Hi guys. Here's a simple question that'll decide whether I'm going for the R7 Plus, soon to be available in Europe or not. As you may know, on Nexus devices, relocking the bootloader results in a "Locked" bootloader state. That's it. No counters, no system states, no Knox sutff or whatever. Also, it won't show "relocked" as it does on HTC and Sony devices. Just "locked". Is that also the case on the R7 Plus? Will it show "relocked" or "locked" and do Oppo devices have some sort of a counter or a flag that'll be irreversibly triggered once the bootloader is unlocked?
The OPPO phones dont loose warranty because of flashed rom. Same like OnePlus btw. You can flash whatever you like. Unlocking bootloader is fine of course, you could not flash other rom without it.
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I am completely clueless of what bootloader is and after some googling, I think that it's the locking of a phone's network to a specific company like verizon, at&t etc. But, here in India, we don't have such contracts, so do I need to unlock bootloader before rooting my phone? I previously had galaxy ace and there was no mention of bootloader even when I installed all sorts of custom roms.
nitish159 said:
I am completely clueless of what bootloader is and after some googling, I think that it's the locking of a phone's network to a specific company like verizon, at&t etc. But, here in India, we don't have such contracts, so do I need to unlock bootloader before rooting my phone? I previously had galaxy ace and there was no mention of bootloader even when I installed all sorts of custom roms.
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you just won't get root if your bootloader is locked
Unlock it for root, CWM, ROMs , etc
No, a bootloader doesn't do what you assumed, it just restricts your devices from any alteration by giving you limited access. Region locked or carrier lock is a different thing.
Thanks all, one more thing, if I unlock bootloader then can I get my warranty back?
nitish159 said:
Thanks all, one more thing, if I unlock bootloader then can I get my warranty back?
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NO, you won't. When you apply for the code on Motorola site you lose your warranty. Even if you somehow manage to trick them, Moto G will still show status code as 2 (meaning relocked) instead of 1 (locked) or 3 (unlocked). Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Just got the D6633 dual Sim for my wife. I use Nexus devices exclusively but since Sony offers bootloader unlocking I decided to get this phone instead of a Nexus for her.
My question is, should I go through the steps to actually get the bootloader unlock code for future use. I don't plan on unlocking the bootloader just yet but I worry that in the future the service might be discontinued and I'll never get a code from Sony.
It's still under warranty and I'd like to keep it that way so I guess the real question is, is getting the code what voids the warranty or actually preforming the unlock that does it? Is there a counter or some type of a flag in the device that is set permanently or can the bootloader be locked back again like any Nexus device?
Thanks for your help.
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
TheTeslaCoil said:
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
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OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
obsanity said:
OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
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You trigger something on their servers, it's all about the IMEI and Serial Number.
Even if you relock the bootloader, they will still know it was unlocked, I for example relocked the bootloader the official way, via SONY website, and got the code in my email.
Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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True, it is a good idea to backup the TA partion, I myself didn't do it, but it is a good advice.
OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
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Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
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So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
obsanity said:
So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
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If you restore your TA partition, yeah, you can claim warranty.
Hey everyone,
I got my new Honor 8 and as with my previous OnePlus One I just need root.
It's not that complicated to find descriptions how to unlock the bootloader (and loose the warranty), relock it and even get the "locked" status again without (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70177996&postcount=7) and with DC Unlocker (https://www.dc-unlocker.com/how-to-lock-bootloader-from-relocked-to-locked) in case I understood everything right.
But the important qustion of course is if one (for example Huawei) can see that its relocked. So first, what does it say if you get the status over the command prompt? And even if it's "locked" there is there any other way you can see?
I don't expect a warranted answer but maybe someone who is firm with android coding or what ever can at least say what he thinks?
Thanks a lot!
If you relock it with a fastboot command then yeah. But if you use a rollback package to return to emui 4.1, everything gets wiped in a way that makes the bootloader status "locked"
Could please someone at least check the first question with his unlocked phone?
Edit: Didn't see your reply and don't now how to delete mine... Thanks anyway!
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If you relock it with a fastboot command then yeah. But if you use a rollback package to return to emui 4.1, everything gets wiped in a way that makes the bootloader status "locked"
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That means after unlocking bootloader and relock bootloader with these steps, i have back my warranty?
Sorry for my bad english..
Silencer3007 said:
That means after unlocking bootloader and relock bootloader with these steps, i have back my warranty?
Sorry for my bad english..
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As far as i know yeah, unless there is some secret way for them to know it. If you unlock the bootloader with a code and then lock it again it will show the bootloader status as "relocked" in fastboot mode, indicating that the device was tampered with in the past. But the "locked" status you get in the rollback process is the same as on a phone that was never modified. I found this "trick" accidentally when restoring a bricked phone using the rollback package and think it's pretty handy.
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As far as i know yeah, unless there is some secret way for them to know it. If you unlock the bootloader with a code and then lock it again it will show the bootloader status as "relocked" in fastboot mode, indicating that the device was tampered with in the past. But the "locked" status you get in the rollback process is the same as on a phone that was never modified. I found this "trick" accidentally when restoring a bricked phone using the rollback package and think it's pretty handy.
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Not sure if u'll read this. When I was stuck in the same issue somewhere around July 2017 I was devastated and thought if I were to relock my bootloader how to do so without it saying relocked (If you do it by fastboot it will 100% say so). I tried the rollback method on seeing this and u sure r right. It says LOCKED and looks as though my phone was never tampered with ?.
I came across this thread researching abt something and though I'd thank you!
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Hello!
Is there any way to root my device without unlocking the bootloader, and would that be a higher risk for my device?
fabulierer said:
Hello!
Is there any way to root my device without unlocking the bootloader, and would that be a higher risk for my device?
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It is possible but you won't be able to flash custom recovery or a custom rom or kernel, unlocked bootloader plus root will make possible to modify system partition, I am still a learner of android modifications so please read the following, hope this helps, cheers.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-main-differences-between-rooting-and-unlocking-a-bootloader
There is a higher chance that you might brick your OnePlus 6 if you don't unlock the bootloader. Once the bootloader is unlocked and you have the OEM unlocking option enabled you would be able to save your phone in case something goes wrong
i wudnt recommend. as it has high chance of hard bricking ur device!!
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There is a higher chance that you might brick your OnePlus 6 if you don't unlock the bootloader. Once the bootloader is unlocked and you have the OEM unlocking option enabled you would be able to save your phone in case something goes wrong
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There's a higher probability of bricking the device with a unlocked bootloader I have soft and hard bricked many phones with an unlocked bootloader including my oneplus 6, a phone with a locked bootloader won't flash any files so it will be less of a chance, our friend here is not asking about the phone getting bricked or not he's asking something else, I think we all should gain some knowledge which proves fruitful in the long run, cheers.
Is there any way to change the bootloader status of Android One's Bootloader from Relocked(U) to Locked?
I need to repair my phone, but I'm afraid of voiding my insurance.
Search on google, idk if it is possible, i think it is, but i didn't did that
there is no possibility to change that.