Ok, i have flash BL without knowing the knox counter, now its 0x01... well, my question are:
In future it will be possible a reset?
No warranty?
Will rise again the counter of knox if i flash rom or kerner, or its only for BL?
yonghai94 said:
Ok, i have flash BL without knowing the knox counter, now its 0x01... well, my question are:
In future it will be possible a reset?
No warranty?
Will rise again the counter of knox if i flash rom or kerner, or its only for BL?
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What bootloader?
Where did I you find it?
Knox cannot be reset. With a tripped Knox you cannot use Samsung Pay nor get OTA updates, and also you voided your warranty.
t-shock said:
What bootloader?
Where did I you find it?
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XtreStoLite 2.0 i flash the guide with BL..
roydok said:
Knox cannot be reset. With a tripped Knox you cannot use Samsung Pay nor get OTA updates, and also you voided your warranty.
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So I feeling really nice xD thanks
t-shock said:
What bootloader?
Where did I you find it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-xtrestolite-pure-edition-1-0-beta-1-t3082467
From here, i flash the bootloader...
@yonghai94 Can you send a screenshot?
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@yonghai94 Can you send a screenshot?
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a screenshot with what? when was in odin mode that can see a knox 0x01 or system info?
roydok said:
Knox cannot be reset. With a tripped Knox you cannot use Samsung Pay nor get OTA updates, and also you voided your warranty.
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Thats not true i tripped knox and after i got bored trying out custom Roms put original rom back on and received 5.1.1 update without issue.
roydok said:
Knox cannot be reset. With a tripped Knox you cannot use Samsung Pay nor get OTA updates, and also you voided your warranty.
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1) whether or not Samsung Pay is affected our not hasn't been proven yet. I wouldn't normally use it anyway
2) OTA receipt is no different from any other rooted device, unroot and it should work or just wait for a Rom with the new OTA built in.
3) warranty really depends on what the issue is, if you deal with your wireless provider or have to deal with Samsung and where you are.
It had never been a big deal or a hindrance to me on past devices.
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Knox cannot be reset. With a tripped Knox you cannot use Samsung Pay nor get OTA updates, and also you voided your warranty.
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tripped knox only disables samsung pay you can still get ota's just you need to have unmodifed stock firmware!
Inwould really like to use samsung pay. Is there absolutely no way to reset Knox trip counter? ?
jcorcione said:
Inwould really like to use samsung pay. Is there absolutely no way to reset Knox trip counter? ?
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Currently no.
Dang
jcorcione said:
Dang
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ONLY board hardware replacement will resolve this issue.
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Knox cannot be reset. With a tripped Knox you cannot use Samsung Pay nor get OTA updates, and also you voided your warranty.
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No, that both Samsung Pay and OTA updates won't work not because tripping knox, but because rooted device. Also online bank security keycode apps won't work in a rooted device as Samsung Pay won't, just because pay security reasons. With tripped knox and non rooted device both functionalities should still work.
What won't work with tripped knox (rooted or not rooted) is Samsung My Knox, so you won't be able to use both personal and enterprise enviroment on same device, or you won't be able to use two different whatsapp accounts on same device using My Knox (without need of third party whatsapp clients or swap directories or things like that...).
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jaswinky said:
No, that both Samsung Pay and OTA updates won't work not because tripping knox, but because rooted device. Also online bank security keycode apps won't work in a rooted device as Samsung Pay won't, just because pay security reasons. With tripped knox and non rooted device both functionalities should still work.
What won't work with tripped knox (rooted or not rooted) is Samsung My Knox, so you won't be able to use both personal and enterprise enviroment on same device, or you won't be able to use two different whatsapp accounts on same device using My Knox (without need of third party whatsapp clients or swap directories or things like that...).
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So why does Android pay work then?
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Hi Guys!
(I don't care whole knox thing, even warranty)
Can i still get ota updates if i got knox warranty void 0x1(phone into *samsung*)?
Of course i flashed stock firmware back with odin.
In downloading mode i get
Current Status: Samsung Official
System Status: Official
Knox warranty void: 1 (0*0301)
Knox doesnt affect ota updates. Only root disables ota.
Is it possible to set the code back? Im on 5.1.1
gersp said:
Is it possible to set the code back? Im on 5.1.1
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Absolutely not.
Snowby123 said:
Absolutely not.
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What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
hamstrman said:
What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
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As of now, unfortunately yes. There is no way
hamstrman said:
What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
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Triangle away doenst reset the Knox counter, it resets the flash counter. This is very different.
There is no tool which can reset the Knox counter.
XxM4tzexX said:
Triangle away doenst reset the Knox counter, it resets the flash counter. This is very different.
There is no tool which can reset the Knox counter.
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So the two years that I've had my S5 rooted, my warranty was voided and irreversible? Huh. I've never needed any assistance from Sprint and I'm hoping I won't now. Makes me feel better to know that I'm in no different a position than I have been. I just have to hope my phone works perfectly.
Would that affect my ability to sell my S5 back to Sprint? Sorry if I'm not on this thread's topic exactly... Should I end my line of questioning in this thread?
Just keep flashing the latest updates on your own by getting stock firmware and using Odin, that's what I would do if I ever went back to a non-rooted device - might go back just to try Samsung Pay.
Will root s7 edge without installing twrp trip knox
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haseeb.khld said:
Will root s7 edge without installing twrp trip knox
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It will trip Knox, because you are modifying the system and it doesn't matter it you also flash twrp or not. And once you have rooted your phone, there are no ways to untrip Knox, so you can say goodbye to your warranty.
TheSproker said:
It will trip Knox, because you are modifying the system and it doesn't matter it you also flash twrp or not. And once you have rooted your phone, there are no ways to untrip Knox, so you can say goodbye to your warranty.
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Well i have a rooted S6 and the Knox flag is not triggered (thanks to the leaked samsung service bootloader ).
So there is always hope :fingers-crossed:
clonednull said:
Well i have a rooted S6 and the Knox flag is not triggered (thanks to the leaked samsung service bootloader ).
So there is always hope :fingers-crossed:
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Well, unlike the s6 with the s7 Samsung has done some hard work to keep everything closed source. As of now there is no way to bybass the Knox flag and it is very unlikely that any workaround will be available, because of Samsung's non friendly attitude towards developers.
1. Did anyone try KingRoot and found a working method?
2. Does this trip the Knox Counter as soon as it works?
Both questions are related to the portable version of KingRoot for Android.
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1) no
2) no one used it so they can't say what it does, if anything
Mystixor said:
2. Does this trip the Knox Counter as soon as it works?
Both questions are related to the portable version of KingRoot for Android.
Thanks.
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Any method of rooting this device will trip the Knox counter.
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Any method of rooting this device will trip the Knox counter.
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Really? And I always thought it was due to flashing a new firmware...
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Mystixor said:
Really? And I always thought it was due to flashing a new firmware...
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Nope, flashing new official samsung firmware won't trip Knox.
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Nope, flashing new official samsung firmware won't trip Knox.
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Well what I wanted to stress wasn't that a custom firmware trips Knox but that KingRoot does not flash a new firmware and therefore potentially does not trip Knox. All it uses is an exploit to change some specific root-determining system files.
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Mystixor said:
Well what I wanted to stress wasn't that a custom firmware trips Knox but that KingRoot does not flash a new firmware and therefore potentially does not trip Knox. All it uses is an exploit to change some specific root-determining system files.
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Knox detects if system files are changed, it is simply not possible to change or modify any system files in any way without tripping Knox. So if you managed to use any sort of 3rd party application to root (not possible currently), the application would trip Knox, because it modifies system files.
The Knox security bombproof to the level that a physical fuse is blown inside the phone when Knox is tripped, meaning there is no way to un-trip Knox through software once it's been tripped. It's possible to fool the ROM to think that it's not tripped (like some S8 ported ROMs, to enable secure folder), but warranty can never be restored, as the Knox counter in download mode can't be tricked.
galaxyYtester said:
Knox detects if system files are changed, it is simply not possible to change or modify any system files in any way without tripping Knox. So if you managed to use any sort of 3rd party application to root (not possible currently), the application would trip Knox, because it modifies system.
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It was possible
Kingroot used to work on s6 you could root with knox intact and use all root features only thing that would trip knox was custom recovery and/or rom
Wish it could be done with s8
skinza said:
It was possible
Kingroot used to work on s6 you could root with knox intact and use all root features only thing that would trip knox was custom recovery and/or rom
Wish it could be done with s8
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That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
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That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
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Yep, Knox is totally solid these days. Its impossible to not trip it when rooting. F*** it and root the phone anyway, if it breaks ill claim it on insurance not through warranty.
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That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
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There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
skinza said:
There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
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I didn't mean that, I meant that if you rooted with a method that worked through bootloader (Not kingoroot), you still could restore Knox to not tripped through root tools. Knox security used to be that simple to bypass, nowadays it's impossible to revert once tripped.
Having successfully rooted two HTC devices and a Samsung devices in the past and loved every minute of it, I was kinda excited when Kingroot props said it was possible to root the later Notes... but I never did my old Note 4, partially but not primarily because of the Knox issue.
I've heard different things RE: Knox, pretty much covers what everyone else has been saying here (no way to reset Knox, possible to reset Knox, "soft-root" via Kingroot trips/doesn't trip Knox counter, etc.) Personally, since the Note 4 issue where (correct me if I'm wrong) that Samsung phone was the first one that full rooting was impossible, I've pretty much given up on rooting for a while. Though S8+ may be possible to root (provided you're OK with possibly never resetting Knox), I'm OK with my S8+ non-rooted stock (for now), just like I HAD to be OK with my old Note 4 never being able to be rooted.
I guess my bottom line take on all this is, root at your own risk, know what you're doing, and do it if you can say "Knox be damned" and have no intention of trading the phone back in or reselling it to someone who knows nothing about rooting.
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BereanPK said:
Having successfully rooted two HTC devices and a Samsung devices in the past and loved every minute of it, I was kinda excited when Kingroot props said it was possible to root the later Notes... but I never did my old Note 4, partially but not primarily because of the Knox issue.
I've heard different things RE: Knox, pretty much covers what everyone else has been saying here (no way to reset Knox, possible to reset Knox, "soft-root" via Kingroot trips/doesn't trip Knox counter, etc.) Personally, since the Note 4 issue where (correct me if I'm wrong) that Samsung phone was the first one that full rooting was impossible, I've pretty much given up on rooting for a while. Though S8+ may be possible to root (provided you're OK with possibly never resetting Knox), I'm OK with my S8+ non-rooted stock (for now), just like I HAD to be OK with my old Note 4 never being able to be rooted.
I guess my bottom line take on all this is, root at your own risk, know what you're doing, and do it if you can say "Knox be damned" and have no intention of trading the phone back in or reselling it to someone who knows nothing about rooting.
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Root became possible on note 4 after a program to alter cid to dev version was released. Also because something was possible before shouldn't mean it's possible anymore as things are updated, common sense.
skinza said:
There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
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As I said, it's not possible to root the S8 without tripping Knox. Regardless of how it was with the S6. This is the S8, it's different. It cannot be done.
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As I said, it's not possible to root the S8 without tripping Knox. Regardless of how it was with the S6. This is the S8, it's different. It cannot be done.
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Definitely
Those days are over unless someone gets lucky,i know they wont though just wishful thinking
Well.. Do samsung says knox became bulletproof, or does the best hackers see it that way to?
rk73 said:
Well.. Do samsung says knox became bulletproof, or does the best hackers see it that way to?
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Both sides.
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I am sorry for being dumb by post this questions, I want to root my S7 so i can install costume rooms.
My question is; does rooting can affect my device and make problems?
What is this whole thing about the Samsung Knox?
What is the simple way to flash rom white/out root?
If i want to restore my phone to the stock, it is possible to do it?
And what about the warranty is the warranty will become void?
Thanks in advanced.
rheh104 said:
I am sorry for being dumb by post this questions, I want to root my S7 so i can install costume rooms.
My question is; does rooting can affect my device and make problems?
What is this whole thing about the Samsung Knox?
What is the simple way to flash rom white/out root?
If i want to restore my phone to the stock, it is possible to do it?
And what about the warranty is the warranty will become void?
Thanks in advanced.
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I think about root
U will get a lot of articale on google about
advantage of root and disadvantages of root
About knox
If you root your device, you trip the Knox Warranty bit. Knox services do not run on devices that have tripped the Warranty bit, because this indicates a device is rooted and flashed with an unofficial Android build
But u can flash custom rom without root but when u will flash any custom recovery your will warranty not be valid
And i don't about
Is there any way to revert your warranty of u have triggered knox
But u can easily come to your stock rom
With root or without root
shabbir143 said:
I think about root
U will get a lot of articale on google about
advantage of root and disadvantages of root
About knox
If you root your device, you trip the Knox Warranty bit. Knox services do not run on devices that have tripped the Warranty bit, because this indicates a device is rooted and flashed with an unofficial Android build
But u can flash custom rom without root but when u will flash any custom recovery your will warranty not be valid
And i don't about
Is there any way to revert your warranty of u have triggered knox
But u can easily come to your stock rom
With root or without root
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And if i install rom how to install TWRP whiteout root?
And is it possible to delete TWRP?
rheh104 said:
And if i install rom how to install TWRP whiteout root?
And is it possible to delete TWRP?
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You must use Odin to flash twrp recovery, just watch on YouTube there are many useful videos about it. This is how you root your phone.
Yes it is possible to go back on stock Samsung rom by flashing stock rom from sammobile or updato site. Everything will be as it was before root except your Knox is void 0x1 and u cant use Samsung Pay ect.
Scorpionea said:
You must use Odin to flash twrp recovery, just watch on YouTube there are many useful videos about it. This is how you root your phone.
Yes it is possible to go back on stock Samsung rom by flashing stock rom from sammobile or updato site. Everything will be as it was before root except your Knox is void 0x1 and u cant use Samsung Pay ect.
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Samsung pay is not available in my country so...
rheh104 said:
Samsung pay is not available in my country so...
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So then it's no problem, but be sure to know what u doing . Watch few videos , watch again if u never done this before and you will get there.
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So then it's no problem, but be sure to know what u doing . Watch few videos , watch again if u never done this before and you will get there.
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Thanks for helping me out, one last thing; i have all my images on the samsung cloud and i found this thing: The following Knox services are affected if a Warranty bit is tripped.
Knox Platform for Enterprise
Existing Workspace's are permanently locked and the data is no longer accessible.
New Workspace's can't be created.
Knox Cloud Services
All Knox Cloud services stop working because they rely on a Knox license key to operate – For example, Knox Mobile Enrollment, Knox Configure, and Knox Manage.
Other Secure Samsung services
Samsung E-FOTA stops working.
Unique Knox security features stop working, such as Real Time Kernel Protection (RKP) , or Device Attestation.
Other Samsung Services that require Knox stop working – for example, Samsung Pay and Secure Folder.
If i will root my S7 all photos will be locked or removed?
rheh104 said:
Thanks for helping me out, one last thing; i have all my images on the samsung cloud and i found this thing: The following Knox services are affected if a Warranty bit is tripped.
Knox Platform for Enterprise
Existing Workspace's are permanently locked and the data is no longer accessible.
New Workspace's can't be created.
Knox Cloud Services
All Knox Cloud services stop working because they rely on a Knox license key to operate – For example, Knox Mobile Enrollment, Knox Configure, and Knox Manage.
Other Secure Samsung services
Samsung E-FOTA stops working.
Unique Knox security features stop working, such as Real Time Kernel Protection (RKP) , or Device Attestation.
Other Samsung Services that require Knox stop working – for example, Samsung Pay and Secure Folder.
If i will root my S7 all photos will be locked or removed?
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Hm I really dont know, just tried to search a bit and couldn't find much info . It seems Samsung cloud isn't affected by root.
Personally I dont use Samsung cloud .
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Hm I really dont know, just tried to search a bit and couldn't find much info . It seems Samsung cloud isn't affected by root.
Personally I dont use Samsung cloud .
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Just raed about this knox **** and some people said that they root their devices and the root ruined thiers devices oh **** man it is a big dilemma
rheh104 said:
Just raed about this knox **** and some people said that they root their devices and the root ruined thiers devices oh **** man it is a big dilemma
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Nope ,root will not ruined your device at all. Dunno what u have read but people can make mistakes trying to root it or whatever they trying to do.
Can't help you much then this, it's your call to root it or not
I am unable to create secure folder in my s22 ultra . While I am trying to create secure folder it says "If this keeps happening , contact customer service" . I tested my device via Samsung members app and I noticed something strange . I have attached the screenshot below. I really want to fix this software issue and secure folder . Please anyone help me out. I also tried clean flash via odin . But the issue is same. I formatted the device and restored the OS. But that doesn't help. Please help me out. Thanks .
Is it rooted? Rooting disables Knox, which is what Secure Folder, Samsung Wallet, DeX, and many banking apps require to run or work.
I rooted it earlier but then I removed root and flashed stock firmware . Now my device is not rooted and the bootloader is also locked . And after locking the bootloader , I flashed stock firmware again . But the issue is still same. How can I reflash full stock firmware so that I can enjoy all of the knox essential apps.
Knox is removed and you cant use secure folder anymore.
Is there any way to fix this .? Or , I need to visit customer service .?
arslaankhan said:
Is there any way to fix this .? Or , I need to visit customer service .?
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Once you root, knox tripped forever and some knox apps won't work. Nothing can help but buy a new device/replace mobo
dr.ketan said:
Once you root, knox tripped forever and some knox apps won't work. Nothing can help but buy a new device/replace mobo
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^this^
The efuse is a physical micro fuse that's part of the chipset.
arslaankhan said:
Is there any way to fix this .? Or , I need to visit customer service .?
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Only fix is replacing the phone motherboard...in a service yes
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Only fix is replacing the phone motherboard...in a service yes
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That won't be cheap. Samsung seems to accept knox tripped phones for trade ups though. So best course of action probably is to live with it and wait.
Knox isn't that useful, but having it tripped may skew banking apps... more work arounds to do, or just access banking through the browser which is a better plan anyway.
arslaankhan said:
I rooted it earlier but then I removed root and flashed stock firmware . Now my device is not rooted and the bootloader is also locked . And after locking the bootloader , I flashed stock firmware again . But the issue is still same. How can I reflash full stock firmware so that I can enjoy all of the knox essential apps.
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Rooting trips an "e-fuse" that breaks Knox. Restoring to stock, locking the bootloader, and un-rooting doesn't fix it. As far as I know, once that e-fuse is tripped there is no way to get Knox back short of sending it to Samsung.
You fu##ked your device men. And how can you bring it to customer service if the knox is already tripped
They even not take it for other stuff if knox is tripped and imagine you're going just for knox
Mr Hassan said:
You fu##ked your device men. And how can you bring it to customer service if the knox is already tripped
They even not take it for other stuff if knox is tripped and imagine you're going just for knox
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With a warranty repair of any kind Samsung may charge you to replace the mobo.
However knox being tripped isn't on their trade-in criteria list.
What stops working when knox is tripped.
Download a module to solve the problem that a secure folder cannot be created after root. Support one UI (4.1)
After installation, restart to create a secure folder
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.... Samsung seems to accept knox tripped phones for trade ups though....
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Well in some regions/countries maybe but in others they just started to accept trade in of normal functional devices.
I agree with you...if you did it, at least you did it for a reason so live with it, rooting offers some benefits if you use them.
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Well in some regions/countries maybe but in others they just started to accept trade in of normal functional devices.
I agree with you...if you did it, at least you did it for a reason so live with it, rooting offers some benefits if you use them.
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Agreed, not the end of the world. I run stock N10+'s but don't use any of the knox features, never have.
blackhawk said:
Agreed, not the end of the world. I run stock N10+'s but don't use any of the knox features, never have.
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If you use banking apps, then you are using a Knox feature. Most banking apps rely on Knox for secure banking.
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If you use banking apps, then you are using a Knox feature. Most banking apps rely on Knox for secure banking.
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Not, logon through the browser...
blackhawk said:
Not, logon through the browser...
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You do it through the browser because you think the apps are susceptible to being hacked?
dj24 said:
You do it through the browser because you think the apps are susceptible to being hacked?
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No social media or shopping apps either.
It's loose ends I don't want or need. Small wonder people have trouble with malware/spyware, just look at the junkware they eagerly load themselves.
The browser provides another layer of protection and isolation. The load speed is fast too.
Not working modile