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Hey,
I'm recently got an infuse off contract, rooted it, etc, but I haven't been able to make myself transfer my service too it from my other phone. I'm really torn, as it is a great phone but ehhh.
Anyway.
I'm just wondering if there is some way I can use this phone on a pre paid network or something. I looked it up and saw straight talk was perhaps an option, but it seems very confusing.
Thanks.
well you could use simple mobile. (they have ads on this site alot) you could the infuse unlocking guide to unlock your phone and use it on this service. they use t mobiles towers and have 4g (hspa+) in certain areas. their plans are 40 unlimited talk and text, 50 unlimited talk text and 2g data, and 60 unlimited talk text 3g/4g data. you should check them out.hope all goes well my friend.
thank you very much! are there any cheaper options? do you know anything about straight talk?
can i use it on att month to month?
Well simple mobile is one of the cheapest prepaid gsm carriers around. And I know of straight talk. But the only straight talk smart phone is the nokia e71 I believe and that's the only straight talk phone that uses a sim card. So you would have to buy a 200+ phone JUST to get the straight talk sim card out. And yes you can use simple mobile from month to month but after 30 days of no payment they will take your number and deactivate your sim. And another good cheap prepaid option is walmarts family plan. The only thing is to start to see savings you would have to have multiple lines that's why it's good for families. Finally you could check out h20 wireless solutions they have similar rates to simple mobile but they use att towers.... Whew....that was allot of typing....lol
Itaer said:
thank you very much! are there any cheaper options? do you know anything about straight talk?
can i use it on att month to month?
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Based on conversations on IRC with a ST user:
If your SIM was taken from one of th $200 Nokias, you can use in the Infuse. ST is a Tracfone reseller, which uses AT&T's network.
SIMs from all other ST phones are specifically locked to the phone.
ALSO: If you use a SIM from one of the $200 Nokias, you MUST keep the Nokia. If that phone is ever activated with another service, ST will drop service on your SIM.
Edit: Note, I'm an AT&T contract user, all of the above are hearsay from IRC a month or two ago.
i believe you need a $200 nokia smartphone on strait talk but never sell the nokia! the sim is locked to the imei somehow and if the nokia is activated again the old sim is deactivated. also i think strait talk is a reseller of many carriers, they have cdma phones and a few of the nokia smart phones are on t-mobile sim cards from what i understand. you can try it but i think ifg the sim has a "t" on it then you cant use it, only problem is you have know way to know which sim will be in the phone you are buying.
many of those prepay services have one of a number of methods to lock the phone to their network. do as much research as posible before dropping cash on a device that might be useless
I though Att itself has a pay as you go with no contracty plain also tat works for this for for $5 data (10 mb ha) and $.010 a min talk.
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i believe you need a $200 nokia smartphone on strait talk but never sell the nokia! the sim is locked to the imei somehow and if the nokia is activated again the old sim is deactivated. also i think strait talk is a reseller of many carriers, they have cdma phones and a few of the nokia smart phones are on t-mobile sim cards from what i understand. you can try it but i think ifg the sim has a "t" on it then you cant use it, only problem is you have know way to know which sim will be in the phone you are buying.
many of those prepay services have one of a number of methods to lock the phone to their network. do as much research as posible before dropping cash on a device that might be useless
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So theoretically, you could buy the 200 phone, and buy the cheap ass phone......in separate transactions, from Wal-mart and then use the expensive sim card, but put the cheap sim card in the expensive phone pkg and return the phone......only if you are evil!
I understand you could use the GoPhone plans, but you will need a new sim card, and also have to have a data plan to go with it, not sure how much the Simple Mobile plans are they talk about, but your looking at around 55-60$ for GoPhone plans with minimum data. 50$ unlimited talk and text and 5$for 10mb. Tops is 25$for 500mb, thats still not a lot of data though. I think 10mb for a phone is a joke, in my opinion. Maybe check out the Simple Mobile, you will have to unlock your phone for that though. Instructions for that are XDA.
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So theoretically, you could buy the 200 phone, and buy the cheap ass phone......in separate transactions, from Wal-mart and then use the expensive sim card, but put the cheap sim card in the expensive phone pkg and return the phone......only if you are evil!
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No. If the expensive phone is EVER activated with another SIM, the expensive SIM you're using will get deactivated according to everything I've heard.
Entropy512 said:
No. If the expensive phone is EVER activated with another SIM, the expensive SIM you're using will get deactivated according to everything I've heard.
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Yeah but if the phone is returned, after it has been opened, then its not returned to the shelf. I think it would be considered refurb. I dont know, but they would probably reassign the imei to another sim. Dont know. I think I will just keep my edge speed in the hope that when att buys t-mobile that I will finally gtr hspda.
Coming from an Inspire 4G, I have a regular size sim chip. I'm handy with an Xacto and sanding stick, so on friday when my One X comes, should I cut my sim to fit, or just take it into the store and get a micro sim? Or is there a difference between an LTE micro sim and a '4G' regular sim? Also, what exactly does AT&T charge an activation fee for?
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Coming from an Inspire 4G, I have a regular size sim chip. I'm handy with an Xacto and sanding stick, so on friday when my One X comes, should I cut my sim to fit, or just take it into the store and get a micro sim? Or is there a difference between an LTE micro sim and a '4G' regular sim? Also, what exactly does AT&T charge an activation fee for?
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There is a difference between a 4G sim and an LTE sim. If you want LTE, you need a new card. If you don't care, go ahead and trim yours to fit, if you think you can do it right. There is technically no need to make any changes to your plan in order to switch to a new phone, or even make the carrier aware that you're doing it on a GSM network.
Whether that violates AT&T policy, and what the consequences of that are, is a separate issue. That you may want to look into.
It should come with a new sim card. The activation fee is you paying for the privilege of AT&T allowing you to continue using their service with new equipment for the next 2 years. Call customer care when it hits your bill. You should be able to get it removed.
Your OneX will come with a new AT&T microSIM in the box (AT&T always does that). You simply call in and activate that SIM instead of messing with your old SIM. The reason you need to call in is to make sure they updated your data plan to LTE plan. Without this step, you won't get any data connection on LTE.
$36 fee is just that, a fee. It covers above mentioned task if you do call. Otherwise, it is just another way for AT&T to make a few buck$ off you.
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There is a difference between a 4G sim and an LTE sim. If you want LTE, you need a new card. If you don't care, go ahead and trim yours to fit, if you think you can do it right.
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I've heard that as long as your current at&t sim card has a "25" as the ninth and tenth digits printed on it, it's LTE capable. So, cutting it down and popping it in the One X should be fine if it has these digits. But yeah, you'll probably still need to call them so they can add your IMEI number to your account.
Although, you could always just go to your local store and get a new sim for free once you get your phone if you're like me and aren't ordering it through at&t!
I want to call and ask them to remove my activation fee, do I have to make some sob story about not being able to afford it or something? Or can I just ask them to take it off, and how should I approach that?
If you were out of contract, the TOS allows you to cancel within 30 days without an ETF. Be sure to mention that to them and then say you would consider such a thing if this activation fee which seems unnecessary is not waived.
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hokiesteve said:
I've heard that as long as your current at&t sim card has a "25" as the ninth and tenth digits printed on it, it's LTE capable. So, cutting it down and popping it in the One X should be fine if it has these digits. But yeah, you'll probably still need to call them so they can add your IMEI number to your account.
Although, you could always just go to your local store and get a new sim for free once you get your phone if you're like me and aren't ordering it through at&t!
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Yeah... my shipped email says it is coming with a new sim card, so at the least, I'll have a template for cutting it down. I'm 100+ miles from the nearest LTE market, so I might try that first.
What does AT&T need my IMEI number for? Just curious if that's just one piece of information that they want, but don't really need... but gives them one more hook into me.
When I decided on getting a Moto G (and N5) for my mom and I, I was planning on Solavei. BUT.. they decided to increase their prices, so I am looking at T Mobile now.
A few problems I am running into (with both phones)
1. Both phones are very new, so it is not an option to choose when signing up on their prepaid site. Do I just choose a different phone and throw the SIM in anyways? If so, which phone.. the Nexus 4?
2. There appears to be two options to sign up on T mobile with two lines. I would like to choose $70 and $30(after second line discount) plans for me and my mom, totaling $100 for the Moto G and N5. When I look to sign up this way, it wants to charge me for a SIM "starter kit". If I choose to use their prepaid site, (prepaid-phones.tmobile....), the SIM is free but there appears to be no family plan option, so there is no discount on the second line. Is there a way to get the best of both worlds? AKA, Can I get a free SIM and a discounted second line?
I realize this is not the N5 forum but information on both phones is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
boconnor341 said:
When I decided on getting a Moto G (and N5) for my mom and I, I was planning on Solavei. BUT.. they decided to increase their prices, so I am looking at T Mobile now.
A few problems I am running into (with both phones)
1. Both phones are very new, so it is not an option to choose when signing up on their prepaid site. Do I just choose a different phone and throw the SIM in anyways? If so, which phone.. the Nexus 4?
2. There appears to be two options to sign up on T mobile with two lines. I would like to choose $70 and $30(after second line discount) plans for me and my mom, totaling $100 for the Moto G and N5. When I look to sign up this way, it wants to charge me for a SIM "starter kit". If I choose to use their prepaid site, (prepaid-phones.tmobile....), the SIM is free but there appears to be no family plan option, so there is no discount on the second line. Is there a way to get the best of both worlds? AKA, Can I get a free SIM and a discounted second line?
I realize this is not the N5 forum but information on both phones is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Get the prepaid starter kits from the website. Then if you take the phones into the store you should be able to get the discount as long as it isn't online only.
Yes, you can set up over phone
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Get the prepaid starter kits from the website. Then if you take the phones into the store you should be able to get the discount as long as it isn't online only.
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Hi.. Like previously mentioned, order the sim kits from carrier on website, they waive activation fee if ordered online. When received, (make sure to order micro sim for Moto G) write down numbers from sim card and imei# separately, and call carier with info
They will correspond soon with imei #and assign phone number or port number, and reboot phone. They give it up to two hours but no need to leave home. I've done this with some Chinese phones that are not on their list and is been no problem. good luck... Paul
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Currently on S4 with unlimited data....is it worth losing unlimited to get the S6 right now?
was goign to do edge (have a few other phones on plan), but mine is still unlimited right now...
My monthly would be pretty much identical....but with shared 8 GB. Other phones barely use data...
Thanks in advance!!!
If you're in the US, just get an S6 at Best Buy and either get a BB credit card or use their payment plan to get it off contract. It's basically the same as getting the edge contract and you get to keep your unlimted data.
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If I use edge....they do give you a credit of 25 bucks every month.
Hmm.....If I'm bringing my own device....shouldn't they be reducing my monthly?
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Currently on S4 with unlimited data....is it worth losing unlimited to get the S6 right now?
was goign to do edge (have a few other phones on plan), but mine is still unlimited right now...
My monthly would be pretty much identical....but with shared 8 GB. Other phones barely use data...
Thanks in advance!!!
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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If I use edge....they do give you a credit of 25 bucks every month.
Hmm.....If I'm bringing my own device....shouldn't they be reducing my monthly?
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Yes. I continue to bring my own phone so I'm considered month to month. Therefore I get a $25 discount.
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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I think I've read through that entire thread like 5 times, so much good info in there.
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WOW!!!
Thank you!
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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Hi, SO by using the BB method, you kept the UDP, but you were extended out by 2 yrs?
On my family plan, I also have a basic line that is upgradeable. It seems that if I use one of those methods...I don't get stuck on 2 yr on the basic plan, but also, dont get stuck on 2 yr plan on my UDP. Do you know this to be true? I've read multiple.....can't seem to figure that part out...
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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Hi, SO by using the BB method, you kept the UDP, but you were extended out by 2 yrs?
On my family plan, I also have a basic line that is upgradeable. It seems that if I use one of those methods...I don't get stuck on 2 yr on the basic plan, but also, dont get stuck on 2 yr plan on my UDP. Do you know this to be true? I've read multiple.....can't seem to figure that part out...
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Yes. I paid subsidized pricing ($299 for 64 GB S6) and my contract end date was pushed out 2 years, while keeping my Nationwide 700 plan with unlimited data. Depending on what method you use, you will extend your contract out another two years. Being on contract with unlimited data is a GOOD thing. If you're off contract, they can drop your unlimited data anytime for any reason. If you're on contract, dropping your UDP would mean they broke the contract, and thus they would be forfeiting the early cancellation fees, which is a significant chunk of money for a subsidized S6. Read that first post all the way through a couple times, figure out which method works for your situation, and then read those instructions like 10 times. There are different optimal strategies to keep your UDP depending on what your plan looks like.
edit: Best Buy is also running a $100 gift card promotion for Verizon upgrades to S6, just got mine today. Subsidized pricing, $100 to spend at BB, and I still kept my UDP, simply amazing.
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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Remember the SIM you have in your S4 WILL NOT fit in the S6
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chrisj22 said:
Remember the SIM you have in your S4 WILL NOT fit in the S6
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It's trivial to print out a template, mark your cuts in permanent marker, and cut it down to size with a pair of good scissors. Some sandpaper for fine tuning (or careful work with sharp, sturdy scissors) was all I needed to make it fit perfectly. You can also purchase a SIM cutter tool from Amazon for <$10 if you don't trust yourself hacking up your SIM. Take note that you should not go to a Verizon corporate store and ask for a new SIM as they will notice the pending equipment activation on your account and most likely drop your UDP. People have had luck paying an authorized retailer for a new SIM, there should be examples in the earlier linked Slickdeals thread. Really though, it's quite simple to cut down the SIM with scissors so long as you take your time and don't overcut it. The actual chip is tiny, what you see on the outside are just contacts.
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It's trivial to print out a template, mark your cuts in permanent marker, and cut it down to size with a pair of good scissors. Some sandpaper for fine tuning (or careful work with sharp, sturdy scissors) was all I needed to make it fit perfectly. You can also purchase a SIM cutter tool from Amazon for <$10 if you don't trust yourself hacking up your SIM. Take note that you should not go to a Verizon corporate store and ask for a new SIM as they will notice the pending equipment activation on your account and most likely drop your UDP. People have had luck paying an authorized retailer for a new SIM, there should be examples in the earlier linked Slickdeals thread. Really though, it's quite simple to cut down the SIM with scissors so long as you take your time and don't overcut it. The actual chip is tiny, what you see on the outside are just contacts.
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Or being I believe he was getting the phone online from the carrier it will come with a SIM Preloaded in the phone
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Or being I believe he was getting the phone online from the carrier it will come with a SIM Preloaded in the phone
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You're not reading the thread at all. If you turn on the phone with the SIM from Best Buy in it, you will instantly lose UDP and not be able to get it back. You MUST destroy the new SIM before you initially power on the phone (even initial charging) when doing this method of getting a subsidized upgrade without losing your unlimited data. If the phone comes on at all, Verizon reads the new SIM as being activated, and your unlimited data is gone forever . It is crucial to take out and destroy the new SIM ASAP.
Does this work with upgrading from a S3? Meaning, will the SIM from a S3 work after trimming?
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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I believe you can, but it would be easier to walk into a Verizon corporate store and get it there for free on the spot. Did it a couple weeks ago no issue coming from an s5.
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Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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Sure, but why not do the BB method and get it at subsidized pricing? You also get the benefit of being on contract, which means if they kill your UDP (which they are free to do at any time), they will have to let you out of the early termination fee. You could also walk into a VZW corporate store and buy an S6 at full price to keep your unlimited, but be aware that VZW has the right to kill your UDP at any time should they feel the need to do so.
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Does this work with upgrading from a S3? Meaning, will the SIM from a S3 work after trimming?
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To be able to cut down your SIM for the S6, you must currently have a 4G LTE SIM. I personally never owned an S3 so I am not sure if you have a 4G LTE SIM in it or not. If you do, simply do the BB method and trim your SIM. If not, there are methods to get around this, check the thread I linked earlier.
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Yes. I paid subsidized pricing ($299 for 64 GB S6) and my contract end date was pushed out 2 years, while keeping my Nationwide 700 plan with unlimited data. Depending on what method you use, you will extend your contract out another two years. Being on contract with unlimited data is a GOOD thing. If you're off contract, they can drop your unlimited data anytime for any reason. If you're on contract, dropping your UDP would mean they broke the contract, and thus they would be forfeiting the early cancellation fees, which is a significant chunk of money for a subsidized S6. Read that first post all the way through a couple times, figure out which method works for your situation, and then read those instructions like 10 times. There are different optimal strategies to keep your UDP depending on what your plan looks like.
edit: Best Buy is also running a $100 gift card promotion for Verizon upgrades to S6, just got mine today. Subsidized pricing, $100 to spend at BB, and I still kept my UDP, simply amazing.
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What you said above is actually not true, unless BB gives you a different print out and does things differently. As for the way Verizon does things, The contract terms you are signing up for do not include unlimited data. If you read the terms you are signing up for, no where on there does it say you are signing a 2 year deal with unlimited data. At any point in time, whether you are on or off contract, Verizon could swap it over as there have not been 2 year contracts for unlimited data in quite some time. They have chosen not to based on the outrage that came previously when they tried to make some changes to the unlimited plans. (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data)
I have seen a few people who swapped their upgrade to another line, used in on that line and then just switched the phone back to theirs. While this did keep their UDP, nowhere in the 2 year contract agreement was it mentioned that they were getting UDP. In fact it was quite the contrary. It would show the 2GB data plan for 30$ which would be activated on line B while line A was just getting the contract extension.
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Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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When you buy the phone full retail and go to put it on your line using my Verizon, one step in the process will say your sim is not compatible/or it'll ask you if you want to order a new sim card. Simply click I want a new sim card and within 2 days a new nano sim card will be at your door.
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What you said above is actually not true, unless BB gives you a different print out and does things differently. As for the way Verizon does things, The contract terms you are signing up for do not include unlimited data. If you read the terms you are signing up for, no where on there does it say you are signing a 2 year deal with unlimited data. At any point in time, whether you are on or off contract, Verizon could swap it over as there have not been 2 year contracts for unlimited data in quite some time. They have chosen not to based on the outrage that came previously when they tried to make some changes to the unlimited plans. (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data)
I have seen a few people who swapped their upgrade to another line, used in on that line and then just switched the phone back to theirs. While this did keep their UDP, nowhere in the 2 year contract agreement was it mentioned that they were getting UDP. In fact it was quite the contrary. It would show the 2GB data plan for 30$ which would be activated on line B while line A was just getting the contract extension.
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My contract end date is 06/16/2017 and I still have my UDP. Read the thread I linked earlier before you tell me that what I said isn't true. People have been doing alternate upgrades (4ever) and the BB method for quite some time now, and you get to be on-contract and keep your UDP. Doing the BB method doesn't require you to have two lines on the same account either, so the scenario you describe in your second paragraph doesn't apply to this method of getting a subsidized upgrade on-contract while keeping UDP.
Furthermore you don't need to get a new SIM card so long as you already have a 4G LTE SIM. I took the SIM out of my S4, cut it down to nanoSIM size, and put it directly into my new S6 without any incompatible messages or a need to get a new one from VZW. If you already have a 4G LTE SIM you don't need to get a new one. If you do the BB method and order a new SIM kiss goodbye to your UDP. You must reuse your old SIM in order to keep UDP.
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My contract end date is 06/16/2017 and I still have my UDP. Read the thread I linked earlier before you tell me that what I said isn't true. People have been doing alternate upgrades (4ever) and the BB method for quite some time now, and you get to be on-contract and keep your UDP. Doing the BB method doesn't require you to have two lines on the same account either, so the scenario you describe in your second paragraph doesn't apply to this method of getting a subsidized upgrade on-contract while keeping UDP.
Furthermore you don't need to get a new SIM card so long as you already have a 4G LTE SIM. I took the SIM out of my S4, cut it down to nanoSIM size, and put it directly into my new S6 without any incompatible messages or a need to get a new one from VZW. If you already have a 4G LTE SIM you don't need to get a new one. If you do the BB method and order a new SIM kiss goodbye to your UDP. You must reuse your old SIM in order to keep UDP.
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I think I was not clear and I am sorry about that. Your contract end date and what is actually guaranteed by that contract are 2 different things. Look at the actual contract terms. Yes, you can be in a contract with UDP in today's world on verizon, that happens with the example I gave above. The contract you are signing is an extension of service. If done the way in my example, the line its activated on (The line you transferred your upgrade to, line B) will get a data extension contract while the line that transferred the upgrade (line A) will get a service use extension (yes there are now 2 types of contracts). This was changed last September I believe so that if someone tried to transfer their upgrade to a non smartphone line, use the upgrade, then transfer the phone back over to their line, the data plan would stick to the line it was activated on when in the past it would just drop off.
You are correct, you did extend your contract, but that UDP feature is listed nowhere on the actual documents you signed thus changing/removing or doing whatever Verizon wants to do is in no way a violation of your extended service. they are still providing you the service you signed up for. I am not sure when the last time you could actually sign up for unlimited data was using their plan system, but that was definitely more than 3 years ago. I am unsure how these upgrades are processed via best buy and what their contract term sheets look like when printed out, so I can't comment on that process. I have seen Verizon's and seen people who extended their contract and nowhere on that printout is unlimited data listed as being guaranteed for the contract, but it did list the 2GB plan or w/e plan was picked on it. The reason Verizon is not touching this for now is because of the bad press they got previously when trying to modify the unlimited accounts and add throttling. I am sure within the next couple of years though, all unlimited plans will be forced out. It will suck to lose it and its at that time maybe i'll give t-mobile a try.
Also, requesting the sim in the method I put above will in no way effect his UDP. It sends you a nano sim card so you do not have to cut with the current features that are on your account. Yes if you cut your sim card you won't get any incompatible messages because you are not trying to activate the phone through the my Verizon feature. That will only come up when going through and trying activate/change the phone on your account using their website.
Does anyone have any more details on how the e-sim will be implemented.
If it means I have to take out another contract them I'm not interested.
However, if it can be linked to my existing contract without incurring any additional fee then I will be interested.
Once the e-sim has connected to the network perhaps it de-activates the phone sim? Presumably, they can both be active?
tmn0004676 said:
Does anyone have any more details on how the e-sim will be implemented.
If it means I have to take out another contract them I'm not interested.
However, if it can be linked to my existing contract without incurring any additional fee then I will be interested.
Once the e-sim has connected to the network perhaps it de-activates the phone sim? Presumably, they can both be active?
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With the gear s you had to add another line to your account. For Verizon it was $5 a month. You get a new phone number for the watch. The watch cost $399 off contract and $349 on contract. None of this has anything to do with the e sim. My understanding is its a smaller sim card with no ability to remove. Which is the reason why it is waterproof. I would prefer the waterproof over being able to remove it but that's just me. Some disagree.
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tmn0004676 said:
Does anyone have any more details on how the e-sim will be implemented.
If it means I have to take out another contract them I'm not interested.
However, if it can be linked to my existing contract without incurring any additional fee then I will be interested.
Once the e-sim has connected to the network perhaps it de-activates the phone sim? Presumably, they can both be active?
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Just Google "e-sim", that's what I did . That will quickly answer your main questions, nothing really specific to Gear S2.
With Tmobile, another wearable line is just $5, so it is a nobrainer to either keep /get another Gear S line or disolve it!
tmn0004676 said:
Does anyone have any more details on how the e-sim will be implemented.
If it means I have to take out another contract them I'm not interested.
However, if it can be linked to my existing contract without incurring any additional fee then I will be interested.
Once the e-sim has connected to the network perhaps it de-activates the phone sim? Presumably, they can both be active?
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So you want 3g (cell service) watch but not to pay any monthly service charges to your phone care provider......... LOL
The way it works is its an add on to your contract for another device. Same as the galaxy gear s.
It's up to your carrier to provide the extra cost for another sim or device. Usually its 5-10 a month but again that depends on your carrier.
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So you want 3g (cell service) watch but not to pay any monthly service charges to your phone care provider......... LOL
The way it works is its an add on to your contract for another device. Same as the galaxy gear s.
It's up to your carrier to provide the extra cost for another sim or device. Usually its 5-10 a month but again that depends on your carrier.
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Nothing to "LOL" here. I have a phone and a phone number. I buy a 3G enabled smartwatch. I need the flexibility to step out of my house with just the smartwatch and expect to receive my phone calls on the watch. If manufacturers/operators are trying to sell a smartwatch, which is a secondary device to complement your phone, and expect me to buy a new contract with a new number, no matter what the price is; and you are gullible enough to fall for that - then yeah, LOL!
Update - Well looks like AT&T saved you from getting ripped off - www(dot)wareable(dot)com/smartwatches/att-announces-numbersync-for-gear-s2-watch-urbane-2-1894
That was common sense; how easy it is to LOL!
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Nothing to "LOL" here. I have a phone and a phone number. I buy a 3G enabled smartwatch. I need the flexibility to step out of my house with just the smartwatch and expect to receive my phone calls on the watch. If manufacturers/operators are trying to sell a smartwatch, which is a secondary device to complement your phone, and expect me to buy a new contract with a new number, no matter what the price is; and you are gullible enough to fall for that - then yeah, LOL!
Update - Well looks like AT&T saved you from getting ripped off - www(dot)wareable(dot)com/smartwatches/att-announces-numbersync-for-gear-s2-watch-urbane-2-1894
That was common sense; how easy it is to LOL!
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You still need a contract to get NumberSync to work. Note that the article you linked mentions "connected" devices.
Numbersync still means each device has its own number, but the 'server' side connects the two like call/text fowarding.
A device on a network uses resources, why shouldn't a company reclaim the cost of those resources?
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You still need a contract to get NumberSync to work. Note that the article you linked mentions "connected" devices.
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Numbersync still means each device has its own number, but the 'server' side connects the two like call/text fowarding.
A device on a network uses resources, why shouldn't a company reclaim the cost of those resources?
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That cost should already be built into the monthly plan. If I am paying $60 per month for unlimited talk and text and say 5GB data, I shouldn't have to pay again for another device. But that is how it is in USA with their "device access charge". It's ridiculous for some parts of the world.
In India for example your number/plan is tied only to the SIM card and you are free to switch between devices. My idea of using a smartwatch like LG Urbane 2 is to connect it with my phone using Bluetooth when I am carrying both devices with me; and when I want to leave my phone home, then move the SIM card from my phone to the smartwatch and step out. But that I cannot do in USA unfortunately without adding another line.
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That cost should already be built into the monthly plan. If I am paying $60 per month for unlimited talk and text and say 5GB data, I shouldn't have to pay again for another device. But that is how it is in USA with their "device access charge". It's ridiculous for some parts of the world.
In India for example your number/plan is tied only to the SIM card and you are free to switch between devices. My idea of using a smartwatch like LG Urbane 2 is to connect it with my phone using Bluetooth when I am carrying both devices with me; and when I want to leave my phone home, then move the SIM card from my phone to the smartwatch and step out. But that I cannot do in USA unfortunately without adding another line.
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Adding a line is not the same as having one line.
One line:
One SIM card, has the ability to only make calls, text, and data from one device at a time. One SIM means one number.
Add a line:
Two SIMS (the watches is embedded). Each can act individually, has two numbers (watch number is hidden and using some back end software AT&T links the phones number with the watch's).
If you want to use one SIM you have to find a watch that you can change out the SIM. The original gear S could. If you really wanted you could swap the Sim out when you left your phone at home, but you wouldn't get notifications from things like what's appwhatsapp since the watch didn't have the app.
Verizon charges $5 for a watch to connect to your plan, that's reasonable to me. $10- $15 is a bit high but not something I would say is ridiculous. If you don't want to pay the price then the service isn't worth it to you and a Bluetooth device might be better.
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I'm interested in an answer to the same question but for a different reason. I want to send a Gear S2 3G to my 10 years old brother back in Jordan. Cell service providers over there never heard of e-sims. The only sell sim cards. My brother does not want to carry a phone in addition to the watch fearing losing it.
Is there a way where my parents can buy a regular sim then program its info into the e-sim of the Gear S2. Please let me know if someone managed to do that.