I don't know if the VZW S5 dev community has realized, but Aroma now works on FF. I'm going to work on adding aroma into my ROM, and hopefully other devs can add it as well
Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
I don't know if the VZW S5 dev community has realized, but Aroma now works on FF. I'm going to work on adding aroma into my ROM, and hopefully other devs can add it as well
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Let me know if it works or how far you get and I will try one too. Do you have one in mind to try?
ProudMarine said:
Let me know if it works or how far you get and I will try one too. Do you have one in mind to try?
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No if you could try an aroma rom for another device that would be gr8
Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
No if you could try an aroma rom for another device that would be gr8
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Please tell me what phone carrier is compatible to ours.
ProudMarine said:
Please tell me what phone carrier is compatible to ours.
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Sprint
Or U.S. Cellular
it doesn't matter if the rom actually works, we just need to know if the aroma installer comes up
Thank you this is great news. I wonder though if this is going to work with the international patch in some way? That is all that has stopped me from figuring it out is the flashfire aroma issue.
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Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
Sprint
Or U.S. Cellular
it doesn't matter if the rom actually works, we just need to know if the aroma installer comes up
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I have flashed Tmo roms and they were fine with the international patch. Of course these were ones without aroma at the time.
Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
Sprint
Or U.S. Cellular
it doesn't matter if the rom actually works, we just need to know if the aroma installer comes up
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I downloaded one from T-mobile with carrier unlock the rom maker said it would work on VZW too. so I am going to install FF v.19 and give it a try.
here is @tp2215 's rom link that i am downloading from. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723915
Edit 1: installing now time: 13:54 est time 13:58 est ff loaded all the white linex then went to a black screen so restarting the phone from pulling battery and restarting the phone now.
Edit 2: reloaded phone normally just fine. No new rom no restore ether. it just loaded with what ever my wife already had on the phone
What?!?!? No way. I thought that it couldn't work because the rom didnt let it access the framebuffer. I'm stoked.
blair.sadewitz said:
What?!?!? No way. I thought that it couldn't work because the rom didnt let it access the framebuffer. I'm stoked.
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according to the flashfire fourm thread, yes it should work
That just made me wonder what else you could do with this beast. Could you have it load an X server? Lol.
Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
according to the flashfire fourm thread, yes it should work
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Sorry guys it dont work
I gotta read up on it. Is flashfire its own operating system? That is a serious question
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Didnt think so
blair.sadewitz said:
That just made me wonder what else you could do with this beast. Could you have it load an X server? Lol.
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maybe we could even run chrome without lag
EDIT: nevermind. That's impossible.
jrkruse said:
Sorry guys it dont work
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Aww man. I saw on the official ff fourm it said it worked
Gonna remove this thread now.
It works on some devices just not ours. I even triedthe latest aroma installer test zip and it just froze up on both flashfire and safestrap
jrkruse said:
It works on some devices just not ours. I even triedthe latest aroma installer test zip and it just froze up on both flashfire and safestrap
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hmmm. trying to think of another way to make a customizable rom installer.
Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
hmmm. trying to think of another way to make a customizable rom installer.
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What we need is a recovery that uses VNC for video, lol. Well, I'm kinda serious. But not really.
blair.sadewitz said:
What we need is a recovery that uses VNC for video, lol. Well, I'm kinda serious. But not really.
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The closest we come is having a barebones rom with flashable zips for options.
Try this ROM with the international rom patch.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23991606952599297
Despite all the macabre artwork, after you get past the boot animation what is impressive is how well it's put together. Seriously. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think so.
blair.sadewitz said:
Try this ROM with the international rom patch.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23991606952599297
Despite all the macabre artwork, after you get past the boot animation what is impressive is how well it's put together. Seriously. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think so.
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Its a nice rom. I tried to do a port to Verizon but the OP would never give me permission
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And it started.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...e-play-edition-samsung-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/
Probably a dumb question, but anybody know a way to force the update? I'd really like to get my phone to 100% stock, official 4.3 firmware.
I wonder how long it takes until there is a pre-rooted flashable ROM available. So glad they are updating this phone quickly.
pauleandro said:
And it started.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...e-play-edition-samsung-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/
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Probably a dumb question, but anybody know a way to force the update? I'd really like to get my phone to 100% stock, official 4.3 firmware.
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I used the trick of clearing Google Application Framework. Worked like a charm! I'm pulling the OTA file now before I update.
Try to pull the zip file if you can. I think you can flash it with the stock recovery.
So I got the update OTA on my T-Mobile GS4 running the rom from this thread.
Anyone know what will happen if I update? I don't know if I'll lose root, recovery, etc.
Sirchuk said:
So I got the update OTA on my T-Mobile GS4 running the rom from this thread.
Anyone know what will happen if I update? I don't know if I'll lose root, recovery, etc.
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If you could upload it to Mega, many of us would appreciate it.
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If you could upload it to Mega, many of us would appreciate it.
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Where would the update be stored on the phone? I doubt it's somewhere easy like Download..
Sirchuk said:
Where would the update be stored on the phone? I doubt it's somewhere easy like Download..
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A quick google seems to point to /cache being its location.
tublah said:
I used the trick of clearing Google Application Framework. Worked like a charm! I'm pulling the OTA file now before I update.
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didn't work for me.
illogic6 said:
If you could upload it to Mega, many of us would appreciate it.
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I've pulled the OTA file and am uploading to MEGA right now.
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A quick google seems to point to /cache being its location.
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I'm a noob when it comes to using command line. I checked the /cache folder after logging into to SU. But not sure where to go from there.
list shows:
lost+found
recovery
and there doesn't appear to be anything in the recovery folder, and not this is in lost+found:
#117121
?! No idea.
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tublah said:
I've pulled the OTA file and am uploading to MEGA right now.
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Glad to hear it! I'll stop trying now before I break something..
4.3 OTA Zip
Here ya go, hot off the presses! https://mega.co.nz/#!F8A12Tra!AuV23h8onysSyzp45M4UZgwORUZNMd1ZeU9CWLV2X6Q
So can this be flashed over top of the current GE ROMs ?
scarmon25 said:
So can this be flashed over top of the current GE ROMs ?
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I am on a Google Edition I9505G, I reverted back to stock recovery and was able to flash this just fine. Your mileage may vary if you do not have a GT-I9505G. It may turn your device into a lawnmower...I just dunno.
I'll inspect when I get home. The ATT and I9505 are pretty much the same. I've been running I9505 GE ROM without issue for a bit while. If its just a kernel and system update then it should be fine. We will see shortly.
Can you still get the OTA if you are rooted? I've cleared Google Service Framework but I'm still not getting it.
Haven't noticed it mentioned on any websites yet, but a notable change is with cover view, we reverted from thin font time to Google favored fat hours & skinny minutes. Yuck.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using xda premium
hmm don't have the balls to put this on my i9505 someone go first
I did, works fine
As of Nov 25, I no longer have a Nexus 7 so this ROM will not be updated
mine
one more
just in case
Stock kernel as well?
PainfulLover said:
Stock kernel as well?
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yes, for now. might either have my own soon or add in one of the others out there
I go out of town one weekend and I get behind. . . awesome Job bro!
anyone using this? any requests for features?
Midnight_Rider said:
anyone using this? any requests for features?
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hmmm requests.. hey Mr DJ can you play this song heard
In my friends car.. all can remember was the word "always"
oh.. Rom requests... maybe a list of compatible mods?
.. I was that DJ... she was asking for section 25 - looking from a hilltop.. don't know how I figured that out in 30 seconds :banghead:
(32G-FLO(wifi)-TapTalk2)
Migamix said:
hmmm requests.. hey Mr DJ can you play this song heard
In my friends car.. all can remember was the word "always"
oh.. Rom requests... maybe a list of compatible mods?
.. I was that DJ... she was asking for section 25 - looking from a hilltop.. don't know how I figured that out in 30 seconds :banghead:
(32G-FLO(wifi)-TapTalk2)
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lol
as far as mods go, this is from the stock firmware so any mods that are being made for the new nexus 7 should work fine (for example the advanced power menu that i added). that goes for kernels too, those are device specific, not rom specific
Midnight_Rider said:
lol
as far as mods go, this is from the stock firmware so any mods that are being made for the new nexus 7 should work fine (for example the advanced power menu that i added). that goes for kernels too, those are device specific, not rom specific
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How about adding Xposed Per-App DPI?
Cubfan99 said:
How about adding Xposed Per-App DPI?
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that might not be doable, Xposed isnt compatible with the new API for 4.3
Midnight_Rider said:
that might not be doable, Xposed isnt compatible with the new API for 4.3
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Sure am missing that.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
Midnight_Rider said:
yes, for now. might either have my own soon or add in one of the others out there
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If you want to have a Kernel in this Jassies is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383361&page=43
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that might not be doable, Xposed isnt compatible with the new API for 4.3
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Xposed works on 4.3. You have to install 2.1.4 then flash a zip in recovery.
I'm not sure if you just missed them or what, but some of the Google apps you said you had removed are still in the zip. Currents, Earth, Ears, Games, and then I stopped looking. It's not a big deal, I'm removing them from the downloaded zip, but I wanted to let you know!
And in advance, thanks for the ROM.
sfreemanoh said:
I'm not sure if you just missed them or what, but some of the Google apps you said you had removed are still in the zip. Currents, Earth, Ears, Games, and then I stopped looking. It's not a big deal, I'm removing them from the downloaded zip, but I wanted to let you know!
And in advance, thanks for the ROM.
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well that's embarrassing LOL i did miss those. wow, that is some oversight on my part. thanks for letting me know. i will clean that up. i was starting a new update anyway...
Midnight_Rider said:
well that's embarrassing LOL i did miss those. wow, that is some oversight on my part. thanks for letting me know. i will clean that up. i was starting a new update anyway...
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Awesome, I'll wait before flashing then (yeah...I'm a serial procrastinator...). Am I right to assume the next version is going to have the new multitouch fix baked in?
sfreemanoh said:
Awesome, I'll wait before flashing then (yeah...I'm a serial procrastinator...). Am I right to assume the next version is going to have the new multitouch fix baked in?
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well this is based on the released firmware, if there is a patch out there for that, i will see if i can get it included, otherwise i will wait for the next firmware update which will probably have it in there.
no my next release would be a couple of mods im working on, which in reality can be zip files to flash so you wont need to reinstall or reflash the whole thing, but will also be added to the rom as well for anyone who has not tried this one yet
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well this is based on the released firmware, if there is a patch out there for that, i will see if i can get it included, otherwise i will wait for the next firmware update which will probably have it in there.
no my next release would be a couple of mods im working on, which in reality can be zip files to flash so you wont need to reinstall or reflash the whole thing, but will also be added to the rom as well for anyone who has not tried this one yet
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Gotcha. Well, the update is included in the latest factory images, so if you're using that, it should be good.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...jwr66y-all-others-now-available-for-download/
But regardless, thanks for what you do!
This is my Sound Mod Thread for S7
This is for Flat and Edge versions.
If your model is not compatible with the mod, upload your stock mixer_gain.xml and mixer_paths.xml located on SYSTEM/ETC and i do a specific mod for your model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/themes/req-dual-speaker-t3339809
We don't have a custom recovery chief. This thing is locked down tight.
Why is this is the Verizon thread? We don't have root or recovery and probably never will.
Lol
We need this mod now that we have root. Still waiting on our version.
Does this work now that we have root?
The guy that made the mod needs to make a version for us. I sent him the required files.
I'll be checking on this thread, I can't get Viper working on the s7.
Sent from my SM-G930V using XDA-Developers mobile app
I really wish someone OTHER than the op can figure out how to make both speakers work. This is the only mod I wanted to root my phone for and the wait is killing me.
Ridl3y said:
I really wish someone OTHER than the op can figure out how to make both speakers work. This is the only mod I wanted to root my phone for and the wait is killing me.
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maybe everyone immediately posting why is this here caused him to stay away for good.
viper should work with some tweaking.. it worked on my s6e on marshmallow
I just wished someone could figure this out. The OP has been MIA for a week now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3289075
Try Viper mod. Working good for me.
Does vipet enable dual speaker mode? That's all I'm looking for.
Blade22222 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3289075
Try Viper mod. Working good for me.
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What'd you use to install the zip?
Installation:
Boot to recovery
Wipe > Advanced > Dalvik Cache, Cache
Install > ViPER|Audio™ OR ViPER|Atmos™ OR ViPER|DD+™
Reboot
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This part.
Ridl3y said:
Does vipet enable dual speaker mode? That's all I'm looking for.
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No dual speaker mode.
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@tygib I used flashfire. You can find it in the play store.
That's a huge shame. I'm surprised no one has been able to figure this out yet. I'd expect the s7 mods to be flying through now that we have root, but it is pretty quiet here.
Yeah I know, no one's even got a rom out yet.
JediDru said:
We don't have a custom recovery chief. This thing is locked down tight.
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ironbesterer said:
Why is this is the Verizon thread? We don't have root or recovery and probably never will.
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Benew0 said:
Lol
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Ridl3y said:
We need this mod now that we have root. Still waiting on our version.
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I read this comments and I think that if I will create a mod for your model or if I prefer to wait to other person to create the mod.
I have created a theath on every s7 model forum and I read a lot of comments like this. I have to say SORRY for open a treath and now you have root and want a mod.
I Think this is not the way and people like " ironbesterer" are the guilty
This is my first BETA for VERIZON S7 AND S7 EDGE
Please, download the two files because i don't have this model and i can't test the mod. Is easy that this beta can bootloop the phone.
If you have problems, flash REVERT TO STOCK and say me the problem please.
Test the beta and say me if dual speaker works and if there is more volume on main speaker.
If i can make a mod for Verizon, in a few days i will upload the mod for all models.
FOR MAKE THE UPDATES EASILY, THE MAIN THEATH IS HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/themes/req-dual-speaker-t3339809
I only see these treath, please, don't comment or request in this treath.
Thanks
I've searched through XDA, trying to find OMS Nougat ROMs. I found ROMs for the LG G3, LG G2, Galaxy S4, Moto G 2015, and Moto X 2014, but all Nougat ROMs I found for the OnePlus One use RRO/some partially broken RRO-CMTE hybrid. How come a phone with the exact same SoC (LG G3) has an OMS Nougat ROM, and even phones as old as the S4 have them, yet all we have are RRO Nougat ROMs?
Did anyone find one, by any chance?
Lirannl said:
I've searched through XDA, trying to find OMS Nougat ROMs. I found ROMs for the LG G3, LG G2, Galaxy S4, Moto G 2015, and Moto X 2014, but all Nougat ROMs I found for the OnePlus One use RRO/some partially broken RRO-CMTE hybrid. How come a phone with the exact same SoC (LG G3) has an OMS Nougat ROM, and even phones as old as the S4 have them, yet all we have are RRO Nougat ROMs?
Did anyone find one, by any chance?
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Here you have: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767098649
fedesandor said:
Here you have: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767098649
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What works, what doesn't, exactly?
Lirannl said:
What works, what doesn't, exactly?
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I dont really know. Now im installing it and tell you
fedesandor said:
I dont really know. Now im installing it and tell you
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Make sure to let me know, I'm curious!
Lirannl said:
Make sure to let me know, I'm curious!
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Not reccomended! lots of force close
fedesandor said:
Not reccomended! lots of force close
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What force closes?
Lirannl said:
What force closes?
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cmte-data services
fedesandor said:
cmte-data services
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Oh, you don't find that obvious? OMS is incompatible with CMTE. I'm going to disable that. Thanks for the warning, though!
fedesandor said:
Here you have: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767098649
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Thats a start... so @koalacancro is the dev? cant find him...any help? wanna try but wanna ensure authenticity
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fedesandor said:
cmte-data services
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meaning its cmte-substratum hybrid and not to be taken lightly.. I bet its in early stage.. so better wait along... Normal AOSP flashing instructions are
Flash rom> and SU> reboot
Flash gapps
Reboot
Can you try that @fedesandor
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Thats a start... so @koalacancro is the dev? cant find him...any help? wanna try but wanna ensure authenticity
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Everything works fine. Cellular network FCS, the only issue as of now.
pa1281 said:
Everything works fine. Cellular network FCS, the only issue as of now.
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how about themes? applyng properly?
maxed4901 said:
how about themes? applyng properly?
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I'm on the OMS build which was posted early today. There is a new build available ,don't know about that . mapgie is working well on my build.
pa1281 said:
I'm on the OMS build which was posted early today. There is a new build available ,don't know about that . mapgie is working well on my build.
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Heres the latest one.. Theres two bulds dated today and this looks like the latest
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767098649
First file was timed 3am and second one at 10am
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Thats a start... so @koalacancro is the dev? cant find him...any help? wanna try but wanna ensure authenticity
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meaning its cmte-substratum hybrid and not to be taken lightly.. I bet its in early stage.. so better wait along... Normal AOSP flashing instructions are
Flash rom> and SU> reboot
Flash gapps
Reboot
Can you try that @fedesandor
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Or, that they've forgotten to take out the CMTE services.
The camera doesn't seem to function, either.
Closed permanently.
Screenshots
Bugs:
1. In call audio is not working yet.
2. No data on Boost Mobile variant, maybe others let me know your carrier/device model and if you have data or not.
3. Video playback isn't working unless you flash the attached zip.
4. You tell me.
A little heads up about no navbar when you first boot this rom. You'll have to go into settings and enable it. I'll get that straightened out asap. Enjoy!
Sent from my Moto E (4) using XDA Labs
Is audio working for phone calls?
KyleBryant said:
Is audio working for phone calls?
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Sorry, not yet.
Sent from my Moto E (4) using XDA Labs
I'm gonna use it anyway because resurrection isn't stable enough yet too many crashes.
KyleBryant said:
I'm gonna use it anyway because resurrection isn't stable enough yet too many crashes.
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This one is pretty solid. Always was on my surnia.
Am I dreaming? Is Christmas here early? ROMs on the E4? Have you any godly powers? This is a dream come true! Before I flash, how stable is this one compared to the others? What works and what doesn't? And finally, what can I do to fix what isn't working?
savagevegeta said:
Am I dreaming? Is Christmas here early? ROMs on the E4? Have you any godly powers? This is a dream come true! Before I flash, how stable is this one compared to the others? What works and what doesn't? And finally, what can I do to fix what isn't working?
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Known bugs are listed above. Some carriers have data some don't. All the roms right now are going to have the same problems. A few things need to be worked on, but over all the roms I've posted are pretty stable.
amarc78 said:
Known bugs are listed above. Some carriers have data some don't. All the roms right now are going to have the same problems. A few things need to be worked on, but over all the roms I've posted are pretty stable.
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I have the Sprint version, do you think that one has any data issues? I'm rarely ever at home so I must know this before I flash considering I use data a lot. If not, any temporary fixes? Thanks!
savagevegeta said:
I have the Sprint version, do you think that one has any data issues? I'm rarely ever at home so I must know this before I flash considering I use data a lot. If not, any temporary fixes? Thanks!
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I'm not sure about Sprint yet, but I think the Boost problem is at least mainly the apns not being correct. I am working on permanent and temporary fixes. If you do decide to flash it, let me know if you have data.
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I'm not sure about Sprint yet, but I think the Boost problem is at least mainly the apns not being correct. I am working on permanent and temporary fixes. If you do decide to flash it, let me know if you have data.
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Alright! If you need any testers, sign me up! I'll flash it as soon as I get home from work. Very hyped!
savagevegeta said:
Alright! If you need any testers, sign me up! I'll flash it as soon as I get home from work. Very hyped!
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Your already a tester. Look at the very bottom of the op, if you see the rom labeled as alpha, testing, or beta rather than stable it probably has some bugs.
Edit: if you really want to be a tester and want to help make things stable, learn how to take proper logs to post when reporting bugs. You can find some info here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...-DPIQFggmMAA&usg=AOvVaw2dZ_hJNSt4D8sxgFatmSvv
There's are plenty of other tutorials floating around also.
i cant get it to boot, it wont let me use su or magisk because it corrupts the boot.img so i boot it without it and it just bootloops for me.
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Your already a tester. Look at the very bottom of the op, if you see the rom labeled as alpha, testing, or beta rather than stable it probably has some bugs.
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That's cool, I didn't know that ? I've always thought "Alpha" was meant as in "final project version" or the complete thing
KyleBryant said:
i cant get it to boot, it wont let me use su or magisk because it corrupts the boot.img so i boot it without it and it just bootloops for me.
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That's strange. I installed that build no problem, that's how I got the screenshots. I'll check it out now.
savagevegeta said:
That's cool, I didn't know that I've always thought "Alpha" was meant as in "final project version" or the complete thing
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha
amarc78 said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha
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Ah, thanks for that. Now I know I was wrong for quite a while ?
I have a zip of the boost apn if it helps the developer. May help, may not. It should be universal, but may need some ROM additions.
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Edit: removed, they don't work here.