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I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
1. No
2. 2 days for me
3. Yes
4. No
5. Yes, never tried it
6. Never tried it
1. No, there is about 250MB free on stock from what I remember. The larger issue is HTC's changes to multitasking. I question whether the 1GB of RAM would be enough 2 years from now though.
2. Easily 1 full day of moderate usage.
3. Yes
4. No, not really. It seems to have better coverage than some of the other phones you can buy from TMO. I dropped a call while using WiFi calling (the whole network connection dropped out), but I don't think it is a phone issue. I think TMO needs to work on their WiFi calling software.
5. Yes, 2 or 3 of them... sigh
6. idk
rakeshchn said:
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all.
KillaHurtz said:
The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all.
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The front facing camera is TERRIBLE... but overall I think the One S is pretty awesome. Wish it had 2GB of ram though... but I'm happy with it.
WCCobra said:
The front facing camera is TERRIBLE... but overall I think the One S is pretty awesome. Wish it had 2GB of ram though... but I'm happy with it.
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I had it for all of 2 weeks, couldn't hack the super low storage space, non removable battery, pentile screen......and that god awful VGA. What a joke. Processor is top notch and the back is sexy, but over all it seems like Sensation 3.0 (2.0 was the Amaze fyi). After having 4.5" of samoled plus expandable storage and removable battery I immediately went back to Sammy. Got myself a Note and haven't regretted it. The GS3 is my next phone for sure when the price gouging goes down.
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I had it for all of 2 weeks, couldn't hack the super low storage space, non removable battery, pentile screen......and that god awful VGA. What a joke. Processor is top notch and the back is sexy, but over all it seems like Sensation 3.0 (2.0 was the Amaze fyi). After having 4.5" of samoled plus expandable storage and removable battery I immediately went back to Sammy. Got myself a Note and haven't regretted it. The GS3 is my next phone for sure when the price gouging goes down.
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27052484&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
Pointing out the VGA as a weakness means nothing at all.
Good for you KillaHurtz, enjoy your note and your new GS 3 when you get it and have lots of fun with the superior front camera, most important feature right there!
Us HTC one S owners will enjoy our superior processor (for performance per core, better power efficiency and far less heat produced), superior build and perceived quality, not to mention looks and design.......... superior android skin, superior main camera for photos and features in the camera and gallery etc. and better battery life etc.
In anandtechs review of the USA version of the GS 3, which has the S4, the one S and the XL whips its ass in the majority of benchmarks!
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
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haha
Anyway, moving on:
rakeshchn said:
guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. I have disabled a ton of apps, which are not necessary and have no problems with multi-tasking, however, when switching from a game or some demanding app back to the browser, tabs do reload
2. There are plenty of threads on battery life here and plenty of screenshots of my usage for my review of the 1S (link in sig) and throughout that thread, to sum it up, amazing the best there is
3. Very well, GPS locks on very quick for me (UK, N.I.), never properly used navigation but it does seem to work fine when I have quickly tried it out, if you aren't satisfied you can get tom tom or some other navigation app
4. As shown in that post above of mine linked by big_den, none whatsoever
5. Can't comment on t-mobile version but the international version we have a FM radio and it only works when headphones are plugged in
6. You can see my mini review of a standard generic MHL adapter below. It appears though that the refresh rate is a bug, as it only has a 24Hz refresh rate, however, a guy here modded a kernel so that the resolution is dropped to 720P and 60Hz refresh rate iirc.
Basically you go for the GS 3 if you want this stuff:
- better and bigger screen
- more storage
- NFC
- better community for custom ROMs etc.
- much better 1080P recording
Go for the one S if you want this stuff:
- far better out of the box experience, sense is much nicer to use and has great apps e.g. the dialer, gallery, calendar, camera etc. which can't be matched by 3rd party apps
- better battery life
- far better looks/design and build/perceived quality
- better camera for photos and features overall
In the real world, performance is more or less the same really.
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Just realised you were talking about the USA versions, in that case the GPU and CPU is the same as the S, adreno 225 and S4
However, as I mentioned above the S whips the GS 3 that has the S4 etc. in the majority of stuff, so sense appears to be far better optimized than touchwiz regarding that.
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Basically you go for the GS 3 if you want this stuff:
- far better GPU
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All US GS3 versions use the S4 MSM8960 which has the same GPU as the One S has (Adreno 225). In fact, graphics performance should be better on the One S as it's driving a smaller screen.
And to answer the OP:
1) Not really. Browser does reload from time to time but I've never had Sense reloads like I did on the Sensation.
2) Good in my experience - should be at least a day if not more.
3) Yes.
4) Not in my experience.
5) Yes. Worked with my usual headphones as well as old iPod ones.
6) Never tried it.
Yeah, I just noticed that he meant the USA versions and always keep forgetting about these mobiles having different hardware in different parts of the world
And yup, the one S (even the XL, which has the same res.) whips the GS 3 s4 version.......
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...axy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants
So just shows that sense must be better optimized than touchwiz overall here.
Big_Den said:
Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
Pointing out the VGA as a weakness means nothing at all.
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Not quite sure how that was having my ass handed to me. The guy said he doesn't use the FFC, with faceunlock a good front facing camera is key. I also take a ton of pics with my friends that way, and all this coming from a n00b mean ****e you toothless bloke.
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Good for you KillaHurtz, enjoy your note and your new GS 3 when you get it and have lots of fun with the superior front camera, most important feature right there!
Us HTC one S owners will enjoy our superior processor (for performance per core, better power efficiency and far less heat produced), superior build and perceived quality, not to mention looks and design.......... superior android skin, superior main camera for photos and features in the camera and gallery etc. and better battery life etc.
In anandtechs review of the USA version of the GS 3, which has the S4, the one S and the XL whips its ass in the majority of benchmarks!
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Well I also pointed out the pentile display which is gross, and the signal issue which there is tons of threads about. The One S and GS3 are similar to how the Sensation & GS2 T989 were related. Same processor, but the Sensation suffered from signal issues, lag and a poor FFC. Sense, whether you like it or not takes a lot of resources. FACT. The GS2 with the same exact processor performed leaps and bounds better and I have no doubt the GS3 is the same way this time around. I have owned all said devices, so this is not speculation or some bloggers paid opinion. The fact that you said US HTC One S users will have a superior processor.......umm how if it's the exact same one within the GS3?, 2gb of RAM sounds superior to me. Multitasking is a pain on the One S (one again, I have owned it) it can't even switch back to a webpage without having to reload. The One S may perform marginally better on an outdated & pixelated screen with crippled expansion abilities. Take that to the bank fanboys. Fail harder next time please
It all comes down to preference.
HTC always makes gorgeous exteriors that usually cause signal issues & they take forever to release source (Has is been yet?) Better build quality sure, but at the cost of performance?
Sense is super intensive on RAM and CPU and runs super deep into the android framework.
Samsung makes lighter, usually polycarbonate bodies to reduce weight and make them easier to replace. Signal has never been an issue with me on a Galaxy phone because of this design. Samsung released source code for the GS3 before the phone was officially released. CYANOGEN himself works for Samsung into helping them make the most cutting edge, efficient, and powerful coding for software.
I also have used the face camera unlock and have had no problems with it whatsoever Doesn't work in pitch black obviously but every time I unlock the device, the screen is also unlocked straight away. Take the ugly mask off
In your opinion the display is gross, not my opinion and same for many others, have shown everyone of my friends and family the display and they have been very impressed with it, one of the first things that they comment on.
Again, just because there are ton of threads where people are stating an issue doesn't mean that it applies to everyone.......... Many people only voice there opinions when something goes wrong and never any positives. And we only make up a very small % of owners for the S on this forum.
Again, you seem to be ignoring the screenshots in my post that I addressed these issues again, no problems with resources regarding RAM etc. as I have shown with the task manager. And if it really was hogging resources then please explain why the battery life is so great (for the S and XL) and outmatches the GS 3 S4 version despite the GS 3 having the bigger battery?????? So it musn't be FACT
Again what a strange observation you make, because I have had the GS 2 on stock ICS right beside my stock S and the performance was far better in everything, everything was just more instant and even my friend who owns the GS 2 said the exact same and the majority of people who have upgraded from the GS 2 to the S.
go and try loading a page full of gifs and see what comes out on top between the S, GS 2 and note.
Wrong again, people who have the S and GS 3 have said that both are just the same overall, the GS 3 is slightly smoother but in terms of raw speed, more or less the same. I also have had the 2 side by side and they are the same pretty much, GS 3 smoother but not by much.
Likewise! (not owned but plenty of time with the top end devices) and also these opinions are coming from other forums and these guys have owned every device there is and to just show good the S is, this one guy usually upgrades his mobile to the latest and greatest and sells the old one to fund it, but guess what, he didn't, he kept both the S and GS 3 because he loves the S sooo much as well, he didn't want to get rid of it and the only reason he is sticking with the GS 3 is due to storage, shocker!
Hmm, you obviously didn't read the post properly? Either that or you are a bit dumb and can't read I was talking about your note as well.........
And once again, in the benchmarks according to anandtech the one S is far superior to the GS 3 S4 version. "Sense not as well optimized and hogs resources"...........lol
Tell me where 2GB of RAM will be useful?
Sir, I think everyone knows who has failed here particularly after this, "The One S is ****e m8" and it most certainly isn't me or anyone else in this thread, but YOU, so back to the note/GS 3 threads where you belong
And the only one who is a fanboy here, is you
I wonder why all the review sites particularly gsmarena who are quite harsh on everything apart from the flagship devices spoke so highly of the S
Again, signal issues........I have no problems, but you seem to have ignored my post with screenshots showing that as usual
Yes the kernel source has been released for quite a while now.
You obviously didn't look at the anandtechs review as usual
Again, you obviously haven't seen my battery life screenshots and anandtechs review, if something is so intrusive and resource hungry then why does it perform better, why does it get better battery life?
LOL you have failed once again, the one S is lighter by a fair bit compared to the GS 3 and thinner hahahaha
Also polycarbonate bodies............emmmm they use cheap ass glossy plastic which makes the phone look like a cheap fisher price toy, the X/XL uses polycarbonate body.
Again no issues with signal here for me.
What a surprise the community is better than the one S.........I couldn't give a rats ass about the kernel source or ROMs etc. as I have no intentions of rooting the one S or flashing a custom ROM because it is PERFECT for ME.
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"toothless bloke" bahahahahaha, are you like 12 or something?
And it is quite clear that you are the noob!
Terminator19, you said what most people on this forum think, but in the most eloquent way. At the end of the day, this guy bought the S and had a bad experience. Even though thousands users and people in the industry disagree. Good that he likes his Note and all the best for his GS3.
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Hmm, you obviously didn't read the post properly? Either that or you are a bit dumb and can't read I was talking about your note as well.........
You keep comparing the One S to phones that carry the S3 processor, why ?
And the only one who is a fanboy here, is you
I'm an Android Fanboy, you got me there. I had had all HTC devices until the GS2 T989 (so from 2008 to October 2011)
Again, signal issues........I have no problems, but you seem to have ignored my post with screenshots showing that as usual
I think it's great when people don't experience those issues that plague a device.
Yes the kernel source has been released for quite a while now.
Great the device has been out and devs were flatout pissed about HTCs GPL compliance
Again, you obviously haven't seen my battery life screenshots and anandtechs review, if something is so intrusive and resource hungry then why does it perform better, why does it get better battery life?
Once again this is relative and I never mentioned battery life as a factor. When I had my One S I wasn't impressed compared to my T989. Yes the One S should get better battery life as the processor is optimized for it
LOL you have failed once again, the one S is lighter by a fair bit compared to the GS 3 and thinner hahahaha
Never said the GS3 was lighter or thinner m8
Also polycarbonate bodies............emmmm they use cheap ass glossy plastic which makes the phone look like a cheap fisher price toy, the X/XL uses polycarbonate body.
Once again they do use polycarbonate, maybe you should look up what that actually is. Some people like shiny things
What a surprise the community is better than the one S.........I couldn't give a rats ass about the kernel source or ROMs etc. as I have no intentions of rooting the one S or flashing a custom ROM because it is PERFECT for ME.
Why are you on a developers site then?
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You also mentioned the One S can load a pageful of .gifs faster than a Note or GS2, big surprise there bro. That's like comparing a Mustang to a Ferrari, of course the One S beats those at a totally useless test. You are comparing last years technology to one that is cutting edge. Of course the benchmarks are gonna be higher for the One S, it's running a smaller & lower rez screen. If were to run the same hardware on a 2" screen I would dust the One S by double. Kudos on the astonishing, non pertinent info which showcases your lack of how technology actually works. Kudos.
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Terminator19, you said what most people on this forum think, but in the most eloquent way. At the end of the day, this guy bought the S and had a bad experience. Even though thousands users and people in the industry disagree. Good that he likes his Note and all the best for his GS3.
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Yeah, I usually don't post too much "defending" the phone especially "attacking" other phones etc. but it is getting tiring and irritating seeing the same posts by the same couple of people (think we all know who the other one is ) who keep posting the same xxxx in every thread where someone asks about the one S vs xxx or the pros and cons etc. and thinking that it applies to every single S there is and therefore the mobile is **** etc. etc.
Indeed, I have no problems with him liking a different mobile etc. just don't see the point of trashing the phone in it's own sub-forum when he had a bad experience.
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Yeah, I usually don't post too much "defending" the phone especially "attacking" other phones etc. but it is getting tiring and irritating seeing the same posts by the same couple of people (think we all know who the other one is ) who keep posting the same xxxx in every thread where someone asks about the one S vs xxx or the pros and cons etc. and thinking that it applies to every single S there is and therefore the mobile is **** etc. etc.
Indeed, I have no problems with him liking a different mobile etc. just don't see the point of trashing the phone in it's own sub-forum when he had a bad experience.
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I'm not trashing anything dude, these are simple facts that people may be overlooking. Someone asked a legitimate question and I am answering it with real world experience. I loved the One S to be honest, great camera, great form factory and benches that would make the android horsepower gurus drool.
Believe me I was sold, I actually bought it I liked it so much. I'm only providing a balanced view of things, and while my attitude may seem crude, the facts are not. This is a forum where people who sometimes have no insight of these products look to users/owners for advice. I am trying to provide that from an actual, non biased place. Sorry if it seems otherwise, sincerely.
I gave up my One S because it didn't seem like much of an upgrade. I am one of the dudes that has his phone filled with .FLACs, and full movies for my 3 year old daughter. I am what I would consider a power user and most times need an extra battery to get me thru the day. I hate being plugged in and hate streaming from a cloud because most of the time it reduces the quality of music, which defeats my extensive .FLAC library. That, and the fact that I travel to places in my state where coverage isn't so great. Was it a bad experience, no. I love HTC, this particular device I had to let go because it didn't fit my lifestyle, that's it.
I am not just comparing the phone to the phones that have the S3 chip.......I am comparing it to every other phone there is and the S4 is superior to every CPU even the quad in the GS 3 and X, not just for raw speed per core but also heat and power efficiency as well.
No you didn't but you keep saying about sense being a huge resource hog, however, how can it be if the one S and XL get great battery life if RAM and CPU is being hogged? Just like an app, which doesn't close when required and will hog resources and drain battery life. Granted the S4 helps a lot but even still if resources are being hogged then the battery life wouldn't be as good, also if sense was such a huge hog then the battery life would be nowhere as good and the one S is better than the GS 3 S4 version for battery life, and you said that touchwiz is far lighter and better optimized than sense, once again why would the battery life be worse on the GS 3 and better on the S etc.? (and yes I know the screen is bigger and higher res. on the GS 3 but the bigger battery makes up for that and the XL is still better anyway.
Also the hardware is crap/pointless if the software/drivers aren't optimized for it.
You said lighter
"Samsung makes lighter, usually polycarbonate bodies to reduce weight and make them easier to replace."
Yes it is polycarbonate, however, they ruin the true feel/look of it by having that hyperglaze/glossy finish to it.
This site isn't solely for discussion of ROM's, tweaks etc. but also discussion of apps, general stuff like accessories and useful info. on certain stuff.
Well, yes I used that comparison because you said this:
"The GS2 with the same exact processor performed leaps and bounds better"
Not really a useless test, well for me anyway, as I am a heavy web browser and a random gif thread is one of the many threads that I visit daily, so would like them to be smooth rather than a slideshow.
I didn't compare just the S and GS 3, but also the XL, which does have the same res. as the GS 3.
Again, I think you will find that everything is connected and thus all of my post has perfectly suited your points. It isn't just a simple oh processor better therefore that is better etc.
Right you go and say that in your last post and then you say this at the beginning of the thread:
"The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all."
Also I am not bias to the S at all, I have stated that there are faults/weak areas many times and in my review of the S as well:
Cons:
No NFC
No SD card slot and limited internal storage
Non-removable battery
Uses a pentile matrix instead of RGB
Notification LED isn't great
However, most of those things don't bother me too much, if at all now, the only thing that really bothers me is the NLED.
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Not only that but if you are wanting to give people advice on the S since you have owned it, then why didn't you answer the OP questions instead of just saying that one line, which isn't true as you just stated in your last post there pretty much and he didn't ask about the front camera at all.
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Also considering you stated there that you put flacs and films etc. on your mobiles, surely you should have known that was going to be an issue with the S in the first place then???
rakeshchn said:
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. Yes. It's a major issue with One X as well. I usually do a lot of browsing and have at least 3 tabs open and every time I switch to any other app (eg. Messaging) and go back to browser, it just reloads. This is ridiculous because sometimes I am typing something on the webpage before switching and I lose everything. Even xda app reloads after switching to messaging. I am thinking of getting GSIII because of this issue. I know I can root and get a custom Rom to make this work but again this is an expensive phone and such a trivial feature of android should work out of the box!
2. 1 day with gmail, 2 other personal emails, gvoice and a lot of browsing.
3. Yes
4. Yes. It's ironic that I never had any dropped calls with my older phones Amaze, MT4GS.
5. Never tried
6. Never tried. Sorry.
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I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. I suffer from Wifi error after a system upgrade and now auto-reset after replacing a new one from Costco. But other things work pretty fine
2.less than 1 day
3.Yes, work quite well. But it eats a lot of battery
4.Sometimes drop calls.Also there are some 4G signal issues while using it indoor. But not as worst as Sensation 4G
5. Yes, there are FM tuner.
6. MHL work quite fine. I tested it on a 24" no-speaker-moniter. So don't know how it sounds like.
I suggest that you should wait for a GSIII instead, it will be a lot more better than One S. Replacable battery, upgradable memory(support up to 64 GB micro-SD card) , large battery(that's 2100mAh Vs. 1650mAh HTC One S), and also 2GB of ram(that's HTC One S 's double!!). But it will use Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor instead of quad-core, which means same as HTC One S. The only good thing about HTC One S is good camera, the brilliant HTC Sense 4.0, beats audio, extremly thin and light weight.
PS: If my One S suffer from annoying auto-restarting, can I just return the phone to Costco and grab a GS III??
One S is the best bang for your buck right now in the US. Although i wonder if we are gonna get 4.1 quickly since it looks like a minor upgrade.
The point of this post is just to share my thoughts about the direction Motorola has taken with flagships. After using this phone for more than a year I can conclude:
Besides near stock Android and Turbo charging, the phone is mediocre at best. I have never felt as good as what i felt with my previous flagships (a Oneplus One).
The Battery life is way below average. After using the phone for a year the battery has really started to show its age and its not lasting as long as it should.
Another annoying issue I noticed is the fact that Motorola implements almost the same design language for their lower end G series and X series. Apart from the size, someone who isn't a tech geek can easily mistake my Pure for a lower end Motorola phone. The new Z series has fixed this, but again it would be difficult for the uninitiated to tell the difference between a Moto Z Play and the more premium Moto Z. Samsung, LG, HTC, Xiaomi go to great lengths to ensure that their flagships stand out and look very different from the budget phones.
I dont think i need to mention the fact that ever since Lenovo has taken over, the update wait time has increased a great deal, new reports suggest that the Pure will only get Noughat in May 2017
The developers that choose to work on the Pure deserve a lot of credit, but the fact is that a lot of developers chose to develop for other devices rather than the Pure.
A lot of accessory manufacturers decided that the moto X Pure didn't deserve any attention. To find a decent case was not very easy, (I especially missed using a Spigen case) and the fact that there is not a single working tempered Screen glass protector proves this. (I know the Pleson works almost 100% but its not available freely in all countries neither is it perfect.)
In conclusion I'm pretty sure this will be my last Motorola phone simply because it would be smarter to spend a little more and get a Galaxy, and with phones like the Oneplus 3T it makes little sense to buy a phone like the Moto Z which is priced considerably higher.
Would love to hear from other people what they think and if they are going to stay loyal to Motorola.
Heavy weight
Easy to get heated
The point about sharing design with mid range Moto phones is dope. People often ask if it's a Moto X Play or a Moto G 3rd Gen and then we need to tell them it's X Style ??
Well ... I understand your point of view, but what I think is that you chose badly the device, since you found him "mediocre at best"
The points listed:
Comparing the most powerful AND STABLE 32-bit processor to the second in line of Qualcomm's 64-bit generation SOC's with new architecture and everything else, I believe to be extremely wrong, since after the SD810 fiasco the creation of the SD808 was the fix the company used (and i think it was a good one, but this is something mostly disagree with me '^^)
About the OnePlus One, it is really a beast phone with the SD801 (the 32bits GOD) and i understand that you had a remarkable experience with it, since i had (now it is with my girlfriend) an Xperia Z3 with the same SD801 as the OnePlus One i understand when you say it was a more fluid usage, since i think the same, but... I don't think you can compare something that is pretty stable with some new technology.
I never had any problems with the battery because i use as a normal phone and i play games only at home and waiting in lines (bank/medic/...), it gives me something next to 18 hours (stock ROM/kernel) of use with 3 hour SOT or 7 to 8 hours SOT when i use it to watch movies/series/animes in my bed, mostly at weekends. Through the week i unplug it from charger at 6:30, go to work, and at 18:00 i go back home (40 ~ 35% left), the weekend is always a mess for battery stats,
As for the design I don’t have much to say, because I find it very beautiful, and being same design language is a plus for me, i like to have a “invisible phone” in the croud, only people that asks me what is my phone should know the answer.
Now the two really bad points ...
As for Lenovo acquiring Motorola, I fully agree that it was dumb, at least it should keep Motorola working as it always did.
And the lack of smartphone accessories really is laughable
We can keep talking about it, but i really think is a good phone and the testing Nougat ROM's are amazing, i can't wait for the official Nougat update.
btw all samsungs look the same too, comapre new A series with S: very simmilar glass on glass design.
other than that, you're right there are some dissapoitments but it's not real flagship phone, it's more like very good mid-end device, It was never priced like a flagship so don't expect it to be real flagship - that's my opinion. OPO is a differen't story, they managed to get price down with other ways like it's distribution, services ect.
It is a flagship phone. Why would you think otherwise? SD 8xx, 5.7" 2K screen, 21 MP back camera, etc. Upon release the starting price for 16gb was $399, while most mid range phones hit at $250-$300. At this point, nearly 2 years later, it could be considered a mid range but that is because hardware moves forward.
As to my thoughts: I think this is a great phone, even now. I run unrooted stock and pretty much it is a Nexus device with a few extras for customization thrown via Moto apps. These apps are few and I appreciate that they add actual additional features and not just replicate what Android and Google actually does already. The phone runs smooth, has a good camera for good lighting, and handles everything I throw at it. I will admit that battery life could be better, but it is acceptable and at least the turbo charge makes up for this shortcoming. I don't regret this purchase, even if the update process is dismal.
Update: I have hit the end of my warranty period, so I unlocked the bootloader and rooted. I have applied my favorite rooted apps and settings (Xposed, amplify, Greenify, TiBu to disable/uninstall certain apps and services, BBS to track wakelocks, and AdAway) so hopefully I will see improved battery life.
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Znomon said:
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
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I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Note 2 holdout here too . I'm just finishing up my first week since the upgrade and am quite pleased so far. I have the feeling that the MXPE is going to be a good low maintenance, long haul phone that I can get a few good years of service out of without too much hand-holding, just like with the Note. And with a nice, bright LCD screen instead of Led, I won't ever have to worry about burn-in or custom kernels to help correct green tint; pretty much everything just works. In fact, there's a ton of features that used to require a special app or a custom rom on the Note 2 that are built right in to the X, so there was a lot less effort required out-of-the-box to get everything to work, and on the stock Rom, no less! Even tethering works on the stock rom, which is something that I've never seen on any smartphone in my life.
Comparing the battery life of the two devices, I have yet to conclude any formal tests, but so far, the Pure Edition looks like it's going to be delivering 3-4 hours of screen-on time at best, while the Note 2 delivered as much as 4-5 hours on a good day. That said, I used that phone much more conservatively, so that could have something to do with it, but overall, the runtime of the Pure Edition isn't looking all that great. I think it's just got too much power for its own good, and when you combine that with a ludicrously-high screen resolution, (which demands more effort to render those high-resolution fonts and animations) it strains the CPU and GPU more. Time will tell if things improve after I settle in with it.
Overall I am happy with my X pure, though I share some of the others gripes.
Pros
-Screen
-Above average camera
-Good front camera with flash
-Good CPU, 3GB RAM
-front speakers
-no complaint on call quality
-Sd card slot - I have a 64GB card split as 20GB adopted and 40GB external
-moto ROM is near stock
-Moto features are well done (lock screen notifications)
-Simple unlock/root process
-GSM & CDMA = yes on VZ
-Quich charge 2
-understated design (I like it, others not as much)
- PRICE for these features unmatched
Cons
-Gets hot under load
-Battery life could be better - depends on how much I use it. GPS OFF helps. QC is a necessity with this phone
- lack of choice for accessories
- curved back - one handed is a chore and can't use on the table face up. It does feel nice to hold for a call though.
Other
- upgrade cycle has been slower than some would like. However it still exists at least. Other phones would be dead by now, this one is still alive.
Overall, Pros outweigh the cons and there is a lot for me to love about this phone.
I think I have been spoiled, because I'm finding it hard to find a device to upgrade to without sacrifices. The only phones I would consider are the Pixel and Moto G4 and one is expensive and the other underpowered.
well, i did the poll but i did it as a yes i would buy another, with condition of course.
i came from the original disappointed motorola fans, the Photon 4G fan. back then... it was the photon of the era. It had the ability to work as a PC, GSM capabilities, 4G wimax and at the time was the best performance with dual core 1 gigahertz and qHD. really a prime of a phone at that time compared to the S2 and the evo. cyanogenmod came out and did wonders on that phone because moto blur was so trashy. Then... the worst happened. Sprint ordered motorola to lock down the bootloader to 2.3.6 which is severely locked and no modifications were allowed to be done anymore. those who were lucky to not have 2.3.6 were able to mod to ICS but those who had 2.3.6 had to bootstrap the phone to work with cyanogenmod and that even was a piss poor attempt at making it work.
now i buy the moto x pure with alot of resentment from the photon but after hearing the reviews is when i bought it. after plagues of hardware problems with hte nexus 5 i simply needed a way to go back and the best device was the moto x. i was so sure i wanted this phone i custom ordered it (after reading rave reviews), i ordered the black leather with red accent 64 gig with 2 years protection. with over a year on this phone... i will admit i still love it.
there were a few hardware problems but i do have the 2 year protection and they did repair it for me... replaced the screen and the battery and wireless modules. i since then have not had problems with it (and believe they remedied the issues that i had with the older devices). i own an HTC M9, and my sister has the s7 edge. the only thing i like about the m9 is the dolby atmos and the carrier aggregation (hoping for a wireless update for the X). other than that... my phone is still superior despite older technology.
why?
i love my moto x because of the moto display. my absolute favorite! i also love the flash light and camera gestures.
the camera works great, signal is still better than most other phones, it barely crashes, the speakers still work very well, still speedy, turbo charge is still an amazing product and i bought the car charger for it. battery had 90 mins on screen time and still has 41% battery and i like the fact its unlocked gsm. i tried freedom pop a few weeks ago and i put that sim in. switched over quickly and it worked great then when i was done... i put my sprint sim back in and it worked just as great too.
the reason i dont see much to switch to however is because samsung, LG, and HTC hasnt really enticed me yet as to why their phone is better. samsung i have to see what will make them different... but LG really hasnt enticed me and im curious on what HTC does, though im not a metal phone fan (feel the feraday cage idea disintegrates the signal, IMO). Pixel is nice... but i simply dont have the money.
what would make me switch to another phone...
1) 4 gig of ram (preferably 6 gigs)
2) HPUE has to be baked in for Sprint LTE at a minimum but 5 channel aggregation would be amazing, AND GSM UNLOCKED
3) best camera software
4) minimum 5.5 inch screen
5) battery that will last for full 24 hours without need of charge or quick charge 4.0 with dual pol
6) shatter resistance and waterproof
for now... the moto x meets my demands without incremental improvements until i see whats next. hopefully a moto z successor that actually works on sprint
In the 2 years it has been out the update cycle has been slower than Samsung's Motorola did not deliver on the support side the main selling point they had with this device was it was going to be similar to the Nexus upgrade cycle well my warranty was up before the first update came out... In addition to the fiasco that is accessories for this phone I am really regretting not going with the LG v10
I don't know why everyone still complains about the accessories. This was never a mainstream device since it was completely carrier independent and sold unlocked. The previous Moto X (and Moto G) line was sold as both branded and unlocked so they were actually seen at pretty much any company that sold cellular service. For those looking for contract or payment plan pricing, they could get it from the carrier. With limited visibility, and the lack of payment plans through carriers the Pure was just not that popular. Companies that make accessories are going to focus on popular selling phones first as that is where they will make the most money... At least we have some options.
I sold my Moto X Pure to buy a Google Pixel XL.
If I were to sell the Pixel XL, then the Moto X Pure is the only phone I'd consider buying.
It was the best all-around phone I've ever had.
I'd even go with it over the new OnePlus 3 second edition or Galaxy S7 variants.
Regardless of price.
Moto Z. lmao what a stinker that phone is compared to Moto X Pure.
Unless you want pretty. Then you shouldn't even be on XDA if that's all you care about.
Interesting comments. I've been a Nexus owner for years, with the 6P being my prior phone. It became my prior phone due to the all too common Boot Loop of Death (BLOD) that seems to be impacting more and more owners. While Huawei did replace it with a refurb'ed model, not in mint shape like the one I sent, but it did come back with 128g instead of the 32g I sent. The battery is terrible as compared with the MXPE, I've been through most of the custom roms/kernels and nothing has really helped and I don't do social media nor play games on it. The built in features of the Moto really impressed me, they are actually functional and add value. The Moto Display is excellent as is the voice recognition of the Moto voice. The bluetooth stack seems to have issues (with me at least), my cell signal is a bit worse and the lack of updates is sad.
I've considered the Pixel, but the price is insane and after having the Pixel features on the 6P I'm happy with the Moto.
When I got my 6P back, it took about a week to change my sim back to it from the Moto, I put it back in the Moto the next day and don't plan on taking it out.
I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
3. The camera now fails to operate because of a "lack of disk space" -- although I have more than 24GB available.
Like you, I will never buy another Motorola phone.
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I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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I've had issues with static, but only on some select 3.5mm plugs. I just figure it was that specific plug itself.
Have had no issues with my SanDisk plus. I use it as removable storage and not as adopted storage. But going back to your statement, I have owned a multiple phones and have noticed some don't play well with certain brands of cards but do well with others. I'm not sure why this is but it does happen.
I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
Times have changed
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I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
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Newer versions of Android (and their apps, along with the stock Rom apparently) are not nearly as frugal with the 16GB of storage as the Note2 was. I'm already at 7.8/9.6GB used with just a basic load of apps and data (music is on the card and camera photos are also directed to be stored there) on the MXPE.
For comparison, my Note2 has a massive load of software & data, plus a ton of camera photos, all on the main storage volume, and only 6.26GB out of the total 10.95GB available are used.
All that to say that 16GB used to be plenty, but "modern" software is just too bloated for that. If I do upgrade phones anytime in the next ~2 years, it'll probably be to a larger Moto X Pure Edition, but for now, that 64GB MicroSD card should be plenty adequate.
Long time lurker looking for some advice.
After doing some research, I'm seriously considering purchasing a moto g Turbo.
The community here seems really active and positive, with new updates coming pretty fast and I would like to get involved with development.
The price difference between the 2015 and turbo is only about 20 euro at the moment, but the performance difference seems pretty huge, which means I'm leaning towards the turbo.
All of my previous phones have had issues with the usb port, which is no big deal to replace in general, and in this case it couldn't be easier, except I don't see a lot of replacement parts for the xt 1557 model available online. How difficult is it to get parts?
It seems like when there are parts available, it's almost always the sim card / mem card flex cable. Is this a common replacement?
With official lineage os support are we likely to see a resurgence? with the device aging as it is, are we likely to see more or fewer repair options avaible?
Can anyone offer advice or recommendations?
Have you had to replace anything? Which parts? were they pretty expensive or quite reasonable?
Thanks in advance!
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Long time lurker looking for some advice.
After doing some research, I'm seriously considering purchasing a moto g Turbo.
The community here seems really active and positive, with new updates coming pretty fast and I would like to get involved with development.
The price difference between the 2015 and turbo is only about 20 euro at the moment, but the performance difference seems pretty huge, which means I'm leaning towards the turbo.
All of my previous phones have had issues with the usb port, which is no big deal to replace in general, and in this case it couldn't be easier, except I don't see a lot of replacement parts for the xt 1557 model available online. How difficult is it to get parts?
It seems like when there are parts available, it's almost always the sim card / mem card flex cable. Is this a common replacement?
With official lineage os support are we likely to see a resurgence? with the device aging as it is, are we likely to see more or fewer repair options avaible?
Can anyone offer advice or recommendations?
Have you had to replace anything? Which parts? were they pretty expensive or quite reasonable?
Thanks in advance!
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Since the phone is similar to moto g3 getting replacement parts will not be that big of a problem. Motp g3 is quite popular. And moto phones do not break so easily u can buy moto g turbo without any problem.
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Since the phone is similar to moto g3 getting replacement parts will not be that big of a problem. Motp g3 is quite popular. And moto phones do not break so easily u can buy moto g turbo without any problem.
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Thanks for the reply
My understanding was that the g3 was a very popular phone, but that the turbo had a somewhat limited release. (which we can see with the number of rom/kernel variations as well)
I am only a little nervous, but I've run into a number of hardware problems in the past, where quite similar didn't work.
Has anyone tried replacing the moto g turbo usb port with a replacement from the g3?
I can't see them changing the build, and I've watched teardown videos, but I can't find a hi res
image of them online to compare.
From the form factor of the body, it looks like they should be 1:1 interchangeable, but there could be a minor difference that would prevent this from working...
Are there any other things that I should watch out for? Early signs of problems? Any particular model number to avoid? I'm looking at the xt 1557.
Thanks again for any insight and input.
Nothing much really, when I got my xt1557 year and half ago , this was one the thermally good octa core phones with good performance to price ratio. Right now it's a little "not newly launched" so unless you are capped by price and need to go for 2015 launched phones you can see other devices too which are newly launched as they would sustain interest for long. Of topic suggestion , but wanted to state a point.
And ya coming back to topic , I have even dropped phone multiple times from 1-1.5m height approx. never had too much major damage. The phone is quite strong and well built, and the glass too is tough enough. Overall good phone. And yes the osprey to Merlin ratio of ROMs is...M. lil more than surprising so consider that too if you want. But yeah even now all apps and all work smooth enough
Thanks Ojas,
Which rom are you running? I doubt that I would stick with stock for any length of time, but I believe that the community here is very active in bringing the latest to the phone.
As far as newer goes, I'd rather stick with a larger company, and then the price tends to climb when you factor in ip67, if you can even find it. Even then, the roms available tend to be heavily modified for bloatware/poor skinning/heavily restricted options, which brings me back to the g3 turbo.
I would love to pick up the g5, but then the price goes up again, and there's no ip67.
It seems like a silly question, but do all cases / screen protectors that fit the g3 fit the turbo as well?
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Thanks Ojas,
Which rom are you running? I doubt that I would stick with stock for any length of time, but I believe that the community here is very active in bringing the latest to the phone.
As far as newer goes, I'd rather stick with a larger company, and then the price tends to climb when you factor in ip67, if you can even find it. Even then, the roms available tend to be heavily modified for bloatware/poor skinning/heavily restricted options, which brings me back to the g3 turbo.
I would love to pick up the g5, but then the price goes up again, and there's no ip67.
It seems like a silly question, but do all cases / screen protectors that fit the g3 fit the turbo as well?
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I don't know, I don't use case myself... So kinda have very minor almost none noticable in usual vision dents around. And ya right now me on stock as the custom ROMs, right now I kinda face a WiFi download issues so decided to use stock for while for getting lil peace of mind or whatever. That issue isn't very big tho. Most of the users either don't mind or they don't face that, I don't know. But for me I do kinda get little problem as I have to keep the checking downloads again and again in case I need to resume. I think this has a little workaround by selecting the app req as not optimising battery. But anyways, android N has recently come so things are getting closer and closer towards perfection slowly. And ya about ip67 and all. It's about usage and all. One doesn't usually go dipping their phone around. But yeah being even splash proof and lil waterproof is okay as you can wash the phone (never did myself) or spray some water over it to wipe screen or cool it down I don't need to worry as it is well waterproof.only there waterproof factor comes into being for me. As for custom ROMs, most ROMs are stable and also official. And are updated frequently enough. Only little things left, tho it has come a long way, the earlier android N builds were very contrast in stability etc to the ones exist now.
Btw it doesn't kinda require screen protector. The gorrila glass is tough enough
And ya drop height, I think 1.5 m is too much time it around 1 m
It's reassuring to hear that it's a pretty tough / well built phone, and always good to hear a long term opinion rather than a review from someone who's only had the phone for a few weeks.
The ip67 is for both dust and water, something that are of a concern to me, same goes double for the screen protector, although just having the glass is very nice.
I've had some slippery phones in the past, so I don't mind carrying around a little extra protection in the way of a rubber case and screen protector. Just not sure if the cases / screen protectors for the regular moto g3 will fit the turbo models.
I guess that's also why this thread started out by asking about replacement parts/ where to buy / what fits both models / and if they're producing them or not.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Long time lurker looking for some advice.
After doing some research, I'm seriously considering purchasing a moto g Turbo.
The community here seems really active and positive, with new updates coming pretty fast and I would like to get involved with development.
The price difference between the 2015 and turbo is only about 20 euro at the moment, but the performance difference seems pretty huge, which means I'm leaning towards the turbo.
All of my previous phones have had issues with the usb port, which is no big deal to replace in general, and in this case it couldn't be easier, except I don't see a lot of replacement parts for the xt 1557 model available online. How difficult is it to get parts?
It seems like when there are parts available, it's almost always the sim card / mem card flex cable. Is this a common replacement?
With official lineage os support are we likely to see a resurgence? with the device aging as it is, are we likely to see more or fewer repair options avaible?
Can anyone offer advice or recommendations?
Have you had to replace anything? Which parts? were they pretty expensive or quite reasonable?
Thanks in advance!
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Been using this phone for over a a year now, we have 2 turbo's in my family, and another 5 turbos among relatives.
All have been functioning excellently. No problems with any device whatsoever. The xt1557 is built like a tank, and yeah the IP rating definitely helps.
As for replacement parts, they are quite cheap and easily available through moto direct service centres (atleast here in Bangalore). Not all parts from the G3 are compatible with turbo. As explained to me by the service centre guys: "The 2 models run different SoC's, hence their circuitry greatly differs. For exacmple, the USB circuitry in G3 does not support the turbo charging functionality, hence not cross compatible".
Although Lenovo has clarified that xt1557 would not be receiving any official updates, the recent "official" lineage recognition was enough for me to stick to this device for another year. The device does not feel like it has aged, the battery, camera, performance are still more than sufficient for my usage (i do not game).
Go ahead, buy it.:good:
Merlin isn't slippery it has ridges on back cover
This is what I would like to see in a Moto X 4th Generation:
Keep the dual speakers
Dimple with finger scanning
USB-C
More RAM for course
Expandable storage still available
Better battery Life
Wireless Charging
AMOLED (If the price is right)
Stock Android (No bloatware)
This wouldn't stop me from getting the phone if it had all the features above: REGULAR UPDATES!!!!!!!
In all honestly not all of us want the Moto Mods and love the Moto X. You would definitely keep my loyalty in buying your brand, as long as you listen to what your customers want. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT!
I'm afraid there wont be instant any updates like the Google Devices or even after them. More like after Samsung even because Lenovo owns it and they aren't very keen on updates. I experienced it on a Lenovo tablet and obviously on this phone.
its this lcd screen that kills batter life so just having the amoled would kill 2 birds with one stone for me
i would upgrade if looked exactly the same but with later model cpu/chipset, amoled screen and a 3500/4000 mah battery, i love all motos additions and the stock look.
I could live without wireless charging and fingerprint scanner, though both would be nice. AMOLED just makes sense for Moto display so this would be a requirement for me.
No Led! Just LCD!
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I could live without wireless charging and fingerprint scanner, though both would be nice. AMOLED just makes sense for Moto display so this would be a requirement for me.
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I got this phone specifically to get away from Led screens and was not disappointed. I have vowed to never own a phone with Led again, at least for the foreseeable future (until the technology finally comes of age).
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I got this phone specifically to get away from Led screens and was not disappointed. I have vowed to never own a phone with Led again, at least for the foreseeable future (until the technology finally comes of age).
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I'm not personally a huge fan, but I can see the benefits paired with Moto display and a true black wallpaper. I'm a minimalist, so this works for me.
No AMOLED for me. I got horrible burns with my Moto X 2014, so that's a big no-no for me.
If there is to be a 4th generation Moto X Pure Edition - would it come in 2017/2018 ?
Hope it'll be nothing like the Z . . . (add-on's)
BUT to using modern beefy guts inside the X Pure 4th GEN, allowing removable batteries with longer/better run times and so what if it's at a cost of loosing the spill/waterproof factor, that's a trade-off most can welcome to this phone model, else your packing a charger and need to be close to AC/DC support.
The X pure 3rd generation XT1575, I do like the radios bi-networks technology GSM/CDMA used and the switching of SIM's it allows for a greater feature of the most part in ones freedom to go with the best bang for the buck in a MVNO offering -Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, and have set that as one of the 1-5 spots in my top list of requirements to a phone now.
Givens to keep or improve on:
GSM/CDMA Radios
OCTA-CORE Snapdragon
Larger and Removable Battery
Same 5.7" screen size, improving bezel to screen size ratio with more than 520ppi.
Dual Stereo Speakers.
Add more RAM and ROM size 4GB/128GB - accept larger SD size 200GB up.
Rear shooter 21MP - up front shooter to at least 8MP
Frequent Updates.
Stock Android 7.0 Nougat Experience.
Not Needed if price hike or security reasons:
Amoled Screen - up's the base price over $400.00 - $450.00 range.
Wireless Charging - up's the base price over $400.00 - $450.00 range.
Fingerprint Scanner security (reasons - Wiki-Leaks of NSA News of lately). *
USB-C - up's the base price and the additional expense to extra cables/chargers. *
Dual rear shooter cameras - up's the base price over $400.00 - $450.00 range. *
[* So many brands are moving to rear dual cameras, Moto X Pure 4th GEN needs to stay with the 21MP single camera.]
* = I personally don't want to see these added to Moto X Pure Edition 4th Generation.
Living up to Motorola's past brand loyalty and to spurring future growth in Lenovo - so bring on a 4th generation Moto X Pure Edition in the 4GB Ram/128GB Rom at a Base Pricing $400.00 - $450.00 range.
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I would add one option I'd like to see offered in the Moto X Pure 4th Generation.
For people like me with fat fingertips a holstered Stylus to use.
Typing can be a strain having to backup and retype and then to hitting small menu/ect. areas of the screen just right. My S. G. Note 3 offered this and was a fantastic aid to use - not talking about the other features it included as I never used that part - just the pin point accuracy it gave the user.
ResistanceIsFutile said:
Hope it'll be nothing like the Z . . . (add-on's)
BUT to using modern beefy guts inside the X Pure 4th GEN, allowing removable batteries with longer/better run times and so what if it's at a cost of loosing the spill/waterproof factor, that's a trade-off most can welcome to this phone model, else your packing a charger and need to be close to AC/DC support.
The X pure 3rd generation XT1575, I do like the radios bi-networks technology GSM/CDMA used and the switching of SIM's it allows for a greater feature of the most part in ones freedom to go with the best bang for the buck in a MVNO offering -Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, and have set that as one of the 1-5 spots in my top list of requirements to a phone now.
Givens to keep or improve on:
GSM/CDMA Radios
OCTA-CORE Snapdragon
Larger and Removable Battery
Same 5.7" screen size, improving bezel to screen size ratio with more than 520ppi.
Dual Stereo Speakers.
Add more RAM and ROM size 4GB/128GB - accept larger SD size 200GB up.
Rear shooter 21MP - up front shooter to at least 8MP
Frequent Updates.
Stock Android 7.0 Nougat Experience.
Not Needed if price hike or security reasons:
Amoled Screen - up's the base price over $400.00 - $450.00 range.
Wireless Charging - up's the base price over $400.00 - $450.00 range.
Fingerprint Scanner security (reasons - Wiki-Leaks of NSA News of lately). *
USB-C - up's the base price and the additional expense to extra cables/chargers. *
Dual rear shooter cameras - up's the base price over $400.00 - $450.00 range. *
[* So many brands are moving to rear dual cameras, Moto X Pure 4th GEN needs to stay with the 21MP single camera.]
* = I personally don't want to see these added to Moto X Pure Edition 4th Generation.
Living up to Motorola's past brand loyalty and to spurring future growth in Lenovo - so bring on a 4th generation Moto X Pure Edition in the 4GB Ram/128GB Rom at a Base Pricing $400.00 - $450.00 range.
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I can see your points. Instead of dual cameras, I think more focus needs to be put towards a better sensor and post processing software (and the ability for stock to do RAW of course). This would net gains in photo quality.
The AMOLED technology is rapidly growing and getting better so I don't think you'll see the same problems as you did in 2014. I agree with not having the dual camera. I still think we should have an option to get a phone with wireless charging, if you want to spend extra for it. I think it's idiotic the a way phone battery holds a charge, to go back to a phone with a removable battery. All you gotta do is come up with a way to make a phone last 18- 24 hours with a heavy usage. They havr have to go with USB-C, customers want new technology but still want to feel similarities from phones that they love. Keep this but upgrade that. That's the way to build a successful phone.
arwarburg said:
The AMOLED technology is rapidly growing and getting better so I don't think you'll see the same problems as you did in 2014. I agree with not having the dual camera. I still think we should have an option to get a phone with wireless charging, if you want to spend extra for it. I think it's idiotic the a way phone battery holds a charge, to go back to a phone with a removable battery. All you gotta do is come up with a way to make a phone last 18- 24 hours with a heavy usage. They havr have to go with USB-C, customers want new technology but still want to feel similarities from phones that they love. Keep this but upgrade that. That's the way to build a successful phone.
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While AMOLED technology is improving, it is still prone to burn in. I've seen Galaxy S7s with burn in. I disagree with your statement about removable batteries though. Some individuals will use their phones more than 2 years or give it to family/friends. For a heavy users, there are a lot more charging cycles used. If they play CPU/GPU intensive games, there is also hear generated. This was a battery down much faster so having the ability to easily replace the battery can be a big deal. As far as a phone lasting 18-24 hours on heavy usage, this is a win/lose situation. It can be done but that means either getting a smaller screen and/or making the device thicker to accommodate a larger capacity battery. On that note, there is another good reason for removable batteries. On some phone models, companies like Anker have made larger capacity batteries with backplates to accommodate for those willing to sacrifice slim for long life. Even some OEMs did this. You can't do this with non removable batteries.
Honestly? I'd take a pure edition with an AMOLED display. I've never thought to myself, "damn, if only this phone had x".
About the updates though, seriously, can I get a phone for once that doesn't require a custom rom after a year to get the newest update? Moto phones are just about one step away from a nexus device, surely, it isn't hard for an entire company to push updates a bit faster.
thoughts on the Pure Edition
aybarrap1 said:
While AMOLED technology is improving, it is still prone to burn in. I've seen Galaxy S7s with burn in. I disagree with your statement about removable batteries though. Some individuals will use their phones more than 2 years or give it to family/friends. For a heavy users, there are a lot more charging cycles used. If they play CPU/GPU intensive games, there is also hear generated. This was a battery down much faster so having the ability to easily replace the battery can be a big deal. As far as a phone lasting 18-24 hours on heavy usage, this is a win/lose situation. It can be done but that means either getting a smaller screen and/or making the device thicker to accommodate a larger capacity battery. On that note, there is another good reason for removable batteries. On some phone models, companies like Anker have made larger capacity batteries with backplates to accommodate for those willing to sacrifice slim for long life. Even some OEMs did this. You can't do this with non removable batteries.
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Same here. My last couple Samsungs burned in really bad in multiple places, and that's in addition to the green tint. Technology that is so susceptible to burn-in has no place on something that's going to be displaying static graphics. It's an absolute dealbreaker for me now for any device.
daemon111 said:
About the updates though, seriously, can I get a phone for once that doesn't require a custom rom after a year to get the newest update? Moto phones are just about one step away from a nexus device, surely, it isn't hard for an entire company to push updates a bit faster.
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This is one of the few devices I've ever used that doesn't require a custom Rom. I could personally care less about "latest and greatest" though. Stability and functionality is the biggest concern for me. I know they've fallen a bit behind in the practice of rushing out updates, but the stock Rom is packed with a lot features not found in other devices, and we all remember how much of a disappointment the original Android M release turned out to be on this phone.
daemon111 said:
Honestly? I'd take a pure edition with an AMOLED display. I've never thought to myself, "damn, if only this phone had x".
About the updates though, seriously, can I get a phone for once that doesn't require a custom rom after a year to get the newest update? Moto phones are just about one step away from a nexus device, surely, it isn't hard for an entire company to push updates a bit faster.
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Considering the phone is the 2015 flagship device, Lenovo is pretty much doing what other OEMs are doing. Best devices first (Z series, g4 series) then filter backwards. My wife has the Galaxy S6 and Samsung is just now starting to push updates. The S7 was first. While I understand the phone is nearly vanilla, it is not a Google device.
daemon111 said:
Honestly? I'd take a pure edition with an AMOLED display. I've never thought to myself, "damn, if only this phone had x".
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That's usually never a thought just after a phone is released for retail, as one has narrowed the field in making an educated choice amongst all marketed competitors at it's release. Then as this -Thread is more a WISH LIST- for continuing on the Moto X Pure / Style line, leads way to "if only this phone had x,y,z" offered in a newer Moto X versions features wished by the users now and of that the manufacture would accommodate.
Bill720 said:
Same here. My last couple Samsungs burned in really bad in multiple places, and that's in addition to the green tint. Technology that is so susceptible to burn-in has no place on something that's going to be displaying static graphics. It's an absolute dealbreaker for me now for any device.
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While AMOLED technology is improving, it is still prone to burn in. I've seen Galaxy S7s with burn in.
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Would it not be a wise choice to be implemented in the Android OS if possible by a device manufacture or offer an App for that - to use the screensaver feature as was done with older computer monitors.
That in turn now being applied to the related AMOLED screens in mobiles with that action of a screensaver taking over the phones display - if there is no keystrokes or screen registered movements for a specified duration of time.
It's more of a question of "Why Not" than a statement or an answer.
I'm wondering at what time frame and/or at what point (Screen Resolution) does a burn-in or ghosting happen?
Is it more or less all the same reference points between all manufactures using AMOLED screens?
Why hasn't someone made an Screensaver App to help this from happening?
Then one last thought, do you leave the screen in an "always on state" or what's the main cause to getting this effect on an AMOLED screens?
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Seen this on the XDA front page today (PC/Browser)
[APP][7.0+]Screen off timeout quick setting
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-screen-off-timeout-quick-setting-t3452152
Might help for ROM's with Nougat for Moto X Pure's.
I'd honestly love to see a small device like the 2013 Moto X. Still my favorite phone to date.
I think we need to set up a surveymonkey poll with these options, give it a month for people to answer, submit the link to Motorola so they can see which features are most important. If enough people vote on it, they'll see whether or not there's a demand for the X to come back and what features it should have!
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I think we need to set up a surveymonkey poll with these options, give it a month for people to answer, submit the link to Motorola so they can see which features are most important. If enough people vote on it, they'll see whether or not there's a demand for the X to come back and what features it should have!
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I'll Vote !
Might be good to include the Moto X Pure / Style Community over at Lenovo on the Poll or least give a link to it over there.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X-Phones/ct-p/MotoX
or
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-X-DEVELOPER-EDITION/bd-p/273
Survey is up! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YVWZ6RQ
Moto X 4th Generation Survey
Tell me what features you would want to see!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YVWZ6RQ
I'd like to hear your thoughts on the switch. I'm particularly interested in the difference in battery life, heating up of the device, size and feel and the Wi-Fi/cellular performance.
I already know that the Pixel is way ahead of every other Android device performance wise and in terms of support which are two big reasons tempting me to switch, in addition to the criteria I mentioned above.
Any feedback would be much appreciated .
isaali said:
I'd like to hear your thoughts on the switch. I'm particularly interested in the difference in battery life, heating up of the device, size and feel and the Wi-Fi/cellular performance.
I already know that the Pixel is way ahead of every other Android device performance wise and in terms of support which are two big reasons tempting me to switch, in addition to the criteria I mentioned above.
Any feedback would be much appreciated .
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I came from a 5X, but my GF has a HTC 10 and I love the phone. It was a hard choice to make Pixel vs 10. If I already had a HTC 10 I'm not sure I would have made the jump... On top of that, she gets frequent updates for security patches. Nougat came in a timely fashion too... Only thing I would worry about, is if it gets Android O or not.
I guess to sum it up. If I had a HTC 10, I would wait for Pixel 2. Any other phone, I would go for Pixel
I've said this elsewhere, but if I could have the Pixel software (exactly as it is) in the HTC 10 body, that would be near ideal. I have both phones. I intended to keep the Pixel just as a spare because I got a stupid great deal on it, and to play with new Android versions as they come out. I keep switching back from the 10 to the Pixel, however, and am using the Pixel now. I just like how the software behaves on it better than on the 10. I don't know if part of it is that the 10 is on 7.0, not 7.1.x. I still root and use PureNexus ROM, and of course, there are still more features I'd like if I were a developer doing it myself, but overall I like the Pixel the best and really appreciate the development that has been made available for both phones. The Pixel spoils me in the software area. I've even gotten used to the back fingerprint reader in most cases, although I'd rather have either both front and back or just front.
Personally, I regret getting the 10 at all, considering I paid more than twice for the 10s than I did for the Pixel - I bought two in November for my wife and I at the best price direct from HTC they have had so far, but the very next day became aware of the crazy great price on the Pixel.
isaali said:
I'd like to hear your thoughts on the switch. I'm particularly interested in the difference in battery life, heating up of the device, size and feel and the Wi-Fi/cellular performance.
I already know that the Pixel is way ahead of every other Android device performance wise and in terms of support which are two big reasons tempting me to switch, in addition to the criteria I mentioned above.
Any feedback would be much appreciated .
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I bought Pixel and didn't want to keep my HTC 10 and just decided to sell it. There are few differences:
1) WiFi - if connected to 2.4 GHz performs better on Pixel than on HTC 10, but on 5.0 GHz networks didn't see any difference.
2) Bluetooth on Pixel goes way farther than it did on 3 HTC 10 phones that I have tested/used.
3) Battery life for me was fine on both devices.
4) No heating issues except a little when using Quick Charge 2 or 3 adapter to charge the phone.
5) The best for me is the in-hand feel of the device and HTC 10 was sitting much better in my hand as I felt that the curved back on it touches my palm and I could easily use it without the case. Pixel's back is straight/flat - I don't like that.
6) The size is good HTC 10 5.2 inch vs Pixel's 5 inch, not much difference and not really noticeable.
I came from a HTC10 and I prefer the Pixel. Mainly because I love stock Android and the regular updates.
Here's a quick list:
Bigger battery life ; At the end of the day, i have 20-40% battery left on my Pixel whereas my HTC10 would be at 10%...
Less heating on the Pixel than the HTC10
Didn't notice any difference regarding connectivity. Both devices are very good at handling 4G and Wifi N.
Both phones have a very similar size.