites
as the version from the Google Play store could be buggy enough to be
our entire problem. This includes downloading it from an alternate
Netflix site and from Amazon's store instead. Checking the revision #'s
to see if there's any difference...
The Netflix alternative download for US on ICS ONLY: tinyurl.com/nflx180
[Sorry Noob settings restricting URL's are good and stupid at the same time ]
Gotta do that from the browser on the tablet! Suck it down and make sure
you've not only removed the other version you have but get into your
Downloads area(s) and make sure any apk's are gone too so it doesn't
confuse anything!
I'm attempting both fixes now, alternate first, I'll post anything I find.
works great!
The Netflix alternative download for US on ICS ONLY: tinyurl.com/nflx180
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Via --- PSCGOhio
Works great for me! Thanks a lot!
thanks from an android noob
PSCGOhio said:
Yep, we're all hitting the issue and I'm getting it exactly as you describe!
Apparently it's a Netflix update to ICS and they're fully aware of it, it's not
ZEKI's doing as far as I can find. I personally love this tab, picked up the
10" because the 7" were near impossible to find since they're both on
sale right now.
I'm still digging, but I'm reading several bits on alternate download sites
as the version from the Google Play store could be buggy enough to be
our entire problem. This includes downloading it from an alternate
Netflix site and from Amazon's store instead. Checking the revision #'s
to see if there's any difference...
The Netflix alternative download for US on ICS ONLY: tinyurl.com/nflx180
[Sorry Noob settings restricting URL's are good and stupid at the same time ]
Gotta do that from the browser on the tablet! Suck it down and make sure
you've not only removed the other version you have but get into your
Downloads area(s) and make sure any apk's are gone too so it doesn't
confuse anything!
I'm attempting both fixes now, alternate first, I'll post anything I find.
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This is my first tablet. Thought I broke it. Thanks loads.
Netflix & Zeki's
Glad it worked for both of ya! I had some connection issues I finally got over but it does fly.
I bought the 10" because the 7's were long gone but I love the extra USB on it and graphics upgrade
so I don't regret the upgrade one bit. I'd found the ad, then went and researched the $99 sale model
before I just ran out and blew money. All the reviews I found said this was the most factory-made
hackable unit out there and while there's been some quirks it's rooted out of the box and ready for
anything. Just like my Samsung Instinct, it's all in learning the hack process and sideloading with
APK's frmo various sources. It's all out there, just a matter of finding it and patience in loading it
properly.
More stuff I find I'll make sure I update here on XDA!
Thank you
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Glad it worked for both of ya! I had some connection issues I finally got over but it does fly.
I bought the 10" because the 7's were long gone but I love the extra USB on it and graphics upgrade
so I don't regret the upgrade one bit. I'd found the ad, then went and researched the $99 sale model
before I just ran out and blew money. All the reviews I found said this was the most factory-made
hackable unit out there and while there's been some quirks it's rooted out of the box and ready for
anything. Just like my Samsung Instinct, it's all in learning the hack process and sideloading with
APK's frmo various sources. It's all out there, just a matter of finding it and patience in loading it
properly.
More stuff I find I'll make sure I update here on XDA!
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Thank you for fixing Netflix for me too!! But I have a question that you may be able to answer.
I have a TB782B FID:CF Android 4.0.4 out of the box
- but am unable to get to recovery screen. Was there a hardware change since these postings? I was able to get into safe mode just not the recovery - tried holding vol up power then tried vol down power just boots to normal android screen. Any thoughts?
Whoops!
dbsii8 said:
Thank you for fixing Netflix for me too!! But I have a question that you may be able to answer.
I have a TB782B FID:CF Android 4.0.4 out of the box
- but am unable to get to recovery screen. Was there a hardware change since these postings? I was able to get into safe mode just not the recovery - tried holding vol up power then tried vol down power just boots to normal android screen. Any thoughts?
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Sorry about that! Somehow it didn't send me the update e-mail so I knew this was here and
I just found it...
I've always followed the instruction threads here on XDA for stuff like that and it's never failed - IF I
read the whole post with replies and didn't skim. I've done that before and nailed myself.
I'm not aware of anything Zeki ever changed, they have somewhat stagnated on development
and upgrades/improvements so I've pulled the new versions from here instead of them, lot
more stable too and allows things here to work far better. The hardware I think came from a
factory overseas with multiple names on it since I've seen hardware with the same internal
stuff but some other Mfg. name on it. All based on the same core and internal chipsets tho.
The buttons are a PIA, sometimes too long is as bad as too short so ensure you try at
various lengths and see if you get lucky, then note that for the future. I think I wasn't doing
it long enough and I mean I was holding it a long time for me even!
It's my first Android tablet. Decided to have a go at rooting it. All went well until I installed KatKiss 4.4.4. Couldn't connect to wifi at all, although could connect fine with the laptop.
A tablet without the internet is barely worth using, so I decided to try going back to a stock ROM and that's where I managed to totally brick it. Can't boot up into recovery, can't get past the Asus screen with the rotating icon.
Somebody gave me this tablet for nothing, and I really don't want to tell them I wrecked it permanently. This forum is my last hope 'cos I'm outta ideas and fed up to the back teeth with this. I can't even turn the wretched thing off.
Just to add, the tablet was originally from Canada, although I'm in the UK. Didn't really know what firmware version to install, so I tried the WW (WorldWide) one - obviously the wrong choice. It's buggered up everything.
Edit: Hey guys, I got recovery back >_>. Can't post links as a new user, but Frederuco's guides on the Transformer forums really helped me out. Decided to go back to KatKiss rather than risk bricking my tablet all over again. Still have no wifi connection, but oh well. For now... >_>
joch1 said:
It's my first Android tablet. Decided to have a go at rooting it. All went well until I installed KatKiss 4.4.4. Couldn't connect to wifi at all, although could connect fine with the laptop.
A tablet without the internet is barely worth using, so I decided to try going back to a stock ROM and that's where I managed to totally brick it. Can't boot up into recovery, can't get past the Asus screen with the rotating icon.
Somebody gave me this tablet for nothing, and I really don't want to tell them I wrecked it permanently. This forum is my last hope 'cos I'm outta ideas and fed up to the back teeth with this. I can't even turn the wretched thing off.
Just to add, the tablet was originally from Canada, although I'm in the UK. Didn't really know what firmware version to install, so I tried the WW (WorldWide) one - obviously the wrong choice. It's buggered up everything.
Edit: Hey guys, I got recovery back >_>. Can't post links as a new user, but Frederuco's guides on the Transformer forums really helped me out. Decided to go back to KatKiss rather than risk bricking my tablet all over again. Still have no wifi connection, but oh well. For now... >_>
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Was about to suggest Easyflasher for unbricking, but since you already managed, check Settings > WifI > Menu 3 dots > Advanced
make sure the Wifi regulatory domain is set correctly for your country
Hi all,
Just bought a tablet off amazon not too long ago, Kingpad K70 (tabletexpress is the company), and I have been trying to find a way to root it. I have tried the various methods like Chainfire, Towelroot, and others, but still unable to. It is running kitkat 4.4.4, says model number is as KINGPAD K70. Any insight or assistance would be great! I also have stock .img file from company, as version on website did not work.
Thanks all,
angrynapkinz said:
Hi all,
Just bought a tablet off amazon not too long ago, Kingpad K70 (tabletexpress is the company), and I have been trying to find a way to root it. I have tried the various methods like Chainfire, Towelroot, and others, but still unable to. It is running kitkat 4.4.4, says model number is as KINGPAD K70. Any insight or assistance would be great! I also have stock .img file from company, as version on website did not work.
Thanks all,
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Try rooting with the following android apps.
Root Master
z4root
Universal Androot
Easy rooting toolkit
Framaroot
Thanks for your quick reply!
I tried all of the .apk files with no success so far but soon I will try the last one and update!
Well tried last one (root toolkit) on two different computers, both just waiting for device, Windows 8 had some compatibility issues, and my desktop, windows 7 automatically reinstalls the driver, and won't allow me to update to ADB device oddly.
Any insights?
Thanks
Same problem
I got the k70 with the rk3128 and NEED TO ROOT as well. I asked the customer service people at tabletexpress, and they weren't much help. I bought it off of amazon, and the title said it was compatible with 3d games... and the lie detector test determined, THAT WAS A LIE !!! no real racing, no dead trigger, no fast and furious, no temple run of any kind. I was lied to. The tablet is a POS to me, but could be better if I could root it. I googled til my brain was all googled out and found NOTHING. So now my only option it to complain and bother people here, amazon, and the customer service at TabletExpress for selling me such a POS tablet:good:
Forgot to update! Use kingo root, took a while but worked, and then I just installed rom toolbox and deleted kingos bs. Still don't like their Android edit, so if you find a workaround for cfw let me know!
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Forgot to update! Use kingo root, took a while but worked, and then I just installed rom toolbox and deleted kingos bs. Still don't like their Android edit, so if you find a workaround for cfw let me know!
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updated: okay, I downloaded kingoroot on my computer. I hooked it up. Had the usb debugging on. wifi is on. I had it recognize the tablet once and it gave me the options to unroot and reroot. I chose reroot. it failed. So im trying to go again, but this time to unroot, then root, however i cannot get it to connect anymore, it keeps saying the tablet is offline! So im pretty sure im missin somethin here.... its sayin its offline, and i read that im supposed to "tick always allow from this computer" to avoid this problem. where would i find this prompt? how do i get to it? also, its not rooted[i checked with root checker] i dunno why it gave me the options unroot/reroot
SUCCESS!!
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updated: okay, I downloaded kingoroot on my computer. I hooked it up. Had the usb debugging on. wifi is on. I had it recognize the tablet once and it gave me the options to unroot and reroot. I chose reroot. it failed. So im trying to go again, but this time to unroot, then root, however i cannot get it to connect anymore, it keeps saying the tablet is offline! So im pretty sure im missin somethin here.... its sayin its offline, and i read that im supposed to "tick always allow from this computer" to avoid this problem. where would i find this prompt? how do i get to it? also, its not rooted[i checked with root checker] i dunno why it gave me the options unroot/reroot
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:good::good: for you. I got around the "offline" thing by deleting the kingoroot app off the tablet, then proceeding normally. I did the unroot, but it failed, however it did remove some stuff that made my first reroot fail. So after I unrooted and failed. I rebooted the tablet, deleted the kingoroot app again, and proceeded to reroot. This time the reroot worked!! thank you angrynapkinz:good::good: hey, one more question, what apps to you recommend for this tablet. maybe something for the battery and the overheating. I also couldnt figure out how to play 3d games on it without it crashing
Try China Devices
is cwf custom firmware? Im not that experienced with flashing new ROMs, and it seems that most people here are about the brand name stuff. I was googling cfw's and found nothing except for this forum website that "specializes" in chinese tablets like the kingpad/dragontouch (pretty sure theyre all the same) i think the webmaster makes cfw's or if he doesn't, he'll find out. Thanks again for the root help:good:
Hey harlow, yea I meant custom firmware, the KitKat that they have loaded is obviously rooted previously, you'll notice the more you use it. I installed xposed installer and root browser's etc on it for battery monitoring and all, malwarebytes keeps picking up malware loaded into the tablet and every time I delete. It's reinstalled upon reboot so that's why I'm trying to figure out rom reflashing/cfw options. Still trying to figure out what to add and what not though so take your pick and let me know also what seems to work. I went search and found its been mix and match from forums.
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Hey harlow, yea I meant custom firmware, the KitKat that they have loaded is obviously rooted previously, you'll notice the more you use it. I installed xposed installer and root browser's etc on it for battery monitoring and all, malwarebytes keeps picking up malware loaded into the tablet and every time I delete. It's reinstalled upon reboot so that's why I'm trying to figure out rom reflashing/cfw options. Still trying to figure out what to add and what not though so take your pick and let me know also what seems to work. I went search and found its been mix and match from forums.
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Yeah the kitKat they got on there is no comparison to the OG one on my cheap ass LG L70. I did malwarebytes and avast and found nothing on it so i guess im lucky. Im using Nova Launcher because it looks nicer and functions better. And theres this thing in the Google Play store called Root Booster. idk if you heard of it but you can set your tablet onto one of three modes: Speed, Battery, and Stock. Im on Speed right now, and it boosted the RAM about 50mbs. (I still cant play real racing on it tho) Have you taken the back off yet??? I cant figure it out!! I wanna replace the battery with something with bigger nuts... The stock one is garbage. I can squeeze about 5 hours out of it. Maybe ill glue on some heat sinks onto the chips, it gets really hot when im netflixin. So ill keep an eye out for the cfws. Have you tried reflashing with the stock one they got on tabletexpress? i havnt tried that, but maybe it wont have malware on it?
Yea it sucks, haven't found an alternative yet and still trying to figure this thing out. I had to flash one they emailed me cause the site one didn't work previously. The malware is like coudw.a or cloudsservice.apk every reboot, and also having a constant 115b up and download. No I haven't tried any games yet, or tried to open it up but I might do that, as I'm getting about the same battery wise.
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Yea it sucks, haven't found an alternative yet and still trying to figure this thing out. I had to flash one they emailed me cause the site one didn't work previously. The malware is like coudw.a or cloudsservice.apk every reboot, and also having a constant 115b up and download. No I haven't tried any games yet, or tried to open it up but I might do that, as I'm getting about the same battery wise.
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I think the tablet would work good as a playstation or rom player. I have yet to put my playstation games on it and also connect a ps3 controller to it. busy with differential equations and maplestory... I found a battery on aliexpress with about double the capacity. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/The-...ery-For-7-8-9-inch-tablet-PC/32213974542.html ...idk if itll fit tho. its a little thicker and longer on one side.... if it dont fit... ill make it fit > also, another app to boost the RAM is SmartBooster. I got a little over 200mb ram. yeah, ill update you when i find out other tips and shjt
Need PC/windoze to root.
"Root Android without PC," an info app on GP, indicates that phones/tablets with a kernel newer than 1/3/2014 can't be rooted w/o a PC. Framaroot doesn't work, it also fingers Kingo as possible solution. Kingo itself indicates that it's best for phones. I hate Windoze, but here goes.....
(Weeks ago, I saw something about invoking Linux instead--maybe it was a dream: Perhaps some of my brain cells exploded--no doubt due to "sprinting" cups at keg parties and then passing out long ago!)
I'm rating this thread a 3--still somewhat murky, without clear procedure to solution.
Thread is dead.
From rbrband57. This endeavor seems dead.
I still believe that replacing software/firmware is the key to getting the K70 to run better--the hardware likely is pretty good. I've been able to disable PRC bloatware, via some helpful cleanup software from GP. I'd like to uninstall. The loader at cold boot takes forever--I'd like to crucify that.
I'll reinstall kingoroot yet again, but I still don't know how to proceed further. Root confirm software says then rooted, but can't get SuperSu on--which might indicate true root, after all. Still not much info online.
My experience with rooting in the past was with a cheapo Icecream Polaroid 4.3" screen device from Big Lots: Full step-by-step procedure in one site, etc. Put a valid, new, upgraded .apk ROM on. Nothing can help the underpowered much, though--single core, 1GHz, perhaps, and 512MB sys mem.. GP worked sporadically afterwards--not really very well. Sold it to a guy in CA for his kid's Xmas last year.
Thanks for trying--Amazon no longer offers--K77, instead. Probably pretty much identical--hated, as well.