Some inquiries regarding upgrading firmware - Sony Xperia L

Edit: after thinking about it, just realised that I could have posted this in the main thread of the rom mentioned here... Silly me... Thread move?
Hi everyone
I've recently purchased an Xperia L for my wife, currently running stock rom 15.3.A.1.17 (again), unrooted
I really want to update it to something newer, and looking at the rom list, it's hard to figure out which will be appropriate.
Unfortunately, I'm also not well versed in these sort of things (had my small share of trail and errors though)
Inquiry 1
My main concern is that I want to use the Sony UI. I tried BlissPop but it just didn't do it for me, I simply like the Sony UI and the things that the Sony comes with (particular the camera app)
And though I know I can probably install a lot of those things afterwards, I do also have a lot of Sony products, thus having it all from the get-go is much more convenient than trying to get it all back on
So what I found from the rom list was PrimeXperia - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/development/rom-primexperia-lp-sony-s-official-t3103905
I want to know if there are any other firmwares out there using the Sony UI or not, just for comparisons.
Inquiry 2
Let's say that there's only PrimeXperia, looking at the installation instructions, I see that it uses a recovery menu.
Now, my Xperia L is currently unrooted (and I haven't found a way to root it without having to use vRoot yet (don't want that on my phone)), is it possible to still flash a recovery menu unto the phone?
I have flashtools, and I have tried flashing TWRP (and a Cyanmod one at one point) using Fastboot, and it seemed to run even without rooting my phone first, will it actually function correctly or will the lack of root cause problems?
So my concern is, without having to root my phone, can I use Fastboot mode on Flashtools to flash a recovery menu onto my phone? Which of course, if I can, now I need to find PhilZ Touch Recovery to do so.
Inquiry 3
In the instructions, it says to Wipe Cache Partition and Dalvik/ART Cache, will this wipe data, settings, apps, etc also? Or does it only wipe the system stuff so that when I install the new firmware, it'll simply operate as normal with my apps and stuff still on?
Reason I ask this is because I remember something (from a long time ago) about only wiping/flashing certain things to ensure that user related things are still intact - just want to make sure
Inquiry 4
And just to make sure I know what I'm doing, as per instructions, I'm still within the recovery menu where I select the rom (zip file) and choose to install it, right?
Inquiry 5 - last one
Finally, it says that users reported wifi to not work and the solution was to flash ThunderZap, where is that? Is that within the download link (currently not home so unable to check)?
Sorry for the hassle and thank you for the help in advance

bitsnpieces said:
Edit: after thinking about it, just realised that I could have posted this in the main thread of the rom mentioned here... Silly me... Thread move?
Hi everyone
I've recently purchased an Xperia L for my wife, currently running stock rom 15.3.A.1.17 (again), unrooted
I really want to update it to something newer, and looking at the rom list, it's hard to figure out which will be appropriate.
Unfortunately, I'm also not well versed in these sort of things (had my small share of trail and errors though)
Inquiry 1
My main concern is that I want to use the Sony UI. I tried BlissPop but it just didn't do it for me, I simply like the Sony UI and the things that the Sony comes with (particular the camera app)
And though I know I can probably install a lot of those things afterwards, I do also have a lot of Sony products, thus having it all from the get-go is much more convenient than trying to get it all back on
So what I found from the rom list was PrimeXperia - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/development/rom-primexperia-lp-sony-s-official-t3103905
I want to know if there are any other firmwares out there using the Sony UI or not, just for comparisons.
Inquiry 2
Let's say that there's only PrimeXperia, looking at the installation instructions, I see that it uses a recovery menu.
Now, my Xperia L is currently unrooted (and I haven't found a way to root it without having to use vRoot yet (don't want that on my phone)), is it possible to still flash a recovery menu unto the phone?
I have flashtools, and I have tried flashing TWRP (and a Cyanmod one at one point) using Fastboot, and it seemed to run even without rooting my phone first, will it actually function correctly or will the lack of root cause problems?
So my concern is, without having to root my phone, can I use Fastboot mode on Flashtools to flash a recovery menu onto my phone? Which of course, if I can, now I need to find PhilZ Touch Recovery to do so.
Inquiry 3
In the instructions, it says to Wipe Cache Partition and Dalvik/ART Cache, will this wipe data, settings, apps, etc also? Or does it only wipe the system stuff so that when I install the new firmware, it'll simply operate as normal with my apps and stuff still on?
Reason I ask this is because I remember something (from a long time ago) about only wiping/flashing certain things to ensure that user related things are still intact - just want to make sure
Inquiry 4
And just to make sure I know what I'm doing, as per instructions, I'm still within the recovery menu where I select the rom (zip file) and choose to install it, right?
Inquiry 5 - last one
Finally, it says that users reported wifi to not work and the solution was to flash ThunderZap, where is that? Is that within the download link (currently not home so unable to check)?
Sorry for the hassle and thank you for the help in advance
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1. - use "stryflex" rom... Its the latest sony UI version for XL (same dev like PrimeXperia... Less bugs)
2.you need to unlock your bootloader first! For that have a look at general section (much guides are there)
3.first installation of a new rom will need a "clean" install... So you need to factory reset
4. yea if you are at this point... But you need a unlocked bootloader otherwise the phone wontn boot
5. www.thunderzap.in
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SdtBarbarossa said:
1. - use "stryflex" rom... Its the latest sony UI version for XL (same dev like PrimeXperia... Less bugs)
2.you need to unlock your bootloader first! For that have a look at general section (much guides are there)
3.first installation of a new rom will need a "clean" install... So you need to factory reset
4. yea if you are at this point... But you need a unlocked bootloader otherwise the phone wontn boot
5. www.thunderzap.in
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Just to add to 3.
If you wipe cache/dalvik cache, it doesn't wipe your whole system, apps, settings or any other thing. It just wipes the cache.
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SdtBarbarossa said:
1. - use "stryflex" rom... Its the latest sony UI version for XL (same dev like PrimeXperia... Less bugs)
2.you need to unlock your bootloader first! For that have a look at general section (much guides are there)
3.first installation of a new rom will need a "clean" install... So you need to factory reset
4. yea if you are at this point... But you need a unlocked bootloader otherwise the phone wontn boot
5. www.thunderzap.in
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Ah yes, sorry, forgot to mention that the Xperial L is already unlocked
And thanks for letting me know about StryFlex
Previously, I unlocked my phone, and it got caught in a boot loop, so I used Flashtool to try and flash a stock rom I found again.
I then tried rooting using vRoot, and installing TWRP Recovery via their app, but it would never install. Thus, I did Fastboot and installed it via img file (https://twrp.me/devices/sonyxperial.html - twrp-2.8.7.0-taoshan)
However, when booting into the recovery menu, there was a graphical glitch the menu was flipped around, and text information all duplicated and overlaid itself.
Is this due to the fact that I'm not rooted when I did this? Let alone the method of installation may not have been correct?
Nevertheless, I did the standard wipe (basically picked wipe and then slid the slider over to wipe) that's in there to prepare installation for BlissPop. When going to Install and choosing the BlissPop zip file, it would give me an error - thus... I my phone could not boot anymore and BlissPop wouldn't install.
I then downloaded Resurrection Remix LP, thinking maybe it was a bad file I had, zip had the same error.
I read somewhere about flashing the kernel and the files they talked about involved downloading X firmware and flashing the boot image file, so I extracted the RRLP to my computer, and flashed the boot image file in there - the phone turned on and went straight into recovery mode, this time, with the Cyanogen Recovery.
I did the wipes that were available in it again, then did the BlissPop again, and this time, it worked.
Of course, not liking BlissPop because I want the Sony interface, I'm back to the standard stock rom, looking to update - however, do I need to?
Given that 4.2.2 is all the Xperia L officially got, compared to the 5.1.1 that's out now, I'm just wondering about performance in general - would installing LolliPop actually run better than JellyBean? Or is JellyBean the technical limit of the Xperia L, which is why, alongside the fact that it's older now, that Xperia L only lasted to 4.2.2?
EDIT: Just found my answer from a different post you made:
SdtBarbarossa said:
Use stryflex rom... But then you will get lower performance... The more ram you use the less you have left...
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This is an interesting statement... Could potentially downgrading the firmware give a performance boost? For example, maybe 4.1.2 - though may not have the same updated features or look of 4.2.2, as long as it still can do just about everything, and possibly use less RAM, does it technically mean it should run faster? Etc - basically, which Android would be the optimal spec that the Xperia L is suited to? Just a general inquiry this one.
Xperia_L said:
Just to add to 3.
If you wipe cache/dalvik cache, it doesn't wipe your whole system, apps, settings or any other thing. It just wipes the cache.
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So, on the assumption that LolliPop would perform better and the android versions should have improvements in each one and it isn't phone specific, if I was to install StryFlex, it says to use the TWRP Recovery. If it's like anything mentioned in my above experience, will I have any issues installing StryFlex? Or would I do it as a one-two combo again? Using TWRP to wipe the things mentioned in the installation instructions, then flash in the Cyanogen Recovery kernel to run the zip and install StryFlex?
What you've also mentioned is that wiping the cache and dalvik cache won't affect apps and settings, in the instructions for StryFlex, it says to change filesystem, then change only system (filesystem?), data and cache partition (without having the phone with my right now, I can't quite imagine what this is, let alone what the instructions are talking about right now), when I swipe to confirm and format these partitions, will I lose data? Will it be as SdtBarbarossa mentioned... it needs a clean install? ...
Sorry for the questions... Really thinking this should have been in the other post lol...

Downgrading is not logically... 4.4 and newer roms need lower ram then old roms (if you want me to explain google... No time for this... But its the truth)
I pmed you
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[Q] Best Nexus S GSM Rom.

Hi, I'm new to the forum, so please excuse any stupidity on my behalf.
I have a Australian, vodafone GSM Nexus S, currently running 4.0.3.
I am currently feeling stock android to be very limited, and want to move a custom rom, but I have never done any rooting/modding before. So just a couple of questions.
1) How do you root and install a custom rom? Does anybody have any video (I prefer video as I am less prone to making mistakes) tutorials for rooting and installing a custom rom for Nexus S GSM ICS 4.0.3?
2) What is the best rom, kernal etc, as I want to get my phone as smooth as ios or pretty dam close to it. Also I like changing customizing home screens, etc and would also like on screen buttons. Also I would like it to be very very stable.
3) Would it be possible to reverse all this in case my nexus screws up as the sides of my nexus are kinda creaky, and though this doesn't really effect my usability, I might end up rma'ing my phone in the future, so I would like to be able to reverse all this so it doesn't void my warranty.
4) Is there any point is overclocking and undervolting a phone. My PC is overclocked, but I have a huge fan, so overclocking would mean more heat + more battery use, and on the other hand you are lowering the voltage. Wouldn't this be very unstable?
This is my first post, so I apologize for anything I did wrong, and I did try searching, but all the roms look very good, there are some very talented devs here, and I say thanks for the help in advance.
Cheers,
Continuum
EDIT: INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER + INSTALL CLOCKWORK RECOVERY TOUCH
1. Download the CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v8 HYBRID
http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager/d...le Nexus S
Why Cyber, seems fast, stable, and is not a beta.
2. Download and install the windows drivers for my phone (I'm on windows 7)
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/N...ussrootICS.zip
3. Follow these until step 7
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-root/...r-gingerbread/
n.b: don't worry about the cd \nexussrootthing. Just go to that folder, shift + right click, and click start command prompt instead.
4. Download clockwork recovery touch
(Link: http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/N...overytouch.zip )
and follow these instructions:
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks...or-nexus-s-4g/
5. Go into clockwork recovery (while still plugged into pc) and perform a nandroid back up
and click the following after:
data/factory reset
under mount and boot
format /boot
format /system
Next mount usb, and copy CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v8 HYBRID over to sdcard, and unmount USB.
6. Plug out cable, and flash rom by going into clockwork recovery and clicking install zip from sdcard, to flash rom
7. Reboot phone and enjoy
1. NexusSHacks.com has a video tutorial on how to unlock your bootloader and Root the phone. Rooting won't be necessary to go to a custom ROM, but unlocking the bootloader is highly recommended for doing so. You will lose all personal data (including from internal SD card) once you unlock.
2. Best ROM and Kernel are the ones that fit your needs. Try a few of them, you'll find a sweet spot somewhere. The Nexus S has some of the (if not THE) best ROMs and kernels of any android, in quality, features, speed and stability.
3. All reversible from a software side. Hardware issues are covered for 1 year under warranty even if you've rooted it, technically. You can lock the bootloader and flash a stock ROM very easily.
4. Overclocking can give a significant performance increase at the cost of battery life and possibly stability. Undervolting uses very slightly less power, but generally not significant enough to notice, especially with the instability risk (rebooting will use far more power than undervolting will save you). Some chips are made more perfect than others, so some can handle high OC and extreme UV, some gag at the thought of 25mV less.
Also, remember to do a backup via recovery (NANDROID backup) when you want to try something new and when you are happy and stable with a ROM/Kernel/Settings combo. This can save lots of wasted time
Hi Harbb, thanks for the reply.
1. Sorry new to xda so couldn't link url, but I think I got it thanks, and I found one for unrooting. But how do you install a custom rom without rooting?
2. Well I was looking into roms, and codename looks good but does not come with Gapps. CM9 also looks good, but still in beta, I think I'll wait for the final release of CM9. Got any specific ones you like? Also what is the point in changing kernel?
3. Since there is a vodafone flag under your name I presume you work for voda aus? So do I have to flash it back to stock to rma it, or can I just give it in, rooted + custom rom, and expect them to replace it for me granted the phone is still <1yr, and if it is not, I guess it costs a bit to fix it.
4. But wouldn't overclocking cause your phone to overheat. Sometimes my stock nexus is sunning really hot, and other times the screen is not responsive, and I presume overclocking will just add to that. I see undervolting as a benefit, but you could just configure your phone to go into aeroplane mode/turn of 3g/etc using timerifficor tasker if battery is an issue.
Thanks for the help, but whats a NANDROID backup. Also, isn't there another one called titanium or something?
Cheers,
continuum
Nandroid is a backup you make in ClockworkMod Recovery.
Titanium Backup is a backup of all your apps (+ data).
1. Once you have an unlocked bootloader, you are given permission to use "fastboot" to flash a custom recovery. The custom recovery has, practically, full access to the rest of the system (which is essentially what root/su is). From the new custom recovery you can flash the .zip file which is the ROM, or kernel, or backup all of your files that you couldn't even access before, or format several partitions to your liking. Rooting is just copying over the su command so you can have access to the entire system, which you can't have without it.
2. CodeName Android has a seperate gapps .zip file, it's linked in the thread somewhere. Just wipe (a full wipe includes data/factory reset, format /system and format /boot, i recommend doing this between different ROMs), flash the ROM .zip first, then gapps.zip second, then reboot into your new ROM. I really liked stock. Recently i moved to Slim ICS. It's all about preference, features, etc. All of the devs here are great and there is no harm in trying out a handful of ROMs, say for about 2 days each. See which one you feel at home with. Same with kernels. Pick a handful with the features you want and try them for a couple of days.
3. No, I don't work for Vodafone. That just says which carrier I'm with. With regard to warranty, put it this way. Unless you get some serious hardware failure or storage failure, you will be able to put the phone back into the locked and stock state. If the phone just up and dies one day, feel free to send it in as-is and they should sort it out for you as it is a hardware problem. This -could- be due to overclocking, and they can argue it, but i can't recall anyone having issues like that so nothing to stress about, just don't abuse your phone. Otherwise, you can usually be able to bring it back to a locked state and in this case i would do that just in case. You can find the warranty policy here. It's quite broad, but so long as it's a manufacturing problem it is clearly covered.
4. Possibly, yes. As i said before, different CPUs are better in general than others due to variances in manufacturing. Lowering voltage may lower temperatures too, so if it is stable this could be an upside to UVing. It's all about being stable though, if your phone can't handle 1200mhz, don't OC it. If it is and you are happy with the battery life and possible lessened lifetime of the phone while stable, go right ahead. Generally no harm in trying, just go up (or down) incrementally. I'll note that while not in use, the phone should be in "Deep Sleep", which completely shuts off nearly all components of the phone aside from the radio (for cellular reception). Undervolting or Overclocking has no effect whatsoever here.
Icecoldmeat said:
Nandroid is a backup you make in ClockworkMod Recovery.
Titanium Backup is a backup of all your apps (+ data).
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Cheers, so basically its like a windows recovery image. But for the nexus s 19203 (I think, its the slcd one), nexus hacks is saying to use TWRP. Can you still do nandroid backup with that?
Harbb said:
1. Once you have an unlocked bootloader, you are given permission to use "fastboot" to flash a custom recovery. The custom recovery has, practically, full access to the rest of the system (which is essentially what root/su is). From the new custom recovery you can flash the .zip file which is the ROM, or kernel, or backup all of your files that you couldn't even access before, or format several partitions to your liking. Rooting is just copying over the su command so you can have access to the entire system, which you can't have without it.
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So for a beginner, your suggesting it would be easier to unlock the bootloader, and load a custom rom with root already incuded, such as CM9, right?
Harbb said:
2. CodeName Android has a seperate gapps .zip file, it's linked in the thread somewhere. Just wipe (a full wipe includes data/factory reset, format /system and format /boot, i recommend doing this between different ROMs), flash the ROM .zip first, then gapps.zip second, then reboot into your new ROM. I really liked stock. Recently i moved to Slim ICS. It's all about preference, features, etc. All of the devs here are great and there is no harm in trying out a handful of ROMs, say for about 2 days each. See which one you feel at home with. Same with kernels. Pick a handful with the features you want and try them for a couple of days.
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So essentially:
1. Find a rom, and the drivers for my device, store these on my pc
2. Wipe phone (I presume by going into settings and pressing factory reset? and then wiping everything)
3. Turn off phone
4. Follow the nexusshacks to fastboot oem unlock and TWRP recovery
5. Nandroid backup??
6. Flash the rom
7. Flash Gapps
8. Reboot, disconnect from pc, and then let everything initialize.
9. Enjoy
Harbb said:
3. No, I don't work for Vodafone. That just says which carrier I'm with. With regard to warranty, put it this way. Unless you get some serious hardware failure or storage failure, you will be able to put the phone back into the locked and stock state. If the phone just up and dies one day, feel free to send it in as-is and they should sort it out for you as it is a hardware problem. This -could- be due to overclocking, and they can argue it, but i can't recall anyone having issues like that so nothing to stress about, just don't abuse your phone. Otherwise, you can usually be able to bring it back to a locked state and in this case i would do that just in case. You can find the warranty policy. It's quite broad, but so long as it's a manufacturing problem it is clearly covered.
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Ahh, my bad, new to this forum, and though you were a voda rep
So I guess as long as your not extreme overvolting, you'll be fine.
Harbb said:
4. Possibly, yes. As i said before, different CPUs are better in general than others due to variances in manufacturing. Lowering voltage may lower temperatures too, so if it is stable this could be an upside to UVing. It's all about being stable though, if your phone can't handle 1200mhz, don't OC it. If it is and you are happy with the battery life and possible lessened lifetime of the phone while stable, go right ahead. Generally no harm in trying, just go up (or down) incrementally. I'll note that while not in use, the phone should be in "Deep Sleep", which completely shuts off nearly all components of the phone aside from the radio (for cellular reception). Undervolting or Overclocking has no effect whatsoever here.
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I'll try mucking about eventually, but am a bit scared about heat build up.
Also, any word on when the full CM9 will come out?
I believe the initial estimation was around march, and by how early CM9 ROMs are going i tend to believe them. Likely more toward the end, though, before a stable is released.
A NANDROID backup basically copies: /system, /boot, /data, /cache, the recovery, kernel and .android_secure (on the sdcard). Pretty much everything android on your phone is backed up and you can go back to that exact state anytime you want by restoring, or restore each one individually. I personally recommend the ClockWorkMod, TWRP isn't in development anymore and CWM now has a touch version too, though i still prefer the non-touch myself. Just make sure to get the latest version from here.
You can feel when the phone gets hot as long as you don't have a full cover, and some apps can tell you what the battery temperature is too. Stick to what is comfortable for you. Don't be worried though, you can always just clock it back to stock speeds and volts.
Harbb said:
I personally recommend the ClockWorkMod, TWRP isn't in development anymore and CWM now has a touch version too, though i still prefer the non-touch myself. Just make sure to get the latest version from here[/URL].
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Ok, so this is what I am going to do:
1. Download the CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v8 HYBRID, from the link you gave me, I presume this works for i9023
2. Download and install the windows drivers for my phone
3. Root my phone, with TWRP, according to that method shown by nexusshacks
4. Then install clockwork recovery touch using fastboot flash recovery ,also shown by nexus s hacks
5. Preform a nandroid back up ?? not sure how to do this
6. Flash rom ?? not sure how to do this either
7. Reboot phone and enjoy
I am presuming Gapps in included with the rom.
Please correct anything wrong, and also, how do I get onscreen buttons? The code name rom looks like it comes with them.
!!!
I recommend you to use the latest CyanogenMod Nightlie (it's already smooth and stable enough) and some great custom kernel: AirKernel of Matrix kernel
novic_dev said:
I recommend you to use the latest CyanogenMod Nightlie (it's already smooth and stable enough) and some great custom kernel: AirKernel of Matrix kernel
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Cool, but would I have to do the whole process all over again, once the final CM9 comes out, and does it update automatically, or must you update manually?
No need for twrp, you can flash cwm straight away. Before unlocking remember to backup all your data that you can (you will lose save games and app settings). Make sure to do the wipes I told you about or your phone may not boot or be very unstable. Copy the from .zip to sdcard and while in recovery choose to install a .zip and choose which one. It's quite simple, I'm sure you'll figure it out. Backing up is done by clicking backup of course.
There is a thread in development dedicated to onscreen buttons, that might be of use. I haven't tried it before.
Harbb said:
No need for twrp, you can flash cwm straight away. Before unlocking remember to backup all your data that you can (you will lose save games and app settings). Make sure to do the wipes I told you about or your phone may not boot or be very unstable. Copy the from .zip to sdcard and while in recovery choose to install a .zip and choose which one. It's quite simple, I'm sure you'll figure it out. Backing up is done by clicking backup of course.
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Well I don't have much data on there, so I'm just going to copy a couple of photo's, and then factory reset, but I thought to flash cwm you have to have root first? My nexus is just pure, stock.
Harbb said:
There is a thread in development dedicated to onscreen buttons, that might be of use. I haven't tried it before.
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Thanks, but I can't post there yet.
http://[www].androidegis.com/how-to/now-root-your-nexus-s-in-one-click-root-method/ Is this any good?
Unsure if that one still works for ICS, possibly not. There are other methods to root 4.0.3 though without unlocking the bootloader, but it often makes it much harder to do some things. Since we don't get scalded for unlocking the bootloader (and it can be undone, AND it's easy), it is the best and preferred way by most accounts. It saves alot of hassle and we are free to use fastboot if anything goes awry. Much better than needing to do that rooting procedure again, then flashing recovery within android, etc. Since you have nothing on your phone, definitely just unlock the bootloader. Nothing like freedom
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to use fastboot, as i said. fastboot allows you to flash a custom recovery (and boot with a custom kernel, and some other less-used things). TWRP and CWM are both custom recoveries, so as long as you can use fastboot (via "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img") you can replace recovery.img with twrp.img, cwm.img and so on. Same process, different file.
I'll give you another hint since you'll probably run into this eventually: Stock recovery has an android and exclamation (!) mark as a splash screen. You have to press a volume key and power button to go through that splash screen. The main time you'll see this is if you flash an official Stock ROM. There is a script that reinstalls the stock recovery on boot in Stock ROMs. To get rid of it, you'll need to rename the file /system/etc/install-recovery.sh to something else (like install-recovery.sh.bak), or just delete it. You need su to do this, of course.
Harbb,
is it "OK" before reverting to a previous NANDROID backup in CWM recovery to do format system/boot/data/cache/dalvik and factory defaults ? or not or harmful ?
What is the word on that ?
Alright, thanks guys, I will try this soon.
mahanddeem said:
Harbb,
is it "OK" before reverting to a previous NANDROID backup in CWM recovery to do format system/boot/data/cache/dalvik and factory defaults ? or not or harmful ?
What is the word on that ?
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No need to, it is done automatically before restoring. Essentially it doesn't make a difference either way.
continuum51 said:
Alright, thanks guys, I will try this soon.
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You're welcome, it'll all make alot more sense once you're doing it.
Ok guy, about to do it now. These are the steps I'm taking,
1. Download the CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v8 HYBRID
http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager/...CyberGR-MOD|NS-NGN.&deviceName=Google Nexus S
Why Cyber, seems fast, stable, and is not a beta. Only question is how are updates going to work?
2. Download and install the windows drivers for my phone (I'm on windows 7)
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/NexusS/rooting/nexussrootICS.zip
3. Follow these until step 7
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-root/how-to-root-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g-on-ics-or-gingerbread/
4. Then install clockwork recovery touch (Link: http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/NexusS/cwm/nexussrecoverytouch.zip)
and follow these instructions:
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hack...orkmod-touch-on-rooted-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g/
5. Preform a nandroid back up, I'm guessing this is a part of clockwork recovery, and click the following after:
data/factory reset
format /boot
format /system
From advanced, click reboot recovery, and wipe data/factory reset & cache again.
Next, storage select, format /system /data /cache /boot & format /sdcard, mount usb, and copy CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v8 HYBRID over to sdcard.
6. Plug out cable, and lash rom by going into clockwork recovery and clicking install zip from sdcard, top flash rom
7. Reboot phone and enjoy
Before I go ahead, if something screws up, and the phone completely dies (software side), is there a way to force it back to stock? And are these steps correct?
continuum51 said:
Ok guy, about to do it now. These are the steps I'm taking,
1. Download the CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v8 HYBRID
http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager/...CyberGR-MOD|NS-NGN.&deviceName=Google Nexus S
Why Cyber, seems fast, stable, and is not a beta. Only question is how are updates going to work?
2. Download and install the windows drivers for my phone (I'm on windows 7)
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/NexusS/rooting/nexussrootICS.zip
3. Follow these until step 7
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-root/how-to-root-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g-on-ics-or-gingerbread/
4. Then install clockwork recovery touch (Link: http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/NexusS/cwm/nexussrecoverytouch.zip)
and follow these instructions:
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hack...orkmod-touch-on-rooted-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g/
5. Preform a nandroid back up, I'm guessing this is a part of clockwork recovery, and click the following after:
wipe data/factory reset
wipe/cache partition
And download the following Dalvik-wiper.zip, and wipe Cache. ?? for this, do I put it on phone sd card?
From advanced, click reboot recovery, and wipe data/factory reset & cache again.
Next, storage select, format /system /data /cache /boot & format /sdcard, mount usb, and copy CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v8 HYBRID over to sdcard.
6. Plug out cable, and lash rom by going into clockwork recovery and clicking install zip from sdcard, top flash rom
7. Reboot phone and enjoy
Before I go ahead, if something screws up, and the phone completely dies (software side), is there a way to force it back to stock? And are these steps correct?
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Data/factory reset also formats /cache. For a full wipe: data/factory reset, format /boot, format /system. No need to worry about any wiping .zips. No reason to do it twice either, but if you really want peace of mind do as you wish. This is ALL you need to do for wiping.
They are correct, but also somewhat redundant. Follow my wiping directions and you will be perfectly fine. If you ever want to flash a new kernel, you only need to wipe dalvik cache prior to flashing it.
Thanks mate. I've edited step 5, and am doing it now.
As i said too, no need to do the wiping again as you have at the bottom of step 5. Also note that data/factory reset formats /data, /cache and .android_secure (on sdcard), so doing the separate formats is essentially the same as doing the data/factory reset.
There is a sticky at the top of the general section with all of the stock OTA ROMs (Full and Update ones). Just wipe and flash one of the Full ROMs and you'll be back to stock in no time.

[Q] Please help with my phone; i am in deep depression :(

On 1/17/13, i recieved the samsung galaxy s blaze 4g, i know it is an old model phone but i've been trying to root this phone.
This is the first phone i have tried to root and i have failed at it, however i did try my best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUZV3EDUnY
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s-blaze-4g-t769-root-77814/
I used these two links to try to root my phone, i followed each step by step, did not check anything but "AUTO REBOOT" but i somehow soft bricked my phone.
I have searched the forums multiple times and i found that i have the same problem as this person.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2104969
Once again, i followed these instructions and i ended up at the screen "Welcome to SGH-T769, TOUCH THE ANDROID TO BEGIN" but whenever i touch the android, it gives me and error "GOOGLE SERVICES FRAMEWORK HAS STOPPED UNEXPECTEDLY"
Sometimes, it will get as far as "Setup wizard" but would give me the same error
to think of it, regarding the time when i was rooting, i dont think i had my microsd card in my phone which probably led to the problem, god im such a noob
and as a result i did not complete this step "After downloading all the files first move the Superuser.zip to the root of your sdcard..not internal sdcard but the removable one. Then unzip the Odin zip and once unzipped:
" but for now i think i need to fix the google service framework problem?
PLEASE HELP, many thanks in advance
-I would like to try to root this phone again if i am able to fix this problem.
What Google pack did you install?
occasion ireceta
jbats said:
What Google pack did you install?
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I really do not know, how do i find out
AndyAZ1000 said:
On 1/17/13, i recieved the samsung galaxy s blaze 4g, i know it is an old model phone but i've been trying to root this phone.
This is the first phone i have tried to root and i have failed at it, however i did try my best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUZV3EDUnY
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s-blaze-4g-t769-root-77814/
I used these two links to try to root my phone, i followed each step by step, did not check anything but "AUTO REBOOT" but i somehow soft bricked my phone.
I have searched the forums multiple times and i found that i have the same problem as this person.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2104969
Once again, i followed these instructions and i ended up at the screen "Welcome to SGH-T769, TOUCH THE ANDROID TO BEGIN" but whenever i touch the android, it gives me and error "GOOGLE SERVICES FRAMEWORK HAS STOPPED UNEXPECTEDLY"
Sometimes, it will get as far as "Setup wizard" but would give me the same error
to think of it, regarding the time when i was rooting, i dont think i had my microsd card in my phone which probably led to the problem, god im such a noob
and as a result i did not complete this step "After downloading all the files first move the Superuser.zip to the root of your sdcard..not internal sdcard but the removable one. Then unzip the Odin zip and once unzipped:
" but for now i think i need to fix the google service framework problem?
PLEASE HELP, many thanks in advance
-I would like to try to root this phone again if i am able to fix this problem.
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You soft bricked your phone because you are using 4.0.4 as the device now ships with ICS- k0nane's root kernel won't work for ICS. That root method only works for GB. You need to put CWM on your phone to root ICS (flash superuser or supersu zip through CWM). Also once you have CWM on your phone you can flash any ROM -stock or otherwise- to your phone through CWM. The link with the other person having the same issue was resolved...
Look at these threads :
How to root ICS : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1919228
CWM via ODIN : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591622
Heck you should just really look here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574556
Blaze 4g bible. Sticky thread. Not hiding from anyone. If you want to return to stock there is a thread for it. If you want to install a custom rom all of that info is there too.
Search search search. You will find everything you need here.
anactoraaron said:
You soft bricked your phone because you are using 4.0.4 as the device now ships with ICS- k0nane's root kernel won't work for ICS. That root method only works for GB. You need to put CWM on your phone to root ICS (flash superuser or supersu zip through CWM). Also once you have CWM on your phone you can flash any ROM -stock or otherwise- to your phone through CWM. The link with the other person having the same issue was resolved...
Look at these threads :
How to root ICS : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1919228
CWM via ODIN : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591622
Heck you should just really look here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574556
Blaze 4g bible. Sticky thread. Not hiding from anyone. If you want to return to stock there is a thread for it. If you want to install a custom rom all of that info is there too.
Search search search. You will find everything you need here.
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GOD DAMN, THANK YOU,its so overwhelming though ;/
unfortunately, i am one of those people who literally need step my step instructions and im not too sure you would like to help me through this long process. i have no idea where to start and do i just ignore the google framework error and try to "ROOT" again?
I am very sorry for being such an inconvenience
update: I did all of these steps:
((((((((((((((After downloading all the files first move the Superuser.zip to the root of your sdcard..not internal sdcard but the removable one. Then unzip the Odin zip and once unzipped:
Step 1:
Run Odin 1.85.exe, and prepare Odin:
Check "auto-reboot", and uncheck all other options.
Click PDA and select the TAR for clockworkdmod you downloaded. Click PIT and select the Blaze PIT your downloaded.
DOUBLE CHECK THAT YOU HAVE REPARTITION UNCHECKED
Step 2:
Connect the USB cable to your PC, but NOT your device.
Remove the battery.
Reinsert the battery.
Hold down Volume Up + Volume Down
Then while holding the voume keys plug in USB cable
You should now be in Download Mode
Step 3:
Make Sure repartition is still unchecked and click START in Odin.))))))))))))))
note* for the superuser.zip, i just downloaded the file and dragged it into my microsd, is that right???
-WHEN i am done with these steps, i get back to the "Welcome to SGH-T769, TOUCH THE ANDROID TO BEGIN" but whenever i touch the android, it gives me the same error "GOOGLE SERVICES FRAMEWORK HAS STOPPED UNEXPECTEDLY" again, IS THIS SUPPOSE to happen?
i am extremely confused
AndyAZ1000 said:
update: I did all of these steps:
((((((((((((((After downloading all the files first move the Superuser.zip to the root of your sdcard..not internal sdcard but the removable one. Then unzip the Odin zip and once unzipped:
Step 1:
Run Odin 1.85.exe, and prepare Odin:
Check "auto-reboot", and uncheck all other options.
Click PDA and select the TAR for clockworkdmod you downloaded. Click PIT and select the Blaze PIT your downloaded.
DOUBLE CHECK THAT YOU HAVE REPARTITION UNCHECKED
Step 2:
Connect the USB cable to your PC, but NOT your device.
Remove the battery.
Reinsert the battery.
Hold down Volume Up + Volume Down
Then while holding the voume keys plug in USB cable
You should now be in Download Mode
Step 3:
Make Sure repartition is still unchecked and click START in Odin.))))))))))))))
note* for the superuser.zip, i just downloaded the file and dragged it into my microsd, is that right???
-WHEN i am done with these steps, i get back to the "Welcome to SGH-T769, TOUCH THE ANDROID TO BEGIN" but whenever i touch the android, it gives me the same error "GOOGLE SERVICES FRAMEWORK HAS STOPPED UNEXPECTEDLY" again, IS THIS SUPPOSE to happen?
i am extremely confused
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Try to boot cwm and factory reset to clear up framework issue. Edit: wipe davlik also (located in advanced) .Yes putting SU zip on your sd card is right. You will need to 'install from SD card' and then choose zip to install to flash su for root. If framework continues to be an issue after factory reset then I would suggest flashing a custom ROM (same flashing process as root normally - read ROM op first!). There are quite a few stock based ROMs that are great. Or you could go straight to JB/cm10. Up to you.. there's so many great ROMs for this device!
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OMG IT FIXED IT
I LOVE YOU. HOW can i ever thank you??!
how do i know if it is rooted? and ive gone through the whole google setup thing, what do i do next?
anactoraaron said:
Try to boot cwm and factory reset to clear up framework issue. Edit: wipe davlik also (located in advanced) .Yes putting SU zip on your sd card is right. You will need to 'install from SD card' and then choose zip to install to flash su for root. If framework continues to be an issue after factory reset then I would suggest flashing a custom ROM (same flashing process as root normally - read ROM op first!). There are quite a few stock based ROMs that are great. Or you could go straight to JB/cm10. Up to you.. there's so many great ROMs for this device!
Sent from my SGH-T769 using xda app-developers app
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OMG IT FIXED IT
I LOVE YOU. HOW can i ever thank you??!
how do i know if it is rooted? and ive gone through the whole google setup thing, what do i do next?
AndyAZ1000 said:
OMG IT FIXED IT
I LOVE YOU. HOW can i ever thank you??!
how do i know if it is rooted? and ive gone through the whole google setup thing, what do i do next?
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Check for superuser or supersu in your app drawer. If either is there (I don't know which one you decided to use) then you are rooted.:good:
wow, thanks a lot, yes I have superuser when I open my apps. This is really more difficult then jailbreaking =p but I would like to ask, what I have to do to get "roms" or "kernels" and "apps" after my device is rooted?
Will changing roms mean I have to re_root?
sorry for having these silly questions but after resolving my problems and hrs of frustration, IM rly beginning to like this phone thanks again in advance
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After flashing a new ROM , just set phone up as usual when it boots up... then just enjoy having a kicka$$ phone no need to re-root.. just read installation of ROM good write it down if you must I did when I first started. Look and shop around there's plenty of great ROMs for this phone
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Actually, depending upon what time frame you rooted the idont device, rooting this phone with CWM is SIGNIFICANTLY easier than jailbreaking. Your problems of course, started because you didn't come here in the first place. Had you done that, it would have been a breeze.
As for your question about changing roms and will you have to re-root?
Don't look at it that way...If you want to switch to another rom that is applied through CWM, you're pretty much doing the same process you did when you came here, you're just only selecting the other rom through CWM. Don't forget to reset/wipe through CWM first though!
Cirkustanz said:
Actually, depending upon what time frame you rooted the idont device, rooting this phone with CWM is SIGNIFICANTLY easier than jailbreaking. Your problems of course, started because you didn't come here in the first place. Had you done that, it would have been a breeze.
As for your question about changing roms and will you have to re-root?
Don't look at it that way...If you want to switch to another rom that is applied through CWM, you're pretty much doing the same process you did when you came here, you're just only selecting the other rom through CWM. Don't forget to reset/wipe through CWM first though!
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great thanks for everyone's help, i really appreciate it and yea, rooting would have been easier had i come here first.
i have another quesiton: if i were to change rom, do i have to backup all my apps and contacts?
Titanium backup from play store .. contacts are synced with Google, I never restore apps or data,
Just redownload apps I use
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henslo said:
Titanium backup from play store .. contacts are synced with Google, I never restore apps or data,
Just redownload apps I use
Sent from my SGH-T769 using xda app-developers app
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is that not extremely tedious, i thought titanium backup only backs up like game data or soemthing.
is there anyway i could backup the apps that i already downloaded through apptoide and google play?
and also i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1919228 to root my phone, does that mean i can only download ics 4.0.4 roms and kernels? (do i download roms and kernels serperately?)
ive heard that jelly bean is the lastest and fastest one, is there anyway for me to get this and what rom would u recommend?
AndyAZ1000 said:
is that not extremely tedious, i thought titanium backup only backs up like game data or soemthing.
is there anyway i could backup the apps that i already downloaded through apptoide and google play?
and also i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1919228 to root my phone, does that mean i can only download ics 4.0.4 roms and kernels? (do i download roms and kernels serperately?)
ive heard that jelly bean is the lastest and fastest one, is there anyway for me to get this and what rom would u recommend?
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if your rooted on ICS u can flash anything in cwm. For a daily driver I use cm 10, bug free. There's also slim bean, aokp, pacman, paranoid android.
Whatever you choose create a backup first in cwm, than flash ROM, than gapps, than factory reset/wipe cache/ in advanced wipe delvik. Reboot and give it time to boot. I would also recommend a launched such as nova or holo. They will allow u to backup your home screen and drawer preferances , and hide apps. Google can automatically redownload all your apps minus any save data. Tb can be a pain when switching roms, not all apps will work coming from ICS to jelly bean. Make sure and be safe, go ahead and write down all your contacts before flashing. I've flashed jb on three different phones and lost the contacts each time. After the initial flash of jb , flashing updates and such you won't lose any contacts as long as they are synced with Google. Happy flashing
jbats said:
if your rooted on ICS u can flash anything in cwm. For a daily driver I use cm 10, bug free. There's also slim bean, aokp, pacman, paranoid android.
Whatever you choose create a backup first in cwm, than flash ROM, than gapps, than factory reset/wipe cache/ in advanced wipe delvik. Reboot and give it time to boot. I would also recommend a launched such as nova or holo. They will allow u to backup your home screen and drawer preferances , and hide apps. Google can automatically redownload all your apps minus any save data. Tb can be a pain when switching roms, not all apps will work coming from ICS to jelly bean. Make sure and be safe, go ahead and write down all your contacts before flashing. I've flashed jb on three different phones and lost the contacts each time. After the initial flash of jb , flashing updates and such you won't lose any contacts as long as they are synced with Google. Happy flashing
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let me get this straight, so a kernel is a part of the rom but you have to download them seperately? (rom then kernel?)
what link from the bible ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574556 )would i have to use to get cm 10 jellybean
what do you mean by not all apps will work coming from ics to jellybean?i've made up my mind to get jelly bean but im still confused at how i would backup the apps i downloaded from "apptoide" and "google play"
whats a gapp?
god, im so bad at this, sorry
AndyAZ1000 said:
let me get this straight, so a kernel is a part of the rom but you have to download them seperately? (rom then kernel?)
what link from the bible ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574556 )would i have to use to get cm 10 jellybean
what do you mean by not all apps will work coming from ics to jellybean?i've made up my mind to get jelly bean but im still confused at how i would backup the apps i downloaded from "apptoide" and "google play"
whats a gapp?
god, im so bad at this, sorry
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if your rooted you grab the zip from here http://get.cm/?device=t769 , now you need the gapps or known as your Google app pack you can find those in the blaze bible. Once both are downloaded, reboot into cwm. Now flash the cm 10 zip ( go for the newest one the stable is quite old and missing some features) once it completes flash the gapps zip. Now do a factory reset, now wipe cache, last wipe delvik. Once you've done these steps reboot your phone. Now be patient and wait. It can take in some cases 10 mins to completely boot. If everything was done correctly you will be greeted with a setup prompt. Enjoy
Apps from Google play are listed in my apps. Check your apps play page to see what version of android they are compatible with
Oh yeah your ROM has your kernel included. The kernels listed in the dev section are for over clocking and under voltage and are for people who've done this before. Besides I don't use them, not necessary.
jbats said:
if your rooted you grab the zip from here http://get.cm/?device=t769 , now you need the gapps or known as your Google app pack you can find those in the blaze bible. Once both are downloaded, reboot into cwm. Now flash the cm 10 zip ( go for the newest one the stable is quite old and missing some features) once it completes flash the gapps zip. Now do a factory reset, now wipe cache, last wipe delvik. Once you've done these steps reboot your phone. Now be patient and wait. It can take in some cases 10 mins to completely boot. If everything was done correctly you will be greeted with a setup prompt. Enjoy
Apps from Google play are listed in my apps. Check your apps play page to see what version of android they are compatible with
Oh yeah your ROM has your kernel included. The kernels listed in the dev section are for over clocking and under voltage and are for people who've done this before. Besides I don't use them, not necessary.
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Thanks!
so i will use 1/14/23 one in the link u posted, used this gapp -Full 4.2 Gapps zip: http://d-h.st/K47
1, download them to the sd card
2, reboot to cwm, flash the 1/14/13, when thats done, flash the gapps zip
3, factory reset, wipe cache and delvik
4,reboot and wait?
what about backing up apps from http://apptoide.store.aptoide.com/ that i downloaded?

Installing latest SlimBean - retaining old apps

Hi!
I installed the latest SlimBean on my i9000, I came from CM10.0. It all went smooth, but when the OS started, I was quite surprised: all my old apps from CM10.0 were still installed!
I'm not sure whether this is a bad thing or that a complete clean install is more preferable? I think it was kind of handy, but maybe other things remain as well and make the system go slower?
I followed the official steps exactly:
From another JB or ICS Rom to SlimBean
Download device_x.x.zip, slim_gapps.zip.
Enter CWM, wipe data, format system ( in mounts and storage)
Flash Device_x.x.zip***, then MUST flash slim_gapps.zip (other files optional)
*** - If the flash is too quick ( < 5 seconds or so), reflash device before flashing common or other zip files.
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Furthermore: do you guys think there is a lot of battery life gain with this SlimBean OS?
Thanks.
You should always wipe data when switching ROMs
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Wizzie86 said:
Hi!
I installed the latest SlimBean on my i9000, I came from CM10.0. It all went smooth, but when the OS started, I was quite surprised: all my old apps from CM10.0 were still installed!
I'm not sure whether this is a bad thing or that a complete clean install is more preferable? I think it was kind of handy, but maybe other things remain as well and make the system go slower?
I followed the official steps exactly:
Furthermore: do you guys think there is a lot of battery life gain with this SlimBean OS?
Thanks.
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I think you forgot to wipe data which is a "dirty install" and sometimes everything will work with no problems and sometimes you can end up with countless little problems. The more closely related the two ROMs are, the more likely a dirty install will be head ache free. Just remember if you do a dirty install and end up with problems, that you shouldn't report them as bugs until you have tried a clean install (wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache).
Changes in battery life will depend a lot on how you use your device, so it is best for you to test it yourself. I noticed that you mentioned that you have a i9000, the best place to get questions answered about that device is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=748
I am quite ashamed of myself, sorry guys. The "problem" was that Google Market automatically downloaded the apps that I had installed on a previous installation because they were "my apps" and somehow Market thought I wanted them in my fresh install :S Thanks...
Problem solved - Thread Closed!

[Q] n00b seeking help with custom ROM installation

Long time lurker (though I can't say I always understood everything I read), first time poster.
I've had several iPhones in the past and I finally decided to try the other option. I got a Verizon GS3 last November and I couldn't be happier.
However, like many others, I'm looking to get more from my phone. I do like TouchWiz (I have used a Nexus 4 for a week and didn't like the stock android), so I want to stay with about the same UI that I have now. I did some research and found that Synergy is probably the best option for me in terms of getting a bit more from my phone but still staying with (mostly) the same UI. Of course, getting rid of all the annoying Verizon apps is a huge bonus too.
This is what I have done already:
Used this method to root and unlock my bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
Used TWRP to make a full backup of my phone to an external SD card
Used Titanium Backup to make a full backup of my apps to an external SD card
Here are my questions:
I have the latest Verizon OTA installed (June 20th, I535VRBMF1). I have read all the posts from the last 14 days on the Synergy thread and I think I understand that since my phone has a newer firmware than the one in the latest synergy ROM, I will need to downgrade my firmware before installing the ROM to avoid camera and wifi problems. Is this correct? Someone linked there to I535VRBMB1_firmware.zip. How do I install this firmware? I have ODIN but when I choose PDA it will not let me choose the zip file. When I extract it, ODIN doesn't find anything too.
What kind of wipe should I perform before I flash to Synergy? Should I take my SD card out for the wipe or leave it in? Do I even need to wipe?
Can I install the ROM from ROM Manager or should I always use recovery mode and TWRP?
Is it recommended to just restore my Titanium full backup after the wipe? Should I have backed up everything except verizon apps if I don't want these? Should I just restore those apps where I want my old data (like game progress)?
Thanks in advance for any help. I have learned a lot from these forums but I feel I need a bit more clarifications before I proceed with a task that may be damaging for my device.
Slartibartfast_ said:
Long time lurker (though I can't say I always understood everything I read), first time poster.
I've had several iPhones in the past and I finally decided to try the other option. I got a Verizon GS3 last November and I couldn't be happier.
However, like many others, I'm looking to get more from my phone. I do like TouchWiz (I have used a Nexus 4 for a week and didn't like the stock android), so I want to stay with about the same UI that I have now. I did some research and found that Synergy is probably the best option for me in terms of getting a bit more from my phone but still staying with (mostly) the same UI. Of course, getting rid of all the annoying Verizon apps is a huge bonus too.
This is what I have done already:
Used this method to root and unlock my bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
Used TWRP to make a full backup of my phone to an external SD card
Used Titanium Backup to make a full backup of my apps to an external SD card
Here are my questions:
I have the latest Verizon OTA installed (June 20th, I535VRBMF1). I have read all the posts from the last 14 days on the Synergy thread and I think I understand that since my phone has a newer firmware than the one in the latest synergy ROM, I will need to downgrade my firmware before installing the ROM to avoid camera and wifi problems. Is this correct? Someone linked there to I535VRBMB1_firmware.zip. How do I install this firmware? I have ODIN but when I choose PDA it will not let me choose the zip file. When I extract it, ODIN doesn't find anything too.
What kind of wipe should I perform before I flash to Synergy? Should I take my SD card out for the wipe or leave it in? Do I even need to wipe?
Can I install the ROM from ROM Manager or should I always use recovery mode and TWRP?
Is it recommended to just restore my Titanium full backup after the wipe? Should I have backed up everything except verizon apps if I don't want these? Should I just restore those apps where I want my old data (like game progress)?
Thanks in advance for any help. I have learned a lot from these forums but I feel I need a bit more clarifications before I proceed with a task that may be damaging for my device.
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1 - You can roll back to MB1, or flash a kernel that supports the camera w/MF1. The camera not working seems to be the primary issue. I know Ktoonsez kernel works as do a couple of others.
2 - Wipe system, cache and Dalvik. You don't need to do anything with your card.
3 - At least the first time, I'd recommend using TWRP in recovery mode to flash your new ROM. Someone else may have a different opinion, but you'll already be in TWRP to wipe everything.
4 - Different people have different experiences with TiBU. Most would recommend not restoring system data, but apps(non-system) and app. data is usually okay.
lvgdgts said:
1 - You can roll back to MB1, or flash a kernel that supports the camera w/MF1. The camera not working seems to be the primary issue. I know Ktoonsez kernel works as do a couple of others.
2 - Wipe system, cache and Dalvik. You don't need to do anything with your card.
3 - At least the first time, I'd recommend using TWRP in recovery mode to flash your new ROM. Someone else may have a different opinion, but you'll already be in TWRP to wipe everything.
4 - Different people have different experiences with TiBU. Most would recommend not restoring system data, but apps(non-system) and app. data is usually okay.
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I appreciate your detailed response!
I'm probably going to attempt this tomorrow. Will report back with what my results. It looks like BoneStock might be another good option for me + save me the kernel replacement or firmware flash. I have some reading to do now
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Here are my questions:
I have the latest Verizon OTA installed (June 20th, I535VRBMF1). I have read all the posts from the last 14 days on the Synergy thread and I think I understand that since my phone has a newer firmware than the one in the latest synergy ROM, I will need to downgrade my firmware before installing the ROM to avoid camera and wifi problems. Is this correct? Someone linked there to I535VRBMB1_firmware.zip. How do I install this firmware? I have ODIN but when I choose PDA it will not let me choose the zip file. When I extract it, ODIN doesn't find anything too.
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Just to add onto lvgdgts' post: files ending with ".zip" are flashed in recovery, files ending with ".tar" or ".tar.md5" are flashed via Odin.
SlimSnoopOS said:
Just to add onto lvgdgts' post: files ending with ".zip" are flashed in recovery, files ending with ".tar" or ".tar.md5" are flashed via Odin.
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Thanks!
I decided to go with BoneStock 3.1. Whole process took less than half an hour. Used TWRP manager to wipe+install the ROM. Restore from Titanium restored 95% of my stuff, only needed to manually restore my text messages.
Thanks for the help!

[Q] Dual, Tri, or Quad-Boot?

I'd like to quad-boot my Nexus 5 with Android, Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish, and Firefox OS. Can this be done? I would also happily settle for tri-boot or dual-boot. What is the best way to go about this? My phone is not rooted (yet).
Multirom, probably
Thanks, I've been researching this all morning and I've come up with a couple problems.
There doesn't seem to be a way to do a full backup of the stock phone. A Nandroid backup would be perfect but in order to do that, custom recovery must be installed which requires unlocking the bootloader which wipes the phone. One of MultiROM's features is "Boot from USB drive attached via OTG cable". Can I do that and leave the phone's internal memory 100% untouched so I don't have to unlock the bootloader and wipe the phone?
It sounds like MultiROM itself requires custom recovery so I won't be able to receive OTA updates for an Android booted from MultiROM. Does that mean I will have to wipe Android each time I want to update it?
I don't think there would be any need to root the phone in order to set up and use MultiROM, correct?
You do have to unlock bootloader.
Think you are trying to run before you can walk. With 4 roms where would you store apps as well for them all. Most of those have little support anyway
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Aren't apps written to the ROM are you're using the OS like the rest of the user data?
Lack of support is OK.
Can I leave the phone's memory untouched and install MultiROM on a USB stick? I would think custom recovery would be required in order to boot from USB which would require unlocking the bootloader which wipes the phone.
You do have to unlock your boot loader and root your device for multirom to work,
Just back up your data and restore it after you finish the process.
I currently have an N5 with multirom installed and can boot
4.4.4
Dirty Unicorns 5.1.1
Pure White 5.1.1
Ubuntu Touch
FirefoxOS
The storage space is shared on android roms so you can view your file downloads, music and videos. You can view on Ubuntu Touch
The apps are separated by the Roms, so you can install the same app on each rom with different settings.
I have a 32 GB N5 with 580 songs, Copilot GPS app + data on the 4.4.4 rom, and a 2 TWRP backups (one for original 4.4.4 and one for the multirom) I still have 7.96 GB left of storage
qnc, the problem is there is no way to do a full backup without first unlocking the bootloader which wipes the phone. There are various backup techniques available but none of them restore your phone exactly as it was like a NANdroid backup/restore does.
Android shouldn't need to be rooted in order to install MultiROM. That can be done from the command line with the phone connected to a computer via USB.
Have you tried Sailfish OS? That's the one I'm most excited about due to their Android app compatibility layer.
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qnc, the problem is there is no way to do a full backup without first unlocking the bootloader which wipes the phone. There are various backup techniques available but none of them restore your phone exactly as it was like a NANdroid backup/restore does.
Android shouldn't need to be rooted in order to install MultiROM. That can be done from the command line with the phone connected to a computer via USB.
Have you tried Sailfish OS? That's the one I'm most excited about due to their Android app compatibility layer.
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Ahh understood. I missed the full backup.
I only worry about SMS/MMS backups and pictures. I don't worry about app data.
Question what data would be lost if a full backup is not done?
I have not tried Sailfish OS, I will look into it to see what it is.
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Question what data would be lost if a full backup is not done?
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Google Authenticator stuff for one thing. But in general the point of a full backup for me is I don't have to think about it and I won't be surprised after the restore.
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I have not tried Sailfish OS, I will look into it to see what it is.
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It's created by the former Nokia OS team in Finland. You can actually run Android apps inside the OS.
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Google Authenticator stuff for one thing. But in general the point of a full backup for me is I don't have to think about it and I won't be surprised after the restore.
It's created by the former Nokia OS team in Finland. You can actually run Android apps inside the OS.
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I see, I don't use Authenticator much, if at all.
I'm guessing that I probably don't since I don't worry about it. I change ROMs on my phone so much it would probably be a hassle for me.
Sailfish OS sounds very cool I will look at it and flash later today.
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I see, I don't use Authenticator much, if at all.
I'm guessing that I probably don't since I don't worry about it. I change ROMs on my phone so much it would probably be a hassle for me.
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So when you want to update a stock Android install, you have to backup/restore since you're using third-party recovery/bootloader?
Please let me know how you like Sailfish if you get a chance.
no i dont have to back up and restore for upgrade
since i upgrade manually i just flash everything except userdata image. i get the upgrade without deleting data.
also i flashed sailfish OS. it is really smoorh.
gestures are killing ubuntu.
im posting in sailfish right now.
Nice, my Nexus 5 shows up today (right after the 5 o'clock free crack giveaway) so I'll be dialing in MultiROM over the weekend.
So you keep your userdata on a separate image? How do you do that?
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Nice, my Nexus 5 shows up today (right after the 5 o'clock free crack giveaway) so I'll be dialing in MultiROM over the weekend.
So you keep your userdata on a separate image? How do you do that?
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It is just a matter of flashing each image individually.
I'm on my phone so I can't find the link, but there are directions on how to update while saving user data.
You just flash bootloader, recovery, system, boot, radio images and do not flash userdata image.
You systems is upgraded and you keep you user data and apps.
You then must root and ad back custom recovery, but thstcis pretty simple.
There are directions on XDA I just can't find link on my phone right now.

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