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HTC made a statement that people want thin smartphones more than large batteries. Imo battery-life is much more important than the thickness of a smartphone.
What do you guys think?
wayne850 said:
http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/htc-thinks-we-want-thin-phones-not-big-batteries-is-it-right
HTC made a statement that people want thin smartphones more than large batteries. Imo battery-life is much more important than the thickness of a smartphone.
What do you guys think?
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double phone size and walk around with 3000-4000 mAh battery! **** yea!
For me too. I would prefer a longer battery life.
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motorola made a good step with the razr maxx. it's just about 2mm thicker and its battery is almost twice as large as the original razr (1780 ->3300mah)
I'd gladly trade a couple of mm and 10-15-20 grams weight to have a ~2500mAh battery in my One S!
Well, I think from what HTC had learned from customers, it could be a valid statement to say thin phones are better than large batteries from the sales point of view. The reason is simple, we want a phone which looks great even if the battery is not that ideal. Because when we take our phone out, it is the appearance which attracts us and others not the numbers presenting the battery capability, visual impression always stronger than spec sheet.
Just look at the MAO defect thread here, see how many people still stick with the black version even if there are well known problem/risk and they have to send the phone back several times to try their luck. (If I were that in love with black version, I would do the same) Does battery capacity annoy them? Compared to the MAO thing, not at all!!
So, I back HTC's statement only from the sales point of view. Of course a phone with both the same thinness and larger battery is better, but given the current technology constraints, you have to compromise one to another right? And I would happily go for thinness rather than 3000mAh.
Cheers!
h.han said:
Well, I think from what HTC had learned from customers, it could be a valid statement to say thin phones are better than large batteries from the sales point of view. The reason is simple, we want a phone which looks great even if the battery is not that ideal. Because when we take our phone out, it is the appearance which attracts us and others not the numbers presenting the battery capability, visual impression always stronger than spec sheet.
Just look at the MAO defect thread here, see how many people still stick with the black version even if there are well known problem/risk and they have to send the phone back several times to try their luck. (If I were that in love with black version, I would do the same) Does battery capacity annoy them? Compared to the MAO thing, not at all!!
So, I back HTC's statement only from the sales point of view. Of course a phone with both the same thinness and larger battery is better, but given the current technology constraints, you have to compromise one to another right? And I would happily go for thinness rather than 3000mAh.
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I got black because gray is slippery, Im clumsy already, dont need another affect helping to drop phone
well the One S is incredibly slim AND has great battery life...
So I say, Why not have both ???
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well the One S is incredibly slim AND has great battery life...
So I say, Why not have both ???
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It all depends on what u call "great battery life". I call "great battery life" when I have to charge my phone once a week. (happend to tattoo with larget battery).
S2 I call extremly bad battery, One S I call not that bad battery
1 week ?? holy ****...
the last phone i had that lasted a week was a nokia..
those old nokia will outlive us all
1 week is probably a little to enthusiastic, but 3 days would be ideally. Imagine that you are on a little trip in the woods with no access to electricity
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1 week is probably a little to enthusiastic, but 3 days would be ideally. Imagine that you are on a little trip in the woods with no access to electricity
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Thats just what ppl want from phones At same time I understand it wont happen useless the technology changes to some super uber low power consume
All I need is my 14-16 hours of use. and thats pretty much what i get on most phones. i hate big batteries and oversized covers
I would rather have a thiner phone.
It's all about managing battery life.
I'd rather have a thin phone because that will impress my buddies.
They aren't going to know that I have 30 hours of battery life if it was a thick phone anyway. And even if they do, they probably won't jizz their pants.
wilcoholic said:
I'd rather have a thin phone because that will impress my buddies.
They aren't going to know that I have 30 hours of battery life if it was a thick phone anyway. And even if they do, they probably won't jizz their pants.
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So ur the person whos gonna buy Hummer, and stick in muds while "Smart" goes simply true there
Cmon, you really buy things just because they look good, or you need the oportunities it give? At this point - the possibility to use phone at all (no battery no phone).
Well, it seems we can have both. I would prefer a larger battery but if my One S gets the kind of battery life we've seen so far I will stop caring about how big the battery is. And like Adjust said, its all about battery management.
Thinner device of course!!
Around 8mm is the ideal size. As long as a battery lasts 12 hours throughout the day I'm fine with it.
It's all about having a sleek device that is eye catching and brilliant at the same time. Battery can be conserved through options, build design can not.
Why is everyone racing for a thin smatphone, I hope HTC reads all these comments because the majority of us would rather have a longer lasting battery
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Moto hits the point for both tastes so come on htc, start offering a thicker one s with more battery life/exchangeable battery (and maybe sd card slot?!).
So only the best for both worlds...
Hi guys,
So I did some testing on batteries for the S3 and it seemed to get positive feedback from fellow XDA members. I was wondering how many people would be interested in the testings for the S4. I buy most of the batteries myself (which costs a lot of money and I am not asking for donations). I just want to help as many S4 owners on buying the right battery. If you would like me to do similar tests please reply in this thread. If it gets enough replies I'll begin buying the batteries asap and start posting results one by one in a new thread(hopefully it'll get stickied).
Thanks in advance
Edit: link to my S3 battery tests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843896
The S4 tests will be similar in fashion.
That would be great.. Hope you the best
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rlatjs17 said:
Hi guys,
So I did some testing on batteries for the S3 and it seemed to get positive feedback from fellow XDA members. I was wondering how many people would be interested in the testings for the S4. I buy most of the batteries myself (which costs a lot of money and I am not asking for donations). I just want to help as many S4 owners on buying the right battery. If you would like me to do similar tests please reply in this thread. If it gets enough replies I'll begin buying the batteries asap and start posting results one by one in a new thread(hopefully it'll get stickied).
Thanks in advance
Edit: link to my S3 battery tests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843896
The S4 tests will be similar in fashion.
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But there are already many threads about people testing batteries, what would make yours any different than the others that are already on here?
I'd definitely appreciate it, your thread back in the S3 days helped me out. :thumbup:
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It would be great if there was just one place where you could find all the stats. There are so many batteries out there. And sure people write reviews about them already. But all those tests where under different circumstances and not at all comparable.
So yes I would really like it when there was just one thread that ruled them all...
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PS: Please make a standard test routine.
For example, 3 hours of pure standby time, 1 hour of heavy gaming, 1 hour watching video, and some other stuff.
Also be sure to calibrate your battery right and let it settle for a day before every test. And last but not least, keep everything the same, no switching ROM, no switching kernel, network mode and Wifi both on. Be consistent...
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Tester
I am willing to test anything. I have been a tester for a few prototype cases (some sucked Ballz) LOL. But, I love aftermarket batteries and would be able to give it a fair shake!
Would love to help out
Count me in for testing. New S4 owner, but experienced geek.
rlatjs17 said:
Hi guys,
So I did some testing on batteries for the S3 and it seemed to get positive feedback from fellow XDA members. I was wondering how many people would be interested in the testings for the S4. I buy most of the batteries myself (which costs a lot of money and I am not asking for donations). I just want to help as many S4 owners on buying the right battery. If you would like me to do similar tests please reply in this thread. If it gets enough replies I'll begin buying the batteries asap and start posting results one by one in a new thread(hopefully it'll get stickied).
Thanks in advance
Edit: link to my S3 battery tests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843896
The S4 tests will be similar in fashion.
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I think it would be great if it's not too much trouble to go through. Having a guide to ascertain the best battery for my needs would be very helpful.
I actually wish there were a lightweight, smaller capacity battery for everyday use, since I'm rarely in a situation where I don't have charging access. I haven't put them on a scale, but in the hand the battery weighs almost as much as the whole phone! A battery with roughly half the capacity would probably knock half an ounce or so off the overall weight. Probably wishful thinking on my part.
hella356 said:
I think it would be great if it's not too much trouble to go through. Having a guide to ascertain the best battery for my needs would be very helpful.
I actually wish there were a lightweight, smaller capacity battery for everyday use, since I'm rarely in a situation where I don't have charging access. I haven't put them on a scale, but in the hand the battery weighs almost as much as the whole phone! A battery with roughly half the capacity would probably knock half an ounce or so off the overall weight. Probably wishful thinking on my part.
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Lol I hate how light this phone is without a case I feel like I'm going to snap it in half.
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joshm.1219 said:
Lol I hate how light this phone is without a case I feel like I'm going to snap it in half.
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Hehe. Different strokes for different folks! The relatively light weight of the S4 was a key selling point to me, and also a reason I don't use a case. But for people like you, you can always add a case, bigger capacity battery, etc., but there's really no way to make it lighter. Maybe a helium tank!
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Hehe. Different strokes for different folks! The relatively light weight of the S4 was a key selling point to me, and also a reason I don't use a case. But for people like you, you can always add a case, bigger capacity battery, etc., but there's really no way to make it lighter. Maybe a helium tank!
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Yeah lol people have said their S3 battery works for the s4 although I'm not sure how much a few hundred mah really makes a difference in wait. If you're really serious you take the back cover off and use a piece of electrical tape to hold the battery in.
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joshm.1219 said:
Yeah lol people have said their S3 battery works for the s4 although I'm not sure how much a few hundred mah really makes a difference in wait. If you're really serious you take the back cover off and use a piece of electrical tape to hold the battery in.
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Lol that would be so ghetto-rigged
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Lol that would be so ghetto-rigged
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Lol exactly what I was thinking but I did this on my old G2X when the tabs on my back cover bent/broke. If you have it in a case you'll never notice.
I've just recently purchased Hyperion's 5200mAh battery from Amazon. It will arrive within the next week or so. I can do some extensive testing on that and report my results if anyone would like.
I thought I read somewhere that a Nexus battery would be an upgrade and a same fit? Is this true or are there any other OEM batteries that fit for more capacity? I know there are a couple aftermarket batteries that dont require a back cover but are kind of unreliable from what I'm reading. I remember having the htc sensation and upgrading it to the evo 3d battery, same fit but like 500 more mah.
This would be great, keep up the good work!
I'd like to see a test/review. Been thinking about buying one of the 7600 options that comes with a case.
Should I try slim extended battery on my new Galaxy S5 G900T? My friend who owns one for his Note 3 from MPJ said it has a bit more power but still fit the original back. How do they get more power in the same size? I don’t expect it is 4300mAh, but at least last 2-3 hrs longer. Maybe I should try it out myself…
ishnum said:
Should I try slim extended battery on my new Galaxy S5 G900T? My friend who owns one for his Note 3 from MPJ said it has a bit more power but still fit the original back. How do they get more power in the same size? I don’t expect it is 4300mAh, but at least last 2-3 hrs longer. Maybe I should try it out myself…
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This shouldn't be a difficult question to reason out for yourself. Do you really think if it was possible to cram 4300mAh into a battery of the same size, Samsung, one of the world's leading tech companies, would be total retards and use a battery with 30% less juice in their flagship phone? use your brain ffs!
Zamboney said:
This shouldn't be a difficult question to reason out for yourself. Do you really think if it was possible to cram 4300mAh into a battery of the same size, Samsung, one of the world's leading tech companies, would be total retards and use a battery with 30% less juice in their flagship phone? use your brain ffs!
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and your a likeable guy huh?........... Your so smart your must be an Aerospace Engineer... he was asking a basic question... and BTW..YES... The 3200mAh battery on Ebay lasts longer..So Samsung could have done better but..... They don't make it max capacity in hopes that people will buy extra batteries from them. Be nice and not mean to people asking basic questions.. your a senior member so please act like it.
Martinjv71 said:
and your a likeable guy huh?........... Your so smart your must be an Aerospace Engineer... he was asking a basic question... and BTW..YES... The 3200mAh battery on Ebay lasts longer..So Samsung could have done better but..... They don't make it max capacity in hopes that people will buy extra batteries from them. Be nice and not mean to people asking basic questions.. your a senior member so please act like it.
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I agree :good: :good: :good:
Zamboney said:
This shouldn't be a difficult question to reason out for yourself. Do you really think if it was possible to cram 4300mAh into a battery of the same size, Samsung, one of the world's leading tech companies, would be total retards and use a battery with 30% less juice in their flagship phone? use your brain ffs!
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Actually its more than 50% more capacity, I have no clue where you got 30 from, use your brain ffs!
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Martinjv71 said:
and your a likeable guy huh?........... Your so smart your must be an Aerospace Engineer... he was asking a basic question... and BTW..YES... The 3200mAh battery on Ebay lasts longer..So Samsung could have done better but..... They don't make it max capacity in hopes that people will buy extra batteries from them. Be nice and not mean to people asking basic questions.. your a senior member so please act like it.
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That's wrong as well, not making it higher capacity is hardly going to make people go and buy more batteries from them is it, its going to make people go buy more batteries based on the false advertising from the likes of MPJ. And while I am on the object, I would love to know how the hell they get away with claiming the mAh that they claim on these things because it's plainly obvious without even going near one of the batteries that it isn't possible.
What WOULD make people go buy more Samsung batteries is if they had a 'premium' higher capacity version and sold it for a higher price. People would fall over themselves to buy it and Samsung would make a killing. Since they have never done this, I suspect it's highly likely that although it may be possible to squeeze a bit more out of the same size, the methods in doing so mean the battery is less stable, less reliable, and doesn't work for as long, as seen in all the batteries like this from Anker to MPJ.
Now what WOULD be interesting is a battery that is physically larger and takes up the space used by the water proofing. So you lose the waterproofing but gain a big chunk of battery power, now that I think IS possible, it just needs someone with the foresight to produce it. There are many people, myself included, who aren't the slightest bit interested in the waterproofing because we don't plan on dropping it down the toilet or into the bath every 5 minutes so would gladly sacrifice this for a nice bump in battery life.
I always buy extra batteries for my phones. Note 1, Note 2, S4, and now the S5.
I have yet to see a battery that was the same size as OEM and had higher capacity. Anker had one that I tried that had I think 100ma higher capacity, but when I placed the battery in my phone it was a tighter fit. So really in my books it was a bigger battery.
I am not saying its not possible to get higher capacity than OEM in a slim battery, but I have not come across a slim battery that met lofty claims yet. For this reason, I now tend to stick to an OEM battery as I can trust that it will operate in a predictable manner. Add in the waterproofing seal on the current S5, I would try my best to stick with a battery that maintains OEM dimensions.
Sorry for the thread necromancy!
I know this is blatant thread necromancy but the viewpoints left here are skewed at best.
I am what you would call a vaper. I work for a company that thrives on making and selling electronic cigarette juice. i also get to see how LI-ION Cells have evolved as LI-ION and LIPO cells are choice for our devices albeit more commonly in a tube cell form.
I have seen both 18650 and 26650 cell specs explode over the last year and to discount innovation and advancement in favor of an ideal that it will always be the same is rather preposterous. It all depends upon what is crammed into the housing. I have seen 2Ah 26650 cells with a 30a load rating and 6 months later here comes a 4.2Ah cell sporting 40a continuous with 60a 7 second pulse rating. I got to torture test these new cells as a daily vape as well as the old. The new cells were clearly head and shoulders above the old. Lipos are the same way. I have a cell pack in a 2s1p config that sports 4.2ah with a 65c/130c+ rating.
i'll spell the lipo bit out. A c rating in the lipo world can be used to find your ah rating. 65*4.2=273 continuous run amp load.
130*4.2=546 max pulse amp load.
the 2s1p stands for 1 pack of 2 cells wired in series for a nominal voltage of 7.4 (8.4 when fully charged.)
The point is the size of this pack is very small and packs a wallop compared to other lipo packs that have the same ratings but are larger in physical size. My pack however is top of the line from one of the most well known and reputable cell pack makers. The others are knock offs.
To cut it short perhaps the OEM LI-ION packs in our phones are the same way. Perhaps the OEM packs are of knock off make and the 4200mah packs that have been found are more efficient and of better quality. With the way phones are phasing out expandable storage in favor of "data hogging" cloud storage (which mind you opens you to risk of EXPENSIVE data overages) i would't be surprised to see our precious little phone companies like samsung and LG and others using cut corner tactics. Until i see actual usage and testing with results on a graph, i wouldn't pass judgement. You might just get your mind blown like i do just about every other day.
Technology is an ever evolving creature and it's simply FASCINATING to sit back and watch it all take new form and make our lives better.
again i apologize for the thread necromancy but there were key pieces of information missing with a mindset of bash the newcomer. For the price i'm game to try it for sure!
If i have offended anyone i apologize in advance and assure you that in no way am i out to cause any drama or hurt feelings.
As a matter of fact i'm off to study these mpj packs to see how people feel. Just might find myself a graph full of information as well!
Cheers!
Hey guys,
I am about to upgrade my phone from an s3 and am having to choose between the m8, z2 and g3.
I want a phone that will give me a long lasting experience (won't start lagging in a 6 months), good battery life (6-7 hours screen time on one charge, if possible), decent camera, and good audio through headphones. I don't mind putting on a battery case in the future if I need to but would rather avoid it.
To me the m8 is the most attractive phone out of the bunch but its specs are a little behind, relatively. Also, I am not so sure about its battery life and, due to its shape, a battery case would make it less attractive than a z2 with battery case. The biggest plus for the m8 is the feeling that the phone will continue to perform optimally for a good while after the purchase date. Should I go with my gut feeling?
The z2 is a powerhouse of specs. However, the user reviews just don't seem to be on par with the m8. I have read issues with lag and heating. On paper, it seems like an easy pick. Is the reality different?
The g3 is blowing people away but I have read that the screen is a battery drainer. That is still bearable but the occurrence of heating issues is the scary part. I am afraid of getting a phone that is amazing for the first month or two but can't last. Is the praise simply hype that will die out soon or is it a sturdy phone?
What do you guys suggest?
Please no fanboy wars. Just your objective suggestions would be much appreciated. I plan to make the decision by tomorrow.
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Zaslam408 said:
Hey guys,
I am about to upgrade my phone from an s3 and am having to choose between the m8, z2 and g3.
I want a phone that will give me a long lasting experience (won't start lagging in a 6 months), good battery life (6-7 hours screen time on one charge, if possible), decent camera, and good audio through headphones. I don't mind putting on a battery case in the future if I need to but would rather avoid it.
To me the m8 is the most attractive phone out of the bunch but its specs are a little behind, relatively. Also, I am not so sure about its battery life and, due to its shape, a battery case would make it less attractive than a z2 with battery case. The biggest plus for the m8 is the feeling that the phone will continue to perform optimally for a good while after the purchase date. Should I go with my gut feeling?
The z2 is a powerhouse of specs. However, the user reviews just don't seem to be on par with the m8. I have read issues with lag and heating. On paper, it seems like an easy pick. Is the reality different?
The g3 is blowing people away but I have read that the screen is a battery drainer. That is still bearable but the occurrence of heating issues is the scary part. I am afraid of getting a phone that is amazing for the first month or two but can't last. Is the praise simply hype that will die out soon or is it a sturdy phone?
What do you guys suggest?
Please no fanboy wars. Just your objective suggestions would be much appreciated. I plan to make the decision by tomorrow.
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It seems like the z2 & g3 would be your go-to's here. If the only issue with the g3 for you is possible battery drain, it seems like the best bet. Besides, you can just adjust the brightness as you see fit.
There are already threads for this sort of question, I'm sure @Naddict can point you in the right direction.
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There are 3 threads already established that are devoted to discussions about devices, please read, and if necessary, repost your question in one of these threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
There are also several other discussion threads that you probably should review to help you. They are What phone do you wish you had? or
The Worst Android Device That You've Ever Had & Why or even this place that talks about The best phone you ever owned.
Hi All,
I own an S10 that I have been using for the last three years.
This year I thought I will go out and get another Samsung phone, or something else (no iPhone).
I realized that all the phones are just getting crazy expensive and only have improved cameras and batteries essentially.
While the battery is important for me, the camera is something I am not that concerned about.
The only phone which was interesting was the flip Z3. After a little review, it seems like that it has terrible battery life.
Question for people with any newer phone, do you see any reason for newer phones unless you wanna a better camera?
Thanks
Victor