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My contract is coming up for renewal in late February and I'm thinking of replacing my phone with a new Android device. I realize this might be the wrong forum section to post in, but who better to ask than my fellow Shield lovers.
I had a Galaxy Note (original) and a Galaxy S2 prior, and they weren't bad. For the time Touchwiz, and a poor email client really put me off of Android as a phone primarily for me is a communication device, but I still like to have fun with it.
I ended up going back to Blackberry and have been rocking a Z10 for a long time. But won an iphone 5s through work and have been using that for about the past year. I bought a Z30 recently as it was being sold at a stupidly low price new in box from factory and I am sick and tired of the small screens and piss poor battery life of the iphone.
I also have a first gen Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet, and I've been complaining about it for the past 6-10 months because of it's size and weight and now that apps are being optimized for newer OS versions it's getting really slow. So my wife bought me a Shield for Christmas and I absoltuley love it!
I love how the UI is on this tablet and now know what all the fuss is about for Andorid. Touchwiz ruins the experience in my opinion. So I'm thinking for my new phone I'm going to get a Lollipop device for sure...the question is which one?
I don't want a Nexus as I don't like the idea of non-expandable memory and my 64gb card in my Sheild is getting pretty full, no way I could survive with a device that isn't at least 64gb (my iphone is 64gb and is usually between 50-60gb loaded up with music and media.)
So which device has a UI that is as close to the Shield as possible with expandable memory and isn't the size of a house. 5" is about my max screen size. There is no need to go larger as I already have the Sheild, and I want it to be pocketable. I got rid of my Note because I just kept leaving it on my desk. I would also love to get a 16-20 hour day with heavy use. FWIW my iphone 5s is completley dead by the time 2:00pm rolls around when it comes off the charger at 5:30am. I'm usually not near a charger again until 6:30-7:00pm on average. It's going to be a lot to ask but a 5:30am to 10:00pm battery life would be fantastic...
If you want a stock OS look and MicroSD, get the HTC M8 Google Play Edition. Stock Android, front speakers, and MicroSD support just like the ST.
Not going to be a popular opinion around here but the iPhone 6 gets much much better battery life than the older ones, if you are already invested into iTunes that may be a valid option for you. For me I have the 6 plus and it is cool because I get awesome battery life and then I get completely different games then the ones that are available on my shield tab so I have pretty much the best of both worlds.
Also my reason for going to the iPhone is because I have ATT and needed a carrier subsidized phone, tried the Nexus 6 it is utter crap build quality and the Note 4 is not even rootable, there is not much else that is really modern on ATT.
As far as gaming ready devices, all Qualcomm Snapdragon devices fall into a mediocre range. None of them are really "smooth" at gaming and all of them work hard to provide perpetual fluidity. Bad video drivers and non-existent high clock efficiency mean those devices scale vey poorly, and gaming takes a monstrous drain on the battery for even simple 2D games. If you are looking for a device which can handle gaming in a manner similar to the shield (and aren't too concerned with what you might lose) then tegra phones and iPhones are your best option objectively. It's impossible to recommend a Qualcomm device as better for gaming. If you are just looking for a simple phone with light gaming, then something like the upcoming HTC M9 or a likewise lollipop based device would be fine. But if gaming is your concern (which you don't seem to mention) then my above statements hold very true.
All "stock" suggestions should definitely fly with "but shall include excessive Google bloatware that wouldn't be accepted from Samsung or any other OEM." That much said, crap like Drive Earth Docs Sheets Slides Newsstand Books Music Movies Plus Fit Now Wallet Keyboard Chrome and the ever constant location stalker CAN be disabled quite easily.
Preliminary reports say the S5 is shaping up to perform amazingly on Lollipop. A simple comparison of this tablet and the Nexus 7 and the iPad-Mini-esque Nexus 9, has shown me that it's all about the implementation of lollipop, not comparing who has the biggest version number, that is essential in determining which device is best.
Google Play Edition phones like HTC One M8 or Galaxy S4.
The Moto G and X phones also offer nearly stock OS.
Gaming is not a concern for me with a phone, thats what the Tablet is for. a Pretty stock non-bloated with manufacture crud OS is whats most important I think. Touchwiz was just annoying when I was test driving a Note 3 and on my S2 when I had it. Just didn't enjoy it. I also don't like how big the S5 and such has gotten.
I'll take a closer look at the Google Play edition phones. I wanted to get something direct from carrier to get the subsidy and save some cash... I'm on Rogers in Canada... No Moto X is avaialble, and it doesn't appear to have a micro SD. However the Sony Z3 seems to have a pretty stock version of Android... what are peoples opinions on that device?
Well I wouldn't say it's stock by any means. It's actually fairly heavy on skinning, but it does look nice. Updates will be very slow for Sony phones. But the battery life is fantastic, and the overall hardware is nice. Sony phones can be problematic, but since it's a carrier device you can always yell at Rogers.
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Well I wouldn't say it's stock by any means. It's actually fairly heavy on skinning, but it does look nice. Updates will be very slow for Sony phones. But the battery life is fantastic, and the overall hardware is nice. Sony phones can be problematic, but since it's a carrier device you can always yell at Rogers.
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Yea, I'm reading more on the Z3 forums and seeing stuff I'm not overly happy with.
One thing that is ever important to me is the speed and quality of the camera, something I'm addicted to on my iphone. I'm a part-time professional photographer along with my day job. So I got a camera for manual control and taking beautiful shot. I love my iphone for the quick burst that I can do within a couple of seconds on the fly (and thats about it that I've found as a pro over Android). I don't know if there is an Android phone out there that can compete, which is very unfortunate. When I was test driving the Note 3, one of the few major reasons I returned it was due to the crappy camera speed/AF. (The others were size and touchwiz)
Moto X, Moto G, Nexus 5, Nexus 6 or the Google Play Edition phones from the play store. Thats about it. I guess the OnePlus One fits the bill also.
I can't recommend the Moto X enough. Mine is absolutely amazing and I've owned QUITE a few different phones over the past few years including Samsung, HTC, Sony, Nexus, ZTE. The Motorola lineup of the past year or so has been nothing short of phenomenal.
I disagree on the basis that the battery life is pretty bad. Like iPhone levels of battery life frankly. I'm surprised people just glaze over that. 2300mah battery with lollipop+amoled is battery hell.
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I disagree on the basis that the battery life is pretty bad. Like iPhone levels of battery life frankly. I'm surprised people just glaze over that. 2300mah battery with lollipop+amoled is battery hell.
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Do you own one? Because I do. And I routinely hit 18-19 hours with 2.5-3 hours of screen time. Everyone I see complaining about battery life doesn't own one, and are just parroting FUD.
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I disagree on the basis that the battery life is pretty bad. Like iPhone levels of battery life frankly. I'm surprised people just glaze over that. 2300mah battery with lollipop+amoled is battery hell.
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Do you own one? Because I do. And I routinely hit 18-19 hours with 2.5-3 hours of screen time. Everyone I see complaining about battery life doesn't own one, and are just parroting FUD.
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I'd also have to agree. I was hesitant about the phone when it was first announced because of the battery and held off buying one until the Cyber Monday coupon deal. Since then, I've added a wireless charging module (thread in the accessories sub-forum for the phone) and I couldn't be happier. Not saying you need a wireless mod, I just missed that from the Nexus 5. But even so, the battery has been above and beyond what I expected, the phone's performance is top notch, Active Display or whatever its called has no second best and Motorola's adherence to near stock Android is the cherry on top.
Like icase said, unless you have one and have something to back up your comment, you're just blowing FUD. My go to devices today are my 2014 Moto X and my Nvidia Shield Tablet.
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My contract is coming up for renewal in late February and I'm thinking of replacing my phone with a new Android device. I realize this might be the wrong forum section to post in, but who better to ask than my fellow Shield lovers.
I had a Galaxy Note (original) and a Galaxy S2 prior, and they weren't bad. For the time Touchwiz, and a poor email client really put me off of Android as a phone primarily for me is a communication device, but I still like to have fun with it.
I ended up going back to Blackberry and have been rocking a Z10 for a long time. But won an iphone 5s through work and have been using that for about the past year. I bought a Z30 recently as it was being sold at a stupidly low price new in box from factory and I am sick and tired of the small screens and piss poor battery life of the iphone.
I also have a first gen Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet, and I've been complaining about it for the past 6-10 months because of it's size and weight and now that apps are being optimized for newer OS versions it's getting really slow. So my wife bought me a Shield for Christmas and I absoltuley love it!
I love how the UI is on this tablet and now know what all the fuss is about for Andorid. Touchwiz ruins the experience in my opinion. So I'm thinking for my new phone I'm going to get a Lollipop device for sure...the question is which one?
I don't want a Nexus as I don't like the idea of non-expandable memory and my 64gb card in my Sheild is getting pretty full, no way I could survive with a device that isn't at least 64gb (my iphone is 64gb and is usually between 50-60gb loaded up with music and media.)
So which device has a UI that is as close to the Shield as possible with expandable memory and isn't the size of a house. 5" is about my max screen size. There is no need to go larger as I already have the Sheild, and I want it to be pocketable. I got rid of my Note because I just kept leaving it on my desk. I would also love to get a 16-20 hour day with heavy use. FWIW my iphone 5s is completley dead by the time 2:00pm rolls around when it comes off the charger at 5:30am. I'm usually not near a charger again until 6:30-7:00pm on average. It's going to be a lot to ask but a 5:30am to 10:00pm battery life would be fantastic...
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Hi, just my two cents, IMHO the Nvidia Shield is a great tablet but to play PC games you have to stream to Nvidia, so if I want to recommend to you a similar device, the closest phone you can get is the Sony Experia Z3, Android 5 Lollipop, battery levels are very good, beautiful design and you can connect it to a playstation and play the games wireless on your phone with the PS controller. You even get the sound from your controller by connecting the headphones to it.
I have a couple of ideas.
If you can wait, the HTC Hima promises to be a beast. A Snapdragon 810 with a 1080p screen means that it will probably crush every other phone in terms of performace, thanks to every other phone jumping on the pointless 4K train. Look it up. It looks pretty nice. *drool*
If you need something now, then....I know you want a smaller phone, but....I can't recommend the Oneplus One enough.
-It is actually thinner than and not as wide as the Note, dispite its slightly larger screen.
-Even though it has no expandable storage, 64 gigs of internal storage has actually proven more useful to me. I never have to worry about limited storage for application data.
-The battery life on this thing is nuts. I'm a heavy user and I only need to charge it every other day.
-1080p screen. This is a plus because it it uses less resources than a 4k display. And honestly, most, if not all people, cannot tell the difference.
-Snapdragon 801 with 3 gigs of RAM. This thing flies, and multitasks like a champ. I remember a time not too long ago when more than 2gb RAM was considered excessive for most DESKTOP computers. I think its more than the specs that make this thing fly, though. Something in the hardware implementation must be special, because people have been reporting some pretty unbelievable benchmarks. Oh, and Sonic Adventure 2 runs smoothly in Reicast.
-The XDA scene is HUGE for this device. Its the most popular device on the forums. There are, like, 73 billion ROMs for it and maybe 2.5 billion kernels. I've never owned such a popular device. This is my favorite feature.
Its also the one of the only devices I have right now that isn't defective in some way. I tend to have horrible luck when purchasing electronics.
I hope I've helped you reach some sort of conclusion. Good luck. :good:
thanks guys,
I went into my Rogers store and manhandled what they had on display as well as a few open box units. I also took at look at Telus, but they can't meet me on my plan so no point in switching over. But the Moto X seemed like the best device.
I found the Z3 to be the best value for me right now. As I originally mentioned I'm not looking at the phone for gaming, but to be a workhorse and get me through a very heavy use work day. Not having Touch-Wiz was a huge plus for me, and I really enjoyed some of the things they changed in the skin. The camera performed a lot better than the other phones I tried in store. the HTC M8 was a very close contender, but the camera just sucks so horribly it got kicked out of the running faster than I could blink. I honestly think that Nokia/Windows Phone has the best camera interface after playing around with phones the past week, but the Z3 does a pretty good job.
For me it was the battery power, the UI, and the pretty impressive spec sheet that (hopefuly) will not force me to upgrade in the next 18 months that caused me to go with the Z3 overall. Rogers has a pretty limited offering right now which is annoying. I almost went with the Samsung S5, but remembered how much Touch-Wiz pozioned me the first time.
If they had a Nexus 5 32gb in stock I would have probably gone with that instead...and dealt with the size limitiation...but none left for corporate customers.
So my Black Z3 is in the mail and I'm really looking forward to it. Especially since my time frame for getting a new device really escallated with an unexpected smashy smashy of my iphone (dropped it and ran it over with a stroller by complete accident. One of the only times it wasn't cased!) now I need a case for my Z3
Hello,nowadays I am planning to buy new phone,and Nexus 5 is in my options.According to you is it worth to buy it now ?.Nexus 5 is nearly 2 years old,and I am planning to use my new phone at least 3-4 years.Performance and battery are priority.
Well worth buying - even today it has great spec for very affordable price. Fantastic screen, great battery and most importantly - pure Android 5.1 which comes with huge community.
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Well worth buying - even today it has great spec for very affordable price. Fantastic screen, great battery and most importantly - pure Android 5.1 which comes with huge community.
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Totally agree with this. I was thinking about swapping mine but in terms of spec and upgrades there is nothing else - well the Nexus 6 but that is just way too big.
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Well worth buying - even today it has great spec for very affordable price. Fantastic screen, great battery and most importantly - pure Android 5.1 which comes with huge community.
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The only thing that everybody complain about Nexus 5 is battery,and you said that great battery.How can you get great battery performance ?
artilherio said:
The only thing that everybody complain about Nexus 5 is battery,and you said that great battery.How can you get great battery performance ?
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Show me those everybody ?! Because I have removed over 200mg of unwanted apps/gapps, I`m on 5.1
just get it! N5 is a great phone. :good:
The battery is Underpowered, other than that, a good device. Just don't pay full retail, I would pay full retail in Nov '13 but not in April' 15
I've got one and I'm looking for another as a spare, as others say it's a great phone. Mine outscored the S5 on antutu) The only phone I'd change it for is the rumoured Nexus 5B.
The battery is not grt which is why I replaced it. They all loose about 20%a year. As someone else said get rid of unless apps and it is OK. I'm on # lite rom# which comes with about 4apps)
Sent from my Nexus 5
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The only thing that everybody complain about Nexus 5 is battery,and you said that great battery.How can you get great battery performance ?
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Try some LSD and there will be no battery issues! And the Nexus5 will blow your mind!
Yeah the battery is bad compared to the flagships (and even some similarly priced phones lol) but a solid device that definitely offers bang for the buck performance.
Out of the box, its a fantastic phone but let down by the battery. If you are comfortable with rooting and replacing kernels etc, this can be addressed.
On the other hand, look at the LG G2. The battery if fantastic without any modding and most of the bloat, even a noob like me can disable. Speed wise, I'd say its 20% slower than the Nexus 5.
If just comes down to how dirty you want your hands to get.
To give you a comparison, I've had both running the same apps and this is what I got battery wise for my typical usage, (my signal is also very poor.)
- Nexus 5, Standby time=40h, Screen on time=2:30h
- LG G2, Standby time=80h, Screen on time=2:30h
Just remember that everyones usage and signal strengths are very different.
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Out of the box, its a fantastic phone but let down by the battery. If you are comfortable with rooting and replacing kernels etc, this can be addressed.
On the other hand, look at the LG G2. The battery if fantastic without any modding and most of the bloat, even a noob like me can disable. Speed wise, I'd say its 20% slower than the Nexus 5.
If just comes down to how dirty you want your hands to get.
To give you a comparison, I've had both running the same apps and this is what I got battery wise for my typical usage, (my signal is also very poor.)
- Nexus 5, Standby time=40h, Screen on time=2:30h
- LG G2, Standby time=80h, Screen on time=2:30h
Just remember that everyones usage and signal strengths are very different.
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G2 has the same SoT as n5, rma it wth...
Great performance but poor battery not future proof if you want to use it for 3-4 years
desire 820 is a good option
I think 2300 mah is sufficient under normal circumstances.Galaxy Alpha has 1800 mah but I didnt hear any problem about battery or s6 has 2550 mah which is nearly as same as N5.Then, why N5 battery is insufficient compared to other phones also using stock android ?
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I think 2300 mah is sufficient under normal circumstances.Galaxy Alpha has 1800 mah but I didnt hear any problem about battery or s6 has 2550 mah which is nearly as same as N5.Then, why N5 battery is insufficient compared to other phones also using stock android ?
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Are they calibrated the same? Same chipsets and screen resolutions etc?
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G2 has the same SoT as n5, rma it wth...
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Yes, the G2 has the same SOT as the N5 in my experiment. However, the standby time was DOUBLE.
In my days of the N5, I couldnt trust it to wake me up in the morning if the battery was below 30% at bed time, (as sometimes my signal is really bad in my flat.) On the G2 however, it can be as low as 15% and has yet to let me down. :angel:
If I had to pick between the G2 and N5 to last me the next 2 years, it would be a tough decision but I'd go with the G2. I dont think either of these phones would be good for 4 years though. :crying:
Nexus 5 is a great purchase. The only thing it seems to not be future proof against are high intensity games and higher resolution streaming options that may come our way. As a daily phone, I can't imagine needing much more power than what it's got.
In fact, I purchased a N5 back in November 2013. It started failing two months ago (this was a first-run version with the old ceramic buttons prone to breakage). I upgraded to an LG G3 - the G3 is a gorgeous phone, but I kept wanting my old Nexus 5 back. After a week I bought a new N5 on amazon and returned the G3. I have no regrets.
If anything can be a perfect phone for power users, this is it.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Yes leaves the G3 standing
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Sent from my Nexus 5
Yes leaves the G3 standing
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Yes, that is very accurate...
Buy it: great specs at low price
Hey guys, in your opinion is the nexus 5 still worth buying?
how long will we continiue to get updayes and so forth?
Thank you for your opinions
It depends, if you can buy the phone for a low price yes. Have a look at the Nexus 4, it´s > 2 years old and still got the latest updates from Google.
If you can wait a few months longer, you might want to wait for the latest Nexus device from Google ?
Other than that, the Nexus 5 is still a great device. Maybe I´m going to use mine for another year.
In terms of performance , the nexus 5 is still one of the fastest/smoothest android devices , But since it is a nexus it has some downsides like the battery and the cameras (both) .
If you can get a great deal on it don't hesitate to take it , otherwise don't buy it .
I advice you to wait few months for the new nexus . Because now is not a good time to buy a pure android device , Few months from now there will be a new nexus and a new moto x and oneplus two .
Battery is terrible, camera is subpar, non-removable battery (can be changed with small tools) , no sd slot , everything else is good. Koodo sells the lg g3 that has 3000mah battery, removable battery, sd card for $400 cad outright.
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Hey guys, in your opinion is the nexus 5 still worth buying?
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Thank you for tmsome really great advises
Unless you like phablets, yes, it is worth buying. There may never be another stock device in a decent size again. This phone performs better than a nexus 6 too as far as I can tell. (Owned a nexus 6 for a couple months and wasn't impressed)
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Battery is terrible, camera is subpar, non-removable battery (can be changed with small tools) , no sd slot , everything else is good. Koodo sells the lg g3 that has 3000mah battery, removable battery, sd card for $400 cad outright.
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Lg g3 is far behind the nexus 5 in performance and user experience . My brother owns a G3 and he is not happy with it , every thing is good in the G3 except that It is terribly slow and laggy even with custom ROMs and kernels .
I don't know what was lg thinking when designing their UI , But they succeeded to make Android ugly , fat and slow !
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Unless you like phablets, yes, it is worth buying. There may never be another stock device in a decent size again. This phone performs better than a nexus 6 too as far as I can tell. (Owned a nexus 6 for a couple months and wasn't impressed)
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Try the z4c
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Try the z4c
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That does look really nice. Perfect specs really. With that resolution it will perform better than any phone released yet. If I wasn't on Sprint I probably would check it out if the next nexus turned out to be too big. Sony doesn't seem to have a relationship with Sprint though and I cannot switch carriers due to signal issues at my work (I work in a hospital basement and Sprint has a contract with us for a system that gets signal to the basement. Any other carrier is no signal).
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Lg g3 is far behind the nexus 5 in performance and user experience . My brother owns a G3 and he is not happy with it , every thing is good in the G3 except that It is terribly slow and laggy even with custom ROMs and kernels .
I don't know what was lg thinking when designing their UI , But they succeeded to make Android ugly , fat and slow !
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I went from the N5 to the G2 (on 4.4.2) and I'd say the experience is good but runs at 70% speed of the N5. On the other hand, I get double the battery of my previous N5's so I couldnt be happier. :victory:
To answer the question, Yes buy the N5 if the price is right, i.e. below $200 in good condition. If battery life is more important consider the G2 if you can get it below $200.
Hi, I'm currently the owner of a OPO and satisfied with performance an everything, but it's just too big. Thus I'll need a new phone for not more than 500€ and with a screen about 5 inches.
So I wanted to ask you GS6 owner if you're still satisfied with your phone after six months. Could you answer these questions?
1. Do you still have the out of RAM problem?
2. How is your battery life?
3. Is your phone (with Touchwiz) still snappy or did it become slow?
4. Did you have problems with broken backs?
5. Does your phone run hot?
6. Would you still buy it now?
Thank you.
I was split between iphone 6 plus and note 5. But once I saw galaxy s6 my friend was using, I opted to go with galaxy s6 for a number of reasons:
1. RAM was a software issue, and after the recent update, I don't experience aggressive RAM management issue.
2. Battery life. Although not as large as Lg G4/note 5, it's enough, and usually lasts me a full day and a half of my normal use. Users complain of non-removeable battery, but I've never carried my extra battery on galaxy s4, so it was never a problem
3. Touchwiz is much less bogged down, and I really enjoy using it.
4. Build quality. No longer plastic, and I care for my phone, so I'm not worried about glass sandwich. Also, the back glass is relatively cheap and easy to replace, so I'm not concerned about it cracking/shattering.
5. The phone thankfully does NOT run hot. My ipad air 2 runs hotter than galaxy s6. I watch videos, and play intensive game (ie. vainglory/NFS), and haven't had issue with the temperature.
6. I would absolutely buy it. It's more compelling now, with the discounts, and deals.
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Hi, I'm currently the owner of a OPO and satisfied with performance an everything, but it's just too big. Thus I'll need a new phone for not more than 500€ and with a screen about 5 inches.
So I wanted to ask you GS6 owner if you're still satisfied with your phone after six months. Could you answer these questions?
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Thank you.
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1. Do you still have the out of RAM problem? I never really had an issue
2. How is your battery life? Not bad....not perfect, but it lasts all day
3. Is your phone (with Touchwiz) still snappy or did it become slow? I think so, but I use Nova Launcher for the customization
4. Did you have problems with broken backs? No
5. Does your phone run hot? No
6. Would you still buy it now? I might have to say no just because the S7 may be out sooner rather than later.
Yes I do.
I tried op2 and Z5 in last months, both good but S6 is still better (camera and general performance over all).
I'm waiting for meizu pro 5, maybe that will be as good as S6.
Thanks all for replying, I think I'll buy the S6 next month
If I needed a phone today, yes, no doubt. Otherwise I'd wait until the S7 comes out in Feb/March next year.
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If I needed a phone today, yes, no doubt. Otherwise I'd wait until the S7 comes out in Feb/March next year.
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Yes, but I won't spend more than 500€ and the S7 will be most likely 650€ or even more because of the weak euro... So I couldn't buy it anyway...
1. Do you still have the out of RAM problem? No
2. How is your battery life? Not bad but not extraordinary
3. Is your phone (with Touchwiz) still snappy or did it become slow? Fast fast very fast and touchwiz is great now
4. Did you have problems with broken backs? no
5. Does your phone run hot? no
6. Would you still buy it now? yes
Thank you.
Thanks again, another question to the Edge users: Is there any advantage the Edge has other than the better design?
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Hi, I'm currently the owner of a OPO and satisfied with performance an everything, but it's just too big. Thus I'll need a new phone for not more than 500€ and with a screen about 5 inches.
So I wanted to ask you GS6 owner if you're still satisfied with your phone after six months. Could you answer these questions?
1. Do you still have the out of RAM problem?
->I like this phone, but ANYbody says it have gone, is lying. Still there: 90% of time u have 15% or less ram free!, AND I flash always the latest FW from sammobile ! IT is And we only can hope 6.0 will fix it. I don't think so, just hope. Many people says this is exynos problem...we will see, or not, if I change from S6 only FOR THIS issue.
2. How is your battery life?
- >1 have to chare 2x-3x a day. your choice. ( I am playing Simcity Buildit, ALL THE TIME, bext to me, beside work, this eats a lot of SOT. just to note.
3. Is your phone (with Touchwiz) still snappy or did it become slow?
- > LAGGY is the better word.
4. Did you have problems with broken backs?
- > definetly NOT. one of the best thing is the BUILD quality.
5. Does your phone run hot?
-> I was holding a Xperia z3+. THAT was hot. THIS phone only gets HOT when running GFXBEnch 4.0. otherwise, 99% of time, the best 8 core SOC.
6. Would you still buy it now?
+7. CAMERA IS THE BEST U CAN BUY.
-> maybe. The problem is that nobody around me have Xperia z5. Only forums are to decide. BUt. S6 became CHEAP. compared to other flagships, Like z5, 6s, ...is anybody who makes similar to good?no. (lg g4 was good, but OLD).
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totom96 said:
Hi, I'm currently the owner of a OPO and satisfied with performance an everything, but it's just too big. Thus I'll need a new phone for not more than 500€ and with a screen about 5 inches.
So I wanted to ask you GS6 owner if you're still satisfied with your phone after six months. Could you answer these questions?
1. Do you still have the out of RAM problem?
->I like this phone, but ANYbody says it have gone, is lying. Still there: 90% of time u have 15% or less ram free!, AND I flash always the latest FW from sammobile ! IT is And we only can hope 6.0 will fix it. I don't think so, just hope. Many people says this is exynos problem...we will see, or not, if I change from S6 only FOR THIS issue.
2. How is your battery life?
- >1 have to chare 2x-3x a day. your choice. ( I am playing Simcity Buildit, ALL THE TIME, bext to me, beside work, this eats a lot of SOT. just to note.
3. Is your phone (with Touchwiz) still snappy or did it become slow?
- > LAGGY is the better word.
4. Did you have problems with broken backs?
- > definetly NOT. one of the best thing is the BUILD quality.
5. Does your phone run hot?
-> I was holding a Xperia z3+. THAT was hot. THIS phone only gets HOT when running GFXBEnch 4.0. otherwise, 99% of time, the best 8 core SOC.
6. Would you still buy it now?
+7. CAMERA IS THE BEST U CAN BUY.
-> maybe. The problem is that nobody around me have Xperia z5. Only forums are to decide. BUt. S6 became CHEAP. compared to other flagships, Like z5, 6s, ...is anybody who makes similar to good?no. (lg g4 was good, but OLD).
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Well, this is now a completely different opinion than the others had. Do you experience also application redraws because od thw ful RAM?
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tiborprogmed said:
Well, this is now a completely different opinion than the others had. Do you experience also application redraws because od thw ful RAM?
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Yes, I have this is obvious. But in overall this device worth to buy despite of this issue. (minor issue, and 6.0 is coming we hope )
But I have tried z3+, z5 and this photo,camera quality cannot be compared with s6.
One plus thing : quick charge. Samsung doing well, again, against other qualcom 2.0 Qucik charging devices. It push up the battery so fast, at least 20-30 minutes before z5 can do, for example.
I really would like to use z5 like sony device BUT the overheating issue, and the camera quality is terrible. STILL with todays's Sony z5 fw upgrade.
I always hated samsung device to hold. But i have to change my mind, competitors is even not just arround the corner. I am also waiting for Q820, BUT the thing that Qualcom have sent the 820 to samsung to help them is redicious.
s6 still the best in every aspects. there are issues, but cannot compared these to Q810 devices....
And S6's price are dropping to floor each day by day
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tiborprogmed said:
totom96 said:
Yes, I have this is obvious. But in overall this device worth to buy despite of this issue. (minor issue, and 6.0 is coming we hope )
But I have tried z3+, z5 and this photo,camera quality cannot be compared with s6.
One plus thing : quick charge. Samsung doing well, again, against other qualcom 2.0 Qucik charging devices. It push up the battery so fast, at least 20-30 minutes before z5 can do, for example.
I really would like to use z5 like sony device BUT the overheating issue, and the camera quality is terrible. STILL with todays's Sony z5 fw upgrade.
I always hated samsung device to hold. But i have to change my mind, competitors is even not just arround the corner. I am also waiting for Q820, BUT the thing that Qualcom have sent the 820 to samsung to help them is redicious.
s6 still the best in every aspects. there are issues, but cannot compared these to Q810 devices....
And S6's price are dropping to floor each day by day
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Well, lets hope for A6.0, but it could still take some months with samsung...
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I just bought the 6p, and I am contemplating selling the S6 - or using it as a backup phone. 6p is now going to be daily driver.
Well, lets hope for A6.0, but it could still take some months with samsung...[/QUOTE]
http://www.timesnews.co.uk/6608-exclusive-samsung-galaxy-android-marshmallow-update-roadmap-leaked/
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I just bought the 6p, and I am contemplating selling the S6 - or using it as a backup phone. 6p is now going to be daily driver.
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Yes . Good device. AND q810. How Google could manage the 810? WHY are not heats up like in other devices?
What is your experience? please let us know.
thx.
totom96 said:
Hi, I'm currently the owner of a OPO and satisfied with performance an everything, but it's just too big. Thus I'll need a new phone for not more than 500€ and with a screen about 5 inches.
So I wanted to ask you GS6 owner if you're still satisfied with your phone after six months. Could you answer these questions?
1. Do you still have the out of RAM problem?
2. How is your battery life?
3. Is your phone (with Touchwiz) still snappy or did it become slow?
4. Did you have problems with broken backs?
5. Does your phone run hot?
6. Would you still buy it now?
Thank you.
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I will add my experience to the one that said not so good things about the phone.
1. Do you still have the out of RAM problem?
This problem is still there. I think that whoever says it's gone, does not know how it shows up. It's not about how much RAM you have free or not, or how much it lags on daily use within an app, but how many apps it can hold open at the same time. This is clear when you open some apps and "exit" them using the home button instead of the back button. You can easily see that if you open a webpage in Chrome, open a couple other apps (always using the home button, not exiting with the back button) that when you go back to Chrome, the website reloads from scratch, meaning that the RAM manager has killed the app and has to fetch everything again. So no, the RAM problem is far from solved. Hope they fix it in future updates, but I wouldn't bet on it.
2. How is your battery life?
I feel this aspect is really flimsy and blame it a lot on Google and it's Play Services. It can't be that while rarely installing or changing apps or they way I use the phone, my battery life is so irregular. Some weeks it's good, some is downright bad, then back to normal, I don't know. I suspect that the only thing that can change and affect this without me noticing apart from the battery life, is the Google Play Services and their shadowy background updates. The first weeks with the phone I was seeing like around 4hs or more SoT, and now 3 months later, I see from 2 and a half to 3. Had the same wobbly behavior with my previous phone (OPO), sometimes great SoT, sometimes just bad.
3. Is your phone (with Touchwiz) still snappy or did it become slow?
I would say that it might have changed but not substantially. It's by no means slow or unacceptably laggy. It's clearly no Nexus, but if you already know what to expect, I'd say it's good. In a scale from 1 to 5, being 1 painfully slow and 5 Nexus like, I'd give it something between 3.5 and 4. It's ok but it could be better.
4. Did you have problems with broken backs?
Not at all. The phone is not that heavy LOL. Now seriously, if there's something that I, as a Samsung hater between the S3 and S5 era, can congratulate Samsung for, is the build quality and materials. Top notch all the way. Solid and precisely crafted.
5. Does your phone run hot?
I notice it gets hot sometimes on the top right frame (above the power button), but you notice it just if you go and touch that part, the whole phone does not seem to have a problem with temperature. Didn't try to push it to have one, though.
6. Would you still buy it now?
I've been looking for a replacement just because I miss stock Android and the Nexus brand, but I am really not convinced by any of the Nexus since the OG Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 is just gigantic, not for me (the OPO was big for me, that's why I ended up with the S6 and love the size, it's perfect. Although I'd prefer it to be thicker to even out the camera bump and make space for a bigger battery. I don't win anything by having a phone this thin compared to this thin + 1mm of the camera bump, I think that decision was just dumb). The Nexus 6p is way better but still big (it's bigger than the OPO) and there are way too many reports for me to jump on it yet. The Nexus 5x does not convince me because I feel Google made it worse on purpose so that people preferred the 6p over the 5x, not just for the price. I would have loved to have a 5x with the specs and benefits (for example, the extra cable or the higher framerate filming due to the extra power of the processor).
Would you still buy a S6/S6 Edge today?
With all that said, I think that today as they said before, with the prices dropping, it's a great option. Even more if you care a bit about the camera, which is awesome. If it only had a bit better battery life, I would not think about replacing it anytime soon, but that and having stock Android always makes me think about other devices. Maybe I'll root and put a custom ROM to it, a stock based one, but with better battery life and less bloat. OH, SPEAKING OF BLOAT: it comes bundled in with some Cheetah Mobile software that cannot be uninstalled or disabled. That drives me freaking nuts and I hate both Samsung and Cheetah Mobile for that. Like, bad. For reference: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JuanManuelTastzian/posts/88sYktUP7oq
Hope this helps and sorry if the post is too long.
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Well, lets hope for A6.0, but it could still take some months with samsung...
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Yes . Good device. AND q810. How Google could manage the 810? WHY are not heats up like in other devices?
What is your experience? please let us know.
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Not experienced any overheating so far, in fact just picked it up from my desk and it's cold to touch - which in my opinion is a nice feel.
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I will add my experience to the one that said not so good things about the phone.
1. Do you still have the out of RAM problem?
This problem is still there. I think that whoever says it's gone, does not know how it shows up. It's not about how much RAM you have free or not, or how much it lags on daily use within an app, but how many apps it can hold open at the same time. This is clear when you open some apps and "exit" them using the home button instead of the back button. You can easily see that if you open a webpage in Chrome, open a couple other apps (always using the home button, not exiting with the back button) that when you go back to Chrome, the website reloads from scratch, meaning that the RAM manager has killed the app and has to fetch everything again. So no, the RAM problem is far from solved. Hope they fix it in future updates, but I wouldn't bet on it.
2. How is your battery life?
I feel this aspect is really flimsy and blame it a lot on Google and it's Play Services. It can't be that while rarely installing or changing apps or they way I use the phone, my battery life is so irregular. Some weeks it's good, some is downright bad, then back to normal, I don't know. I suspect that the only thing that can change and affect this without me noticing apart from the battery life, is the Google Play Services and their shadowy background updates. The first weeks with the phone I was seeing like around 4hs or more SoT, and now 3 months later, I see from 2 and a half to 3. Had the same wobbly behavior with my previous phone (OPO), sometimes great SoT, sometimes just bad.
3. Is your phone (with Touchwiz) still snappy or did it become slow?
I would say that it might have changed but not substantially. It's by no means slow or unacceptably laggy. It's clearly no Nexus, but if you already know what to expect, I'd say it's good. In a scale from 1 to 5, being 1 painfully slow and 5 Nexus like, I'd give it something between 3.5 and 4. It's ok but it could be better.
4. Did you have problems with broken backs?
Not at all. The phone is not that heavy LOL. Now seriously, if there's something that I, as a Samsung hater between the S3 and S5 era, can congratulate Samsung for, is the build quality and materials. Top notch all the way. Solid and precisely crafted.
5. Does your phone run hot?
I notice it gets hot sometimes on the top right frame (above the power button), but you notice it just if you go and touch that part, the whole phone does not seem to have a problem with temperature. Didn't try to push it to have one, though.
6. Would you still buy it now?
I've been looking for a replacement just because I miss stock Android and the Nexus brand, but I am really not convinced by any of the Nexus since the OG Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 is just gigantic, not for me (the OPO was big for me, that's why I ended up with the S6 and love the size, it's perfect. Although I'd prefer it to be thicker to even out the camera bump and make space for a bigger battery. I don't win anything by having a phone this thin compared to this thin + 1mm of the camera bump, I think that decision was just dumb). The Nexus 6p is way better but still big (it's bigger than the OPO) and there are way too many reports for me to jump on it yet. The Nexus 5x does not convince me because I feel Google made it worse on purpose so that people preferred the 6p over the 5x, not just for the price. I would have loved to have a 5x with the specs and benefits (for example, the extra cable or the higher framerate filming due to the extra power of the processor).
Would you still buy a S6/S6 Edge today?
With all that said, I think that today as they said before, with the prices dropping, it's a great option. Even more if you care a bit about the camera, which is awesome. If it only had a bit better battery life, I would not think about replacing it anytime soon, but that and having stock Android always makes me think about other devices. Maybe I'll root and put a custom ROM to it, a stock based one, but with better battery life and less bloat. OH, SPEAKING OF BLOAT: it comes bundled in with some Cheetah Mobile software that cannot be uninstalled or disabled. That drives me freaking nuts and I hate both Samsung and Cheetah Mobile for that. Like, bad. For reference: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JuanManuelTastzian/posts/88sYktUP7oq
Hope this helps and sorry if the post is too long.
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Thank you for your post. I currently also have the OPO and it's too big and the battery sucks since 5.0. I get a bit over 2h of screen on time, but I read on most pages that the S6 would have way higher screen on time, so what do you think? Is it really that bad currently?
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Thank you for your post. I currently also have the OPO and it's too big and the battery sucks since 5.0. I get a bit over 2h of screen on time, but I read on most pages that the S6 would have way higher screen on time, so what do you think? Is it really that bad currently?
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I have also read that, but I kinda get similar times as I did with the OPO. Take into account that apps you usually use and the signal quality of the places you use to visit have impact on battery life, so the best way to measure it is to find someone who has a similar usage to yours, which is hard. That's why I just tell you that the battery life between those devices is similar, or maybe a bit worse on the S6, but not significantly, so I think you'll have a similar experience. I also envy those I see with 4, 5, even 6 hours SoT with the S6 and I can only blame the apps and network coverage, because otherwise I don't understand why the difference is so big.
no, i wouldn't, because i would get the NOTE 5...it's the same device with bigger screen, better battery, and s pen....that's the only reason....and the ram is always between 70-80% so it's better than 5.0.2.....and i won't call the phone laggy...sometimes it stutters but it doesn't lag, most of the time everything opens really fast.....battery is about the same as 5.0.2...3-4 SOT....
Hey Guys,
My first post here. I need to pick a phone for my work by tomorrow (I got the notice just today). The options are Galaxy S6 vs iPhone 6. I am really confused between which one to pick.
Here is my situation. I have used both Android & iOS till now. I currently use a Moto E for work. Terrible phone (but built like a TANK!). Before this, I was using iPhone 5 which I didn't mind (loved the camera). I don't know if this should factor in my decision - but I also own iPad Air (love it), Apple TV (meh so far) & Samsung TV. I do not own a Macbook (good old Windows here, HP Probook). I do not subscribe to Apple services like Apple Music or iCloud. I use Google services a lot - hangouts, gmail, maps & will also use google photos when I get the new phone.
iPhone 6 is rated incredibly highly on amazon.com whereas I have been reading about battery issues on the Galaxy S6. I would love the larger screen on GS6 but I am a bit wary of the glass back. Also, if I can't get through the day without recharging - it's a deal breaker for me (I am a moderate user). All the google apps I use are also on iOS and as I said earlier, I am not invested in Apple specific apps/services. I do not intend to root or jailbreak either phone.
I am cautiously optimistic about Now on Tap, in my heart of heart I love the material design philosophy and I am more likely to buy an Android wear watch in the future (if ever) than an apple watch. I am inclined towards Galaxy S6 (when I put things on paper) but I suppose I am looking for a validation that that the device (and by extension Marshmallow) is without significant flaws (terrible battery, hung UI, random restarts and so on). I would really appreciate if you guys can share your experiences on GS6 & Marshmallow/Android reliability.
Thanks for your time!
I am running MM Unofficial 6.01 and no lags, no battery problems, everything is butter smooth, if I had to pick I would go for GS6 bc custom rom's etc, but if your not interested in that then I would pick the iPhone 6
If you want regular updates -> iPhone
If you want better camera -> Samsung
Thanks fellow Brabantian! How difficult/easy is it to go for an unofficial MM on GS6? Does it void warranty? Sorry, I have not yet searched the forum on this topic yet...
Ram management in GS6 is terrible, while iphone is solid OS, but GS6 is killer in hardware and stupid in software( touchwiz) but i didn't test GS6 in MM so i don't know if any improvement , and GS6 has nice super charge feature which is very useful.
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The S6 has no issues with battery for me, I use it from 9am to 5pm with mobile data enabled and occasional facebook/whatsapp use with 60% charge.
The camera is outstanding, but it is terrible for close range as it cannot focus.
All in all, if you want constant updates for the future, go with the iPhone, but if you want pure stability for the OS, get the S6.
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If you want regular updates -> iPhone
If you want better camera -> Samsung
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Thanks Harris. iOS updates don't excite me tons. You would rate GS6 camera higher than iP6?
ham4ever said:
Ram management in GS6 is terrible, while iphone is solid OS, but GS6 is killer in hardware and stupid in software( touchwiz) but i didn't test GS6 in MM so i don't know if any improvement , and GS6 has nice super charge feature which is very useful.
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Thanks for sharing your views. It's amazing that even with 3 gigs of RAM - there's still memory management issues! Do you experience slowdown or hung apps or delay in launching apps? As regards software, I anyways plan to use one of the launchers to over-ride Touchwiz - can't stand it.
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The S6 has no issues with battery for me, I use it from 9am to 5pm with mobile data enabled and occasional facebook/whatsapp use with 60% charge.
The camera is outstanding, but it is terrible for close range as it cannot focus.
All in all, if you want constant updates for the future, go with the iPhone, but if you want pure stability for the OS, get the S6.
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That sounds like the kind of usage I have. As regards camera not being able to focus, is this an issue even if you use a third party camera app?
raovb said:
Thanks for sharing your views. It's amazing that even with 3 gigs of RAM - there's still memory management issues! Do you experience slowdown or hung apps or delay in launching apps? As regards software, I anyways plan to use one of the launchers to over-ride Touchwiz - can't stand it.
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Just when open fb and Twitter with couple of chrome pages, then everything in the back has to reload, so if u switch between apps then this is annoying, i don't notice hung apps but i would like to back to the app same place where i left it open , am just waiting for the iphone 7 to switch to it
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That sounds like the kind of usage I have. As regards camera not being able to focus, is this an issue even if you use a third party camera app?
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I wouldn't know, but it is only where it is properly close range, probably up to 20cm away than it can focus.
raovb said:
Hey Guys,
My first post here. I need to pick a phone for my work by tomorrow (I got the notice just today). The options are Galaxy S6 vs iPhone 6. I am really confused between which one to pick.
Here is my situation. I have used both Android & iOS till now. I currently use a Moto E for work. Terrible phone (but built like a TANK!). Before this, I was using iPhone 5 which I didn't mind (loved the camera). I don't know if this should factor in my decision - but I also own iPad Air (love it), Apple TV (meh so far) & Samsung TV. I do not own a Macbook (good old Windows here, HP Probook). I do not subscribe to Apple services like Apple Music or iCloud. I use Google services a lot - hangouts, gmail, maps & will also use google photos when I get the new phone.
iPhone 6 is rated incredibly highly on amazon.com whereas I have been reading about battery issues on the Galaxy S6. I would love the larger screen on GS6 but I am a bit wary of the glass back. Also, if I can't get through the day without recharging - it's a deal breaker for me (I am a moderate user). All the google apps I use are also on iOS and as I said earlier, I am not invested in Apple specific apps/services. I do not intend to root or jailbreak either phone.
I am cautiously optimistic about Now on Tap, in my heart of heart I love the material design philosophy and I am more likely to buy an Android wear watch in the future (if ever) than an apple watch. I am inclined towards Galaxy S6 (when I put things on paper) but I suppose I am looking for a validation that that the device (and by extension Marshmallow) is without significant flaws (terrible battery, hung UI, random restarts and so on). I would really appreciate if you guys can share your experiences on GS6 & Marshmallow/Android reliability.
Thanks for your time!
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the gs6 is the best overall phone right now...and especially the edge version is also the best looking one...iphone 6 is crap in comparison...battery is good enough for me with 5+ hours SOT...ram management issues are way overrated and with MM this phone flies...and since your not about custom roms then it fits perfectly your needs...you can get the upcoming s7 if you want the best
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Thanks fellow Brabantian! How difficult/easy is it to go for an unofficial MM on GS6? Does it void warranty? Sorry, I have not yet searched the forum on this topic yet...
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Isn't hard at all I must say! And yes it does void the warranty but it's was definitely worth it for me!
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On paper the S6 is better, but nothing is more true. The hardware will never be fine tuned to the OS like Apple does it. Without root and flashing cynogenmod rom there is no fun in having an Android phone, especially no fun in having the S6.
For basic daily use like you say; mails etc. I'd just go with the iPhone 6. They receive updates way way faster. Let's say android N gets released in june 2016, it will be available for the S6 in march 2017. with the iPhone 6 you will have the newest iOS for the next 6 years (seeing that the iPhone 4s got iOS 9), something you can't expect from any android device.
Also stock S6 without apps like Powernap, Amplify, Disable services and Greenify will give you really terrible idle battery drain. This battery drain is only worse in the android M update, even when it has Doze. This will be better with later updates, but expect these updates to take 2 months atleast.
Seeing that you didn't enjoy the iPhone 5 it wouldn't really make sense to even get an iPhone 6, since the iOS is the same, but it's packed with better hardware and a bigger screen. If it was the hardware you didn't like, then maybe the 6 is an upgrade but if it's the software you can't stad (like me) then just don't get the iPhone, especially not if you won't jailbreak it.
Ram management is overhyped and shouldn't be looked at. Android M has amazing performance, it's butter smooth compared to what we have on Lollipop now.
Conclusion: get a dfferent android device than the galaxy s6, for example the Z5 premium is nice.
If you want 1 button --> iphone
If you want anything that makes sense --> any other phone except iPhone
I'm running the s6 edge on 6.01 and yes it's smooth. But truth be honest. Battery is just as bad on 6.01 as on 5.11.
I had the iPhone 6 plus before and I honestly regret getting the s6 edge insted of it.
If I had to pick now knowing what I know about both I would stay on the iPhone 6 plus.
I've had enough of Samsung and Android bad optimization and I've had htc one before and so on.
I will change to iPhone 7 this summer myself. But like I said. If I had to choose right now. I would pick the iPhone 6
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I've never had a problem making it comfortable through the day with moderate use, either before on Lollipop or now on Marshmallow beta. Stock, no root, greenify or anything of the sort.Then again, I don't use facebook, twitter or any other crappy social media battery leeches.
I'd never trade my S6 for an iPhone, that's for sure. I find the hardware ugly and overpriced, and the software too restrictive and boring for my liking. A matter of taste, admittedly.
I have both. I use iphone 6 for work email and calendar coz of optimised sync through airwatch , for everything else I always reach out to my SGS6 128GB. SGS 6 is definitely a better entertainment machine and screen size / resolution is awesome compared to IPHONE 6 (DON'T believe apple hype on retina display and human eye cannot see beyond retina..b***s***t) side by side there is a very clear difference and iphone 6 display is no match for GS6. And battery for both is almost similar. I'm a heavy user & both will last a day only. Will need recharge every night.
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Thanks Harris. iOS updates don't excite me tons. You would rate GS6 camera higher than iP6?
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Camera is much much better on GS6
You won't be disappointed with either or. But having said that:
If you're a very picky perfectionist, go for the iphone 6.
If you transfer files/media on the go frequently, galaxy s6.