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quick question (looking to buy)

are there any branded nexus models or are they all unbranded no matter what network they come on?
also i hear hangouts is massively annoying being the sms app. will installing the 4.3 sms app work?
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Google Play Store selling 2 unbranded variants - one for the Americas and one for the rest of the planet (Euro & Asia) due to bands used by carriers, that's far less than the iOS products sold for their eco systems. And, both are unlocked - there are unconfirmed rumors that those sold directly by Sprint (with CDMA/LTE bands) might - MIGHT - have extra bloats loaded as they resell them with a highly marked up price for postpaid contract customers.
Otherwise, mine came from Google directly and running T-Mobile USA sim, and there is nothing else on it.

Letitride said:
Google Play Store selling 2 unbranded variants - one for the Americas and one for the rest of the planet (Euro & Asia) due to bands used by carriers, that's far less than the iOS products sold for their eco systems. And, both are unlocked - there are unconfirmed rumors that those sold directly by Sprint (with CDMA/LTE bands) might - MIGHT - have extra bloats loaded as they resell them with a highly marked up price for postpaid contract customers.
Otherwise, mine came from Google directly and running T-Mobile USA sim, and there is nothing else on it.
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I have a Sprint Nexus 4 on T-mobile. Same exact phone. Same model number, same build number, and 100% factory unlocked with ZERO bloat. So that rumor is confirmed. I also got best buy to price match the play store price.

so hopefully it won't matter what network i go on, the phone should be bloatware free?
do you have any regrets getting it?
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Any Canadian Users?

Any Canadians got a 3rd Gen Moto G? I know they are locked unfortunately, but are they the same model as the unlocked variant sold in the states at best buy? Due to it being carrier locked, idk how fast updates will come.

I have the Canadian one. I wanted to get the 2GB RAM variant, but unfortunately it is hard to get a hold of in Canada right now. Also, interestingly, Telus was the only carrier willing to sell one to me outright, and so I had to pay their higher $230 price. The 1GB RAM version is actually quite alright, haven't noticed any lag or low RAM issues.
The good thing is that the Canadian versions are bloatware free, and the carriers here are not too bad with updates. Also, if you are willing to unlock the bootloader, you can flash custom ROMs as well as updated stock ROMs from other regions.

squid2 said:
I have the Canadian one. I wanted to get the 2GB RAM variant, but unfortunately it is hard to get a hold of in Canada right now. Also, interestingly, Telus was the only carrier willing to sell one to me outright, and so I had to pay their higher $230 price. The 1GB RAM version is actually quite alright, haven't noticed any lag or low RAM issues.
The good thing is that the Canadian versions are bloatware free, and the carriers here are not too bad with updates. Also, if you are willing to unlock the bootloader, you can flash custom ROMs as well as updated stock ROMs from other regions.
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Thats good to know, I am going to try picking up a Moto G from Virgin Mobile. I need a decent phone to hold me until the next nexus 5 since my nexus 4 broke lol. Hows the multitasking? Can you play music and browse in chrome without it killing the music app? I am not even sure if the 2GB model is coming to Canada to be honest. Its not worth importing it form the states after currency exchange and taxes and duties

squid2 said:
I have the Canadian one. I wanted to get the 2GB RAM variant, but unfortunately it is hard to get a hold of in Canada right now. Also, interestingly, Telus was the only carrier willing to sell one to me outright, and so I had to pay their higher $230 price. The 1GB RAM version is actually quite alright, haven't noticed any lag or low RAM issues.
The good thing is that the Canadian versions are bloatware free, and the carriers here are not too bad with updates. Also, if you are willing to unlock the bootloader, you can flash custom ROMs as well as updated stock ROMs from other regions.
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Are the Canadian versions locked?

oxxshadow said:
Thats good to know, I am going to try picking up a Moto G from Virgin Mobile. I need a decent phone to hold me until the next nexus 5 since my nexus 4 broke lol. Hows the multitasking? Can you play music and browse in chrome without it killing the music app? I am not even sure if the 2GB model is coming to Canada to be honest. Its not worth importing it form the states after currency exchange and taxes and duties
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Basic multitasking is no problem whatsoever. I have 5 web tabs, hangouts, and a music player open right now and I can switch between any web tabs or open apps without any reloading or lag.
As you said., It doesn't look like the 2GB RAM version is coming to Canada, and the exchange rates don't make sense for importing it from the US. It's a shame though, I don't know why Motorola can't just offer it for sale retail here (through Staples or Best Buy or something like that, as they did with previous Moto G models).
The Canadian versions are carrier locked, but the bootloader can be unlocked. You can carrier unlock them too from various online sites (or from your carrier at an excessive cost).

XT1540 1g user here,all run smooth and battery is not bad (4-5h sot) waiting for an aosp cm ROM to come out
The device worth 216$ from koodo Carrier.
Anyone know how to unlock the Sim ?

Moto X Play arrives to Mexico

Since today, can be purchased from motorola Mexico, starting from $5,999.00

Anyone in Mexico want to help me buy one and ship to the US?

Can anyone confirm the Moto X Play sold in Mexico is the dual sim version? It's unbelievable how confusing Motorola's model # and specification pages are.

erp2863 said:
Can anyone confirm the Moto X Play sold in Mexico is the dual sim version? It's unbelievable how confusing Motorola's model # and specification pages are.
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The Moto X Play in Mexico has dual nanoSIM, model XT1563

The mexico model should be good to go here in the states and be unlocked. I would also be interesting in a 32gb model. If someone has an address in mexico we can ship to and then ship it back to use here...thats all we would need

DavidCalvillo said:
The Moto X Play in Mexico has dual nanoSIM, model XT1563
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Is that because you have one in hand or just from the motorola.mx website? I chatted with the motorola latin america support and they said at the moment only the single sim version is available. If you go through motomaker it makes no mention of dual sim, nor in the any of the description content. You only see dual nanoSIM in the specs.

nairb1 said:
Anyone in Mexico want to help me buy one and ship to the US?
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i might be able to help, last year i helped around 20 people to get a moto maxx, just let me finish work and see what we can do.
Link for reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...ion-coming-t2922398/post56726486#post56726486

Jaocagomez said:
i might be able to help, last year i helped around 20 people to get a moto maxx, just let me finish work and see what we can do.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...ion-coming-t2922398/post56726486#post56726486
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Yes I remember. I was going to get one from you but decided against it because of the hardware buttons. Atleast in Mexico we also have full access to the 32gb model and moto maker. It is the best option and if you can hook it up I know many people will be happy
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jerflash said:
Yes I remember. I was going to get one from you but decided against it because of the hardware buttons. Atleast in Mexico we also have full access to the 32gb model and moto maker. It is the best option and if you can hook it up I know many people will be happy
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i will need someone to try, last year was difficult because it was only credit cards and later only mexican cards.
This year we have the option to pay with paypal should be easier for anyone.

Jaocagomez said:
i will need someone to try, last year was difficult because it was only credit cards and later only mexican cards.
This year we have the option to pay with paypal should be easier for anyone.
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Ah sweet!
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erp2863 said:
Is that because you have one in hand or just from the motorola.mx website? I chatted with the motorola latin america support and they said at the moment only the single sim version is available. If you go through motomaker it makes no mention of dual sim, nor in the any of the description content. You only see dual nanoSIM in the specs.
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I already have it since thursday, and also I already used it in the US with a T-Mobile nanoSIM and on AT&T using a Telcel nanoSIM, in both cases I got 4G. So I can confirm that this phone has dual SIM

DavidCalvillo said:
I already have it since thursday, and also I already used it in the US with a T-Mobile nanoSIM and on AT&T using a Telcel nanoSIM, in both cases I got 4G. So I can confirm that this phone has dual SIM
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How was your experience with tmobile? I would love to get this phone as a backup. It's a hell of a deal.
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Perfect, thank you for confirmation!

Jaocagomez said:
i will need someone to try, last year was difficult because it was only credit cards and later only mexican cards.
This year we have the option to pay with paypal should be easier for anyone.
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Yes I'm willing to try! The Mexican version is exactly what I'm looking for since it's not tied to any carrier and it will get updates directly from Motorola.

GrandchildDavid said:
Yes I'm willing to try! The Mexican version is exactly what I'm looking for since it's not tied to any carrier and it will get updates directly from Motorola.
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more info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-play/general/selling-moto-x-play-mexico-t3187218

FuMMoD said:
How was your experience with tmobile? I would love to get this phone as a backup. It's a hell of a deal.
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The experience with T-Mobile was really good, this phone has AWS band for T-Mobile 3G and all the bands in LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T, and even some Chinese LTE bands, and I guess this phone is really good for a backup phone, I still love my Nexus 6, but this phone holds his ground pretty good.

DavidCalvillo said:
The experience with T-Mobile was really good, this phone has AWS band for T-Mobile 3G and all the bands in LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T, and even some Chinese LTE bands, and I guess this phone is really good for a backup phone, I still love my Nexus 6, but this phone holds his ground pretty good.
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How were you able to acquire it? Can you suggest an exporter?
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FuMMoD said:
How were you able to acquire it? Can you suggest an exporter?
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I got an invitation by Motorola, so when they announced the availability of this phone, also was available a few units for us at the time, but only in white or black, right now the only way to get it is via Moto Maker, takes around 10 days, in a few days it going to be available in Best Buy Mexico, but I don’t think the deliver to the US, usually we buy in the US or import from the US, not the other way around, I don’t think there is a good exporter to US
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DavidCalvillo said:
I got an invitation by Motorola, so when they announced the availability of this phone, also was available a few units for us at the time, but only in white or black, right now the only way to get it is via Moto Maker, takes around 10 days, in a few days it going to be available in Best Buy Mexico, but I don’t think the deliver to the US, usually we buy in the US or import from the US, not the other way around, I don’t think there is a good exporter to US
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I think there is a person doing what you need, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-play/general/selling-moto-x-play-mexico-t3187218, beside that; I like the phone but no more than the Nexus 6.

International Unlocked S8 & S8+ In the US

Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.

I ordered from SamsungUK.. lets see if they honor the order.

i am checking into this place.
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus

It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?

I'll wait for the Duos version a month later from start shipping, I'm using exynos galaxy/notes from the note 2 .

biship said:
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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I'm not sure. i've never bought intl phone.

I have written to the samsung UK web page and they told me the sim free phone is "locked" to unnlocked you muts make a 5 minut call to a number but from the place the phone was intended to sell, the UK

When you do the checkout on Clove store, you can choose this option: "Samsung’s region lock stops use of this handset within your chosen country unless activated with a European SIM. I agree for Clove Technology to break the seal on the box, activate the phone and remove the region lock by completing a 5 minute call on the handset."

biship said:
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.

biship said:
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Doubt it. Every year on release there is this region lock, but when I get my phones, they're never region locked.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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Oh this sounds more like it. I've never had to deal with region lock..
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osmosizzz said:
Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?

BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?

luch4galaxy said:
Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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No I never got Samsung pay to work on the international model. But recently I think they got it to work on the s7 edge somehow.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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PuffinNugz said:
I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
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I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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osmosizzz said:
I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.

PuffinNugz said:
When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
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I just did it on my Computer and you're right..its cheaper than anywhere else. I may just pick it up now
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
The phone says it supports: LTE Bands 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(AWS), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
And ATT Uses 2, 4, 5, 17 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
So would the internation phone support ATT LTE?

Flame Red said:
Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
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LTE works.

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LTE works.
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Thanks for the education! I usually buy TMOB as in the past they have unlocked bootloaders and LTE works on ATT. But if I read the tea leaves correctly, TMOB might be changing that for the S8. I guess no one knows for sure yet for the S8, but generally speaking, have the boot loaders on past Sammy international models usually unlocked?

Is Anyone Ordering (or Pre-ordering) a U.S. Ver. XZ Premium???

I'm curious to know if anyone here is going to purchase the U.S. version of the phone and use it on T-Mobile or AT&T. Current pre-order sites are Amazon and Best Buy.
I currently have HTC U11 but have always been a Xperia fan and I'm really liking what Sony is offering in the XZ Premium so on a whim I decided to pre-order the phone.
I have T-Mobile for service so I'll be trying it out on that. My concerns are no VOLTE and no WIFI calling. I've been testing my LG V20 for the last week with VOLTE and WIFI calling turned off and it hasn't been an issue or bothered me at all so I think that I'm good there. Another thing is that it's missing the software for fingerprint sensor. I can live without the fingerprint sensor so it's really a non-issue to me but I understand that it bothers others.
Let me and others know what you think about it. Have you pre-ordered or will you order it? Would you use it on AT&T or T-Mobile?
Thanks!
UPDATED: So it appears that the phone I pre-ordered from Best Buy has the model# 8142. This is the same model number for the UK phones per the info from https://www.techwalls.com/sony-xperia-xz-premium-g8141-g8142-model-number-differences/. If this is the case then I guess that I am getting the international UK model, just from Best Buy. The phone listed on US Amazon doesn't have a model number so I'll have to say that it's unknown until someone orders it and can update me. Per that website there is a G8141 but I don't know who is selling it in the US.

Hi - I've ordered from Unlocked-mobiles.com (UK). Its ~100$ lesser + Bluetooth speaker ($150 in BestBuy) not to forget the Sony international warranty. Also you don't need to flash anything since the FP scanner works out of the box. I am using with Tmobile and haven't noticed any issues so far. Several in the US have got it from UK as per the other threads in this forum

gauthamsv said:
Hi - I've ordered from Unlocked-mobiles.com (UK). Its ~100$ lesser + Bluetooth speaker ($150 in BestBuy) not to forget the Sony international warranty. Also you don't need to flash anything since the FP scanner works out of the box. I am using with Tmobile and haven't noticed any issues so far. Several in the US have got it from UK as per the other threads in this forum
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Thanks for the input. I guess that a big deal for many is the cost difference between a UK version and a US version and that alone may drive them to opt for the UK version. It's too bad that I'm not too keen on purchasing a phone from UK and bringing to US. I'd rather purchase the US version from Best Buy and include the accidental damage plan to have that extra coverage as well. As a note I haven't owned a Sony phone since the Z3 from T Mobile and believe me I'm pissed that T-Mobile hasn't had a Sony phone since.
If the phones are identical (I think that's the case) then I could flash the UK firmware onto it and use as normal until (if) a warranty claim is needed then I can flash US firmware and off it goes. :good:

I'm interested in purchasing this phone at Best Buy as well and using it on the T-Mobile network. For those that have purchased and on T-Mobile, does the Wi-Fi Calling feature work? I love that it has dual sim capability for when I travel abroad, but I do use Wi-Fi calling just as much. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

hypershark said:
I'm interested in purchasing this phone at Best Buy as well and using it on the T-Mobile network. For those that have purchased and on T-Mobile, does the Wi-Fi Calling feature work? I love that it has dual sim capability for when I travel abroad, but I do use Wi-Fi calling just as much. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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The unfortunate answer to that question is a definitive NO. Something about the fact that Sony doesn't have the device certified by T Mobile is what I heard. Same goes for the VoLTE.
I still use it on TMO though.