Hi everyone,
My friends who's making a world tour on bike just bought a smartphone to help him in his journey.
The MTT Smart Robust (can't put the exact link but it's easy to find on google)
We added a sim card of 64GB in it and tried to move applications on it because the internal memory is only of 4 GB.
We encountered a surprise when inside the phone there were an internal memory of 2GB, a phone memory of 2GB and the SD card.
And when we try to export the applications they never end up on the SD card.
Can you explain to us how to bypass the phone memory which looks like an other sd card (and act like one since the exportation of the applications ends up on it) ?
Because, we are trying to install application with offline maps and also google traduction offline. 4GB is not enough
Thansk in advance for your answer !
Sorry to up this topic but we could really use some help
Isn't there a way to bypass this intermediate phone memory to use the real sd card to export the applications ?
Thanks in advance.
Why not replace the phone memory with the new sd card, just copy everything on phone memory to the new sd card first...
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Thanks Talsadus, but the phone and internal memory are not accessible. That's the trick.
I don't know what the people who made this phone tried or if it's a normal doing but The only accessible sd card is the one we put. there are no other place. : /
If you go into Settings->Storage can you unmount the Internal SD Card that is acting as external SD Card?
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We just look and there's no button to umount the phone memory which plays as an external sd card.
The phone is not rooted and I kind of don't want to do it because my friend just bought it. (for the warranty)
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I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
vinnyjr said:
I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
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I am just guessing here, but perhaps those apps are going to the extended internal memory? The G2x (like most Androids now with large internal memory) treats 5GB of your internal memory as an SD card at the directory /sdcard. The external card you put in is found at /sdcard/_ExternalSD
My best guess is that your apps are going to the /sdcard which is actually part of your internal memory.
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I am just guessing here, but perhaps those apps are going to the extended internal memory? The G2x (like most Androids now with large internal memory) treats 5GB of your internal memory as an SD card at the directory /sdcard. The external card you put in is found at /sdcard/_ExternalSD
My best guess is that your apps are going to the /sdcard which is actually part of your internal memory.
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You are right, how do I put them on the ext sd card? Do I have to partition the sd card or is there another way, seems the people that don't root there phones must be able to use the ext sd card as well??
Thanks
vinnyjr said:
You are right, how do I put them on the ext sd card? Do I have to partition the sd card or is there another way, seems the people that don't root there phones must be able to use the ext sd card as well??
Thanks
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Sorry, but I can't answer that one yet, I haven't even ordered my G2x yet. I just read about this issue from another thread on this forum because apparently it was the same setup on the Vibrant. Perhaps some Vibrant owners can chime in with a suggestion? Not sure if it's possible to put apps to SD or if they just automatically go to the internal storage. However, if I were you, I'd rather have the apps on internal storage and save the SD for videos, pictures, music, etc. The internal storage will be more reliable (not fail later) and faster than the SD. 5GB should be more than enough space for app storage.
App2sd works. As long as the app supports it. But there really is no need to put them on the external sd right? 5gigs should be plenty. Put your music and vids on the external. Sounds exactly Like my vibrant.
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tsquire99 said:
App2sd works. As long as the app supports it. But there really is no need to put them on the external sd right? 5gigs should be plenty. Put your music and vids on the external. Sounds exactly Like my vibrant.
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Yeah, that's what I meant but I think I used the wrong term. When you use what Froyo calls "Apps to SD" it goes to what the phone calls SD but is actually internal memory. Do you know if there is any way (without root or hacks) to have those Apps to SD actually go to your SD card (/sdcard/_ExternalSD) instead of the internal memory the phone calls the SD?
I agree that the 5GB internal should be more than enough anyway, but I am curious for sure.
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Yeah, that's what I meant but I think I used the wrong term. When you use what Froyo calls "Apps to SD" it goes to what the phone calls SD but is actually internal memory. Do you know if there is any way (without root or hacks) to have those Apps to SD actually go to your SD card (/sdcard/_ExternalSD) instead of the internal memory the phone calls the SD?
I agree that the 5GB internal should be more than enough anyway, but I am curious for sure.
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I just never had that set up before with any of my android phones. I just didn't know how to put any files to the ext sd card, I foolled around with it and basicly I just went into my file manager and long pressed the app of file, copy, went into the extsd card and paste.
Thanks for the help.
I have had the MyTouch 4G and the Nexus One, neither had that set up.
PS this phone flies.
hey guys future g2x owner here, what sd card size does it come with?
bguzmanz2 said:
hey guys future g2x owner here, what sd card size does it come with?
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It doesn't come with any sd card. Supply your own.
i thought the 5 gigs was for storage and the 1.5 was for apps? i'm confused
wow, sweet phone with no sd card or headphones. lame!!
ps, still gonna get it tho =)
crazythunder said:
i thought the 5 gigs was for storage and the 1.5 was for apps? i'm confused
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Yes, this is true. However, from 2.2 up, Android allows you to move apps to the "SD card" (or in this case the 5GB extended internal storage) as long as the developer enabled this feature. This way large games and other such apps don't use up all the storage.
bguzmanz2 said:
wow, sweet phone with no sd card or headphones. lame!!
ps, still gonna get it tho =)
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Not many phones come with an sd card and besides why use their ear buds when you can get a pair of zipbuds from amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Zipbuds-DGA-T...8N9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303274745&sr=8-1
Furthermore it's none of my business and you're free to do as you choose but who sticks their apps on the external sd card? Why do that?
aironeous said:
Not many phones come with an sd card and besides why use their ear buds when you can get a pair of zipbuds from amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Zipbuds-DGA-T...8N9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303274745&sr=8-1
Furthermore it's none of my business and you're free to do as you choose but who sticks their apps on the external sd card? Why do that?
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Having a Nexus One I put most of my Apps on ext 3. Worked great and always had over 140 mb of free memory space which kept my phone very fast.
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vinnyjr said:
I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
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I think the idea is your apps/data go into internal 5GB (which is mounted as SDCARD) and then you use your SDCARD for media (mounted as /SDCARD/_ExternalSD)
yup.. that is right mobilehavoc.
The phone has no "sdcard" when you get it new, but it's got basically 5.35GB internal SD already built in.. So you have plenty of storage, plus you have 1.3GB for apps, and can move them to that 5GB if needed.
Although I just put in my 16GB and tried to titanium restore and it doesn't find anything cuz it's looking in /sdcard and my file is on my sd card, and the g2x has that as /external_sd
that is irritating, will I need to move all the important stuff over, and downloads and pictures n such will all from now on go to the internal 5GB. so move everything over and use actual SD for rest
Hey there, so I'm having a different sd card problem, but I can't find any threads directly related to it so I'm just going to post it here because it seems just as good a place as any.
So yesterday morning, about 3am or so, cause I'm weird like that, I finished the movie I was watching, so I went to go move it off my phone and put another one on, so I hooked up my USB and connected to Ubuntu, the sdcard popped up and I deleted the file, then deleted the trash file but when I delete the trash file I get an error message saying Error removing file: Directory not empty, and no matter what way I try to edit my sd, it won't change, it won't save any new data or delete the old, I've tried reformating with the phone, reformating with ubuntu, I've tried file managers, using a micro to sd conversion chip and putting it in my card reader, but no matter what I try my sd won't change, somebody please help me out, I just got the 16gb card like a month ago, but I bought it in Austria so I can't really return it, because I'm living in Italy.
Thanks in advanced.
Never mind my last post, I did a wipe of my sd card from the phone, pluged it back into ubuntu, and then magically, I could erase all the files.
This setup of this phone's memory is frustrating. I have an app called DroidTV which normally uses the SD card to save videos to, but due to the internal SD card it's getting saved there instead. Is the only way to change this to hope the app developer fixes/changes the way the app behaves? I wish there was an option to make the phone treat the internal SD as the external so you could more easily use your larger card as the default
Dragon509 said:
This setup of this phone's memory is frustrating. I have an app called DroidTV which normally uses the SD card to save videos to, but due to the internal SD card it's getting saved there instead. Is the only way to change this to hope the app developer fixes/changes the way the app behaves? I wish there was an option to make the phone treat the internal SD as the external so you could more easily use your larger card as the default
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See it's really a hard problem to solve. I'm coming from an Incredible which had 8GB of internal storage but it was mounted as /emmc. This meant no app except the custom camera and music apps and maybe one or two apps specially designed by devs could use the internal storage.
The way the G2X does it, all apps can see the internal storage and use it. All media apps can see the external SD as well. But you are right, the dev would need to update the app. Although I don't see why it is so difficult - they could give the user the option to a path so you could put in /sdcard/_ExternalSD/
And that would work.
So apparently Samsung makes the skyrocket think that the usb storage is the sd card. Because of this when i tap to move an app to the sd card it moves it from system storage too usb storage. I am pretty much out of storage internally. Has anyone else had this problem or does anyone know how i can solve the problem.
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So apparently Samsung makes the skyrocket think that the usb storage is the sd card. Because of this when i tap to move an app to the sd card it moves it from system storage too usb storage. I am pretty much out of storage internally. Has anyone else had this problem or does anyone know how i can solve the problem.
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I do not think that Samsung is unique. An external SD card appears as a directory in the external storage. It is rather easy to use this directory to store music, photos and videos. I have many programs and I am nowhere near tapped out in terms of storage. However, I believe that there are a number of solutions that would allow one to move applications to the external-external SD card.
Ya i was wondering if anyone had heard of a way to do this. I havent found anything yet.
If you are rooted you can probably edit the fstab file to switch the mount points of the internal and external memory. This has been done on other devices and a search should point you to directions to accomplish this.
There are negatives and positives to this approach, so read and understand what yoou are doing and the effects it will have before doing it.
I have over 80 apps installed, including two nav programs with offline maps for the US and have 1.5 GB in the user space for ap installs, 9.4 GB in the internal storage, and 11 GB free on a 32 GB external SD card (music files take up most of the used space).
Thank you!
I have HTC sensation 4G. I bought a 16 GB SD micro card and also have an 8GB card. Both my cards are full with videos which I need to access often for my exam purposes. But each time I change the cards, the applications don’t run properly and I have to re install the apps. Also I doubt that frequently changing the SD card would age my phone quicker. Does anyone here have any experience with this? What is the best way to keep swapping sd cards frequently without any hassles?
Are your apps located on the SD Card when you go into Settings > Applications > Apps on SD Card?
If so, move them to internal memory.
switching sd cards very often
Like everyone knows HTC Sensation has a very low internal memory which will not be enough to move all apps to internal memory. Moreover I swap sd cards at least twice a day and I don't want to move apps each time. So is there any way I can just swap SD cads without moving apps to internal memory.
switching sd cards very often
k0zmic said:
Are your apps located on the SD Card when you go into Settings > Applications > Apps on SD Card?
If so, move them to internal memory.
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Like everyone knows HTC Sensation has a very low internal memory which will not be enough to move all apps to internal memory. Moreover I swap sd cards at least twice a day and I don't want to move apps each time. So is there any way I can just swap SD cads without moving apps to internal memory.
Gulfcoastowl said:
Like everyone knows HTC Sensation has a very low internal memory which will not be enough to move all apps to internal memory. Moreover I swap sd cards at least twice a day and I don't want to move apps each time. So is there any way I can just swap SD cads without moving apps to internal memory.
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You must have big apps or a lot of apps! I have around 78 and around 50% remaining. 1GB isn't a lot but it's not 'very low' either IMO.
Gulfcoastowl said:
Like everyone knows HTC Sensation has a very low internal memory which will not be enough to move all apps to internal memory. Moreover I swap sd cards at least twice a day and I don't want to move apps each time. So is there any way I can just swap SD cads without moving apps to internal memory.
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Well without magic, no. You have two options. Apps go to the internal memory, or the SD card. If you can't put them on internal and you take out the SD, then they won't be there.
Possible Solution 1: Remove some apps? I use like 12 third party apps total.
Possible Solution 2: Download a converter such as Mobile Media Converter or SUPER and re-encode the videos at a lower quality - allowing for less storage to be used.
Possible Solution 3: Deal with it.
Move the app data to both of your SD cards.
Get a 32GB card? lol
I used to use an 8GB card, then I bought a 16GB one. I just copy all the data from the old card to the new one, insert it in my phone and all the apps works.
I have lots of games (most of them 3D) so I have to download a lot of Data.I tried to move the apps to the sd, thinking it might free up some memory in my internal memory of only 16GB ( I have 32GB external SD card). I quickly found that they apps are not installed in my external sd card!? They are all in my internal sd card (which I thought as my phone memory). I realized that samsung phones have an sd card inside as their memory, so the system can only move from phone to internal sd card.
I am trying to figure out how to move an app to external sd card.
Anyone has any clue??
I had the same problem, never found a solution...
BUT, just move all your music, videos, and other files to your external sd card and the 16gb internal sd card should be more then enough to have all your 3d games on... thast what i do.
Don't forget, there's still 2gb of nand memory in there that holds all the pre-installed apps plus any that you don't move to sd. Personally I keep all my games and 3d apps on the phone memory (tip here, nand is faster than flash) and all the less critical apps on the sd.
Ok after a lot of research I found out that you can't do it without ROOTING!!
After rooting there are lot of apps which can move your apps to external sd.
I am not going to root so I guess I am stuck ...
Thanks Android for such options
Bikram said:
Ok after a lot of research I found out that you can't do it without ROOTING!!
After rooting there are lot of apps which can move your apps to external sd.
I am not going to root so I guess I am stuck ...
Thanks Android for such options
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Whining like that makes me say get an iPhone sheep
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I have a Kyocera Rise 5156 with on SD card. I am trying to use offline navigation but all apps look for the SD card. I was wondering if there is a way to confuse Android into thinking that there is a SD card.
Thanks.
bandito40 said:
I have a Kyocera Rise 5156 with on SD card. I am trying to use offline navigation but all apps look for the SD card. I was wondering if there is a way to confuse Android into thinking that there is a SD card.
Thanks.
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That's an interesting question.
I had a similar question and I was going to purchase a cable simply to test this theory.
If you have a female micosd cable to connect to the phone with female usb on and connect a usb flash drive it may think the powered usb is a micro sd card
this is a interesting question. never heard anything can do that . maybe a real card would be the best solution
so difficult for me, so i would like to say , use the real card to make your phone believe that:laugh:
What do you mean by a "real card" because the Kyocera Rise does not have a slot for an SD card?
I think i know what he is asking:
Some apps on his phone want his "real" sd card which is insered in his phone. but what he want is that it uses his internal storage.
hope thats right :silly:
Styler911 said:
I think i know what he is asking:
Some apps on his phone want his "real" sd card which is insered in his phone. but what he want is that it uses his internal storage.
hope thats right :silly:
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There is no SD card option so I have to use the internal storage.
The whole purpose for trying to fake a SD card was so I could use an offline navigation. Most require a SD card but I finally managed to find one that doesn't require a SD card. The app is call GPS CoPilot. Tried some of the features. Seems to work fine but still have to try use it on a trip.
If you are rooted perhaps you can simply make a system link from the sd card directory to a folder in which you wish to store the data?
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Some phone you can disable internal memory, like the zte v970, not sure about your phone....
Yeah exactly what I wanted to say. Or, a usb female cable would work.. just a few bucks on eBay.
You can't cheat your device. THIS IS NOT FAIR!
I don't know if it helps but my P3100 has an sd storage eventhough I have not inserted an sd card.
I suppose it's done automatically by the os.
You might want to find out why it needs an SD card in the first place. It could be that it uses the SD card to store all of the maps and data. Therefore, if you "fake" having an SD card, you might be able to use offline navigation, however it would be useless as it would not have any resources to pull the information from.
You can create a new partition and mount that as /mnt/emmc or /mnt/storage1 depending on your android version I suppose
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mount it and with a proper drives