I apologize if this is in the wrong section, but this is the best forum I could think to post in. I didn't want to just post it in a device-specific forum.
Basically, I want to know who's to blame for Android's (almost always) poor battery life. It has been several years since android has been out, and it wasn't until a few months ago that phones started having "good" battery life, namely with the Moto Atrix 4G, and the LG Optimus 2X / G2X. and Samsung Galaxy S II
Is the Android OS to blame. Was there something that was going on before 2.2 that was causing this?
My friend's iPhone 4 has a 1420 mAh battery, and it can last nearly two days with medium use, all while receiving push notifications, etc etc..
In comparison, I have to undervolt & underclock my Evo 4G just so it will get through one work day on the 1500mah battery
And it's not just the iPhone. I know people with large-screened Symbian devices that also have great battery life. Even my roommate's HD7 gets much better battery life with similar usage.
I know that usage is a big factor, and the "good" battery life is subjective, but before people drop in and start raving about how android is more "connected", and stuff is always syncing, blah blah blah. I want you to drop your biases, and accept the truth; android battery life has been terrible.
So who's to blame? Google?
I would have to imagine that it's just the nature of the beast in that the iphone and WM7 all have very similar hardware and therefore can optimize there code to suite that specific platform to eek out all the battery that they can.
However the variety in hardware that we all enjoy with android does not enable the same amount of optimizations unfortunately.
That being said, with advances in hardware and software there will inevitably be better battery life around the corner - for all platforms. so i think that the solution would be that manufacturers like samsung, qualcomm, ti and even HTC, Moto to better optimize their products before launch, however out of these i only really see sammy as being able to do this as they are the only one to produce the chips and the phone.
but yeah... just my 2c
Hi guys,
I have been searching relentlessly for a ROM/Kernel that is geared towards extreme performance. All the projects I have come across that are labeled for these purposes are no longer being developed. Does anyone happen to know of anything I might have missed? My son and I mostly use our devices for games. He has the Nexus 7 and I the Nexus 5. I have tried various different ROMs and kernels and when I look at the way they are configured they all seam to be geared towards battery life. When i play some games like Madden mobile I experience lag at random points in the game. Surely there is something that can improve this? I have tried using closed with that program that lets you run games at higher performance levels. I have tried setting both the CPU and GPU to performance. Can you guys give me some advice or point me in the right direction?
Another thing I have been noticing is audio quality seams to be lacking. I am getting distorted audio in different games and during other poi ts when using the phone. I have installed faux's sound control and set the audio to quality but that hasn't seamed to help either. There was one ROM and kernel that solved the audio issues as far as I can remember or made it less noticeable but I cant remember what they were. If you guys have any pointers please let me know.
Thanks,
Rocky
You could try Trinity kernel. And ask about settings in their thread.
And roms would make little difference, as they have no real bearing on performance.
But really, any kernel can be tweaked for performance. Usually at a cost to battery life... But that's how it goes. ?
I think all you'd need to do is remove the thermal throttling limits. Performance is great for the first couple minutes but then will consistently go down as the heat rises.
Remove or extend the thermal throttling points and performance will remain consistent for longer.
Hello.
I brought a nexus 5 in the first week of release, and the battery has never been great but as its not often im a heavy user i get by. But i am curious why it seems a fast majority of people achieve far greater battery life/SOT, as like i say i dont have many apps installed and not a heavy user.
Is there any difference in the hardware from the original ones co!pared to the versions you can buy currently?
I have tried root, greenify, standard you name it and always seem to reach same level.
andy46 said:
Hello.
I brought a nexus 5 in the first week of release, and the battery has never been great but as its not often im a heavy user i get by. But i am curious why it seems a fast majority of people achieve far greater battery life/SOT, as like i say i dont have many apps installed and not a heavy user.
Is there any difference in the hardware from the original ones co!pared to the versions you can buy currently?
I have tried root, greenify, standard you name it and always seem to reach same level.
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There's no difference, no.
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There's a battery life sticky thread in this very forum, have a read of that. Battery life is affected by many variables, especially environmental ones.
andy46 said:
Hello.
I brought a nexus 5 in the first week of release, and the battery has never been great but as its not often im a heavy user i get by. But i am curious why it seems a fast majority of people achieve far greater battery life/SOT, as like i say i dont have many apps installed and not a heavy user.
Is there any difference in the hardware from the original ones co!pared to the versions you can buy currently?
I have tried root, greenify, standard you name it and always seem to reach same level.
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I believe the released a slightly modified second version with slightly bigger speaker / microphone holes. That's it, nothing that would affect the battery performance so you need to change your thinking.
Use the dedicated battery troubleshooting thread in general. Root by itself won't do anything, and greenify only does so much.
You need to diagnose exactly what is using your battery. SOT is only one crude measurement. It all depends on how you use the device, not just the apps. Keep an eye on wakelocks, and things like screen brightness and signal strength.
eddiehk6 said:
I believe the released a slightly modified second version with slightly bigger speaker / microphone holes.
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They actually didnt. It was simply manufacturing tolerances that made people think that. Even today, a newly manufactured device could have bigger or smaller holes.
Hi guys, I'm going straight to the point: are you happy with your phone (in general, I know every phone has some minor annoyances)? I keep reading on the internet people that keep on lamenting about it (bad battery, laggy, awful RAM management, ect.), that's why I've opened this thread. I don't have the phone and I plan on buying it (it or the s6 edge or edge+, still have to decide - unfortunately the note 5 isn't coming to Europe anytime soon -), but all the reports are making me scared of buying it.
I'm happy with it. But you enjoy it more with root. Custom kernel fixes the ram issue, keeps the system speedy, custom roms add more features and debtor for better performance and ram management. So I'm basically enjoying it because of root
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Like osmosizzz above I can say that I am very happy with this phone. Once you root it and remove the bloatware this thing flies. Using a custom ROM and kernel I have better battery life, endless customization options and a speedy UI experience.
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I'd like not to have to root, I'm just tired of it (coming from a nexus 4), but I guess I might consider it if I buy the S6
You really dont have to have root as the phone is still plenty fast and with each update that comes out they are improving the software of the phone.
It's the best phone I ever had, my only gripes are aggressive memory management and the placement of the speaker (I usually end up covering it when holding it ), lag and battery are a lot better since the 2nd 511 update, the first update from 501 was rather laggy
I have 2 of this phone. here are my opinions:
1st phone (rooted and on XstrestoLite ROM)
I have great battery life, responses and everything seems fine except for the current bug with BOGG firmwares, which resulted in the keyboard lag when coming for lockscreen (Keyboard open delay about 3-6 seconds) check out my battery life here and here
2nd phone (stock and not rooted ever)
I find that the battery life on this phone not as great as my 1st phone, but however, everything is pretty smooth and great to me. But for a short time i had problems with GPS not being able to lock properly on Waze and Google Maps, however, not sure what happened (i didn't update the phone or anything) but it was back to normal again. and never happened again ever since.
Verdict: i love both my phones, i'll have them only until the Samsung Galaxy S7 comes out.
I owned this phone for over 4 months now. It never lag and blazing fast, the fastest android phone I've ever seen and the most amazing design I've ever seen too. It is just how the poor memory management kills apps at the background when you doing heavy multi-tasking, I've heard the 2nd 5.1.1 OTA fixed it. If multi-tasking is your concern, you should consider S6 Edge Plus comes with 4GB ram.
The battery performance is above average, imagine when you got this ultra smooth speed plus 2K screen and with only a 2550mAh capacity, I'll say it has done the job pretty well on battery life and enough to use a full day for any light to medium usage user. Heavy user will need a 2nd charge but it supports QC2.0(just get a QC2.0 powerbank) or wireless charging.
https://shopmeenova.appspot.com/st/p/mrg2.html
External storage can be overcome easily with this cute staff.
Since I'm a one-hand lover and the S6 size is the max. acceptable limit to me. I'm thinking to swap to Sony Z5 Compact later but that's s810 cpu overheating issue scared me away, I may just stick with S6 until S8 out, still not decided yet atm.
Its pretty good, but the RAM management and the occasional battery freakout (background drain) are irritating. If 5.1.1 fixes these 2 issues, I'm gold.
Before anyone tells me I can custom, its a work phone, I need full stock unrooted/knox intact otherwise I can't hook into my work's MDM systems (yes, its really nazi security).
But even without root, debloating via package disabler pro/debloater makes a noticeable difference to battery, which is a poor indictment of Samsung (6th generation Galaxy and still not learnt their lesson?).
The camera is out of this world and you get REALLY used to having a reliable fingerprint reader, I just rest my thumb stupidly on the home button on other people's phones (and if there isn't a physical home button I just stare stupidly at the screen for ~2 seconds lol).
I've never actually used the 'swap battery' feature so don't miss it, work phone so I got the storage bumped but if I paid for it myself I'd probably be irritated at the cost
One happy user here.
Battery life, my only gripe. Otherwise a perfect phone for me. Won't be rooting, just changed the launcher (Nova prime) and Skinomi case. Happy S6 user here!
apart from the camera I don't like any thing about this phone.
Best phone i,ve ever had,fantastic camera/screen/battery lasts me a full day no problems at all
Unhappy user here; bad battery life, laggy software, agressive memory resulting to bad multi tasking; will definitely change the phone.
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I'm quite pleased with it, and I didn't even root mine. I'm especially impressed with the GearVR.
Count me with the happy owners!
I will root soon anyway to get more flexibility and customization.
Since updating to the EVR firmware (for network specific settings) I love it, super fast and great performance even with intensive games. My one issue is battery life; although it lasts the day with ordinary use it does drain after a while of continuous use, but then again with fast charging I just plug it in for a few minutes and all is good.
Is there any fix for the memory management?
The Zel said:
Hi guys, I'm going straight to the point: are you happy with your phone (in general, I know every phone has some minor annoyances)? I keep reading on the internet people that keep on lamenting about it (bad battery, laggy, awful RAM management, ect.), that's why I've opened this thread. I don't have the phone and I plan on buying it (it or the s6 edge or edge+, still have to decide - unfortunately the note 5 isn't coming to Europe anytime soon -), but all the reports are making me scared of buying it.
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Only thing I dislike about this phone is the battery, but as other have said. Root->custom rom + kernel (and MAYBE soon Xposed) and this phone is at least average in battery life.
If you don't root (and is a power user, the phone is not for you). With root + custom rom + few tweaks I can go around 3-6 hours SOT on data (depending on brightness) and 6+ on wifi. Without I barely hit 3.
Phones like the Xperia Z3 compact can hit 6 hours SOT without root. So yeah, if rooting this phone is great, if not it sucks from a power user perspective.
Psych0t1c20 said:
Is there any fix for the memory management?
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Latest 5.1.1 has fixed it.