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Hi,
My Note Pro 12.2 P900 64gb is now stuck on the samsung screen of booting up and I am wondering if anyone can help me figure out what to do next.
I was experiencing the flickering issue for the last two weeks which got progressively worse and eventually caused random rebooting. One time last week it started booting slower and then it wiped out some widgets on my start screen and the apps in touchwiz but most everything else was OK. Then yesterday it would not boot up past the samsung screen. It charges up OK, and I can get to Odin where it asks if I want to load another operating system by holding power and vol up. But unless it is plugged in, just holding power off puts it in a boot loop.
The other part is if it is stuck and I hold power off it usually vibrates twice before boot looping.
I rooted the tablet when I got it, but still run stock touchwiz, I just needed some rooted apps namely LMT pie controls.
Can anyone please point me towards what to do next. Thank you very much for your help.
I guess wiping data and factory reset is your only solution right now
I shall warn you you could lose your data so I hope you already have a backup!
And also I've read that lollipop fixed flickering issue in p900 devices
I hope everything goes well for you
Good luck
hey there, you are not the only one, check this post. it seems is somethig related to battery issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61785158&postcount=14
minionhunter said:
The other part is if it is stuck and I hold power off it usually vibrates twice before boot looping.
Can anyone please point me towards what to do next. Thank you very much for your help.
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When power on, try pressing on the back, near the center with your hand. to see if it can boot normally,
Keep pressing while power on. if it works I will tell you what causing this problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeSG0hHpAG8
here you can look by the minute 2:30 where the connector is located, basically under the samsung logo. I'm not doing tests yet because i have a busy day ahead
Thank you all for the responses. Holding down the back while powering on does not help. I do have the flickering thing and that started leading up to this. Lay night I took it the battery and disconnected it for a half hour and that did not help. Looking at the connections with a 20x hand lens did not reveal any cracks.
I don't remember how to wipe the data off the device, I got it right when it came out rooted it with cf root and never got around to twrp. All I wanted was LMT and Xposed. I never even updated the OS.
If anyone can help walk me through this to get it running again I'll send you a green poetic skin used once or a white well used GumDrop hideaway case I tested for work. I just would like to get this running instead of needing to purchase a new one.
Thank you again. Sincerely.
Flickering screen is caused by cracked battery connector which cannot be seen under magnified glass. Re solder will fix it, trust me I did fix some of them
Beut said:
Flickering screen is caused by cracked battery connector which cannot be seen under magnified glass. Re solder will fix it, trust me I did fix some of them
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So resolder the 6 posts connecting the battery connector to the motherboard? Is there anything special I need to do that, just my soldering iron with a fine tip and solder? Anything special I need about the solder or do I need a wik or anything? The last time I did any soldering work was about 25 years ago.
Also will this fix the bootlooping and hanging on booting up at the Samsung word on the screen? If it is not going to fix that problem, maybe I should look at something else first.
Thank you very much again for your help.
Sincerely
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So resolder the 6 posts connecting the battery connector to the motherboard? Is there anything special I need to do that, just my soldering iron with a fine tip and solder? Anything special I need about the solder or do I need a wik or anything? The last time I did any soldering work was about 25 years ago.
Also will this fix the bootlooping and hanging on booting up at the Samsung word on the screen? If it is not going to fix that problem, maybe I should look at something else first.
Thank you very much again for your help.
Sincerely
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First, pressing the battery connector help your tablet to boot is a confirmation of cracked battery connector solders. 90% flickering problem is from cracked battery connector. 10% is bad battery. You should fix the battery connector first as it's major defect seen in many Samsung tablets. Re solder is simple, apply flux, then heat these pins and add more solders as possible to secure these pins. Even new main board, this connector will crack just after 3 or 4 months depending how you use your tablet, especially with who using it on their laps. The main board sits on a flexible LCD and only 3 screws to hold it to the frame at 2 speakers. You don't need to remove the main board, just disconnect your battery and re solder the connector from the top.
Be careful as this connector is very close to other components. Trust me, this re work will fix this problem as I have seen in some cases, battery jumps up from 8% to 45% after the re work, other cases pressing the battery connector help the tablet to boot or stop flickering.
This person applied the fix and succeed.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...screen-flickering-problems-3.html#post4473418
I have the Note Pro 12.2 and I had this same screen flickering issue. It would start to flicker at first around the 38% mark. I did research online and found this thread and many others. I tried the software fixes like the enabling of Developer Mode and screen brightness and other tries, but to no avail. When I pressed on the back of the tablet, the screen flickering would stop but then shortly return. So I saw the fix of trying to raise the motherboard which worked for about 2 weeks, then the screen flickering did return. It would then start to flicker around the 58% battery level mark and when it got down to around 26%, the tablet would shut down. When I plugged it in, it would show battery level of 0%, then quickly jump back up to the 26% mark when it shut itself down. So then by this time, I saw more of this thread and now was shown the soldering of the battery connectors. I had soldering equipment, but it was too large for this repair as these 6 pins are very close together. So I went to the hobby shop and purchased new equipment for about $30 with a smaller pin to be able to do this. Now, I am not an electronics guy and my past experience was replacing two bad capacitors on my Plasma TV when it went bad. That was the extent of my experience to date. So I opened up the back of my tablet and soldered the 6 pins again and the screen flickering has not returned. I am on my 5th battery cycle from 100% all the way down to 2% and the screen flickering and shutting itself down has not returned. Some people have said an electronics guy will do this for you for around $30. Well, I spent the $30 and did it myself. I want to thank the people for posting the solutions here as the soldering worked for me.
And from this post, a confirmation that repair center will do the same thing to fix flickering , auto reboot, auto shut down.....etc...all problems caused by cracked battery connector ( Connector Header ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58943998&postcount=74
Ok I'll try to resolder it this weekend and report back. I think that my pertinent problem is that I have both the battery issue AND another problem that the tablet won't boot up at all but I will try the battery fix first and see what happens. Then I will report back.
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
Your feedback is very important as I see many " Hit and Run " users, they get the solution they need but never post back. Your first priority is fixing the battery connector, then next is the battery if problem persists.
This is a hardware defect I have seen in many Samsung tablets: battery capacity fluctuation, quick discharge, auto reboot, auto shutdown.......all come from battery connector . Read the threat Flickering Screen you'll see others try all solutions but never work because they don't know this is a hardware problem coming from this tiny connector.
Hello together,
I have a Z5 (6653) that didn't start anymore and got extremely hot while charging. To be more clear: after connecting the phone to the charger the red LED turned on, then after about 10 seconds later it turned off again. From this moment on the phone's back started to get extremely hot. The source of the heat is about 1cm right and 1 cm down to the back camera (so you can say 1cm diagonal from the camera to the phone middle). Because of this I doubt it has to do with the battery as it should heat the lower two-third and not the upper third of the phone. Maybe the processor is at this place?
I tried to connect the phone in flash mode with the PC and it connected, but disconnected after a few seconds, probably because battery was empty. I repeated this procedure (connecting to charger, disconnecting, reconnecting, connecting to PC) a few days and suddenly the red LED kept on and the phone didn't get hot anymore.
So I charged the phone fully and wanted to start it, but the screen won't turn on anymore. Connecting it to the PC and the Phone drive (MTP) is displayed but empty, because you need to unlock screen. Also I hear the connecting sound of the phone and touch feedback sounds.
I tried the following things:
Xperia Companion Repair
Flashtool flashing newest ROM
Flashtool downgrading to 32.0.A.6.152_R5B (LP ROM)
Nothing helped. Well, the idea it is an hardware issue might be at hand, but maybe there is something else I can try first?
And if it is an Hardware issue, what is the cause? The Display itself? Then why was a single point at the phone back the source of heat and not a large area on the phone front?
A short summary:
Phone gets hot while connected to charger
Battery won't charge (LED indicator turns off after few seconds)
Source of heat is 1cm to the right and down to the back camera; after 2 minutes whole phone is hot and you can't recognize the source
After days of repeating the action (connect to charger, disconnect, connect to PC, connect to charger) it suddenly charged the battery and didn't get hot anymore
Display won't start anymore; still responsive
Tried Xperia Companion Software repair
flashed latest Stock ROM
flashed Lollipop Stock ROM
Phone has locked bootloader and is/was not rooted. I'm grateful for all help!
I guess its a dead screen maybe u droped it and the pins of the screens got ejected from the motherboard.. Ignoring the fact that it was empty of charge and you charged it.
From what i understand that the phone is working but there is no screen.
The best thing u can do is to check a hardware store that is capable of diagnosing the issue.
Im not helping here i know but wanted to share my thoughts..
Gd luck with that.
Thanks for this anyway. But phone didn't drop.
The fact that the phone wasn't charging and got hot instead at the beginning is very irritating. Especially that it wasn't the front but a point at the back near the camera. Is there a way to check if it's a Display issue and not a Mainboard/Processor/other Chip issue?
At least in Germany are a lot of stores that aren't too competent at all. But nobody would tell you, so its very helpful to know as much as possible before going to a store.
I think it might have something to do with the gpu inside the soc? The heat might have burned something inside the mainboard (how hot was it btw, like running intensive apps or even hotter than that?) Another thing that might have happened is the display cable is loose.
I've seen some Z5's screens and they're not that easy to die.
The best thing I can suggest is that you repair it in a trusted shop that lets you observe the repair procedure directly (open the phone, take the parts out, identify the problem).
Good luck with your phone.
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I think it might have something to do with the gpu inside the soc? The heat might have burned something inside the mainboard (how hot was it btw, like running intensive apps or even hotter than that?) Another thing that might have happened is the display cable is loose.
I've seen some Z5's screens and they're not that easy to die.
The best thing I can suggest is that you repair it in a trusted shop that lets you observe the repair procedure directly (open the phone, take the parts out, identify the problem).
Good luck with your phone.
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I never played any game so it is hard to compare, but I never had a phone in my hands that got this hot before. You didn't get instantly burned touching the phone but it was already inconvenient hot for your fingers/hand.
There might be some trust able stores to find, but I doubt somebody will let you observe it, not even Apple store does. If you see the trick of how to repair it easy and fast, you might do it yourself next time. And it is also a question of the price. If I can buy a used but totally unharmed Z5 for the same price, why should I let it repair?
As far as I could see in Germany repairing Display starts at 99€ for the Z5. Buying display with adhesive would start at 49€. But if they change the Display and it's still broken you have to pay for the Display and also for the mainboard i.e.
Hello guys,
I got a problem on my Google Pixel out of nowhere. I turned it off a few days ago and when trying to turn it on again a few hours later it did not work.
Nothing happened whether it was plugged it or not so I thought the battery was faulty.
I ordered a new one and changed the battery. Now the phone turns on but the screen remains black (I can tell it's turning on because it vibrates).
The screen is black but is still responsive, I can still (with difficulty since I don't see anything) enter my pin code and then answer calls, receive messages and so on.
It is also worth mentionning that it seems to work the same with the old battery which I thought was faulty (I am 100% sure it wasn't vibrating before I changed it the fist time because I tried for two days before ordering the new battery).
Do you think replacing the screen would be enough or could it be another issue ?
Thanks for your help.
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Hello guys,
I got a problem on my Google Pixel out of nowhere. I turned it off a few days ago and when trying to turn it on again a few hours later it did not work.
Nothing happened whether it was plugged it or not so I thought the battery was faulty.
I ordered a new one and changed the battery. Now the phone turns on but the screen remains black (I can tell it's turning on because it vibrates).
The screen is black but is still responsive, I can still (with difficulty since I don't see anything) enter my pin code and then answer calls, receive messages and so on.
It is also worth mentionning that it seems to work the same with the old battery which I thought was faulty (I am 100% sure it wasn't vibrating before I changed it the fist time because I tried for two days before ordering the new battery).
Do you think replacing the screen would be enough or could it be another issue ?
Thanks for your help.
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Have you dropped the phone? not like the ribbon cable connecting the screen to the motherboard could be loose and needs to be reattached again? just a guess though..
Arju said:
Have you dropped the phone? not like the ribbon cable connecting the screen to the motherboard could be loose and needs to be reattached again? just a guess though..
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Hello Arju,
No I didn't drop it.
Since I had to take off the screen to change the battery I had to unplug the ribbon cable. When putting everything back together I tried many times to unplug/replug it without success so far. (I did not glue it back yet to the case so far so I still have access).
Moreover, since the touch screen is working I am guessing it has to be attached correctly.
Thanks for your idea anyways.
Hi All
Has anyone had any issues with a black screen?
Everything else works like incoming calls and notifications but the screen it totally black!
Woke up early hours last night and noticed no AOD so tried to turn my phone on but the screen was just dead. Tried the volume and power button but still no joy
Power it down completely then plug in the charger.
If nothing shows on the screen it sounds like you lost some significant hardware... maybe just a connector.
toddyc said:
Hi All
Has anyone had any issues with a black screen?
Everything else works like incoming calls and notifications but the screen it totally black!
Woke up early hours last night and noticed no AOD so tried to turn my phone on but the screen was just dead. Tried the volume and power button but still no joy
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Same happened to my SM-N9860 unit when I woke up today. I about to unlock and the display suddenly went black screen. Did everything but no luck. I am also sure it's the display that's f***d up. The phone is still working - I can still access it in Dex and Link to Windows. This is my second Samsung phone with f**d up display for unknown reason. This is crap Samsung. Not expecting for this from an expensive flagship smartphone. I swear this is the last.
toddyc said:
Hi All
Has anyone had any issues with a black screen?
Everything else works like incoming calls and notifications but the screen it totally black!
Woke up early hours last night and noticed no AOD so tried to turn my phone on but the screen was just dead. Tried the volume and power button but still no joy
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By the way, how did you fix your phone?
I tried searching it on the net, seems a number of Note 20 ultra units are experiencing the same.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note20/Note-20-Ultra-Black-Screen-Phone-no-display/td-p/1437825
Seems that display replacement is the only fix.
tribalfs said:
By the way, how did you fix your phone?
I tried searching it on the net, seems a number of Note 20 ultra units are experiencing the same.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note20/Note-20-Ultra-Black-Screen-Phone-no-display/td-p/1437825
Seems that display replacement is the only fix.
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Poor parts QC.
Samsung will substitute components and smaller chipsets in the middle of a production run. This can lead to unpredictable behavior especially after firmware updates... or outright failures like this.
Not reassuring especially with a flagship phone.
blackhawk said:
Poor parts QC.
Samsung will substitute components and smaller chipsets in the middle of a production run. This can lead to unpredictable behavior especially after firmware updates... or outright failures like this.
Not reassuring especially with a flagship phone.
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Yeah. Very disappointing.
I can't believe it but my screen unexpectedly revives itself after a day.
tribalfs said:
I can't believe it but my screen unexpectedly revives itself after a day.
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Time will tell. Intermittents are the hardest hardware failures to troubleshoot...
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Time will tell. Intermittents are the hardest hardware failures to troubleshoot...
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Agree. But I am happy that it's working fine now and I hope it will not recur.
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I can't believe it but my screen unexpectedly revives itself after a day.
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hi im facing exact same thing in my N986 B Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. I had 10 percent battery left. i had put phone on charge and saw after 20 minutes and tghe screen was black.
Now its blackscreen can connect with tv via hdmi dex mode
but phone restarts after 10 minutes.
the touch seems fine as mouse function works phone is on but no display
can you tell exactly what you did when your phone revieved after one day
did u keep it on. charge all tiime tried reset or removed charging
or nothing and tried after 1 day
Edit After 24 hours of tapping slappingrebooting installing stock firmware. my display came back alive.
last thing was i was using phone in dex mode and trying to open close camera app rapidly by direct touch on screen. i dont know what worked but it saved my 300 dollars of screen replacement
I have exactly the same issue.
I was typing on whatsapp when suddenly screen get black. It was on friday morning. Notifications were ok, voice commands too. Touchscreen ok, I could use it normally when using my TV as screen with HDMI cable or with my notebook, when connected to windows or even Dex.
One day earlier I had an issue with the new magisk update. I freeze magisk manager wich was force closing but later, I managed to reinstall with dex and was working fine. Not sure if it's related.
I already flashed fresh stock Android R rom, wich I thought would solve any issues related to magisk or any other software issue.
24h after flash stock rom and keep force rebooting and taping, and my display is still dead.
Tried to tap, slap, shake (I can her some noise next to camera module when shaking, is it normal? I took off S-pen and microsd tray to see if it was the cause, but the noise still persists). No damage, water, or anything else. Only 2 months of use.
Display is still dead.
I'm draining battery now with some apps that also vibrate phone, to see what happens when full drained.
I live in Manaus/Brazil and repair centers are not working until March 23 because of Sars-CoV2. And my knox is tripped. It would cost a lot If I have to replace display or even the phone, since they probably will say it's no longer covered by warranty.
Any tips are welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Hope I have that lucky as well.
It happened to me again today. Surprisingly, a strong knock at center of the screen revived it again.
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It happened to me again today. Surprisingly, a strong knock at center of the screen revives it again.
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Hardware failure. May be a loose connection, cracked solder joint, trace failure on the mobo, or a bad component.
Intermittents are the hardest problems to find...
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Hardware failure. May be a loose connection, cracked solder joint, trace failure on the mobo, or a bad component.
Intermittents are the hardest problems to find...
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Yes, obviously. Samsung already replacing displays of those who are having this issue.
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Yes, obviously. Samsung already replacing displays of those who are having this issue.
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Not good if there's a recall... crap QC is getting to be a bad Samsung habit.
Those of you with BSOD issues: Did you have intermittent wifi connectivity issues as well? My N20U had the 'connected to wifi AP but no internet' for the last month. Then today after unplugging the OEM charger, checking charge level, never picking the phone up from the desk, and returning to it 30 minutes later the BSOD had hit. No amount of hard restarts or waiting fixed it and it had to get shipped back. Just wondering if there is any correlation between the wifi issue and the screen going out, and if people should start sending their note in ASAP if the wifi problem occurs before the screen goes?
hello
i had the same problem (didn't have any Wifi issues before)
and after the screen went black for 2 day , it came back and worked for a few hours.. then went off again and Never came back
i tried everything, resets , cables , connecting to Dex or Hdmi , updating.. but Never worked
i went to Samsung and they said screen must be replaced ( will pay for it as i am out of warranty)
can you tell me what have you done or if anything worked for you?
My screen went black after a screen replacement. Only the front glass was broken not the digitizer or actual screen. From what I can tell it's not just the screen that's dead, it's the digitizer too. The S-Pen board underneath it all isn't even registering. When I plug it in the computer doesn't see it so Dex won't connect and there is no signal for HDMI to work. Had the USB port replaced just to be sure it wasn't a bad port.
It's like some one took the graphics card out of a computer and took the touch screen monitor. The phone still gets signal. It connected to my smart Fossil watch and I could answer calls and texts.
But the phone is 9 months old. And from what I've heard from parts distributors it's not the screen that's the issue. So now I have a new motherboard. Now I have to figure out how to program it....
Hello XDA-Forum
I dont know where to post the thread, because it belongs to every smartphone brand. If you have an other opinion to that, feel free moving or deleting it.
But now..introducing myself,, a crazy dude and android noob², who tried to fix his bootloop issue since yesterday 3 p.m./15:00 Uhr and 10 minutes ago, before started writing that post, I found my solution.
Smartphone: Huawei P8, GRA09
What causes the bootloop? The fault display
What causes the defect? It felt from my hand on an oven door corner and ended on the ground.
What happened while and after its flight?
1st was turned off instantly,
couldn't turn on by pressing the power-button
after connecting to charging cable -> bootloop syndrome
if I disconnected the battery and re-connected it, sometimes an empty battery-icon had been shown on the display in loop
it seemed the p8 couldn't detect the battery, because without charging cable the Huawei didnt work
How do you know thats the display? I remembered storing an other vodafone-branded p8 with cracked functional display, in a box - and I replaced it at last.
Other defects on the display? Nope, the display is optical ok, no freezes, no graphic fails, no crack.
I was also able to enter the fastboot&rescue-mode,
adb didnt work.
fastboot commands also (command is not allowed , because p8 is locked)
Sincerely
ooh, k, thats weird.
i replaced the vodafone branded mainboard with the one from the p8, where I thought the display caused the bootloop of os and battery icon.
and it worked.
but now.... i have the issue also with the display of the other smartphone.
so it is not the display alone.
but what kind of hardware issue could caused by a fall damage, when the display doesnt have optical defects,
and the charging does not work now..
now, i have the same issues like yesterday. thats weird. :/
doey anyone have some advice?
could a flash fix the issue? or is it something with transistors on the mainboard?.. thats weird.. :/
ok, in the moment I lay it down on the ground the handy turns off instantly.
and now i have the same issues with the other one^^ wtf².
i hope it is the battery. but i dont know.... thats so unreal..^^
ok, it seems it was the battery.
and the fall damage relates the battery and the mainboard.
Because I purchased a new battery on Ebay and the vodafone-branded mainboard detects the new battery.
the main mainboard without not (but heres also a difference to the old behavior after connected to the charging-cable (the accu-sign still blinks after connecting it to the charging cable, but the boot won't work. I tried it the huawei sign will be displayed. and then it turns off and the accu sign will be displayed again)
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ok, it seems it was the battery - and the mainboard.
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anotherbootloop-solution said:
and the fall caused the battery- and the mainboard damage.
Because I purchased a new battery on Ebay and the vodafone-branded mainboard detects the new battery, when I use the new battery, with the old mainboard and the display (which felt on the oven door)
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the main mainboard without detects it not (but here's also a difference to the old behavior after connecting to the charging-cable (the accu-sign still flashes after connecting it to the charging cable, but the boot won't work. I tried it. the huawei sign will be displayed. and then it turns off and the accu sign will be displayed again)
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Am I a coder now? XD