Mi4i, moto x play, Redmi 2 or wait ? - Xiaomi Mi 4i

hi guys , moto g (1st gen) user here. im using moto g for last 1.5 years, so far im very happy with it. it performs very well and smooth. but there's a problem with screen , there are so many vertical lines, seems a hardware issue. anyway now im looking for a new phone.
my choices are , Redmi 2, mi4i, and moto x play( max budget is 18k. redmi 2 seems to be just a minor camera improvement over moto g. and mi4i is having heat issues, and moto x play is just too big for my liking. also it seems xiaomi is very slow when it comes to android updates (miui updates doesn't count ). not only that, there are also no sources available for Redmi 2. so possibility of proper stable cm12.1 is low. right now im very confused as to which phone should i get. what i want is better camera , at least 2gig ram and cm12.1 and max 5" display. seeing how mi4i has sources available are there any chances that this device will get android marshmallow ? like cm13 etc.? or i should wait for another devices such as upcoming nexus 5x or maybe mi4c ?
is this device really gets that hot as some people say ? what about normal usage with cm12.1 ? are there any bugs ? any help would be appreciated

go for Mi 4c

Toruk.Makto said:
go for Mi 4c
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Unless OP is in China, he wouldn't get that phone...
Moto X play will get marshmallow update from motorola and it will have moto assist and all (which I liked when I had the moto g) and Camera has improved too but size is a factor..
Mi 4i is compact and light, has a superb camera and screen but I don't think it will get official marshmallow update (it will get miui 7 but on lollipop itself)
About the SD 615 which powers both the phones - it heats up, that's a fact. Since the mi 4i components are so compactly built, that heat dissipation is a problem (updates in miui and CM12.1 have actually reduced the heat in moderate day to day usage). The moto X play with larger surface area may generate lesser heat, but I have no real world experience, just speculating...

Toruk.Makto said:
go for Mi 4c
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jahadmajeed said:
Unless OP is in China, he wouldn't get that phone...
Moto X play will get marshmallow update from motorola and it will have moto assist and all (which I liked when I had the moto g) and Camera has improved too but size is a factor..
Mi 4i is compact and light, has a superb camera and screen but I don't think it will get official marshmallow update (it will get miui 7 but on lollipop itself)
About the SD 615 which powers both the phones - it heats up, that's a fact. Since the mi 4i components are so compactly built, that heat dissipation is a problem (updates in miui and CM12.1 have actually reduced the heat in moderate day to day usage). The moto X play with larger surface area may generate lesser heat, but I have no real world experience, just speculating...
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thanks , that's what i was also thinking. regarding the updates moto is the better choice but it's too large for my small hands. mi4c would be better choice as it has more powerful gpu ad418 too.but i think that device is china only. i guess i should wait for nexus 5x or go with x play and try to adjust.
what about cm12.1 on mi4i ? is it stable enough for main daily driver ? also since the sources are available is it possible to make cm13 or whatever the marshmallow cm will be called for this device ? or we need marshmallow sources ?

jahadmajeed said:
Unless OP is in China, he wouldn't get that phone...
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For sure Mi 4c is going to launch in India (or Internationally)

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One plus one or honor 6 ?

i love the size and style of this phone and i would like to give huawei a try...one plus one seems to big and is getting very common.......should i go for honor 6 or save up for one+..is it worth it?
do you think that one plus one's massive specs have any practical use..i think 40k antutu score of honor 6 is more than enough.
is there any scope of strong xda support for honor 6 like we have for one plus one ?
hy,
... wait for huawei P8 ...
i think will a nice surprice:
- better camera, better standby, more compact size
purupandey said:
i love the size and style of this phone and i would like to give huawei a try...one plus one seems to big and is getting very common.......should i go for honor 6 or save up for one+..is it worth it?
do you think that one plus one's massive specs have any practical use..i think 40k antutu score of honor 6 is more than enough.
is there any scope of strong xda support for honor 6 like we have for one plus one ?
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Go for one+. Simply due to better dev support. Huawei doesn't really release all it's sources which make it very difficult for devs. I mean honor6 users will be stuck on Kitkat forever if huawei doesnt release official Lollipop whereas the 1+ is rocking stable and fast CM12 builds!
You could wait for 1+ 2 though. But it could be a long wait and and it'll be more expensive than 1+ one. So it's ur choice
I am leaning towards Honor 6 simply because I do not want a 5.5" screen. I find that too big.
My concern about Honor 6 is whether 16GB is enough as I am currently on a 32GB Xiaomi Mi2. I might just go for a 32GB Honor 6 H60-L12 shipped directly from China.
jiehao85 said:
I am leaning towards Honor 6 simply because I do not want a 5.5" screen. I find that too big.
My concern about Honor 6 is whether 16GB is enough as I am currently on a 32GB Xiaomi Mi2. I might just go for a 32GB Honor 6 H60-L12 shipped directly from China.
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You have to check which 3G/4G bands are used in your country. For example, in Europe, the One+ supports only the 4G band 2600 (and not the 800 and 1800 ones that are also used), whereas the honor6 (L04) supports all of them (and the L12 supports 2600 and 1800 but not 800).
The European version of Honor (L04) has a micro sd slot so the space is not a problem.
Apparently, the L12 does not have this slot but has two simcards.
Nonetheless, as shubham1120 said, the dev on honor is much more difficult to do that on One+ (that means no upgrade if Huawei does not want so).
Gwenm said:
The European version of Honor (L04) has a micro sd slot so the space is not a problem.
Apparently, the L12 does not have this slot but has two simcards.
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You wrong, L02/L12 have 2 sim slots and 1 micro sd slot.
VirusPlus said:
You wrong, L02/L12 have 2 sim slots and 1 micro sd slot.
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Sorry, corrected.
I understand why you want dev support. But we have CM11 which works flawless most of the time. What else could you want? Most custom ROM's are either based off the stock ROM, which no one really wants for the Honor 6, or based off a CM version. We are only behind by 1 release (CM12) so it's not that bad. The phone is great.
Currently, I have narrowed down to Moto X 2014 and Honor 6. With my workplace sponsoring me for my next mobile, I am very tempted to go with the higher priced Moto X 2014. I am basically just holding back on a 5.5" screen which I find to be far too big. Otherwise, I would have gotten OnePlus One a few months back.
on my preference, the only lacking feature on this phone is the tap to wake gesture. that is a must have on a newly released phone atleast last years releases. even the honor 6 plus and the 4x got this feature
renusuke said:
on my preference, the only lacking feature on this phone is the tap to wake gesture. that is a must have on a newly released phone atleast last years releases. even the honor 6 plus and the 4x got this feature
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If Honor 6 Plus has that feature, I am not sure why Honor 6 doesn't has it. Perhaps all it takes is a software update to enable the feature?
jiehao85 said:
Currently, I have narrowed down to Moto X 2014 and Honor 6. With my workplace sponsoring me for my next mobile, I am very tempted to go with the higher priced Moto X 2014. I am basically just holding back on a 5.5" screen which I find to be far too big. Otherwise, I would have gotten OnePlus One a few months back.
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It's a no brainier! Moto x 2014 has 5.2" screen and difference isn't much if u ask me..go for moto x and get some moto and amoled love!!:
Edit- why not go for turbo instead? Beastly specs and 64gigs!
shubham1120 said:
It's a no brainier! Moto x 2014 has 5.2" screen and difference isn't much if u ask me..go for moto x and get some moto and amoled love!!:
Edit- why not go for turbo instead? Beastly specs and 64gigs!
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Moto X have terrible battery life and no micro-sd slot.
theoneofgod said:
Moto X have terrible battery life and no micro-sd slot.
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Moto turbo then! 3900 mah is just sick!!
Also, faster updates (of course if u care about it)
I think huawei honor 6 is better than one plus one.
I own both honor 6 and OPO...Which device you want is based on your use..If you are a hardcore flasher and love the droid development and want to be ahead in terms of updates than you should start saving money for OPO..and believe me its worth to wait for invite also...But...but...if you are a casual user and want a good camera and battery life with hardcore gaming than go for honor 6 loaded with CM 11 of codeworkx...!!
Anything else??
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I asked my friend to bring me a 6plus from China recently. The screen size is a bit big. And I do not really like emui. The battery is great.
OnePlus One, simply for a better UI and dev support
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Just got a dual sim 32gb fdd-lte from China.
Coming from a galaxy s5 and a nexus 5, this phone is really smooth.
I wasn't expecting such performance from a mid range phone - I had also been using a Gionee M3/BLU Studio Energy, but the mid range mediatek processor and 1gb of ram really let it down - performance was shocking.
I ran Antutu benchmark and came out with 44,900 .. just shy of 45k .. beating out the oneplusone and S5.
fully stock with some preinstalled apps frozen, no root, no unlocked bootloader
loving it so far .. it is the same weight as the N5 but a little taller and thinner. amazing that they fit in such a large battery.
There is also that tempered glass screen protector which adds capacitive buttons and some shortcut buttons which i am waiting for (in the mail) but that should free up some more screen real estate.
am thinking of rooting just to adblock and run xposed framework.

Question: Mi4c , Mi4 deal breaker?

Hi Guys, I'm wondering if Mi4 is still worth it to get today. I have the chance on also getting the Mi4C instead. So I would like to know your experience with it and if you have had the chance to try and compare it to the Mi4C, what would you recommend me to go for.
Mi4 or Mi4C
I wonder if is it a deal breaker to get the Mi4c over the Mi4, taking in count both cameras and the processor. Considering also both with 3 gb ram, and software development such as custom roms and xiaomi official firmware.
Thanks
SD808 vs SD801... I would think the choice is obvious.
There are many things
MI4c - Newer - Faster Processor - Dual SIM - USB Typ C (very great to charging) - locked Bootloader (it is no problem to unlock!)
Mi4 - Older - but more Development custom ROM - camera2 API - Global ROM (MM 6.0.1) - Metal Frame
btw send early enough a unlock request! i have done that many days before i recived my Mi4c
are you really ok with the 16GB of Mi4 ?
you will have like 12gb available which i personally find super low...
I has Mi4 last year, and now i switched it to Mi 4c, as far no problem with two devices. No Lag or heating Issues.
but i more prefer to choose Mi 4c, its easy to use with one hand

Is the Mi 4c still good value?

This. I like Xiaomi's phones but live in a country where there are not too many options for a budget and not convinced with the Redmi 4A (my only option here besides Mi 4C and Mi 4). I tried buying a Moto G4 plus, stretching my budget a bit, but got the luck of the ghost touch issue which is annoying since it appears randomly and not only while charging. I wouldn't be convinced of the hardware even if I send it to warranty anymore.
So I found this Mi 4C (2 GB RAM) is strong phone for what I can see, I'm kind of a tinkerer and afraid of fingerprint readers, as soon as I'm convinced with the hardware I'm prepared to install custom ROMs.
Thanks for your advice and experience in advance.
I would aim for Redmi 4 prime with snap 625 instead if you can find one with decent price.
Letv LeEco Le 2 X520 is selling for 117.59 USD at TomTop. I would get that one.
To get a 2015 spec flagship for $100 that comes with Nougat sounds like a deal to me.
I don't know about 2GB version's performance, but I have the 3GB version because I have experienced of how 2GB performs. I also happen to have Mi4 (2GB). They are powered by snapdragon 8xx series. I think both are good value and performance devices, even in 2017.
I'm don't play games at all on smartphone. I'm just using it for productivity needs, business and other internet stuffs, and it works quite well and fast for multitasking like switching apps, back and forward, and so on.
The downsides for me are no official global firmware (but no worry, I can't stand MIUI though) and both has 5 inch display which is compact but it's a pain when it comes to spreadsheet..
I recommend Mi4c (4g). The cpu of 808 still works like a charm in the present day.
The prices are down as low as it go.

Honor 6X or Moto G5 Plus?

Hello guys. My Google Pixel died and Google is refusing to repair it (long story), so I need another phone, but I don't want to spend another 600 dollars.
I have two options: Huawei Honor 6X ($200 5.5 3GB RAM 32GB) or Moto G5 Plus (225 5.2 4GB RAM 64GB). The Moto looks better on paper, for 30 more dollars I get double the storage and 1GB more of ram.
I understand this forum should be biased towards the Honor, but I was wondering if any of you would give an honest opinion on why one or the other, or maybe another phone for no more than 250?
I don't play games, I am mostly using for calling, whatsapp, and pictures. Good quality of pictures are very nice to have. I am also not that interesting on ROMs as long as the standard one is updated with security fixes.
Any comments? Thank you!
kwanbis said:
Hello guys. My Google Pixel died and Google is refusing to repair it (long story), so I need another phone, but I don't want to spend another 600 dollars.
I have two options: Huawei Honor 6X ($200 5.5 3GB RAM 32GB) or Moto G5 Plus (225 5.2 4GB RAM 64GB). The Moto looks better on paper, for 30 more dollars I get double the storage and 1GB more of ram.
I understand this forum should be biased towards the Honor, but I was wondering if any of you would give an honest opinion on why one or the other, or maybe another phone for no more than 250?
I don't play games, I am mostly using for calling, whatsapp, and pictures. Good quality of pictures are very nice to have. I am also not that interesting on ROMs as long as the standard one is updated with security fixes.
Any comments? Thank you!
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I'll choose moto g5 plus if their price gap is less than 30 USD.
But, both phones are decent.
If u love just stock android... it would be better to buy moto g5 plus.
But if u love to tuning your device, honor 6x should be better.
Tuning your device by EMUI's way would be a bit difficult at first time but soon you'll be used to it.
If camera is priority go with honor also if you like using different themes to modify look amd feel of UI, Honor does better ( haven't used stock android since two years, so not sure if anything has changed recently on stock). Else stock android, timely update, sure oreo update, timely latest security patch, custom ROM support...go with moto.
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go for honor 7x,,, same price as that of moto g5 plus
What about Xiaomi Mi A1? It is 230 dollars, and it is getting really good reviews.
Honor 6x is better slim 2.5d curve, faster fingerprint, better camera, less bezel than moto g5 plus,no heating issue, bigger display,Back fingerprint scanner
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Mi Note 10 - Is it still worth buying now?

Hi guys,
Just checking with you, is this still worth it to buy as of April 2020?
Mi 10 has been released here but the pricing is too much 2599 AED which is almost near the Samsung flagships and iPhone 11. iPhone SE 2020 has been released as well with identical pricing to mi note 10 pro
What bothers me is the software update which is the usual complaints about Xiaomi phones. I don't think there's an official Android 10 now.
Please let me know of your thoughts and advise if I should buy this or not, or if you have other recommendations, it is welcome too.
Thanks guys.
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
REDOTHELLO said:
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
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is there anything you can suggest for the same price point?
Thanks for your reply. Mi 10 is released here but the pricing is too high
It still offers the best allround camera performance at the pricepoint it has now, which for me is the most important aspect.
But it is very slow at getting android 10, xiaomi in general is slow at updating to new android versions.
I would still buy it again, or wait for a global redmi k30 pro.
Mi 10/pro is just way too expensive.
OC-Freak said:
It still offers the best allround camera performance at the pricepoint it has now, which for me is the most important aspect.
But it is very slow at getting android 10, xiaomi in general is slow at updating to new android versions.
I would still buy it again, or wait for a global redmi k30 pro.
Mi 10/pro is just way too expensive.
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thank you. now I am deciding for mi note 10, real me x2 pro and Samsung note 10 (not the plus).
Still unsure but more on mi note 10 and x2 pro
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
sanoayyk said:
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
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I read today that that Stable Android 10 for CC9 Pro (Chinese Mi Note 10) was just released (V11.1.1.0.QFDCNXM). I think only a few days, then there will be a global stable...
This is the best for my budget but I am thinking due to the software updates. Realme got his own UI now. modified color OS so I am thinking this mi note 10 or the realme x2 pro
sanoayyk said:
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
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5x might be too much, I usually use less than it, like there should be step between
the software and the CPU is the one that worries me here.
engineer000 said:
the software and the CPU is the one that worries me here.
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The CPU is not an issue at all for my purposes. It's a gaming chip, so even if you play games it should be fine for most titles.
The software is another matter. I actually like MIUI, it's very iOS-like. It's the first Android I use with the stock launcher. But Xiaomi really sucks with the updates. They need to support their products better.
As pinni83 posted earlier, it looks like Android 10 is coming to us soon:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Stabl...fers-hope-for-Mi-Note-10-owners.463021.0.html
Just in time for the official release of Android 11 by Google.....
MacGuy2006 said:
The CPU is not an issue at all for my purposes. It's a gaming chip, so even if you play games it should be fine for most titles.
The software is another matter. I actually like MIUI, it's very iOS-like. It's the first Android I use with the stock launcher. But Xiaomi really sucks with the updates. They need to support their products better.
As pinni83 posted earlier, it looks like Android 10 is coming to us soon:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Stabl...fers-hope-for-Mi-Note-10-owners.463021.0.html
Just in time for the official release of Android 11 by Google.....
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So it will be long waiting for the Android 11, yeah? I think I'm gonna go with realme. They are pushing their new UI that looks like color OS with Android 10 already so android 11 can be delivered earlier than xiaomi delivers in Mi note 10
Well, I did bought the MI note 10, and returned it... Decided to buy the realme x2 pro. Honestly, the cameras of the x2 pro are good enough, but the most impressive it's the difference of speed! 500€ for a phone with the snapdragon 730G it's just nonsense. Palm rejection is awful if you plan to play cod os fortnite, at least in my experience. FP super slow compared to the x2, even though the one in the X2 it's from the first generation of on-screen FP, but it's way more accurate then the one in the note 10. The MI note 10 it's a beautiful phone, screams premium, but compared to the X2 pro, for me, it does not stand a chance. We are all here because we like to experiment with our phones, searching for the best speed/functionality, or just to play around. In the X2 pro xda section, there is not alot of custom rooms, but in the last two weeks 3 new custom fw just appeared, so I think it will be a better phone to customize. I'm a Xiaomi fan, but for now, realme is going very strong and very cheap compared to others with inferior hardware.
luisarriaga said:
Well, I did bought the MI note 10, and returned it... Decided to buy the realme x2 pro. Honestly, the cameras of the x2 pro are good enough, but the most impressive it's the difference of speed! 500€ for a phone with the snapdragon 730G it's just nonsense. Palm rejection is awful if you plan to play cod os fortnite, at least in my experience. FP super slow compared to the x2, even though the one in the X2 it's from the first generation of on-screen FP, but it's way more accurate then the one in the note 10. The MI note 10 it's a beautiful phone, screams premium, but compared to the X2 pro, for me, it does not stand a chance. We are all here because we like to experiment with our phones, searching for the best speed/functionality, or just to play around. In the X2 pro xda section, there is not alot of custom rooms, but in the last two weeks 3 new custom fw just appeared, so I think it will be a better phone to customize. I'm a Xiaomi fan, but for now, realme is going very strong and very cheap compared to others with inferior hardware.
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm checking where I can buy realme with local warranty here in UAE and will decide based on that. oneplus 8 here is a Chinese version flashed with oxygen OS so I doubt about 5G. I can buy realme here but it is import from India. I will check and let you know
ond96 said:
5x might be too much, I usually use less than it, like there should be step between
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There are 500 steps between from 1 to 50X (not really usable) in 0,1 steps. Best results are up to 5x, but good results also to 10 and 15 times. Look here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzQBUmv0N-fBJfbLPyFKIMJS4D2qD2I6/view?usp=sharing
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My last Xiaomi, Mi Mix 3 with Snapdragon 845, was not really faster, in some cases Note 10 is a little bit slower, but in most, especially networking, it´s much faster and smoother. But i´m not a gamer, for my usage the Note 10/ Pro is fast enough for all apps. In next month we will get Android 10/ MiUI 12, this will also be a big step forward.
Neo XL said:
There are 500 steps between from 1 to 50X (not really usable) in 0,1 steps. Best results are up to 5x, but good results also to 10 and 15 times. Look here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzQBUmv0N-fBJfbLPyFKIMJS4D2qD2I6/view?usp=sharing
My last Xiaomi, Mi Mix 3 with Snapdragon 845, was not really faster, in some cases Note 10 is a little bit slower, but in most, especially networking, it´s much faster and smoother. But i´m not a gamer, for my usage the Note 10/ Pro is fast enough for all apps. In next month we will get Android 10/ MiUI 12, this will also be a big step forward.
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Thanks. I am thinking about this too. MIUI 12 previews in youtube are very cool with the features I am missing in my former MIUI devices.
REDOTHELLO said:
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
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Why do you say the phone is not supported by Xiaomi? MIUI 12 will be released for the Mi Note 10 sometime in June.
I was about to purchase the Mi9T and was bothered by the camera.
The Mi Note 10 seem to be the best for me.
I still did not purchase it. why?
The main difference from the 9T is the camera, and if that amazing camera lacks performance I'm not sure it worth that difference in price...
would appreciate your suggestions.
I currently have the Mi 9 SE. For me personally the performance is fine (snapdragon 712), battery is fine too (3070mah), camera is great but only with gcam (currently gcam mods have problems support all lenses) also very easy to debloat. I do mostly two things on my phone; browsing and tinkering with the camera. So naturally Mi 10 Note is perfect. I just worry about the size and weight. Is it easy to get use to it?
I'm mostly worried that adding 100$+ for the cameras (comparing to 9T) simply doesn't worth it.
The Note 10 has the exact same specifications in terms for cpu and graphics with the 9T.
The main difference are the cameras.
If the 730 does not stand up with the required performance for such great lens power, there's no use to it.
So here I am puzzled between 9T and Note 10...

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