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SD Card - System Memory - Internal Memory !

Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J

tourjefferson said:
Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J
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system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.

jimakos29 said:
system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
I have seen the thread regarding Gameloft games, but if I'm not mistaken my phone need to be rooted, which I'm not planning to do any time soon. So that thread doesn't help me to get rid of the games from my internal memory.
Also, the App 2 SD app doesn't send the apps that I have in the internal memory to the external SD. It keeps sending the apps to(or from) internal and system memory.
So, I've got an empty external SD card that I can't transfer anything there even using an app that supposed to do that.
Is there anyway that I can move the apps manually?
Regarding the apps that keep running without need, that didn't happen when I had Froyo and it seems to me that running several apps on the background can cost my battery juice, so this is not so clever.

Apps did run in background on froyo as I rooted specifically to stop some but maybe they were not doing so when you checked as they stop in certain circumstances.
As for the sd thing you are right and it sucks but for some reason lg made it so when we choose install to sd it goes to internal sd card and I have yet to find way around this though for me its not a problem as I use my actual external sd card as storage for camera app and backups instead but the internal one will fit plenty of apps on.
Dave
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I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701

But won't that mean that mess up apps or cause problems, for example if you click to format or unmount external sd wont it try doing that to the internal one?
Dave

Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter

Pjedr said:
Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter
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All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave

mistermentality said:
All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave
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Agreed, but I don't have space lol
Anyway, found out that the problem with app running themselves on the background are worst than I first thought.
All kinds of apps seem to start themselves and keep running, that caused my phone to loose a 100% battery over the night!
Is anyone having this problem?

Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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mistermentality said:
Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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I'm 99% sure that the problem are the apps running.
Before, with Froyo, I didn't have this problem (apps starting themselves) and the battery was just fine.
I've realised something recently though, when I was using the app "App 2 SD" I was sending some apps to my System Memory in order to free space on Internal Memory.
What I noticed was that the apps in the System memory were the ones starting up themselves, so I moved them back to internal memory and they seem not to be starting again.
I'm keeping an eye on it because it's weird, but it's been almost one full day and my battery is doing okay, or that is what least seems to appear on my screen.

Pjedr said:
I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701
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hi,
Which config file is this? Is this the config file for apps2sd or the vold.stab file? (I could no longer the thread in your link)
Thanks

I think apps auto running in background is the major bug in GB, and i also have this problem so you are not alone or the only one having this problem

[Q] APPs to SD (external SD)

I have lots of games (most of them 3D) so I have to download a lot of Data.I tried to move the apps to the sd, thinking it might free up some memory in my internal memory of only 16GB ( I have 32GB external SD card). I quickly found that they apps are not installed in my external sd card!? They are all in my internal sd card (which I thought as my phone memory). I realized that samsung phones have an sd card inside as their memory, so the system can only move from phone to internal sd card.
I am trying to figure out how to move an app to external sd card.
Anyone has any clue??

I had the same problem, never found a solution...
BUT, just move all your music, videos, and other files to your external sd card and the 16gb internal sd card should be more then enough to have all your 3d games on... thast what i do.

Don't forget, there's still 2gb of nand memory in there that holds all the pre-installed apps plus any that you don't move to sd. Personally I keep all my games and 3d apps on the phone memory (tip here, nand is faster than flash) and all the less critical apps on the sd.

Ok after a lot of research I found out that you can't do it without ROOTING!!
After rooting there are lot of apps which can move your apps to external sd.
I am not going to root so I guess I am stuck ...
Thanks Android for such options

Bikram said:
Ok after a lot of research I found out that you can't do it without ROOTING!!
After rooting there are lot of apps which can move your apps to external sd.
I am not going to root so I guess I am stuck ...
Thanks Android for such options
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Whining like that makes me say get an iPhone sheep
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Use of SD CARD

When I had a P1000, I used a lot the feature of sending applications and games and its data files to my SD CARD with a single purpose: leave the internal 16Gb memory as free as possible for better perfomance.
Now I have a rooted P6200 and I only can use my SD CARD for storing music and videos because I have no option of MOVE TO SD CARD anymore.
I also tried some applications that MOVE TO SD CARD, but none of them work.
I called the SAMSUNG SUPPORT and they told me I should be able to move to SD, but I read somewhere that it's something about the way that Android 3 and 4 manage partitions... what makes me believe I will not be able.
So, I am confused.
Can I move applications to SD CARD or not?
Can I make a application store data on SD CARD? Example: MailDroid or a game that consumes a lot of the memory - I would prefer to store data on the SD card.
Does anybody have a hint for that?
Thank you!

mario.renor said:
When I had a P1000, I used a lot the feature of sending applications and games and its data files to my SD CARD with a single purpose: leave the internal 16Gb memory as free as possible for better perfomance.
Now I have a rooted P6200 and I only can use my SD CARD for storing music and videos because I have no option of MOVE TO SD CARD anymore.
I also tried some applications that MOVE TO SD CARD, but none of them work.
I called the SAMSUNG SUPPORT and they told me I should be able to move to SD, but I read somewhere that it's something about the way that Android 3 and 4 manage partitions... what makes me believe I will not be able.
So, I am confused.
Can I move applications to SD CARD or not?
Can I make a application store data on SD CARD? Example: MailDroid or a game that consumes a lot of the memory - I would prefer to store data on the SD card.
Does anybody have a hint for that?
Thank you!
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There are some apps in the Google Play Market like app 2 sd or move to sd (something like that), you can try one of those.
Personally I have no experience on these apps since I still have plenty of space, but you can read a little the features and see if that works for you

Unfortunately, APP2SD does not work to me
darkshadowx07 said:
There are some apps in the Google Play Market like app 2 sd or move to sd (something like that), you can try one of those.
Personally I have no experience on these apps since I still have plenty of space, but you can read a little the features and see if that works for you
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Thank you for your suggestion, but when APP2SD starts, I receive this message:
Your device has no real primary external storage or primary storage is emulated
APP2SD will not support move 2 card.
I dont understand this message. I have the 16Gb internal memory plus a 32Gb SD card as s imple a s it can b e, but it is not moving to S D.
P lease someone help me how to solve it.
By the way, the 32Gb SD is fully recognized by the P6200. I can see all my files regularly.

Link2sd may work, but I don't think there would be any performance gain from moving the apps over.
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Can I get super user access without rooting? Link2SD tells me I have to allow it to move the app.
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Kumabjorn said:
Can I get super user access without rooting?
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Super User access is root access. so, no you can't.
Sent from my GT-P6210

From my point of view, rooting is something relatively easy, both to get and to lose: you just flash a zip from the default recovery. It does not even takes your flash count up. Basically, it's a single file that needs to be placed in "/system/bin/". If you need to send it to support, mount "system" as R/W and delete "su".
I could be wrong though, but you should really look into it. I think it is worth it.
By the way, I think you would have to partition your SD Card to use it with Link2SD...
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How do I download addition game data to the external SD card?

Like the title says I'm attempting to install games and additional game data to the external SD card(32 gig) as my devices storage is pretty low.
Can this be done?

CitaloD said:
Like the title says I'm attempting to install games and additional game data to the external SD card(32 gig) as my devices storage is pretty low.
Can this be done?
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Depends on the application. If developer gave such possibility, then you can (if it doesn't install automatically on SD, then you will be able to move it). You should look in settings/applications - look for application, which you want to move and you will see such option, if it was implemented.

apps making it

If I move the app it only seems to move the 5mb part and not all the additional data.
And for some reason I can't move anything to my external, it moves stuff into the tablets 'sd card' which is tiny,

Just open the game and it does it automatically

you can ask someone else to download it and then copy game contents from SD to yours SD

musosoft said:
you can ask someone else to download it and then copy game contents from SD to yours SD
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No idea where the additional data is stored >: thanks anyways.
Wish my tablet was smart enough to copy data to the external once it runs out of space..

If your phone is rooted, you could transfer to sd card using titanium backup?

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root the phone to easier work

OBB files to external sd

Hi all,
I am running out of storage on my note and was wondering if there was a way of saving my games obb files to the memory card and still being able to play the games?. I know I could do the switch hack to swap the memory over but don't fancy doing that.
any ideas?

Hmm ,
Make a Folder Directory in External SD Card, Similar to the Internal SD Card.
And Try this,
It worked for me some time ago,
You can have a try too...
P.S : Make a Backup before you took any step....
Because once you lost your obb , game is lost ... as well this may affect your Game Progress
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Just search for directory bind i n the forums, easy to use, been using it since i ngot my not note and iot has allowed me to store countless app data o my sd

fallensoldier said:
Just search for directory bind i n the forums, easy to use, been using it since i ngot my not note and iot has allowed me to store countless app data o my sd
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You will need root to use the app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262

Better use FolderMount instead of DirectoryBind, easier to use and is still supported, so it also works with Android 4.2.2.

Kamairo said:
Better use FolderMount instead of DirectoryBind, easier to use and is still supported, so it also works with Android 4.2.2.
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I tried to use FolderMount and it moved the obb files ok but then when I went to play the games (Modern Combat 4 and GTA Vice City) they no longer work. With MC4 it's starts to load like normal then just jumps back to my homescreen, with GTA it says each time additional files successfully downloaded but then freezes the Note.
Any ideas??

Well I give up!.
I have tried to use both programs to get my games saved to ext SD but I must be doing something wrong cuz I can't get either to work right.
Why o why did Samsung feel the need to stop you saving games to external SD???.
I only swapped from my Tab 8.9 cuz I was always filling the 16GB memory, I thought buying a tablet that could take an SD card would solve my problems.
Oh well never mind, thanks for all the suggestions....

hi, if i move dungeon hunter 4 obb file to external sd card temporarily to free up some space for internal memory, after that i put the obb file back to internal memory, will the game still have have the saved game progress?

ray_J13 said:
hi, if i move dungeon hunter 4 obb file to external sd card temporarily to free up some space for internal memory, after that i put the obb file back to internal memory, will the game still have have the saved game progress?
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of course you can, I've often done that for a few games which has quite large obb or data, gameloft, glu, or ea games, when I want to play the game, just return the obb or the data back to the original folder, then the games ready to be played back with no loss game progress, and the good again, the device does not need diroot