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Hi everyone,
Thought I would start a thread about what things people are using with their S4s.
A few findings of mine from today:
The Smart Dock works with the S4.
The S3/Note 2 MHL adapters definitely work
The S4 MHL 2.0 adapter works without needing a charging input plugged in and IS outputting at 60Hz
USB audio working, although some DACs not working that did work with S3/Note 2 (Apex Glacier not working for me, my HeadAmp Pico and RSA Intruder are)
USB keyboards/mice working with the S4, as they did with the older Samsungs
PS3 controller working over USB OTG (although mapping seems odd, have to try it in an emulator)
Ditto for the Xbox 360 for Microsoft controller (which required an app on older Samsungs in order to work)
Interesting, tried my Logitech F310 controller with it and it works too (it does not work with any other Android handset without USB/BT Joystick Centre, but here works OOTB). The F710 probably works too in that case.
BT keyboard and mouse working, as expected.
IR blaster via the inbuilt app works great with my LG TV.
Logitech F710 works too.
MHL and USB OTG do not work together using the new MHL 2.0 adapter for the S4.
NTFS formatted drives still don't work on stock ROMs. Shame since my Padfone Infinity has it OOTB.
Moga Pro gamepad working well
Tried an ethernet adapter yesterday evening: no-go. Need to check its documentation again because I suspect it requires driver installation. Have order a couple of driverless ethernet adapters that are confirmed to work with several Android tablets and will give them a go when they arrive.
Additional info on ethernet: can pretty much definitively say ethernet is not working I think. Tried today with a new adapter (that works perfectly on the Padfone Infinity in phone and pad modes, since I tried that first), does not work with S4 with or without an externally powered USB hub.
Will chime in with more when I have a chance to try more stuff out.
On the s4 MHL adapter: I find it amazing that the hdmi can carry plenty of juice to keep the s4 and the MHL adapter topped up on power. The knock off on sale at amazon still says to use external power.
Have you tried miracast yet?
BT Keyboard/mouse?
Hi, could someone please tell me if the Galaxy S4 and the new MHL 2.0 adapter allow HDMI and USB OTG at the same time using the micro usb port on the MHL 2.0 adapter? Very keen to know! Cheers!
testinguser said:
On the s4 MHL adapter: I find it amazing that the hdmi can carry plenty of juice to keep the s4 and the MHL adapter topped up on power. The knock off on sale at amazon still says to use external power.
Have you tried miracast yet?
BT Keyboard/mouse?
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First post updated, BT keyboard and mouse working as expected.
Not tried miracast yet.
IR blaster works a treat with my LG TV.
Definitely works without power with the S4, although it doesn't charge the phone at all used like that (unless of course you have an MHL-capable TV, I don't).
Hi NZtechfreak if you could test the MHL 2.0 adapter and USB OTG at the same time that would be great
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Hi NZtechfreak if you could test the MHL 2.0 adapter and USB OTG at the same time that would be great
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As noted above, doesn't work. Only way to do that simultaneously is still the Smart Dock.
I have a couple of questions.
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter?
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better?
3) Any slowdowns or delays, while mirroring the display?
Thanks in advance.
maxnik1 said:
I have a couple of questions.
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter?
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better?
3) Any slowdowns or delays, while mirroring the display?
Thanks in advance.
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I need to spend more time with it to answer those, will definitely update soon.
Regarding slowdowns - found it pretty smooth, which was a relief because the Xperia Z lagged horribly over MHL.
UPDATE:
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter? Only the MHL 2.0 adapter can do 60Hz.
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better? Yes, compared them directly today, found scrolling webpages and so forth noticeably smoother on MHL 2.0.
Used a Moga Pro controller with my S4 to play some GTA while mirroring over MHL 2.0, nice! Still playing around with the Moga, but enjoying so far.
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MHL and USB OTG do not work together using the new MHL 2.0 adapter for the S4.
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[edit]Disappointing to hear =(
I've gotten a lot of use out of this OTG microSD adapter. The native "My Files" app on the S4 instantly recognizes it as USB storage.
http://dx.com/p/c310-otg-tf-card-re...er-for-samsung-i9100-i9300-i9220-n7100-174106
My FiiO E17, works perfectly with the OTG and S4 . sadly my DACMini and DACPort doesn't work
S3 didn't work for the E17 .
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Yeah, only way is to use the Smart Dock.
Could somebody please test if a USB to Ethernet adapter works via OTG cable?
Cheers
man im confussed a lil, i never used the mhl adapter with my s3,but today i bought a mhl to hdmi adaptor i have a samsung 3d tv its from 2011 i think,anyway the brand is pipeline says worsk with samsung supports upto 1080p uncompressed hd video and 7.1 surround, i tried frist without the power plugged into it,wouldnt recognize even a input on the tv, plugged power in it saw an input i could select it on the tv but said check the power source or cable,is there something else i need to enable on the phone to work?or do i need to have a SAMSUNG adaptor?
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Actualy I just found out samsung uses 11 pin configuration so u need a samsung adapter
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
Has anyone tried the adapter from monoprice yet?
i just returned the pipeline mhl to hdmi adapter and got the samsung one from best buy works perfect, 11 pins is a must
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Has anyone tried the adapter from monoprice yet?
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does it have 11 pins?
just to add something ive used,i have the moga game controller that connects bluetooth works perfect,and last night i messed around with the mhl to hdmi adapter and had it hooked up to the tv and was playing games on the tv using the moga controller ran so so smooth felt like i was playing an xbox, i do have a question if anyone can answer about the mhl i have a yamaha surround sound,usually i use a fiber connetion from what ever device tv, cable,blue ray, whatever, so the reciever u can send hdmi threw it so u can take the device into the reciver and then theres and out to the tv to get the picture witch worked with the phone,but i couldn't get and audio to come out of my surround sound it came out of the tv but i want the surround to work,whats my best option any help would be appreciated
Imagine my surprise when I connected mine to my MS Surface pro. It was immediately recognized, nothing to install and I was able to browse contents of both internal storage and my microSD card!
Whats a recommended OTG cable to get ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
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Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
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Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
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I asked the seller if it was compatible with the S5 and he said no
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Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
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did you get a replacement? does it work with hdmi and usb host at the same time?
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
...which one
Purplys said:
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
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Which one are you referring to?
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Which one are you referring to?
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the one OP says:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
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I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
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Unfortunately I don't think so, I used this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lindy-73391-...6?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item462bc81bb0
with a s4, and it worked prperly, but when connected to s5 it doesn't even turns on. I think it is because s5 doesn't have a docking mode, in fact if you go in Settings-->accessories, there is only an option for sound on hdmi, while in s4 there were more (and one was for the docking mode)
I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
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I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
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This is a good solution, but I'm wondering why, since 11 pin connectors usually can handle hdmi and usb otg on the same time, why old dock stations for 11 pin device don't work?
using micro 3.0 for MHL and OTG
i have a SM-G900P and if i make a OTG and MLH cable through usb 3.0 do you think i could charge and use HDMI and 2 usb for keyboard and mouse. My goal is to make my phone like a mini computer on the go for my roms and movies
Possibly use the USB 3.0 Micro-b connection?
All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
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All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
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I'm having an issue with MHL adapter on my S5, When I connect my MHL adapter to my S5, the audio on my TV seems delayed, but when I tried it on my S3, the audio is perfectly fine. Is this something to do with S5 having 5 pin only wherein S3 having 11pin?
I saw a 5 pin to 11 pin converter on Amazon, will this solve this issue? And possibly the issue of not being able to use MHL/HDMI and USB at the same time?
buy chrome cast you can screen mirror or use almost any app directly to the tv when it comes to videos and such theres a little allshare
button at the top of like the video player, you tube etc.
also a smart tv does the same thing only better (all the above scenarios will only work with a connected network)
what is wrong with the image quality?
Chromecast works for me at home or anywhere it has standard wifi, but is too painful in most hotels that use a web user login. Without net access it was almost useless last time I tried. I could pair with it, but it wouldn't stream local files from my device. Most places I've stayed in the last few years have an active HDMI port on their tv, so the MHL HDMI and OTG with USB wireless mouse on an S3 worked for me, even though I couldn't charge at the same time. Haven't been able to make that work so far with anything I've tried on the S5.
Still no luck with S5 docking (MHL+OTG)
Hello!
I've been using this adapter for a while with a Samsung Galaxy S4:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MHL-...or-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note/32461052976.html
Charging, HDMI connection and USB keyboard + mouse works very nice.
Unfortunately no luck with S5. Not even charging works. I read S5 doesn't use 11-pin USB (because of the USB 3.0 plug, etc...). If that's true, then not even installing a custom ROM would make the docking work.
According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57336973&postcount=4, "the G800F is capable of USB OTG. It simply is not enabled in the stock firmware." I know this is about a S5 Mini, but wouldn't it be the same for the S5?
So I recently got a MHL/OTG adapter off of ebay. The HDMI out and usb ports seem to work no problem. My problem is that when connecting my charging cable to the MHL hub my device isn't getting any power. I have no indications of my battery % going up. That means if I were to stream a movie onto my TV it would work fine but I would run out of battery fast. Does this seem like there's something wrong with the MHL adapter? Is my samsung battery charger not strong enough? Any help with this is greatly appreciated. I have done a bit of research on this and found mixed answers.
Actually... That's normal... An otg adapter puts your device into "power output" mode so it can power a flashdrive or other storage device... So the input/charging mode gets turned off.
Plugging your charger into the hub helps power the external devices so they don't kill your battery so quickly...
No. MHL 3 is meant to charge in parallel. Works on mine. It charges at 700mA only though, pretty slow. You can check the current by Synapse App + Skyhigh Kernel. I think you can configure higher charging rates as well(didn't try). MHL 3 is speced for 2A current.
Yeah... MHL works that way... But the OP says it's also an "OTG hub off ebay" .... So were not just talking about a straight MHL adapter... If it's an OTG hub triggering OTG mode on the tablet... Then it won't charge and it's not suppposed to.
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So I recently got a MHL/OTG adapter off of ebay. The HDMI out and usb ports seem to work no problem. My problem is that when connecting my charging cable to the MHL hub my device isn't getting any power. I have no indications of my battery % going up. That means if I were to stream a movie onto my TV it would work fine but I would run out of battery fast. Does this seem like there's something wrong with the MHL adapter? Is my samsung battery charger not strong enough? Any help with this is greatly appreciated. I have done a bit of research on this and found mixed answers.
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Hi, I also have a MHL/OTG adapter like yours (MHL/OTG/Card Reader) MHL-HDMI works flawless but OTG doesn't.
A USB pendrive that works flawless with an OTG cable it doesn't recognized in the hub while MHL>HDMI it's working.
@xmilar can you please post the link to the MHL/OTG adapter you bought and while yours not charge, are MHL+OTG working simultaniusly?
Thanks!
I've looked into MHL adapters for my Tab S 10.5 and LG G3 but it would require multiple cables and if I replace either or both items and the new item uses a different MHL, I would have to spend more money. I ended up just buying a Chromecast that does the same thing and wirelessly. Best $30 I spent
Hello, I ve bought an MHL adapter, the one with usb connector to charge the tablet when using the mhl, anyway nothing is working. The tablet doesnt charge, and shows 2 times the following : HDMI Connected, then after one second HDMI disconnected, two times. On my Sony phone works with no problems. I have skyhigh kernel and stock rom.
Probably it's not MHL 3?
Sorry for the late reply, if is not MHL 3 why is it working on my Sony Z1 compact with 4.4.4 rooted also.
If the adapter works on a Sony device then its probably based on a standard micro USB connector. According to the wikipedia entry for MHL newer samsung devices use a propriety 11 pin micro USB connector for MHL. There is mention of a "tip" to adapt between 11 pin and 5 pin, perhaps you could buy one of these?
Hi all,
I want to use my Note 4 as a PC with connected USB switch and a TV for a monitor.
What I know so far about the MHL cable:
1. It has to be active cable, with a power supply feeding from my 2A phone charger
2. Every article suggests that Note4 has 11 pin USB connector. So I can use it like a PC with such cable.
3. MHL 2.0 can transfer 1080p @ 60fps, Note 4 has MHL 2.0
What do you guys think, what cable you suggest that I should pick?
One would be the following, according to my research:
http://www.amazon.de/CSL-Adapterkab..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1NB4JR4JTSNX4ANBM298
Cheers !
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
blindskater39 said:
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
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Hi, my TV is: http://www.samsung.com/fr/support/model/UE40ES6710SXZF
Though I want to be able to do this using every TV that has HDMI
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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The cable you found should work. You may need a USB hub to use a keyboard and mouse simultaneously. I haven't tried a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse but you might be able to connect 2 devices at the same time?
Since you want to use your note 4 as a computer i recommend you to buy Samsung Smart Dock multimedia hub. I have it and my cracked screen S4 is connected to my TV and i use a wireless keyboard to browse and watch movies from showbox etc... better than any smart tv out there.
if you look on eBay you can get it cheaper, i think i bought mine for $50 almost 2yrs ago. it has 3 usb port for flash drive, keyboard mouse, hdd
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLs5EVv3B1A
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Since you want to use your note 4 as a computer i recommend you to buy Samsung Smart Dock multimedia hub. I have it and my cracked screen S4 is connected to my TV and i use a wireless keyboard to browse and watch movies from showbox etc... better than any smart tv out there.
if you look on eBay you can get it cheaper, i think i bought mine for $50 almost 2yrs ago. it has 3 usb port for flash drive, keyboard mouse, hdd
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLs5EVv3B1A
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That's nice though, if I was from US that is. Sadly this thing is no where to be found in Bulgaria ...
Check out this review:
http://www.blogyourearth.com/en/smartphone-2/samsung-multimedia-smart-dock-edd-s20jwegsta/5164
Hello, anyone ???
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Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
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The cable you found should work. You may need a USB hub to use a keyboard and mouse simultaneously. I haven't tried a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse but you might be able to connect 2 devices at the same time?
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My Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (N910H) can use MHL cable (11 pins) without external power on my old Samsung TV that doesn't support MHL natively (I have to use USB charger when I connect my old HTC Sensation on the same TV).
I also use Bluetooth Headset & Gamepad at the same time with no lag while on my Gear VR.
But I've never tried all Bluetooth Mouse, Keyboard, Headset & Gamepad...maybe I will try it tonight
Use you charger only to charge your phone when needed
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I use 3 old MHL cable with micro USB 5 pins to 11 pins converter & all working well, without external power source.
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Best solution I've found for being able to charge the phone, have USB OTG and MHL out to a TV at the same time is the Samsung Smart Media Dock:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Multimedia-Smart-Galaxy-Series-White/dp/B009KZ3XE6
...they're usually available for ~£20 on ebay. Keyboards/mice etc work fine with it. You have 3x USB ports, HDMI out and stereo headphone out (and I believe the audio over HDMI is capable of 5.1).
The one thing I can't get to work is an Xbox 360 controller (preferred over the PS3 controller I have because I'd rather wired than bluetooth). Works ok with my old S3, but the Note doesn't register it when connected. I don't know if that's a ROM/Kernel issue though, as the S3 ROM/Kernel I use has a module to enable XBox controllers.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Multimedia-Smart-Galaxy-Series-White/dp/B009KZ3XE6
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That's nice but i doubt that these guys will ship the thing to Bulgaria ( It always happens with stuff like that ). Thanks for the replay. At least I will know that to search for
As in topic, does asus zenfone 6 have ability to stream out video through usb to hdmi adapter?
After some time android q will come to this device and it will contain native desktop mode so i would like to use it.
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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According to GSMarena it's 2.0.
I looked at the USB diagrams and it appears that alternate modes over USB-C use the same pins as SuperSpeed meaning that you can't have alternate mode without the other (but not vice versa).
Unless I'm missing something, there shouldn't be any display mode. However I'm not sure if the GSMarena data sheet is accurate.
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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Display output via microusb worked differently as the regular port does not have the pins or bandwidth for it. I had an LG G2 which could also output a display signal. I think it's possible to do the same via USB-C but at the same time I think it's simpler to use alternate mode hence the conclusion I came up with. If I have the time I'll go digging around some more later.
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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I looked at a few things and I think I was correct in my first post. While I think it would be technically possible to implement MHL on USB-C like they did on MicroB (it would just piggyback off the necessary pins like it used to do), it doesn't seem like it would make sense to do that and I can't find an adapter/cable that would work in that scenario so you'd need 3.1 because they all require Alternate Mode support. However Alternate Mode is an optional spec so just because a device supports 3.1 doesn't mean it'll support display functionality.
I should also note that the ROG Phone has USB-C 3.1 according to GSMArena.
Another note is that it appears that MHL officially lists MHL as working on USB-C via Alternate Mode.
Meanwhile ASUS launching an external display that is advertised to support input from a mobile phone, but hey, no their latest flagship. they are so dumb they are launching devices that don't their other devices..
why would anyone cheap on using usb2.0 connector, when internally SD855 supports 3.1 and so does UFS2.1, is beyond me. It must save la 0.something to use 2.0 instead of 3.1
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
No native HDMI output for my device using usb-c to hdmi cable.
However I think the Asus portable monitor thingy they announced at computex actually supports data over usb to transfer the image.. but I am not sure at all.
mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
hack.causality said:
The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
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IIRC video output via Displaylink adapter works on every device if it can install displaylink app. Displaylink support doesn't depend on mhl support on specific device. I'm just to clarifying for internet strangers.
gnrsenpai said:
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
pawloland said:
Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
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usb-c cable, i use that cable for macbook to have second monitor, and charging
hack.causality said:
I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Nubia red magic 3 is your best best. It doesn't support HDMI output yet but apparently they've said they may support it in a software update. It has USB c 3.1. Also 90hz screen, headphone jack, 5000ma battery, SD 855, it even has a CPU fan lol. It's newly out but I think you can install twrp and root it but customs ROMs might be few if any. It's the closest phone I've found to meeting my needs of 3.5mm, SD 855 and HDMI. Only thing it's missing is expandable really.
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mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_red_magic_3-9692.php
Oh, and it's only £410.......
Hi, any news? Has anyone bought a displaylink product and used it working with the Zenphone 6?