System memory space - Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How many gigs do system apps take in your device? #s6
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About 14gb on the 128gb version

Why does it take up 14GB?

That answer is incorrect, since the phone shows the size of the reserved space for system apps, not the actual space taken. For example I have 6.54 even though I have only 2.1 GB taken. But again it's kind of true, because even it is not used you still can't use that memory.

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whats taking up space?

Is there any app to see what is taking up space on the internal memory? FOr instance, I installed the latest YAHOO MESSENGER AND VIDEO PLUGIN on my EVO (from the marketplace). Both pieces are moved to the SD card YET it is still taking up a HUGE amount of space on the internal memory. I would like to know what is eating the memory (or should I say Storage space)
Thanks...
Titanium backup shows internal and sd card space plus its good to have for flashing roms
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Yes it does and I already have that program.. More what I am looking for is something like what I have on the PC that actually shows me in a bar graph of all the folders and how much space each one takes up and sorts them by what is taking up the largest amount of space.
Get DiskUsage from the market.
dahauss said:
.....YET it is still taking up a HUGE amount of space...
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My balls. 10char

Is there any way to "use" the 8GB internal storage on the D2G?

From Droid Forums:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ion-storage-vs-internal-storage-question.html
The droid 3 has 512 meg ram (random access memory) for running OS and apps being used.
It also has 16 gig of internal storage (basically like an internal sdcard/flash drive).
This 16 gig is divided up in to different pieces, some to store the system (OS) files, some to store your apps that you download. It appears to use a little about 2.5 gig for this.
The rest of the internal storage is mapped as /sdcard (about 11.5 gigs). This is where you store pictures, .mp3s, etc....and where apps you download will store their data (kindle books, launcherpro backups, etc...).
A physical sd-card you install is "extra" space for you to store more pictures and songs and such.
Q1) How is the OS allocating between the 512MB RAM and the 16GB internal storage?
Two different pools.
512MB ram is RAM for the phone's OS and running apps.
16GB internal storage is storage of the system files and apps downloaded.
Q2) Are my applications installed across memory and the storage?
Memory is for running apps
Storage is for storing apps
There is no cross memory usage
Q3) Do I have control of where the apps are stored between the onboard memory and onboard storage?
No. On board memory is not for you to use, it's for the OS and running applications.
On board storage is divided in to sections, some for downloaded apps from the Market and where the system files are and another section for your files (documents, pictures, songs, etc..).
The 1.53GB remaining is the /data mounted partition for apps you get from the Market (or other sources). The 11.35GB is for where you would put pictures, music and such. They are both off the internal 16GB storage just separated in to different partitions. (2gb for /data, 11.35 for /sdcard).
Adding an additional (real) sd-card to the slot will mount as /sdcard-ext giving you more storage for pictures, music and such.
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This question was asked in relation to the Droid 3, and the below answer is awesome, and I get it 100%, But I am wondering: Does this apply to the D2G at all? The 8GB internal storage that it has is massive compared to most phones in the same "class". I bought the phone, assuming, actually, that the 8GB was somewhat useful, but it's only been useful by ensuring I never, ever have to install an app on the sd card.
I have 120 apps, yet, 5.93 of this 8 GB is still available. In other words, NOTHING I ever do will come close to filling it, short of finding a way to put my pics/videos/music there.
It seems the Droid 3 allocates this space logically. But is there a way to make the D2G do it? An app, maybe? Or has it been doing it all along without me even realizing it?
You need to be rooted to be able to use that space.
Gasai Yuno said:
You need to be rooted to be able to use that space.
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I am rooted. Now what?
This requires either adb shell or a terminal.
First, you need to create a new folder for your stuff in /data, and set the permissions for it to 644 sdcard_rw:sdcard_rw.
Second, to be able to access it from your PC (and make the phone scan it for content along with the SD card contents) you will have to bind it to a folder on the SD, using mount's bind option.
I think that the bind mount won't survive reboots, so you'll have to bind it every time you boot your phone (you can always automate it via a script though).

Is there a way to repatriation the SD card?

My one s shows I have a totally of 9.93gb of internal storage. A long way from 16gb. Is it possible to repatriation to gain more space?
Not as of yet. I believe we need S-Off to resize internal partitions. There is a lot of system space and app space that could be gratefully resized and given to sdcard; any bit helps when we only have ~10gb of space max...
Patience, young padawon.
I changed my /data partition to be able to be "READ" by anyone, and I put movies on there since I have like 2 GB free on that. There's also a good couple of GB free on /system but obviously not gonna put stuff on there since it gets deleted whenever a new ROM is flashed.

Internal memory issue: It's full...But there's no way!!!

I just recently tried to upgrade my SynergyROM from r73 to r118 (current). I did the usualy TiBu and CWM backups. Upon attempting to restore apps with TiBu I was having issues, and realized my internal memory is full. There's no way I filled up 16GB.... It's all under "Misc. files" When I click on it, "System memory" sits at 4.05GB and "clockworkmod" sits at 5.70G.
What in the heck is causing CWM to fill up so much??? And what's "system Memory" consist of? Quite vague.
I'd appreciate some help on this. I really don't have THAT much installed, lol. Unless CWM recovery images (Which I have like 7 of) take up 500MB each...Then let me know so I can *facepalm*
Nandroid backups ALWAYS take up a lot of space. I have just one backup (via TWRP) and its sitting pretty at 1.7 GB. Your 5.6 GB looks about right since CWM uses the blobs folder to cut down on total Nandroid space by only backing up files that have changed. 5 CWM backups take up a great deal of space.
Also, check to make sure you completely uninstalled games. I learned the hard way that if you don't uninstall those 1+ gb games, they still take up hard disk space even when you wipe and flash roms. I went searching through I think "/Android/data" to find leftover files from uninstalled games. The second data downloaded once you initially installed the game stays until you actively uninstall.
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Thanks for this, you confirmed my suspicion of the Nandroid backups taking up so much space. I really had no idea they were so large. I deleted most of the old ones I wasn't using and kept a few critical backups. Still having some issues with TiBu skipping 7 items that it coulnd't restore, and system apps erroring out on me. I might need to just go back to what I had.
Weioo said:
Thanks for this, you confirmed my suspicion of the Nandroid backups taking up so much space. I really had no idea they were so large. I deleted most of the old ones I wasn't using and kept a few critical backups. Still having some issues with TiBu skipping 7 items that it coulnd't restore, and system apps erroring out on me. I might need to just go back to what I had.
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Okay, I'm posting here again in extreme frustration.
I deleted most of my Nandroid backups and I'm up to almost 3GB of internal space. I had about 7-8 of them, now down to just 3. However, when I check my "storage" under settings, misc. files take up a total of 8.5GB. When I go inside, TiBu takes up 600mb, while "System memory" takes up a whopping 5GB+.
What in the hell is in the "System Memory" files that takes up 5GB? After ictures, videos, music, it brings me down to 2.8GB internal memory. Though I need to start using my sd-ext for some storage, this is NOT correct!!!
Anybody ever deal with this? I did some Googling and somebody had a similar issue with the Note 2.
Thanks in advance!
Weioo said:
Okay, I'm posting here again in extreme frustration.
I deleted most of my Nandroid backups and I'm up to almost 3GB of internal space. I had about 7-8 of them, now down to just 3. However, when I check my "storage" under settings, misc. files take up a total of 8.5GB. When I go inside, TiBu takes up 600mb, while "System memory" takes up a whopping 5GB+.
What in the hell is in the "System Memory" files that takes up 5GB? After ictures, videos, music, it brings me down to 2.8GB internal memory. Though I need to start using my sd-ext for some storage, this is NOT correct!!!
Anybody ever deal with this? I did some Googling and somebody had a similar issue with the Note 2.
Thanks in advance!
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Did you go into cwm under the backup section and pick to clear needed data(something like that)
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Some quick background... I was running Synergy ROM for GS3 r73 for the last couple months. I wanted to update to Synergy r118 when I came across this. I didn't notice until after I loaded r118 that my memory was so full, and TiBu had issues restoring files due to lack of memory.
kintwofan said:
Did you go into cwm under the backup section and pick to clear needed data(something like that)
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I just "cleared nandroid space" after backing up all my backups to my PC (hmmm, ironic). No dice, still sitting at 3.95GB "System Memory" under settings/storage/Miscellaneous.
If you check your phone, do you get the same? A LARGE amount of data under misc., "system memory?" Mine is 3.95GB + 3.24GB CWM +700MB TiBU + 100MB various other items. This is what the 8.XX GB under miscellaneous storage consists of. I was starting to wonder if "system memory" consisted of all items below it added together, but I do not believe this to be true. If I add up the size of all files under misc., it comes to just over 8GB.
Any suggestions? I really want to know what is in system memory that beefs it up to almost 4 gigs!!! Arg, this is insanely frustrating!!!!!
Weioo said:
Some quick background... I was running Synergy ROM for GS3 r73 for the last couple months. I wanted to update to Synergy r118 when I came across this. I didn't notice until after I loaded r118 that my memory was so full, and TiBu had issues restoring files due to lack of memory.
I just "clearned nandroid space" after backing up all my backups to my PC (hmmm, ironic). No dice, still sitting at 5GB+ "System Memory" under settings/storage/Miscellaneous.
If you check your phone, do you get the same? A LARGE amount of data under misc., "system memory?"
Also, now most of the time I look in this location, "system memory" doesn't even show up, nor does CWM. So it looks like I have a handful of apps installed that vary between a couple KB and 700mb (TiBU).
Any suggestions? Arg, this is insanely frustrating!!!!!
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I'm looking at this and I'm not sure if you realize but that 4-5 gb taken up by System Memory is TW. System Memory = TouchWiz, CPU. This space is always taken up on any device using flash memory.
Quick breakdown using your numbers, since you started with 16 GB internal storage:
*16GB = 11 GB usable, 4-5 (let's say 5GB) GB are dedicated to the System for the OS. You're not getting any of this back unless you're on an AOSP rom.
*so, 11 GB is the "new" starting point.
CWM nandroid = 3 GB
Pics/Vids = 2.8 GB
5GB is roughly the most you should have if you have 0 apps. I'm just using the numbers that you posted previously. If you have a few dozen apps and one or two games, I imagine you should now have probably 3 GB's at most to use of internal storage.
How close am I to what you have as free space? Is my estimation of apps/games taking 3 GB of data correct?
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I'm looking at this and I'm not sure if you realize but that 4-5 gb taken up by System Memory is TW. System Memory = TouchWiz, CPU. This space is always taken up on any device using flash memory.
Quick breakdown using your numbers, since you started with 16 GB internal storage:
*16GB = 11 GB usable, 4-5 (let's say 5GB) GB are dedicated to the System for the OS. You're not getting any of this back unless you're on an AOSP rom.
*so, 11 GB is the "new" starting point.
CWM nandroid = 3 GB
Pics/Vids = 2.8 GB
5GB is roughly the most you should have if you have 0 apps. I'm just using the numbers that you posted previously. If you have a few dozen apps and one or two games, I imagine you should now have probably 3 GB's at most to use of internal storage.
How close am I to what you have as free space? Is my estimation of apps/games taking 3 GB of data correct?
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Ok, wow. I really never figured I'd run out of memory so quick with 16GB. I also didn't realize TW takes up so much space. Thank you for explaining this. Time to move my backups, pics, vids, and apps to the EXT-SD, stat!
Edit: You'll noticed I edited the above right as you were responding to it. I reread it and it seems garbled, lol.
Weioo said:
Ok, wow. I really never figured I'd run out of memory so quick with 16GB. I also didn't realize TW takes up so much space. Thank you for explaining this. Time to move my backups, pics, vids, and apps to the EXT-SD, stat!
Edit: You'll noticed I edited the above right as you were responding to it. I reread it and it seems garbled, lol.
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Ahh, I see the edits now haha it's all good. So is everything squared away now? Out of curiosity, how much free space do you have left on the internal storage?
When you first turn on the 16 GB GSIII, you only have at most 12 GB to use, 4 GB are immediately lost to the system/OS. It's not really JUST TouchWiz taking up space, it's the entire OS and various components that fuel that. The GSIII is marketed at 16 GB but that's never the case with flash memory. Mine shipped with 12 GB readily usable however I caught a good deal on a 32 GB microsd card several months ago and have been fine since.

[Q] 16gb tablet but only 12gb total available space?

Hi,
I have a 16gb tablet but settings only show12gb total available space... is this normal?
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Yes it's normal. I'm not exactly sure why it's like this, but I'm assuming that a portion of the device's flash memory is used for storage of the ROM, cache partition etc. and system apps.
This is however all perfectly normal, nothing wrong with your device
well there's a couple factors like first off it that standard of 1 billion bytes equals a GB when it really doesn't so the 16 is more actually like 14.8-14.9 GB then typically the App storage (approx 2GB sometimes up to 4GB) is separated out from the main storage (doesn't show up when connected to a PC like the rest of the internal storage) and then there is the "invisible" part that actually holds the OS. You should count youself lucky you have 12GB of space on my Razr Maxx out of the supposed 16 GB I have 6.1GB of useable internal storage and 2.7GB of app storage which means my system "invisible" part is taking over 6GB of space.

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