Vinsic 3A USB-C Car Charger - Nexus 6P Accessories

Got this in tonight, thought I'd share some pics. All of the paperwork that came with it is pretty much either how to return stuff you don't like or how to post a review on Amazon lol. The pictures attached show you all the information on the actual charger. I obviously don't have anything that can use the Type C for it yet but I will charge my lg g3 with a regular micro USB tomorrow. If anyone knows of a way for me to do some testing and tells me how I'm more than willing to do it.
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I got the StillGut, look like the exact thing. I'll take some picture.

Download Battery Monitor Widget app. That'll show you roughly what the charge rate is.
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Hayaku said:
Download Battery Monitor Widget app. That'll show you roughly what the charge rate is.
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I'll get it now.
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Yoobao looks the same as the Visnic and Stilgut
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...car charger&qid=1444181035&ref_=sr_1_6&sr=8-6

Hayaku said:
Download Battery Monitor Widget app. That'll show you roughly what the charge rate is.
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I see several in the Play Store, which one? I downloaded and tried one out but they said that my wireless charging is -7000 percent.

RED ZMAN said:
I see several in the Play Store, which one? I downloaded and tried one out but they said that my wireless charging is -7000 percent.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Or
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
They might not be calibrated for your G4(?). If it shows some whacky +/- 4000mah, then it's obviously wrong.

I got this too. I would try it with my Pixel, but I'm not sure there is any way to measure the charging current. I also need to wait for my type-c to type-c cables to show up from China...

It's says 3A on the charger by the ports, but does that mean its 3A divided among both usb points or 3A in each point?
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DrunkFuX666 said:
It's says 3A on the charger by the ports, but does that mean its 3A divided among both usb points or 3A in each point?
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As per one of the description on Amazon:
2x 1.5A if both ports are in use
or 1x 3A if single port (which is what RED ZMAN is hopefully able to test for us)

AFAIK you can't deliver 5V @ 3A over a USB-A connector... that is wholly unique to USB Type-C. The best you can do with USB Power Delivery spec is 5V @ 2A. So IF this charger can really deliver 15W power, it will only be via the USB-C port. I plan on testing with my Chromebook Pixel using a USB-A to USB-C and a USB-C to USB-C. I don't think I can measure actual wattage, but I can compare "time to full" calculations using each port.

Hayaku said:
As per one of the description on Amazon:
2x 1.5A if both ports are in use
or 1x 3A if single port (which is what RED ZMAN is hopefully able to test for us)
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I messed around with it today along with several different apps to try to measure the actual charge rate but wasn't successful. The LG g3 seems to have issues with most of these apps and the ones that showed readings that looked meaningful we're showing things like 520 mAh. This was with a decent quality cable that I have grown to trust quite a bit.
I have some types C cables coming but without anything to plug it into I really can't do much more measuring. I will say this does not feel like a cheap charger and I'm kind of impressed with how good it looks in the car. It also did seem to be charging my phone very well, and was a consistent 50 to 70 mah higher than the other charger I was using which was the accessory USB A port for a Tylt Qi wireless charger dock/mount.
Hopefully somebody with a USB C device they can measure with is able to get us good readings.

Skitals said:
AFAIK you can't deliver 5V @ 3A over a USB-A connector... that is wholly unique to USB Type-C. The best you can do with USB Power Delivery spec is 5V @ 2A. So IF this charger can really deliver 15W power, it will only be via the USB-C port. I plan on testing with my Chromebook Pixel using a USB-A to USB-C and a USB-C to USB-C. I don't think I can measure actual wattage, but I can compare "time to full" calculations using each port.
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I'm pretty sure you're right about the limits of the USB-A. I think it's limited to 2.1A, so yeah, you'll need to have a type-c to type-c cable with a 5v/3a charger to get this to work. Ah well, the micro-usb run was nice while it lasted.
Question for the OP also, how well does the charger fit in the outlet? I read a few reviews on Amazon that say it's pretty loose in some and doesn't stay seated.

akwally1 said:
I'm pretty sure you're right about the limits of the USB-A. I think it's limited to 2.1A, so yeah, you'll need to have a type-c to type-c cable with a 5v/3a charger to get this to work. Ah well, the micro-usb run was nice while it lasted.
Question for the OP also, how well does the charger fit in the outlet? I read a few reviews on Amazon that say it's pretty loose in some and doesn't stay seated.
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We had no problems at all with it staying in place. I use a lot of retractable cables so you're pulling on them to let them retract and it never moved unless they directly pulled on the charger. Tight fit.
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interested in updates. although i'd like to see a charger that doesn't split the amperage between ports. i have a BT receiver and a charging cable in the device that i have now, so if there's one that can provide power to both A and C without splitting, that would be ideal.

who know, it's 3A at 5V, no one will know until we have the 6p

Skitals said:
AFAIK you can't deliver 5V @ 3A over a USB-A connector... that is wholly unique to USB Type-C. The best you can do with USB Power Delivery spec is 5V @ 2A. So IF this charger can really deliver 15W power, it will only be via the USB-C port. I plan on testing with my Chromebook Pixel using a USB-A to USB-C and a USB-C to USB-C. I don't think I can measure actual wattage, but I can compare "time to full" calculations using each port.
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Why does the google usb a to usb c cable say it can do 3A 5V?

Chilidog said:
Why does the google usb a to usb c cable say it can do 3A 5V?
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Hmm, you got me there. I got in my Cable Matters USB-C to USB-C cable, to go along with my USB-A to USB-C cable. Sometime soon I will try both with the Vinsic charger and my Chromebook Pixel and see if they both charge at the same speed. I'm still not sure if Chrome OS has a "time to full" charging indicator or anything, though. With the Pixels 60W Type-C charger, the thing charges so dang fast it's almost always fully charged

You can use an app called GSam battery to measure the current, very interested to know if the A port is a proper 3A one

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Confirmed Rapid Charging Combo (MBP + Techmatte USB-C Cable)

So i can confirm that the following combo works for rapid charging on this phone.
Please delete this if a thread like this exists already
my combo is my Macbook Pro Retina 13" from 2013 (i think). it has USB 3.0
Techmatte USB-C to USB-A, 5FT
http://smile.amazon.com/TechMatte®-...8&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=techmatte+usb+c&psc=1
the phone registers as rapid charging.
Check out the Ampere screenshot as well
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I haven't seen a laptop let alone a MB that supports 2-3A on a dedicated/non dedicated charging USB port. I could very well be wrong but we need a picture of the phone plugged into the laptop to prove that rather than a screenshot. I'm not saying you're not correct but we need better evidence to confirm it
I concur with his findings. I plugged an A to C cable I bought off amazon into my 2012 MBP and it registered as rapidly charging as well but I didn't test the speed in ampere as I figured it was wrong lol.
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toyanucci said:
I concur with his findings. I plugged an A to C cable I bought off amazon into my 2012 MBP and it registered as rapidly charging as well but I didn't test the speed in ampere as I figured it was wrong lol.
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I used to have a MB Pro as well (2011?) and it never fast charged my phone at the time. I have long since moved on to a PC (that was my only mac ever) and since I don't use it to charge my phone I couldn't tell you whether its just a MB thing.
Anything over 2000mA shows as rapidly charging. 2000mA is 2/3rd the charging rate of the oem type-c charger. Make of that what you will.
Pilz said:
I used to have a MB Pro as well (2011?) and it never fast charged my phone at the time. I have long since moved on to a PC (that was my only mac ever) and since I don't use it to charge my phone I couldn't tell you whether its just a MB thing.
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You're right. My MBP doesn't charge even my regular samsung devices fast so idk how the 6P shows rapid charge.
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toyanucci said:
You're right. My MBP doesn't charge even my regular samsung devices fast so idk how the 6P shows rapid charge.
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I thought I was crazy for a minute because I had a s3/Note 3 when I had my MB Pro and they never charged faster. I'm glad you can substantiate that since I no longer have a Samsung phone or MB.
Read all of the information written by Benson Leung and co. An improperly made A->C cable will register as rapid charging because the wrong resistors are in the cable and allows the device to try to pull more amperage from the USB port than USB Type A is meant to handle. You shouldn't try to do this, it's going to damage your USB ports on your devices, or make your chargers burn up.
USB Type A cannot rapid charge a Nexus 6P without it defying the specifications for USB Type A and potentially damaging your charging source. If you have a cable that does this, you should not do it.
Only rapid charging from C -> C cables is safe.
smeggysmeg said:
Read all of the information written by Benson Leung and co. An improperly made A->C cable will register as rapid charging because the wrong resistors are in the cable and allows the device to try to pull more amperage from the USB port than USB Type A is meant to handle. You shouldn't try to do this, it's going to damage your USB ports on your devices, or make your chargers burn up.
USB Type A cannot rapid charge a Nexus 6P without it defying the specifications for USB Type A and potentially damaging your charging source. If you have a cable that does this, you should not do it.
Only rapid charging from C -> C cables is safe.
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Read Leung's reviews again!
He is correct that the cables he is reviewing have the wrong pull-up resistor according to the specs.
However, any potential negative consequences (never confirmed in his tests, just a possibility) are confined to the Chromebook Pixel and what it might do in a situation faced with this cable. It tells us nothing about any other product.
He has recently dropped the scare tactics and now limits his remarks to the failure of the cable to charge the Pixel.
"Specifically, these adapters do not charge the Chromebook Pixel 2015 because the adapters leave the C-C lines floating, where the specification requires a Rp pullup to Vbus to identify the cable as a legacy adapter or cable."
You can safely get more than 2A to the 6P via a Type A to Type C connection. Therefore, you will be (in Google's estimation) "Charging Rapidly". It generally takes an out of spec cable and specific chargers. The easiest way is the Google Chargers that are Type C however. But there are no Type C 5V/3A car chargers available yet. The closest we have seen is the Tronsmart Car charger that has been shown to deliver 2.7A to the Nexus 6P, but will not charge a Chromebook Pixel 2015 because it does not have the correct pullup resistor.
dwswager said:
Read Leung's reviews again!
He is correct that the cables he is reviewing have the wrong pull-up resistor according to the specs.
However, any potential negative consequences (never confirmed in his tests, just a possibility) are confined to the Chromebook Pixel and what it might do in a situation faced with this cable. It tells us nothing about any other product.
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It absolutely is NOT confined to the Pixel. The video posted here proves it. Any device capable of pulling more current than the charger is rated to supply will pose this problem.
dwswager said:
He has recently dropped the scare tactics and now limits his remarks to the failure of the cable to charge the Pixel.
"Specifically, these adapters do not charge the Chromebook Pixel 2015 because the adapters leave the C-C lines floating, where the specification requires a Rp pullup to Vbus to identify the cable as a legacy adapter or cable."
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Scare tactics? He's informing consumers of an out of specification product which could be harmful. Including more information on the specifics of how he tested this isn't "dropping" a scare tactic.
dwswager said:
It generally takes an out of spec cable and specific chargers.
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Slightly misleading: Any charging current over (approx) 2.0A will show as rapidly charging, which can be accomplished with in-specification and out-of-specification cables.
dwswager said:
The closest we have seen is the Tronsmart Car charger that has been shown to deliver 2.7A to the Nexus 6P, but will not charge a Chromebook Pixel 2015 because it does not have the correct pullup resistor.
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Which demonstrates that the device is unsafe. It's rated for 2.4A, the Nexus 6p pulls 2.7A. The device is not not greatly exceeding it's own rated output, but it is still exceeding the rated output. The Pixel, being able to draw far more current, browned out the charger altogether.
Elnrik said:
It absolutely is NOT confined to the Pixel. The video posted here proves it. Any device capable of pulling more current than the charger is rated to supply will pose this problem.
Scare tactics? He's informing consumers of an out of specification product which could be harmful. Including more information on the specifics of how he tested this isn't "dropping" a scare tactic.
Slightly misleading: Any charging current over (approx) 2.0A will show as rapidly charging, which can be accomplished with in-specification and out-of-specification cables.
Which demonstrates that the device is unsafe. It's rated for 2.4A, the Nexus 6p pulls 2.7A. The device is not not greatly exceeding it's own rated output, but it is still exceeding the rated output. The Pixel, being able to draw far more current, browned out the charger altogether.
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1. Considering that Leung's points are that the "out of spec" cable can lead to fires and won't charge a Pixel, if the video doesn't show a charger fire and it shows charging of other devices, then it is confined to the Pixel!
2. His real point is that a Pixel 2015 will not charge from a cable with the wrong pull-up resistor. He threw in the charger fire issue to get attention and it worked. That is all anyone discussed.
3. Yes, it can be achieved with in spec cables, but what we are really hoping for is greater than 2.4A from Type A to Type C chargers and cables and that should not happen with in spec cables.
4. It's called margin. Tronsmart has said that it is designed to output 2.7A so that within quality limits, no unit will output less than 2.4A. And that means some lucky guys will get the ones at the other end that will output more significantly more than 2.7A. It would only be unsafe if the overcurrent or over temperature protection circuits allow the device to run over capacity. The rating is the least it should do.
Rapid charging displayed on the phone does NOT indicate more than 2000ma charging. My video proves this, the phone shows "rapid charging" using the cable with the incorrect pull-up resistor even when it is hooked up to a charger that is putting out significantly less than 1 amp. The rapid charging message seems to indicate only that the phone *believes* it is hooked up to a 3-amp, type-C charger.
For the original poster, a 2013 Macbook Pro supposedly will output a regulated 900mah to non-apple devices and 1100mah to apple devices (ipad etc). If you are succesfully getting 2000+ma out of it I suspect that either you are somehow pushing the ports well beyond safe limits (which shouldn't be possible), or there is a measurement error using the "Ampere" software.
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But there are no Type C 5V/3A car chargers available yet.
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that's not true, the vinsic is rated 5w/3a and I can pull that either via the type a or c port. tested with ampere on both the 5x and 6p
ackattacker said:
Rapid charging displayed on the phone does NOT indicate more than 2000ma charging. My video proves this, the phone shows "rapid charging" using the cable with the incorrect pull-up resistor even when it is hooked up to a charger that is putting out significantly less than 1 amp. The rapid charging message seems to indicate only that the phone *believes* it is hooked up to a 3-amp, type-C charger.
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That is extremely good information to have. It supports using some method of monitoring charging beyond the stock charging notifications.
kellybrf said:
that's not true, the vinsic is rated 5w/3a and I can pull that either via the type a or c port. tested with ampere on both the 5x and 6p
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Cool. That's the first I seen of a car charger that can output 3A. Seems this is badged under a number of different brands and other had reported those other brand can't get to 3A. I'm assuming you are talking about this Vinsic.
It is a shame it is not 5.4A so you could use both ports simultaneously and still get 3A out to the 6P. They will come...I hope!
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Rapid charging displayed on the phone does NOT indicate more than 2000ma charging. My video proves this, the phone shows "rapid charging" using the cable with the incorrect pull-up resistor even when it is hooked up to a charger that is putting out significantly less than 1 amp. The rapid charging message seems to indicate only that the phone *believes* it is hooked up to a 3-amp, type-C charger
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That matches my experience too. And considering there is no fast charging technology employed in the Nexus phones, it makes sense that it is based on what the phone thinks the charger supply.

[SPAM] rapid charger that actually works for the Nexus 6p!!

Just like everyone else I've been searching for a good aftermarket charger for my phone. I purchased the Choetech rapid adapter along with the cable (sold separately) and it works beautifully.. The Nexus 6p shows rapid charging on the home screen and Ampere showed the same.
How does that compare to the OEM charger that came with the Nexus 6p? The OEM charger charged at 2920ma, while the Choetech adapter and cable charged at 2840ma. So as you can see it's right on par with the OEM charger.
Build Quality:
The build quality is exactly what you expect to received from Choetech. The body of the charger is similar to the OEM charger with smooth sides and flat top and bottom. There's branding on the the front as you see in the pictures, with specifications information next to the electrical prongs. As for the cable there's more Choetech branding on each end, but it's not intrusive and blends in with the cable. The cable material is thick which is a very good thing, as it should be able to provide adequate power and durability. I'm very happy with this cable and plan to buy another soon. Here's my setup and I did a quick video review as well. Be warned I've read reviews showing that some users received a 2.4v model only... If you watch my videos you will clearly see my charger says 3A/5V and it charges at that speed.
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The quality on this cable is durable. It does pull 3A, as described, without any issues. charged my phone from 17% to 100% in
1 hour 20 min. It charges just as fast as google's provided cable.
and for the USB type-A to type C cable is also reliable. Checkr app tested and confirmed it is safe for the 2.4A (slower)rapid
charging if the power adapter can support upto 2.4A.
I will recommend this to anyone who wants a spare cable for USB-C just like me. leave one at home, and take this with me
anywhere I go to charge the device.
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Is it just me or does that cable appear to struggle to charge as well as OEM? Your comparison graph shows the goggle cable working consistently better and the choetech cable never reaching the current the oem cable does.
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conceyted said:
Is it just me or does that cable appear to struggle to charge as well as OEM? Your comparison graph shows the goggle cable working consistently better and the choetech cable never reaching the current the oem cable does.
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Well, if you see the graph more closely my phone had less battery percentage for the Google's cable. I believe hungrier the battery, faster it takes. You will never see full capacity current draw at higher battery percentage.
I just bought this USB-C charger with CC cable.
It's on it's way...can't wait to test it.
You also need to make sure you order the updated version. The first version didn't comply with type c standards.
Might just go with the one on the Google website now, since it's only a few dollars more and it'll probably ship faster. Amazon says it'll arrive after Christmas now.
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You also need to make sure you order the updated version. The first version didn't comply with type c standards.
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What are you talking about? There's only one version. I was the first one on this forum to get it (as far as I know) and it works just like the Google charger.
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The quality on this cable is durable. It does pull 3A, as described, without any issues. charged my phone from 17% to 100% in
1 hour 20 min. It charges just as fast as google's provided cable.
and for the USB type-A to type C cable is also reliable. Checkr app tested and confirmed it is safe for the 2.4A (slower)rapid
charging if the power adapter can support upto 2.4A.
I will recommend this to anyone who wants a spare cable for USB-C just like me. leave one at home, and take this with me
anywhere I go to charge the device.
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So you're saying the cable for sure goes up to 2.4A? Your pictures aren't showing up - just wanted to make sure.
I asked about USB-A to C before and someone was very adamant in saying, "The USB standard for an in spec Type A to C cable will charge at 1.5A. "
What does Benson Leung say about this product?
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trama09 said:
So you're saying the cable for sure goes up to 2.4A? You're pictures aren't showing up - just wanted to make sure.
I asked about USB-A to C before and someone was very adamant in saying, "The USB standard for an in spec Type A to C cable will charge at 1.5A. "
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I don't have quick charger 2.0 brick or equivalent. The most I got is a Samsung brick that goes 2A at the most and I did get near that. When I get a hand on better adapter, I will test it out.
For 3A fast charging speeds, USB C Charger with CC cable is the only way
Well, I'm pretty sure that simply put, A to C reaches only 2.4A at maximum, no matter what wall charger you use. If you want full 3A fast charging speeds, C to C is the only way.
I purchased and tried their USB C wall charger with C to C cable. I wasn't disappointed. They are well built and work fine ... at almost the same fast speed as the OEM Charger.
Subiegsr said:
Might just go with the one on the Google website now, since it's only a few dollars more and it'll probably ship faster. Amazon says it'll arrive after Christmas now.
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I'm not a fan of the Google charger because it's hard wired. Wires tends to go bad before the block so its a cheaper fix than buying a whole new charger.
plokm said:
I'm not a fan of the Google charger because it's hard wired. Wires tends to go bad before the block so its a cheaper fix than buying a whole new charger.
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Ah didn't think about that. Good call!
plokm said:
I'm not a fan of the Google charger because it's hard wired. Wires tends to go bad before the block so its a cheaper fix than buying a whole new charger.
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Odd.. do you mean the model you've got has the cable connected to the charger (i.e not removable)? The international edition (H1512) I got in Hong Kong while travelling is detachable and is type C on either end. I didnt' realize there were variations with the included accessories.
plokm said:
I'm not a fan of the Google charger because it's hard wired. Wires tends to go bad before the block so its a cheaper fix than buying a whole new charger.
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Agreed, wires do likely wear faster. But should you expect either to go bad in less than a couple of years if handled reasonably?
st8chic said:
Well, I'm pretty sure that simply put, A to C reaches only 2.4A at maximum, no matter what wall charger you use. If you want full 3A fast charging speeds, C to C is the only way.
I purchased and tried their USB C wall charger with C to C cable. I wasn't disappointed. They are well built and work fine ... at almost the same fast speed as the OEM Charger.
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Using a physical power meter I've verified that the Nexus 6P will only charge at 1.5A at 5V with standard 2A/2.4A chargers (I've tried 3-4 different USB A chargers). These are far more accurate than ampere as ampere measures net current, current in minus consumed current, not just the incoming current from the charger.
I'm not aware of a physical device that measures power through a type C cable other than the twinkie device that benson mentions and is several hundred dollars.
jpbl1976 said:
Odd.. do you mean the model you've got has the cable connected to the charger (i.e not removable)? The international edition (H1512) I got in Hong Kong while travelling is detachable and is type C on either end. I didnt' realize there were variations with the included accessories.
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I think he/she is referring to the extra one you buy from the accessories on the Google 6p site. The one included is a removable USB C-C cord.
NCguy said:
Agreed, wires do likely wear faster. But should you expect either to go bad in less than a couple of years if handled reasonably?
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Yes.....sooner or later you will probably have to replace both. I had good luck with all of my samsung charging blocks never had to replace any of them
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I think he/she is referring to the extra one you buy from the accessories on the Google 6p site. The one included is a removable USB C-C cord.
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Correct subiegsr I was talking about the Google store ones
ylexot said:
What are you talking about? There's only one version. I was the first one on this forum to get it (as far as I know) and it works just like the Google charger.
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If you read the Amazon comments so people where saying they received a different model than the one I've reviewed. As for fast charging with the Choetech after day 3 I still have no issues. It charges my phone from 1% to 100% in around 90 minutes.

Tronsmart 33W Dual USB (USB-A & USB-C) Wall Charger Overview

Quick and dirty test of the Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Wall Charger. Amazon Link
Nice and sturdy. No complaints on the build and aesthetics here. Smaller than I thought it'd be (based off of the images on Amazon) - good thing.
Tested with a 6.6 ft. Cable Matters® USB 2.0 Type-C to Type-C cable.
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Looks like we have another 3rd party wall charger option?
This is exactly what I've been waiting for, along with the matching car charger. Thanks for the heads up.
Works really great. Charges as fast as my Huawei Type C charger. Highly recommended!
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Complete opposite impression of OP as I do not recommend this charger. Charges my nexus 7 at 300 mA via the A port and charges my 6P via the C port at 2200 mA. USB C cables fall right out of the port with no force required and the components inside the charger wiggle around when you move the charger. Also quite a bit heavier and larger than the stock Huawei charger.
Tronsmart offered to send me a replacement but I have a feeling I will be getting a refund.
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Complete opposite impression of OP as I do not recommend this charger. Charges my nexus 7 at 300 mA via the A port and charges my 6P via the C port at 2200 mA. USB C cables fall right out of the port with no force required and the components inside the charger wiggle around when you move the charger. Also quite a bit heavier and larger than the stock Huawei charger.
Tronsmart offered to send me a replacement but I have a feeling I will be getting a refund.
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It seems like you receievd a defective unit clearly. I've had the charger for a while now, and other than having it break while traveling (my fault) it worked perfectly. The charger still works, but it has a crack in it thanks to rough handling in my bag while traveling (and putting it in a non-padded pocket). The ports at all snug and it does charge up at 2.950A based on what I saw while testing it. I don't think your experience is typical, but it also doesn't make our any better to experience. I hope you get it worked out
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Works really great. Charges as fast as my Huawei Type C charger. Highly recommended!
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my Tronsmart Collection
1. Charger
2. USB OTG Cable
3. USB Type C to A (3.3ft)
4. USB Type C to C (3.3ft)
i'll post my AMPERE Reading later, my battery is at full
Looks like a great option! I wonder how this compares to the CHOETECH 39W USB C 3 port charger? I'm trying to decide between one of the two myself as I could use an extra wall charger.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-CHOETECH-3-Port-Adapter-Detect/dp/B019Z7RVK0
Hows the heat output on the Tronsmart while charger? I heard that was an issue with an early version of CHOETECH first usb c charger.
What is the size comparison to the charger that comes with the Nexus?
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It seems like you receievd a defective unit clearly. I've had the charger for a while now, and other than having it break while traveling (my fault) it worked perfectly. The charger still works, but it has a crack in it thanks to rough handling in my bag while traveling (and putting it in a non-padded pocket). The ports at all snug and it does charge up at 2.950A based on what I saw while testing it. I don't think your experience is typical, but it also doesn't make our any better to experience. I hope you get it worked out
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Interesting, thanks for the response.
How about your A port, charge any devices with that? Mine is super slow with my Nexus 7 and my buddies Galaxy S6.
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Looks like a great option! I wonder how this compares to the CHOETECH 39W USB C 3 port charger? I'm trying to decide between one of the two myself as I could use an extra wall charger.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-CHOETECH-3-Port-Adapter-Detect/dp/B019Z7RVK0
Hows the heat output on the Tronsmart while charger? I heard that was an issue with an early version of CHOETECH first usb c charger.
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Didnt see that one before. Not happy with my Tronsmart at the moment. If the replacement still has the same issues, I will be returning it and probably will give that CHOETECH a shot.
Also my Tronsmart gets quite warm to the touch (not unbearable though), can give you an exact temp once I find my infrared thermometer.
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What is the size comparison to the charger that comes with the Nexus?
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Its definitely bigger and quite a bit heavier than the stock 6P charger. I don't have my stock one with me otherwise I would take a comparison pic.
MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Interesting, thanks for the response.
How about your A port, charge any devices with that? Mine is super slow with my Nexus 7 and my buddies Galaxy S6.
Didnt see that one before. Not happy with my Tronsmart at the moment. If the replacement still has the same issues, I will be returning it and probably will give that CHOETECH a shot.
Also my Tronsmart gets quite warm to the touch (not unbearable though), can give you an exact temp once I find my infrared thermometer.
Its definitely bigger and quite a bit heavier than the stock 6P charger. I don't have my stock one with me otherwise I would take a comparison pic.
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Well the Type A port puts out the rated 5V/3A if your device can charge at that rate. Most phones will only charge at 5V/2A via a type A port, so that's why it chargers them slower.
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Well the Type A port puts out the rated 5V/3A if your device can charge at that rate. Most phones will only charge at 5V/2A via a type A port, so that's why it chargers them slower.
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I understand that, but my N7 on the A port only charges at a max 350 amps.
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I understand that, but my N7 on the A port only charges at a max 350 amps.
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350A is a HUGE amount of power, I think you mean 350mAh. How did you check the current rate for the N7? If you used Ampere or any app then it's not accurate so you need to use an inline multimeter. . Mine outputs ~5V/2A charging my S7E and it gives my 1.5A over the Type A port using my Nexus 6P. If yours doesn't output the correct current then it's likely defective.
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350A is a HUGE amount of power, I think you mean 350mAh. How did you check the current rate for the N7? If you used Ampere or any app then it's not accurate so you need to use an inline multimeter. . Mine outputs ~5V/2A charging my S7E and it gives my 1.5A over the Type A port using my Nexus 6P. If yours doesn't output the correct current then it's likely defective.
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Lol, yes I did mean mAh. I understand the apps aren't as accurate as an actual inline meter, but I thought they at least got you in the correct ballpark?
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Lol, yes I did mean mAh. I understand the apps aren't as accurate as an actual inline meter, but I thought they at least got you in the correct ballpark?
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Not necessarily, I've seen them be off as much as 1A before especially on my S7E, so I don't go by those. If it seems like it's defective then I would contact Tronsmart because they could probably give you a better answer.
It does seem like both these chargers are hit and miss. Likely resulting from poor QC. I picked up a tronsmart myself after deciding between the two. It should be arriving today. Unfortunately my 6P is due later in the week.
I've had my Tronsmart for a few weeks now, based on initial impressions from OP. I've had zero issues with it. Matter of fact, I replaced a multiport charger on my nightstand for this one, as all I normally charge now is my N6P and my LG Watch. Coupled with iOrange-E 2m braided cables, I have zero issues with charging the N6P. Now I keep my OEM charger at the office (just in case).
I have this charger for about 2 weeks and I haven' t got any issue yet.
Here's to hoping my replacement is better ?
One of the big android blogs just did a post on tronsmart praising them for their products. Felt sponsored though so I'm weary.
I almost have the whole set. Ony one missing is the car charger. This s a nice set! No issues whatsoever.

Xiaomi's latest 10000mAh power bank offers USB Type-C for $22

http://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomis-latest-10000mah-power-bank-offers-usb-type-c-22
And the big Q... will it rapid-charge the Nexus-6P.... anyone?
I´m not sure if this Power Bank can charge the Nexus 6P fast ( 5V @ 3A ). I´ve tested a iVoler 10000mAh USB Type C Power Bank before and this one works great with the Nexus 6P.
The Xiaomi is much much smaller...
Quick Specs:
Input Voltage : 12V/9V/5V
Output Voltage : 12V/9V/5V
Input Current : 12V 1.5A/9V 2A/5V 2A(TYP)
Output Current : 10180mAh/39.19Wh(TYP)
Rated capacity : 3.6V/10000mAh(TYP)
Size : 128.5*75*12.6mm
Load detection : Auto-detect the plug-in and plug-out of devices
Weight : 223g
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seems like it could only charge at 2A for 5V
Ramelush said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomis-latest-10000mah-power-bank-offers-usb-type-c-22
And the big Q... will it rapid-charge the Nexus-6P.... anyone?
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No. I just received it today, and the usb-c interface is for charging the battery only. The legacy USB interface is said to support fast charging, but it didn't when I connected it to my Nexus 6P; it charged the phone at normal speeds.
I suspect the advertising around "bi directional usb-c" means simply you can plug the cable in both ways, and "fast charging" means you can charge the *battery* quicker.
In fact, if you connect the battery and a Nexus 6P via a usb-c cable, the phone starts charging the battery!
trammel said:
In fact, if you connect the battery and a Nexus 6P via a usb-c cable, the phone starts charging the battery!
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This is true on many (all?) batteries that allow you to both charge or discharge on the Type-C port. You might have to push the power button for the phone to start charging. What happens if you unplug the Type-C cable, push the power button on the battery, and then plug the Type-C cable back in? Does the phone start drawing power from the battery instead of charging the external battery?
IF the phone starts charging itself from the external battery, can you please let us know how much power is being delivered per the Ampere app? I'd be curious to know this. I couldn't find anything on Xiaomi's web site that gave a definitive output current number.
Pbrah said:
This is true on many (all?) batteries that allow you to both charge or discharge on the Type-C port. You might have to push the power button for the phone to start charging. What happens if you unplug the Type-C cable, push the power button on the battery, and then plug the Type-C cable back in? Does the phone start drawing power from the battery instead of charging the external battery?
IF the phone starts charging itself from the external battery, can you please let us know how much power is being delivered per the Ampere app? I'd be curious to know this. I couldn't find anything on Xiaomi's web site that gave a definitive output current number.
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Nope, pressing the button on the battery makes no difference (before or after being plugged in to the phone). The USB-C port is purely for charging the battery, not for using the battery to charge other devices.
I've attached a scan of the booklet that came with the battery. You'll need to read Chinese (I can't) to understand it though. 2 colleagues have told me it explicitly says only the legacy USB port can be used to charge other devices.
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Nope, pressing the button on the battery makes no difference (before or after being plugged in to the phone). The USB-C port is purely for charging the battery, not for using the battery to charge other devices.
I've attached a scan of the booklet that came with the battery. You'll need to read Chinese (I can't) to understand it though. 2 colleagues have told me it explicitly says only the legacy USB port can be used to charge other devices.
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That stinks. Thanks a lot for the heads up, I was considering buying one to compare to the Orico battery.
the part that says USB接口(输出) means USB port(output)
the Type C接口(输入) means Type C port(input)
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No. I just received it today, and the usb-c interface is for charging the battery only. The legacy USB interface is said to support fast charging, but it didn't when I connected it to my Nexus 6P; it charged the phone at normal speeds.
I suspect the advertising around "bi directional usb-c" means simply you can plug the cable in both ways, and "fast charging" means you can charge the *battery* quicker.
In fact, if you connect the battery and a Nexus 6P via a usb-c cable, the phone starts charging the battery!
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Boo!
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Argh... I wish I read this thread before I purchased this. I can confirm that the USB C does not output a charge. Really disappointed as all the reviews I've read led me to believe the USB C port was both an input and output. I've attached a screenshot of what I'm getting per Ampere. Oh, and I know this is in the Nexus 6P thread, but I'm actually using this with my Nexus 5X.
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I cant find the Xaiomi on any website
I fell for the same ****. I got mine today for $60 AUD, the only reason i paid that is there is no power banks in Australia that support USB-C. The USB-C port is only for charging the power bank, you can also charge the power bank using your phone. Xiaomi mi 10000mah doesn't rapid charge.
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I'd assume so, Chinese only instructions. I'm on a tab at the moment, can't view the pic.
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Hi guys, sorry for the UP but I bought the power bank today and I run into your same issues.
I saw a video (in bangladeshian, LOL) that actually from Type C port you can fast-charge the Nexus 6P, and also if the phone is off, it starts to get fast-charged by the battery via USB-C.
So basically, is there a question to disable "Nexus power output"? This way the USB quick charging should work fine.
kattara said:
Argh... I wish I read this thread before I purchased this. I can confirm that the USB C does not output a charge. Really disappointed as all the reviews I've read led me to believe the USB C port was both an input and output. I've attached a screenshot of what I'm getting per Ampere. Oh, and I know this is in the Nexus 6P thread, but I'm actually using this with my Nexus 5X.
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Damn , maybe because it's usb a to C , so the Ampere really low
This powerbank looks quite nice but it doesn't support USB Type-C Fast Charging. It only supports 2.0A output so it won't charge the Nexus 6P or 5X at full speed . Looks like I'm gonna be looking elsewhere.
The usb-c port is for charging the power bank only. It does not rapid charge.
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According to people in this reddit post it quickly charges the Nexus 6P if you use a different cable than the one it ships with. Only from the USB-A port though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/49xj4c/just_got_my_hands_on_the_xiaomi_10000mah_mi_power/
I bought one as well.
It does NOT charge via the USB C port, it is only an input port.
So no quick charging with it unfortunately.

[Review] Tronsmart Presto 12000mAh USB-C Fast Charging & QC3.0 Powerbank

Disclaimer: I was sent these items in exchange for an unbiased review.
Tronsmart Presto 12000mAh Powerbank
Unboxing and First look
Overview
I have been searching for a nice powerbank to charge my Nexus 6P since I bought it back in September of last year. Tronsmart finally made what everyone (in my opinion) has been looking for in a battery pack; this battery offers both QC 3.0 and Type-C fast charging due to the way it’s designed. I’ve tried a few different battery/power banks before this one for the Nexus, yet all of them that offer a Type-C port break the USB specification.
Tronsmart claims this powerbank is one of the most efficient on the market giving you the ability to maximize the power it stores to charge your phone. I haven’t tested that claim yet, but I fully intend to do so and publish my results below. I also own a 12000mAh Aukey powerbank, and a 10400mAh Choetech one as well. I do have other batteries, but their capacities aren’t similar enough to compare here.
What’s in the Box
-Tronsmart Presto 12000mAh Powerbank
-Documentation
-USB A-C charging cable with the proper 56k ohm resistor
Build & Design
In the typical Tronsmart style they have opted for a glossy plastic border alongside a matte plastic body. The plastic feels nice, and has a subtle texture on the matte section giving it a more refined feel. I appreciate how Tronsmart carried over their design language across multiple products (chargers, powerbanks etc.) which gives the end user a familiar feel to their products.
On the front of the powerbank you will find two ports; the first is your standard USB-A that offers QC 3.0, while the second only charges via USB-C fast charging. I like how they separated the circuits to offer both standards in one nicely designed battery especially for people like myself that own a Quick-Charge enabled phone (QC 1.0/2.0/3.0).
Along the side you will find a power button that turns on the battery for when you want to charge your phone(s).
Charging breakdown by port
Input (Type-C): DC:5V/3A
Output (Type-C Port): DC 5V 3.0A Max
Output (QC3.0): DC 5V-6.5V/3A 6.5V-9V/2A 9V-12V/1.5A
Summary
This has quickly become my new go to powerbank given the wide range of charging options it offers for both of my phones.
I also really appreciated the compact design, solid construction, and consistent styling offered.
I will follow up this review with a battery test to see how efficient it is while charging my Nexus 6P over USB-C and my S7 Edge via the USB-A QC 3.0 port. I’ll also add a short review of the braided USB A-C cable I was sent tomorrow.
Comparison: Tronsmart Presto vs Choetech, and Aukey Powerbanks
Tronsmart Braided USB A-C Cable
I own a ton (literally/physically) of USB A-C, C-C and MicroUSB cables given the number of phones I have. I first wanted to say how I’m impressed with the quality of this particular cable because it’s built well. I also own the I-Orange USB A-C, and C-C cables, but those are more expensive even though they are also high quality. The Tronsmart one features a nice braided nylon sleeve giving it more durability in the long run couple with nice aluminum housings for each end. The cable offers data transfer at USB 2.0 speeds (480mbs) which is perfect for the Nexus 5X/6P, or any device that doesn’t support USB 3.1 over Type-C. I have no complaints about the cable, and given how it meets the USB spec with the proper 56k ohm-m resistor you shouldn’t run into any issues.
Looks great! The main thing I'd like to know is how fast the 6P charges through the usb-c port in comparison to my oem usb-c cable & brick. So far I haven't seen a power bank that actually charges quickly through the usb-c port and this looks promising!
Is this available to buy yet:?
Sounds great... What's the dimensions and weight? Nm, here it is:
Product Dimensions 7.5 x 3.5 x 1.2 inches
Item Weight 10.7 ounces
you guys sure don't like to use google.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GVBFBBO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ALTVS0Q5KJ7M3
I just ordered mine, will be arriving tomorrow.
I'm going to post some more updates to the OP this afternoon. It is available for purchase on Amazon, and other places from what I've seen, but XDA doesn't like when you post product links in the OP.
Disappointing that this is bigger than Anker's while having only 60% of the capacity.
Here's something i don't understand. Back in November, when you reviewed the 20100mah ravpower, you said
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Any USB A-C cables are limited to 1.5A by design so it won't rapid charge with a Type A that is inspec.
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Clearly shows QC3 charging due to the higher current, nearing 3A there. So this included-in-the-box a-c can handle more than 1.5A. Why ?
Does not indicate that 3A is reaching the 6P.
can you post a photo which indicates that close to 3A does reach the 6P.
with earlier banks there was always this doubt whether they were putting out close to 3A or 2.4A.
Went digging around for better photos that showed the specs clear and found one.
Note that it allows to charge devices ie. output using QC3 going up to 12V but will only accept 5v3A on the input. Why ?
No phone is going to require 12V on the input but a charger will certainly benefit from 12V QC3 as you can push over 20W with a suitable charger to charge it instead of 14W. Net result is your wait time to full charge of the power bank reduces by 50%.
Will this show Charging Rapidly when I plug my phone in this? Also, can I use the wall charger and C-C cable my phone came with for charging this power bank? Thanks!
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Will this show Charging Rapidly when I plug my phone in this? Also, can I use the wall charger and C-C cable my phone came with for charging this power bank? Thanks!
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I've just got mine from Amazon and can confirm that it displays CHARGING RAPIDLY. This is only displayed by using the C to C cable which is the one that came with the phone. Hope that answers your question.
I just posted a similar review of the product over on the G5 forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/accessories/tronsmart-presto-12000mah-qc3-0-usb-c-t3415369
This is more from the QC3.0 side of things as I do not have a Nexus, so it may not be as relevant to those on this thread.
One difference I believe I'm seeing between our reviews is that in charging my battery pack, it never went above 2.4/5V. It was measured using basically the same technique (USB-A multimeter plugged into a QC3 adapter, connected into a USB-A to USB-C cable, into the USB-C port of the battery). Maybe I'll try a different QC3 AC adapter.
I picked up this powerbank a couple days ago and ran a simple test to compare the charging speeds between the tronsmart powerbank and my wall charger. Both times, I ran the phone's battery down until it powered itself off before starting the test. Here are the results
Through Wall Charger (with 3rd party USB-C to C cable)
@ 15 min - 22%
@ 30 min - 42%
@ 1 hr - 80%
@ 1 hr 15 min - 91%
@ 1 hr 35 min - 100%
Through Tronsmart Powerbank (with 3rd party USB-C to C cable)
@ 15 min - 17%
@ 30 min - 38%
@ 1 hr - 76%
@ 1 hr 15 min - 90%
@ 1 hr 40 min - 100%
So far, pretty happy with the charging speed.
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Here's something i don't understand. Back in November, when you reviewed the 20100mah ravpower, you said
But here we see
Clearly shows QC3 charging due to the higher current, nearing 3A there. So this included-in-the-box a-c can handle more than 1.5A. Why ?
Does not indicate that 3A is reaching the 6P.
can you post a photo which indicates that close to 3A does reach the 6P.
with earlier banks there was always this doubt whether they were putting out close to 3A or 2.4A.
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The USB-C port is only rated for 5V/3A, while the USB-A port is a QC 3.0 port. This is why it will quick charge my S7 Edge over the USB-A port since its using micro USB. I can post more about it when I get home from work tonight.
Didn't get a chance to post what I wanted last night because I got home late from work. I will try to do it today assuming all goes well. For those of you that are curious I managed 2.1 charges using C-C fast charging out of the battery pack resulting in a ~61% battery pack efficiency
just got this and i was not able to get charging rapidly msg on my nexus 6p when using supplied cable or my own a-c cable i purchased from google.
able to get quickcharging with a-c cable on my gf samsung galaxy s6
have not tried the c-c port charging on nexus 6p. will report back with results.
The USB-A port is a Qualcomm Quick Charge port, not a USB-PD port, so you won't get quick charging on the 6P from it.
You need the C-C cable to get quick charging on the Nexus.
Just ordered mine based on this review
I went back and used a different QC3.0 AC charger to charge this battery. This time, it was a nice Tronsmart branded one. The numbers were far better, ~15Ws, about 2.5-2.6A and 5.7V. So the charger you use to juice up the Presto will make a difference in charging times. This confirms the numbers @Pilz was getting.
I am looking for a fast battery charger for Nexus 6p, reading through this thread am I right in assuming then the only way to get a charge above 1.5ish amps is to use a USB C to C connection for the Nexus 6p when charging.

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