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Okay, so. Rogers One XL and AT&T One X are basically the same device right? Same essentially all the way through? Would it be super farfetched to think that if one were to take the file that is modified by the HTCdev unlock for the Rogers One XL, and push it to the AT&T One X, that it would unlock it? I'm sure there's something making this completely illogical and impossible but I figured maybe I'd mention it, though I'm sure it's been thought of.
Unless I'm mistaken your unlock is directly related to your phone's iemi number.
I had a feeling that would be the case.
gunnyman said:
Unless I'm mistaken your unlock is directly related to your phone's iemi number.
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I suppose you can't change something like that?
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ECEXCURSION said:
I suppose you can't change something like that?
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No sir.. the unlock code is unique to each device :-\
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I've proposed this several times in the last week or so and nobody has paid attention. I've yet to hear somebody say, for certain, what the unlock code is based on and I'm sure that we haven't fully investigated whether the code is really unique or whether that's just what we have been led to believe.
What we should do is start making a table of numbers (IMEIs, Device ID Tokens, Serial Numbers, Unlock Codes, etc) to see if a pattern emerges. Even if it is based on IMEI numbers, if we figure out how the number is arrived at (could it be as easy as md5(IMEI) or something???), we may be able to bypass HTCDev.
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If I was a betting man I'd say the code is heavily encrypted.
Maybe HTC made it simple and easy for us to crack on purpose because they embrace the android community and despise AT&T as much as we do... Never know till you try.
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One idea that I've had bouncing around is using the onboard storage as a virtual goldcard. Use it to load a phone image that has unlocked bootloader. I have no idea if such a thing is even possible
gunnyman said:
One idea that I've had bouncing around is using the onboard storage as a virtual goldcard. Use it to load a phone image that has unlocked bootloader. I have no idea if such a thing is even possible
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But the gold card needs to be separate from the actual storage and be able to be mounted and unmounted at will like a true gold card I would think]
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If I was a betting man I'd say the code is heavily encrypted.
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Depending on how they encrypted it... it might not be so hard to work around though.
That said - it's probably public key encryption, with the phone having one half of it.
We really should get a couple examples of the inputs and outputs of HTCDev to look at though - you never know! People smarter than me may be able to deduce a pattern.
I'm going to return this phone, how do I relock the bootloader and return to stock? I'm on ATT and have supercid unlock.
Have the same question but I have not unlocked yet. Can I unlock and then return the phone within the 30 day period without any issues? Or should I not even unlock? (sorry for jacking your thread!)
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I'm going to return this phone, how do I relock the bootloader and return to stock? I'm on ATT and have supercid unlock.
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Have the same question but I have not unlocked yet. Can I unlock and then return the phone within the 30 day period without any issues? Or should I not even unlock? (sorry for jacking your thread!)
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There really is nothing you can do to hide your unlock. If you relock the bootloader says relocked, not locked. So even if you lock it you can still tell. Just install one of the stock rooted roms so it looks stock and return it. If your current rom doesnt have any theming just do a factory reset. No one has ever looked at the bootloader when I've returned mine. Or software version..
If you still want to lock it for whatever reason there are multiple threads already concerning this.
Why do you want return if I may ask? Even with its bugs it's the nicest android I've ever used. Lemme guess.. Came from iPhone to android and want to go back sorry to hear that. Really is quite probable that these bugs will be take care of soon. hTC doesn't want to sell buggy stuff, especially their flagship. They will get it right. Mine is damn near perfect with the rom and tweaks I'm using. Can't complain about anything. Runs great.
It will say RELOCKED instead of LOCKED, just an fyi.
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Open command prompt, and locate your adb files [often C:\Android, So you would type, " cd C:\Android " to go there. Or " cd C:\YourFolder\AnotherFolder ", depending on where you have it located.
Boot into your bootloader, and hit the power button once to enter the FastBoot menu. In here, Type " fastboot oem lock " to relock your bootloader.
Caution again though, doing this will appear as RELOCKED and NOT LOCKED.
~http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676101
So you void the Warranty and you want to return.. HAH
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Agree it will say relocked, but to remove that, do RUU and this will disappear, yoou will have out of the box HTC One X.
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It will say RELOCKED instead of LOCKED, just an fyi.
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Open command prompt, and locate your adb files [often C:\Android, So you would type, " cd C:\Android " to go there. Or " cd C:\YourFolder\AnotherFolder ", depending on where you have it located.
Boot into your bootloader, and hit the power button once to enter the FastBoot menu. In here, Type " fastboot oem lock " to relock your bootloader.
Caution again though, doing this will appear as RELOCKED and NOT LOCKED.
~http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676101
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Agree it will say relocked, but to remove that, do RUU and this will disappear, yoou will have out of the box HTC One X.
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No, an RUU flash DOES NOT remove the relocked tag. You cannot get rid of the tag if you have unlocked at this time.
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Agree it will say relocked, but to remove that, do RUU and this will disappear, yoou will have out of the box HTC One X.
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I'm sorry. But that's just wrong. It will say re locked. It won't say tampered but there's no way to get rid of relocked.
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Agree it will say relocked, but to remove that, do RUU and this will disappear, yoou will have out of the box HTC One X.
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No, an RUU flash DOES NOT remove the relocked tag. You cannot get rid of the tag if you have unlocked at this time.
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Correct it will NOT remove relocked. I think he is confused..The ruu will remove "tampered" from bootloader from rooting. not unlocking.
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i have an idea. just take it back to ATT. say i rooted and unlocked this phone to try and fix the problems. that didnt work so i want to return it. That way you are honest about it, if they take it back you're good. A noob salesman wont even understand what you just said and still return it lol. If they say sorry we cant take it back, then keep it like gunnyman does with all of his phones lo l. I mean jesus the nerves of some people "cough cough wink" returning unlocked phones "cough cough choke"
Oh and for the record they've never checked mine when i exchanged it...
lol pot meet kettle
nugzo said:
Why do you want return if I may ask? Even with its bugs it's the nicest android I've ever used. Lemme guess.. Came from iPhone to android and want to go back sorry to hear that. Really is quite probable that these bugs will be take care of soon. hTC doesn't want to sell buggy stuff, especially their flagship. They will get it right. Mine is damn near perfect with the rom and tweaks I'm using. Can't complain about anything. Runs great.
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Awesome phone, absolutely love it but I am currently on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus. I travel quite a bit so I use the hotspot frequently and I thought I could get by on AT&T's "fake 4g" but Verizons network wins hands down.
Its a shame they didn't bring this phone to Verizon.
Nug you're a trip man lmfao
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Awesome phone, absolutely love it but I am currently on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus. I travel quite a bit so I use the hotspot frequently and I thought I could get by on AT&T's "fake 4g" but Verizons network wins hands down.
Its a shame they didn't bring this phone to Verizon.
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I couldnt imagine LTE speeds. Never been to a place that had it. And to be honest i really dont know how it could make things much better. Nothing i do is consuming 3-10Mbps. I know LTE looks good on speedtest but will the phone actually operate better at 15-20Mbps? is it worth the battery drain from LTE? Of course you can download things a lot faster but i really dont download a lot on my phone. I guess it just depends on what you do with it eh? lol. I'm probably forgetting something major that will benifit and imma look like a noob but wth.
I've actually just got back from downtown NYC which has LTE. I use the hotspot all the time because I travel quite a bit so I do my work plus watch netflix so having the bandwith is nice Here is the speeds I got in NYC.
Now usually I get about 2 days of battery life with 4 hours of screen time, while on LTE my battery dropped 60% in about 5 hours
I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?
I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "
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Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol
As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.
According to the LG USA IG account, the bootloader is unlockable. (Except Verizon) No idea of it's going to be like the G5 though. I'd assume it will be, but 7.0 security is a different beast, from what I've read.
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According to the LG USA IG account, the bootloader is unlockable. (Except Verizon) No idea of it's going to be like the G5 though. I'd assume it will be, but 7.0 security is a different beast, from what I've read.
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That check box in Developer Options doesn't guarantee a thing,the dude probably thinks that's all you have to do to bootloader unlock.
It's better than nothing,but,in the context of his statement,it reveals nothing more than that.
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That check box in Developer Options doesn't guarantee a thing,the dude probably thinks that's all you have to do to bootloader unlock.
It's better than nothing,but,in the context of his statement,it reveals nothing more than that.
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Hence the "take it with a grain of salt".
LG unlocked bootloader
If LG is going to unlock the bootloader. It will be listed here soon.
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS#RS00000875
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According to the LG USA IG account, the bootloader is unlockable. (Except Verizon) No idea of it's going to be like the G5 though. I'd assume it will be, but 7.0 security is a different beast, from what I've read.
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Hmm. i noticed that the comment has a "JK" in the picture. is there any term i haven't being aware of that has been given the acronym "JK" regarding android terms? If is used as the usually acronyms used to say "just kidding" then..... LOL we are screwed (if it is a reliable comment). :laugh:
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Hmm. i noticed that the comment has a "JK" in the picture. is there any term i haven't being aware of that has been given the acronym "JK" regarding android terms? If is used as the usually acronyms used to say "just kidding" then..... LOL we are screwed (if it is a reliable comment). :laugh:
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It's the initial of a person who twitted that post.
Verizon sucks, why are they the only one to lock the bootloader.... I was going to get this phone too....
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Verizon sucks, why are they the only one to lock the bootloader.... I was going to get this phone too....
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You got it backwards, the post stated the Verizon model is the only one that will be LOCKED. Read it again.
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We also need required fastboot commands as well, or we have to flash .tot or .dz through LGUP.
Pretty sure all the v10s would let you check the box in developer options. Then when you went to actually unlock only the t-mobile version would actually allow it.
Once t-mobile v10 was updated to mm the unlock still worked but none of the commands to flash were recognized. Therefore the only way to get root on the mm t-mobile v10 is to use lgup with a root injected file. T-Mobile v10 is the only US version that has root + custom recovery.
Would be nice if it's different for V20.... I guess we'll see...
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I hope the bootloader will be unlocked or means to unlock it.
Keep checking LGs website before purchase
So I just picked up a refurbished Sprint v20. It is currently at zv3 so i'll be able to use Dirty Santa. My issue is do I? I know there's no going back since there isnt a factory image for Sprint.
If you've unlocked, are you happy you did so?
Very happy. but im biased since i made it...
Well, I didn't need much convincing. Thanks! Very smooth process, it's really nice to actually have TWRP on a lg phone again. Haven't had that since my LG G2.
yea it was a no brainer for me coming from a sgs7e , i hated the fact i could not do nanddroids or flash custom roms, i love my v20.
Bootloader possibly unlocked
So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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I wouldn't hold my breath, at most they may unlock the sim, the bootloader I doubt it
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Good luck, first time I've ever heard sprint voluntarily unlock a bootloader
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Any news?
Any news?
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Any news?
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
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Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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If it wasn't for antirollback (all other firmware, except the h918 which has a different key so no other variant can flash it, is antirollback 0) you could, but the way it is you'd brick if you forced it on there.
Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
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There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
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What one?
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clsA said:
You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
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It does not have the dual cam, and removable battery like the v20. I have my reasons. Believe me . Only issue is Sprint not being able to root...supposedly. Pro_Granade kinda has my hopes up atm lol