Noobie question here. Is there any way to transfer files to and from directly to flash if the phone you have DOES NOT have USB OTG support? No PC in the mix, just a flash, cable adaptor and phone itself. If so, is it possible to do it without rooting? I've tried the PNY Duo-Link as well, without success (r/w from the laptop, phone does nothing). See I prefer to have the flash as my main datastore, independent of internet transfer and local to the PC, laptop, phone, etc.
Recently purchased a Verizon LG Transpyre, Model Number: VS810PP. The closest solution I've found is WiFi File transfer. However, I want to take the PC out of the equation (don't run M$) for the driver:
http://androidxda.com/download-lg-usb-drivers
Any help would be appreciated, maybe I should have gone the Moto E?
Wifi File Transfer does require not only Mobile Hotspot, but Mobile data too ;( You get an ugly Verizon subscription message with Mobile data even though you want to tranfer from YOUR PC to YOUR flash. Still a lot of hassle to go through though all you want is a non USB OTG phone to flash.
I can use bidirectional transfers via a miniUSB to USB cable on the Transpyre, but the flash isnt there. Had a talk with Sandisk technical support about non USB OTG solutions they may have for file transfers. Basically with OTG (MTP) only Microsoft supported scenarios work to a PC, there are no flash options and to to try Amazon. Bottom-line is, according to them, is if you have a non USB OTG phone, your only option is a SD option.
I just like everything I have on one media i.e. not multiple, SD, CD, flash etc. On top of that I want a bootable media. What would fit the bill would be a male SDmini cable into the phones slot to a female USB adapter for the flash drive, I dont think thats possible. So, some sort of SD adapter for the non USB OTG device is all I can come up with. What do others use for their main bootable datastore media for the phone, PC, Stereo, etc. i.e. the flash drive, SD, SD to USB adapter, DVD, etc.? Or should I just throw the phone and get a USB OTG one
Now the question is bootable SDCard vs USB for all around bootable media for storage to any device. This is what I did, almost there...
Bought a neat little kit from Walmart, Mobile Junkie's 3-in-1 mobile Kit. Basically, I took it's miniSD stuck it in my phone. I can use a miniUSB toUSB cable to the PC and pull the miniSD when I want and slide it into the kit's USB for the PC or booting. Getting close to all the functionality I want other than it's a pain to open up the phone and the bootable USB image I have did not work on the miniSD. The kit also has a regular SD, i.e. miniSD > USB > SD. Not sure if this type of USB/miniSD connection is bootable. But I think all I need to do is create a bootable to the miniSD from the PC.
Any experiences out there between bootable USB's vs SD's?
Conclusion - I'll never buy a phone again without USB OTG support.
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Is it possible to connect an XDAII t a digital camera to allow me to download images on the move? Or how about connecting to any PC using a USB cable to transfer files, images, etc? I read somewhere theat the XDAII chipset doesn't support this type of connection, is this correct?
No, it's not possible. For any PDA (and our xda, too) the chipset is configured as a slave usb which doesn't allow you to use "normal" usb functions. thats also the reason because activesync exists.
You have a digital camera already in your xda 2, you can transfer files to any pc as long as activesync is installed, just click explore and you can drag and drop. Alernatively you can use a card reader, this will plug into any usb enable pc and allow transferring of files both ways.
I do not think that you can connect it bu usb - probably you need special drivers for it...
99% of htc devices don't support usb host
and can as such only be used by a host
not use other usb devices itself
some things are possible...
With the software WM5torage you can hook up your Hima or any other HTC device to any PC with no Activesync installed and it behaves like any other mass storage device. So if your camera has SD cards you can easily transfer pictures.
If you still use WM2003 on your Hima you can use accessory called Backpack to read CF cards or use a CF to any other card converter.
You can use IR or Bluetooth for wireless control of robots and other devices.
There is also RS232 on the Hima connector.
I am wondering whether or not the Raphael has USB Host functionality? I read this on some internet sites, but searching the Wiki and other avaliable informative websites couldn't bring light to this issue. I know that HTCs ExtUSB only is a proprietary connector, enhancing the USB Port with audio and video functionality. This is not what I'm talking about!
Host USB allows devices to act as an USB host (like a computer) and as such access USB-Devices like harddrives or USB sticks, which is more than convinient. As some other Pocket PC have it, I'm hoping deeply my future playmate has it also.
Maybe some of the lucky users could verify?
Thanks!
Doesn't look like it'll have any host facility no. The only HTC device ive seen with host are the bigger HTC Advantage's which have a normal USB port. I dont think the Qualcomm chipset offers USB host either.
This would be a nice thing to have...
I am still owner of a PocketLoox 720 which is capable of accessing USB sticks and USB HD.
It'd be nice. But I guess it would eat the battery.
I think I saw somewhere a USB bluetooth thingy that enables you to read USB sticks via Bluetooth.
well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).
cmonex said:
well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).
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What an interesting feature... Maybe it's for service centres to unbrick warranty returns easily?
Rory
cmonex said:
well to be precise both the diamond and raphael have some interesting host ability - in SPL you can set usb host to read NBH file off usb. however you need the right adapter cable, so I haven't tried that yet on the diamond (and no raphael yet).
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Have you tried with the Athena USB host cable?
Pantaloonie said:
Have you tried with the Athena USB host cable?
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oh hmm. does that cable plug in the miniusb port of the athena?
cmonex said:
oh hmm. does that cable plug in the miniusb port of the athena?
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Yes it does, I was hoping it would work with the Diamond and Raphael.
Pantaloonie said:
Yes it does, I was hoping it would work with the Diamond and Raphael.
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mm, thought it plugged in the other port on the athena...because it also handles vga out (the 4 in 1 cable). and this other port (beside the miniusb sync port) has the icons vga out and usb host.
that is clearly not the same socket as the miniusb (i.e. the sync port).
the diamond & raphael unfortunately only have this miniusb (which is for the sync on athena).
You're right - It's been so long since I used the USB host on the Athena I'd forgotten which port it uses.
Back to the drawing board on that one I guess.
Pantaloonie said:
You're right - It's been so long since I used the USB host on the Athena I'd forgotten which port it uses.
Back to the drawing board on that one I guess.
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yeah, I also have the 4 in 1 somewhere in the drawer
I only got it to have all cool accessories for my Athena.
anyway, I'll update the thread if I find out more about the cable needed for diamond/raphael
I read in the Diamond service manual (foeund somewhere on the forum here) about using an USB SD-card reader on the sync port on the Diamond. It is used when servicing the phone to upload firmware and test software to the internal storage.
On the picture it looks just like a normal sd card reader that is plugged into a standard USB port on one of the ends on the cable. it is a Y cable where one end is power, one USB and one mini usb to plug in the phone.
I am just doing some tests on this now. I made a usb cable with mini usb in one end and normal usb in the other end. On the on ememstick I have here in the office nothing happens.I will continue to look into this matter.
holy moses. I got something working here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to rebuild my cable a little bit here to get this working.
The new external USB port is now powered from a 5Volts source. I have cut the 5 volts connection between my Diamond and my USB memory.
I am using a standard USB flash memory which i got at some commercial stuff long time ago.
I formatted the USB stick to FAT32 on my computer first.
The thing I tried was:
downloade a custom firmware.
copied the xxx.nbh file to the flash
renamed it to "DIAMIMG.NBH" Capital letters!!
Started up the phone holding VOLUME DOWN and RIGHT button down while giving the power button a short push.
It fired up the Olimex boot scene and asked me to push power button to confirm flashing.
After that it flashed my phone for about 10 minutes (from the USB flash memory)
So there is NO DOUBT, the Diamond has USB master capabilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
Can anyone try to flash a phone with an un signed firmware or a firmware from wrong region on a phone that has the original bootloader using this method?
Does anyone know how to use external memory by usb hosting
zeb crs said:
holy moses. I got something working here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to rebuild my cable a little bit here to get this working.
The new external USB port is now powered from a 5Volts source. I have cut the 5 volts connection between my Diamond and my USB memory.
I am using a standard USB flash memory which i got at some commercial stuff long time ago.
I formatted the USB stick to FAT32 on my computer first.
The thing I tried was:
downloade a custom firmware.
copied the xxx.nbh file to the flash
renamed it to "DIAMIMG.NBH" Capital letters!!
Started up the phone holding VOLUME DOWN and RIGHT button down while giving the power button a short push.
It fired up the Olimex boot scene and asked me to push power button to confirm flashing.
After that it flashed my phone for about 10 minutes (from the USB flash memory)
So there is NO DOUBT, the Diamond has USB master capabilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
Can anyone try to flash a phone with an un signed firmware or a firmware from wrong region on a phone that has the original bootloader using this method?
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heh, you were faster at building the cable congrats.
btw, what special modifications did you need to make? just the 5V source?
anyway, this just confirms what i found in bootloader disassembly then.
not sure on the availability of usb host drivers. maybe we will need to implement it ourselves
and sorry, but i do not understand the question about flashing unsigned stuff. the stock bootloader will not accept unsigned NBH, no matter where it comes from, sorry to disappoint you.
EDIT: I downloaded the service manual now, thanks. wasn't aware this was out in the open
anyway, the text mentions you must plug in AC power for the USB host. what a shame.
zeb crs said:
When I am in file explorer I still can't get in contact with the memory.
Anyone that has the USB drivers from som larger HTC device????
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Just an idea, have you tried to start WM5torage on Diamond ?
It lists the MovieNAND and the system partition. OK, you can't take access to it, but maybe WM5torage recognizes the USB stick from OS.
If it does, maybe a modified version of WM5torage can do these job ?
For short test download here:
WM5torage
Ok, WM5torage isn't the right way to test the access from OS, because it needs at last a running driver.
Qualcomm was running Oxford Semiconductor solutions, maybe the integrated USB OTG is a license from this company ?
@cmonex:
Is it possible to adapt the integrated bootloader driver to WM ?
USB drive is HTC supported
I just read through the US user manual and Section 1.13 Using you Device as a USB Drive. http://member.america.htc.com/downl...al/HTC_Touch_Pro/HTC_Touch_Pro_English_UM.pdf
Quote:
To easily carry media and other files with you, you can use your device’s storage
card as a USB flash drive. Touch Start > Settings > Connections tab > USB to PC
and then select Disk Drive mode. This allows you to copy files from your computer
to the device’s storage card and vice versa faster.
Note You need to have a storage card installed on your device to be able to use your device
as a disk drive.
When Disk Drive mode is used:
You will not be able to use your device to access files from the storage card
or run applications that are installed on the storage card while the device is
connected to your PC.
Your PC will only connect to the device’s storage card. When you access your
device from the PC, you will only see the contents of the device’s storage card.
Remember to change back to ActiveSync mode when you need to synchronize
data between your device and your PC.
USB Host is different.
Mechanicaldan said:
I just read through the US user manual and Section 1.13 Using you Device as a USB Drive. http://member.america.htc.com/downl...al/HTC_Touch_Pro/HTC_Touch_Pro_English_UM.pdf
Quote:
To easily carry media and other files with you, you can use your device’s storage
card as a USB flash drive. Touch Start > Settings > Connections tab > USB to PC
and then select Disk Drive mode. This allows you to copy files from your computer
to the device’s storage card and vice versa faster.
Note You need to have a storage card installed on your device to be able to use your device
as a disk drive.
When Disk Drive mode is used:
You will not be able to use your device to access files from the storage card
or run applications that are installed on the storage card while the device is
connected to your PC.
Your PC will only connect to the device’s storage card. When you access your
device from the PC, you will only see the contents of the device’s storage card.
Remember to change back to ActiveSync mode when you need to synchronize
data between your device and your PC.
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Sorry to dissapoint you, but this is just the other way arround. This enables you to use your phone as a flash drive from a PC. In this thread they want to access a flash drive (USB stick/HD etc) from their phone
Here's a cross post from the Mesmerize thread where I'm not having any luck:
I have a 2.2.1 (rooted) Mesmerize and I can't get it to recognize anything plugged into the Samsung Micro USB to USB Adapter I just bought.
The phone is set to "Mass Storage" for USB and I've tried both USB Debugging on and off.
I can't get it to recognize any of 5 thumb drives that I've tried connecting to it. So either it's a bad cable, or something else in the phone is preventing the connection. Help, please!
EDIT: I'm possibly naive in assuming that this (reading a USB thumb drive from the phone) will work at all, but since they (Samsung) sell the cable and tout it as being capable of it, I must just be missing something such as a setting or the necessary version of Android or a wonderful hack from this group.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
What you are asking for is a USB host function on your phone. As far as I know there is none for the Mesmerize or android. The cable is to connect your device with a pc or other that does have usb host drivers.
there are probably other, better ways of getting extended storage. what exactly are your trying to accomplish?
I just figured it would be cool to read off a thumb drive (or usb card reader set up as a thumb drive with an sd card or micro sd card attached) from my phone. For instance, if I'm out somewhere and I take a picture with my camera and I immediately want to get that picture from the camera to the phone (without using a pc as a bridge)... I could just remove the sd card from the camera, plug it into my card reader, plug my card reader into the micro usb to usb adapter and then plug that into the phone. Whereupon the phone would recognize a thumb drive is attached and let me navigate it the way I navigate the internal micro sd card.
yeah I don't think usb hosting was available until 3.1
I don't even know how easy it is with newer devices.
What about with a custom mod/ROM?
mad towner,
i would like to know how did u root ur phone. i have a tab with same os as yours. but i find it very difficult to root.
thanks in advance.
Hi guys. Is there an app out there that makes it possible to connect an external USB flash drive or 2.5" drive to the shield tab via its USB port?
I'm pretty sure you just do, and you'll be good. Strangely I've never had any problems using an OTG USB drive with the Shield. That's what you'd be looking for, by the way... Am OTG cable.
One quick thing to note is, be prepared to need to power the hard drive. The tablet may not have enough juice to power a full hard drive. So if you plug it in and it isn't recognized, try a powered USB hub.
Secondly, make sure you have ES file explorer.
I use a WD ultra passport portable 1tb drive and a otg cable.
I just plug in, open ES file explorer an get what I need an unmount an disconnect.
You'll lose a few percent of battery potential as expected.
WR
Thanks guys. I'm honestly shocked this actually works. I tried it with my WD passport laptop drive and low and behold it works flawlessly. With the research I did in the past with my HTC EVDO 3D, and reading all the comments on various messageboards, I really thought connecting USB HDDs to any Android device would not work. Does it work in this instance mainly because the device is a Shield Tablet? Or is it only because I'm rooted, and as a result any rooted Android device will allow USB HDDs to be used?
OTG and enough power
It just works if your (android) device has an On the Go (OTG) USB connector AND if it gives enough power to your (hard) drive. If there isn't enough power, you need a Y OTG cable and external power source. Many smartphones do not provide the 500mA at 5V they should provide, but tablets usually give enough from my experience.
Hi, has anybody tried usb otg used with other usb type c phones.
I am wanting to know If anybody has transferred data between usbtype c hard drive and the Honor 8 phone without the need of laptop don't want to buy another hard drive but with type c if it won't work with the phone.
I have no clue why it won't work maybe Honor not put software in for it but just want to see if any body done it if so is it easy what's transfer speed like ..
Etc..
Thanks guys
Yeah,
I had a USB Type-C Male to USB 3.0 Type-A female adapter. Plugged in a USB 3.0 Toshiba Hard Drive and it worked. Notification popped up and I was able to use it in the built in file manager.
Works very well and is very fast as well.
That's good, official support of otg
Muhdol said:
Yeah,
I had a USB Type-C Male to USB 3.0 Type-A female adapter. Plugged in a USB 3.0 Toshiba Hard Drive and it worked. Notification popped up and I was able to use it in the built in file manager.
Works very well and is very fast as well.
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1. Didn't work for me
2. What theme is that?
kingkea said:
1. Didn't work for me
2. What theme is that?
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It's called Material VUi , it's available on the Honor 8's XDA forums under themes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/themes/theme-material-vui-material-design-t3441165
Link to the thread.
Otg works for me plus microsd, awesome
I don't find my self using otg if I had sd card expansion
Honor 8 supports USB OTG.
Refer the document given for further reference on its usage.
Official Honor 8 USB OTG Document Link - https://community.hihonor.com/docs/DOC-1613
Here are some steps you can take to transfer files from your phone to an external device or microSD.
Connect a USB OTG cable to your phone to access data on USB flash drives, card readers and other storage devices.
- Connect your phone to a USB flash drive with a USB OTG cable.
- Touch [click to enlarge] > Local > USB drive to browse data on the flash drive. You can select and copy data to a destination folder. For more information, see Copying, moving, or deleting files.
- When you have finished browsing, touch Settings > Advanced settings > Memory & storage > USB drive > Eject.
Disconnect the USB OTG cable from your phone and the USB flash drive. (NS)
Stock ROM (not rooted): Huawei built-in Files works very well for OTG USB flash drives. However, if you have X-Plore File Manager installed, do NOT accept the message as shown (see he attached), otherwise USB drive will disappear and neither the Huawei's Files nor X-Plore would be able to access the USB drive. If you ignore that message or "Cancel" it, X-Plore would be able to read USB drive but not write to it.
The same here
I wonder if there is any relation between emui5 "android" and the service activation