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If I'm not big on flashing roms at the moment, is there any good reason to unlock the bootloader? The only benefit I've read so far is that booting up is a bit faster.
Also, seeing as how rooting and unrooting is pretty easy without the use of odin/flashing, is there a way to re-lock the bootloader without odin (in case an OTA update comes along the way)?
Any OTAs that come along are likely to break the insecure bootloader.
If you ever intend to use custom ROMs I would suggest not accepting any OTAs regardless.
Download ez unlock from the market to lock and re-lock.
dunderball said:
If I'm not big on flashing roms at the moment, is there any good reason to unlock the bootloader? The only benefit I've read so far is that booting up is a bit faster.
Also, seeing as how rooting and unrooting is pretty easy without the use of odin/flashing, is there a way to re-lock the bootloader without odin (in case an OTA update comes along the way)?
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To answer your question, there is no reason unless you want to flash a ROM with a custom kernel (eg CM or AOKP).
You can backup your bootloader and restore using terminal / dd, and I think some of 'one click' tools also are doing this now sounds like.
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So bootloader needs to be unlock more for kernel, right?
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From here on out, i would think that 90% of kernel and rom development will be aimed towards unlocked bootloaders.
download app from market to unlock. One click. Easy!
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djisia87 said:
download app from market to unlock. One click. Easy!
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It even says "that was easy" lol
that was easy
If for no other reason but to tell Verizon FU Icehole's.
Power to the People.:highfive:
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If for no other reason but to tell Verizon FU Icehole's.
Power to the People.:highfive:
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This.
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ExodusC said:
Any OTAs that come along are likely to break the insecure bootloader.
If you ever intend to use custom ROMs I would suggest not accepting any OTAs regardless.
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Wouldn't a person be able to Odin the stock .tar that we have now to overwrite any **** Verizon tries to push on us?
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pyrostic said:
Wouldn't a person be able to Odin the stock .tar that we have now to overwrite any **** Verizon tries to push on us?
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Where is this .tar located?
You have to unlock the bootloader to change boot images... right?
I think Samsung dropped the ball on this one..They should of follow HTC and done a universal world GS4 developer edtion with 64gb+SD card. With bootloader unlocked. And works with LTE ATT and Tmobile also..
who knows that might be in the tow too
Bootloader is always unlocked on Galaxy devices. Rooting is also really easy.
No need for Developer Edition.
MaKTaiL said:
Bootloader is always unlocked on Galaxy devices. Rooting is also really easy.
No need for Developer Edition.
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Developer Edition=get updates quicker than the carrier version+LTE bands for US customers on a global device.
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Bootloader is always unlocked on Galaxy devices. Rooting is also really easy.
No need for Developer Edition.
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Engadget says bootloader is locked. Locked on Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon at the very least. Judging by how Sprint's GS4 has a locked bootloader, I'd be inclined to say that many, many more models are locked out of the box.
Root should be easy but I have a strong feeling that custom ROMs/kernels won't be nearly as easy.
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Engadget says bootloader is locked. Locked on Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon at the very least. Judging by how Sprint's GS4 has a locked bootloader, I'd be inclined to say that many, many more models are locked out of the box.
Root should be easy but I have a strong feeling that custom ROMs/kernels won't be nearly as easy.
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oh dear I hope that's not the case.
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beaver2233 said:
oh dear I hope that's not the case.
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I hope not. I need someone with an international i9500 or i9505 to post an image of their download mode text. If Write Protection is on, word needs to get out fast and devs need to jump on it because we will have a situation like the VZW GS3 on our hands.
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oh dear I hope that's not the case.
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It IS the case. Confirmed repeatedly. Maybe the international versions won't have locked bootloader.
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phositadc said:
It IS the case. Confirmed repeatedly. Maybe the international versions won't have locked bootloader.
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From reading the i9505 model is bootloader locked but the i9500 is unlocked.
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Hey guys huge beginner on this type of stuff. I have one simple question though.
I know there is now a way to Root my phone, but not unlock the bootloader? So I'm wondering, is there any way for me to get a rom that is based off 4.3 at this current moment or am I out of luck?
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Hey guys huge beginner on this type of stuff. I have one simple question though.
I know there is now a way to Root my phone, but not unlock the bootloader? So I'm wondering, is there any way for me to get a rom that is based off 4.3 at this current moment or am I out of luck?
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Yes, you can root your phone. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are two different things. If you're on the latest update, you won't be able to unlock anyway. If your BL isn't unlocked, you won't be able to use any of the 4.3 based ROMs. I don't think there have been any developed for use on SafeStrap.
If your on the new update you can't unlock your bootloader. Which means the best you'll get get is debloated stock roms.
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deeje00 said:
If your on the new update you can't unlock your bootloader. Which means the best you'll get get is debloated stock roms.
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I'm listening....? "debloated stock rom"?
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I'm listening....? "debloated stock rom"?
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Debloated stock just means is the Verizon builds, just with some of the extra software taken out and tweaked. It's not like cyanogen mod which had more options and tweaks. But with a locked bootloader its the best your gonna get.
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clouse2013 said:
Debloated stock just means is the Verizon builds, just with some of the extra software taken out and tweaked. It's not like cyanogen mod which had more options and tweaks. But with a locked bootloader its the best your gonna get.
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However, you can use Xposed Framework to do a lot of modding/tweaking to a stock ROM. I am running a custom ROM, but I still use Xposed for a lot of things. You can theme your stock ROM in ways that are very similar to having a theme manager on AOSP ROMs.
have you verified for sure that you cannot unlock the bootloader? it doesn't hurt to try, unless you already tried.
What version is the build?
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iBolski said:
have you verified for sure that you cannot unlock the bootloader? it doesn't hurt to try, unless you already tried.
What version is the build?
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system version 9.18.79 so i'm assuming it isn't possible
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system version 9.18.79 so i'm assuming it isn't possible
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Yup. That's the version you don't want to see if you haven't unlocked the boot loader.
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iBolski said:
Yup. That's the version you don't want to see if you haven't unlocked the boot loader.
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Unless his BL was unlocked prior to that update.
Oops. Double post for some reason!
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Unless his BL was unlocked prior to that update.
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Which is why I said if you haven't unlocked the bootloader.
Once it's unlocked, it's unlocked. You can't lock it back up because apparently, it's a physical change in the phone, such as a fuse being blown or something like that. At least, that's what I've read. http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
Apparently, it's something Qualcomm has created called a QFuse. These are software programmable fuses that once blown, they can NEVER be put back to their prior state. In Motorola devices, there is a FORCE_TRUSTED_BOOT QFuse. This is all explained by Dan Rosenburg who is the developer that gave us the ability to unlock our Droid RAZR HDs. it's a good read and explains a lot.
Of course, it never hurts to try and unlock it after downgrading back to the previous version.
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Of course, it never hurts to try and unlock it after downgrading back to the previous version.
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doesn't hurt but is 100% pointless, as the system version has nothing to do with the trust zone files that cant be changed back.
the system version serves as a reference point to when it used to be possible in relation to the other files that were irrevocably updated, nothing more.
I'm searching for a Verizon GS3 with an unlocked bootloader. Are all 4.1.2 versions unlocked? What baseband version am I looking for?
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Technically all phones from the factory would be locked. But everything below android version 4.3 can be unlocked. So your options are:
1. A locked phone on a version of android less than 4.3.
2. A device that had beenpreviously unlocked and upgraded to 4.3 with a custom ROM.
4.4 is currently completely locked down.
So basically, if I can find one with 4.1.2, I can upgrade with the MOAR rom to 4.3, and still keep unlocked bootloader? It is based on ml1. I loved that rom with Sprint, and want it again
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burghfan3 said:
So basically, if I can find one with 4.1.2, I can upgrade with the MOAR rom to 4.3, and still keep unlocked bootloader? It is based on ml1. I loved that rom with Sprint, and want it again
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If your bootloader currently unlocked, you could flash any custom rom and you should be fine, just don't ever flash stock 4.3 or 4.4. They will locked you down ....forever..
Sweet. I have a guy checking his other stores for a 4.1.2. He thinks he has a few. I'm gonna trade my GS4 with kitkat straight up. That's how bad I want MOAR. I've been flashing roms with Sprint for over 4 years. This locked bootloader is a new beast to me
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Sweet. I have a guy checking his other stores for a 4.1.2. He thinks he has a few. I'm gonna trade my GS4 with kitkat straight up. That's how bad I want MOAR. I've been flashing roms with Sprint for over 4 years. This locked bootloader is a new beast to me
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Or you could use third party service to unlock(roll back to 4.1.2) for $50.
found downgrade service 24.95 + free shipping
astonmartin214 said:
found downgrade service 24.95 + free shipping
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Who provides the service and how do they do it?
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poppers162 said:
Who provides the service and how do they do it?
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found it on EBay
poppers162 said:
Who provides the service and how do they do it?
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astonmartin214 said:
found it on EBay
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I'm sorry but eBay people come and go, I'd trust mobiletechvideos over some fly by night place on eBay.
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ShapesBlue said:
I'm sorry but eBay people come and go, I'd trust mobiletechvideos over some fly by night place on eBay.
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aight well it's cool I feel why pay more for the same service & it's only 1 person who offers the S3 downgrade on Ebay like the Jtag a lot people on Ebay offer that but only 1 person offers the S3
astonmartin214 said:
aight well it's cool I feel why pay more for the same service & it's only 1 person who offers the S3 downgrade on Ebay like the Jtag a lot people on Ebay offer that but only 1 person offers the S3
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While I certainly agree with you the higher one seems a lot more reliable
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I contacted the guy on ebay. He downgrades the version of android, but can't unlock the bootloader. I figured the only reason to do this was to unlock it. What am I missing?
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I contacted the guy on ebay. He downgrades the version of android, but can't unlock the bootloader. I figured the only reason to do this was to unlock it. What am I missing?
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Then it's not a jtag service plain and simple
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burghfan3 said:
I contacted the guy on ebay. He downgrades the version of android, but can't unlock the bootloader. I figured the only reason to do this was to unlock it. What am I missing?
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look there's no way to unlock the bootloader on kit kat when you downgrade the s3 to 4.1.2 the bootloader becomes unlockable then you can flash ROMS & custom recovery
astonmartin214 said:
look there's no way to unlock the bootloader on kit kat when you downgrade the s3 to 4.1.2 the bootloader becomes unlockable then you can flash ROMS & custom recovery
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With the jtag service through mobiletechvideos they can revert you back to 4.1.2 and at that point you can unlock the bootloader
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I emailed them, and am waiting for a response. If phone is downgraded to 4.1.2, and bootloader becomes unlockable, wouldn't it also be unlockable if downgraded by the other place? Forgive me, I spent my life with Sprint, and didn't have to deal with this stuff. Can android version be downgraded without changing the bootloader? Or can any bootloader be unlocked running 4.1.2?
ask him/her what firmware the phone is on. That will tell you everything. ML1 is what you are looking for. That is the last firmware, we have that's compatible with unlocking.
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ask him/her what firmware the phone is on. That will tell you everything. ML1 is what you are looking for. That is the last firmware, we have that's compatible with unlocking.
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ML1 is 4.3. That firmware is bootloader locked. You're looking for MB1 or MF1 4.1.1 or 4.1.2.
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I emailed them, and am waiting for a response. If phone is downgraded to 4.1.2, and bootloader becomes unlockable, wouldn't it also be unlockable if downgraded by the other place? Forgive me, I spent my life with Sprint, and didn't have to deal with this stuff. Can android version be downgraded without changing the bootloader? Or can any bootloader be unlocked running 4.1.2?
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NO this is only for VZW S3 the other carriers you can flash on KK Verzion locked it from 4.3 & up so to flash ROMS you have to downgrade it or you'll be stuck on TouchWiz yes MobileTech does it they do it for $50 tho
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if i root and unlock my bootloader, will i be able to set it all back to stock without tmobile knowing? sorry if this question has been asked before, just wanna be cautious thanks in advance!
ztotherad said:
if i root and unlock my bootloader, will i be able to set it all back to stock without tmobile knowing? sorry if this question has been asked before, just wanna be cautious thanks in advance!
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Yes. There is an MSM Tool in the guides section of the 7 Pro forums of XDA. there are actually 3, but you're looking for the one to revert back to stock T-Mobile firmware.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...obile-one-plus-7-pro-msm-tool-revert-t3936528
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stmims1124 said:
Yes. There is an MSM Tool in the guides section of the 7 Pro forums of XDA. there are actually 3, but you're looking for the one to revert back to stock T-Mobile firmware.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...obile-one-plus-7-pro-msm-tool-revert-t3936528
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yeah I've been keeping my eye on that ever since i decided that i was going to get this phone lol. i just wasn't sure if it was possible to turn the phone back in without them knowing I've tampered with the phone.
Yep, it's possible to go back to stock. But I've been with T-Mobile for years and have turned in every phone I've had rooted with twrp installed. They've never given me any issues.
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ztotherad said:
yeah I've been keeping my eye on that ever since i decided that i was going to get this phone lol. i just wasn't sure if it was possible to turn the phone back in without them knowing I've tampered with the phone.
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If I recall correctly, it'll even relock the bootloader, though you could just relock it yourself before using the tool to make sure. There's no flags tripped or anything like Samsung's Knox counter.
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Yep, it's possible to go back to stock. But I've been with T-Mobile for years and have turned in every phone I've had rooted with twrp installed. They've never given me any issues.
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I've done this with at least 4 phones and never had an issue either.
No one seems to care/know if the phone is unlocked and/or rooted...
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Yep, it's possible to go back to stock. But I've been with T-Mobile for years and have turned in every phone I've had rooted with twrp installed. They've never given me any issues.
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If I recall correctly, it'll even relock the bootloader, though you could just relock it yourself before using the tool to make sure. There's no flags tripped or anything like Samsung's Knox counter.
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I've done this with at least 4 phones and never had an issue either.
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No one seems to care/know if the phone is unlocked and/or rooted...
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thanks guys! will definitely be looking into getting this thing unlocked and and at least install a kernel on it because why the hell not? lol
Now that's the XDA spirit! Cheers