How to increase onscreen time? - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I have used apps such as Greenify, Amplify, and Privacy Guard to get great standby time. Anyone know of any tricks to get better onscreen time? I seem to only get maximum 5 hours onscreen time no matter how long my phone is on standby. Any kernel/governor suggestions maybe? I have downclocked already to 1.9ghz. Thanks in advance.

slamdunksaliby said:
Hi I have used apps such as Greenify, Amplify, and Privacy Guard to get great standby time. Anyone know of any tricks to get better onscreen time? I seem to only get maximum 5 hours onscreen time no matter how long my phone is on standby. Any kernel/governor suggestions maybe? I have downclocked already to 1.9ghz. Thanks in advance.
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Sounds like you've already done all the usual things. Five hours SOT is pretty standard.

Heisenberg said:
Sounds like you've already done all the usual things. Five hours SOT is pretty standard.
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Thanks for the response! I have seen people around the forums get 8 hours of onscreen time lol do you think that had to do with further custom kernel optimizations?

slamdunksaliby said:
Thanks for the response! I have seen people around the forums get 8 hours of onscreen time lol do you think that had to do with further custom kernel optimizations?
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I think it has more to do with them not actually using their phones. People skew the results just so it looks like their screen on time is fantastic, but in reality they've just had their phone sitting on a table with the screen on but not being used. Are you on Lollipop or KitKat?

Heisenberg said:
I think it has more to do with them not actually using their phones. People skew the results just so it looks like their screen on time is fantastic, but in reality they've just had their phone sitting on a table with the screen on but not being used. Are you on Lollipop or KitKat?
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Yeah I see what you're saying. I'm in stock CM12S with stock kernel. The governor is currently on interactive, would changing that increase onscreen time at all?

slamdunksaliby said:
Yeah I see what you're saying. I'm in stock CM12S with stock kernel. The governor is currently on interactive, would changing that increase onscreen time at all?
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The governor can play a part in increasing your battery performance, but only a little, interactive is probably a fairly good governor to stick with. You could try conservative but I wouldn't expect a massive difference. KitKat definitely got better battery life than Lollipop, I used to get about 6-7 hours SOT with fairly heavy use on KK, now on Lollipop I average about 5 hours.

Me too...I wonder what causes that 1-2 hour decrease even with the optimizations. Maybe the ART runtime vs the old dalvik on kitkat?

The mobile radio awake issue I think

davebugyi said:
The mobile radio awake issue I think
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Oh yeah good point. Does that battery drain occur only when mobile data is on or all the time?

For me while on mobile data 3-4 hrs SOT, on Wifi is more like 5-6

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[REQ] [Apps] that increase battery life?

Any recommended apps that increase battery life?
So far I only have setCPU.
Locale Beta saves much 12hrs of the day.
pickles said:
Locale Beta saves much 12hrs of the day.
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What??
what does setcpu do? lower cpu clock?
Screebl, Advanced Task Manager, and SecCPU are an awesome battery-saving combination.
zok-star said:
what does setcpu do? lower cpu clock?
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Yes, but the best part is, you can set it to only lower the cpu clock when the phone is asleep (i.e., when the screen is off). Theoretically you could also overclock it when the screen is on, but not yet on the N1. On the G1/Dream, it was awesome--I overclocked when the screen was on, and underclocked when it was off. It saved battery AND made the phone faster at the same time. Here, it does nothing but save battery--a LOT of battery.
I don't have any problems with the battery.... it lasts me an entire day with pretty liberal use.
I just started using juice defender.. but it seems to slow the phone down at times... does anyone know of a similar app that is maybe more efficient
http://www.appbrain.com/app/juicedefender-battery-saver/com.latedroid.juicedefender
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
chowlala said:
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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is it a free app?! OMG!
<3
Power manager and set cpu work for me. Power manager hasn't been updated in a while, but its still works and its pretty easy to use. Alternately, you can use Tasker, it has a high learning curve but once you get it, you'll get an entirely different level of performance from your phone.
carnegie0107 said:
Yes, but the best part is, you can set it to only lower the cpu clock when the phone is asleep (i.e., when the screen is off). Theoretically you could also overclock it when the screen is on, but not yet on the N1. On the G1/Dream, it was awesome--I overclocked when the screen was on, and underclocked when it was off. It saved battery AND made the phone faster at the same time. Here, it does nothing but save battery--a LOT of battery.
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Actually you can overclock n1 when screen is on, it is set at 998 stock, but it can go higher 1113 is stable. But it depends on your kernel. I use 245/652 when screen is off, 384/1036 when on.
N1
chowlala said:
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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ROFL hilarious,
Due to juice defender slowing down my phone, i am going to try green power for a week then juice defender beta for a week and see how they work
juice defender beta seems to work the best
chowlala said:
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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Nice, it's more like a function to do than a app to utilize, fail.

Power Users: Post Your Optimal Setup!

This thread is intended to have power users post their best configurations so as to guide the rookies in optimizing their MXPs once they get unlocked and rooted. It's also intended to compare the best setups for battery, performance, gaming, multitasking, etc.
My main interest is in battery life, although lately I've been on the XDA Labs app like crazy and it's hurting my drain.
Constructive criticism welcome on how to improve the below records!
ROM: Stock MM Canadian
Kernel: Ultra Kernel R3
Governor: Smartmax
Frequencies: 200 big, 800 little
Xposed Framework modules: Force Fast Scroll, Lucky Patcher, GravityBox (duh!), Use USB For Marshmallow, Xposed GEL Settings
Best SOT: 8 hours
Best Drain (100% to 0%): 120 hours
Other miscellaneous tweaks: Shake Flashlight as a system app instead of double-chop (works great, just don't let go)
Launcher: Still figuring that out...but Nova and DarkLauncher are worthy contenders right at the moment
Voice Assist/Google Now on long-press Home: Disabled thanks to @pijes. Settings > Apps > Gear icon > Default Apps > Voice and Assist > None
Post below, power users! What's your best setup so far?
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
ashwath230 said:
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
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Cool man thanks. I'll try the Greenify and DS you recommend. I've seen Greenify a lot around XDA. I'm excited to try it.
Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
xtremeed2705 said:
Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
I'll post my setup. Been using it this way for like 2 weeks so I feel it's stable.
I'm currently running this:
Unlocked BL obviously
Stock Canada firmware (MPD24.65-18)
Rooted
Xposed Framework installed
Squid Kernel r14b
I have gravity box installed and that's really it as far as tweaks and stuff.
Averaging 5 or 6 hours SOT down to about 25% or 30%. Really depends on what I do and what network I use. Performance is great too.
I'm gonna mess around with some of this stuff tonight and see what I can do with it.
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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JohnHorus said:
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
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Hey hey. Thanks for posting!
I'm sure sweep to wake is possible on the phone in some way, likely through a combination of rooting and Xposed modules. I know that GravityBox has a double tap on status bar to sleep feature.
One of the nicest features of the X Play is the Moto Display. It's nice to have the phone screen come.on showing notifications without fully waking the phone. Check out the Moto Display app on the Play Store. It's a totally sexy feature.
I'd say this phone is absolutely worth it for the battery alone. I personally feel the camera to be laggy especially with focus, so consider that if you're a shutterbug. I am very hopeful that software updates will being out the power of the camera but it doesn't have optical image stabilization so blir happens more frequently, at least for me. That could be my shake fingers though.
Feel free to ask any further questions!
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Good stuff. Interactive does appear to handle web pages better. I did a Wikipedia search for The Simpsons and got a huge page. I flicked down to scroll it all at once and then Chrome froze. Hahahaba. Same with Lionfish though. Maybe I'm getting greedy thinking this phone is as powerful as my PC.
Lionfish was giving me great SOT results. Like I mentored in the OP: 8 HOURS! Was so happy to see that. Blew the socks off my Nrxus 4. I average between 6.5 and 8 usually, but WhatsApp and XDA Labs are hurting those scores now.
I haven't had to Greenify any apps yet - I only hsvr geeky ones installed anyway so they never keep the phone awake.
Gopinath15 said:
Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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I think @squid2 deserves a lot of credit for extending the X Play even further. His kernel and work on TWRP make the X Play even more attractive than it is out of the box.
I prefer Ultra kernel personally because I believe the dev for that (@technoander) takes the latest releases of squid's and adds features to them. I may be mistaken but that's my impression. I'll try to clarify and report back. I should do a direct comparison of Ultra and squid's latest to be as objective as is possible with a subjective test. Hahaha.
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
JohnHorus said:
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
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Cool - definitely report back - it would be nice to know if this is embedded in the hardware somewhere. I hope it is, unlike optical.image stabilization. Damn!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
xtremeed2705 said:
Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Row is essentially the best scheduler. Benchmarking is weird, because by design it's an optimized test case and not a use case. Use cases will always be variable, but generally with a smartphone writes aren't too latency-sensitive. That's why Read Over Write generally works the best once your phone is settled, because reading is most of what it does. Doesn't write too often.
There are lots of custom governors, not so many custom schedulers, and lots of suggestions, but generally stock *IS* best, and if you don't understand it, you should not change it. Governors are fun to play with but even they can cause issues if poorly coded. Changing governors will give you a huge impact on battery, but also a relative impact on performance. It all depends on the use context. You'll rarely get much battery life without a performance hit unless you custom-tune settings for your own use context.
As for read-ahead, that value is iconic of exactly what I'm talking about. It is the "chunks" of data that your OS reads in one go. So if it needs 2k, or 2m, it reads a different number of chunks, but each chunk will be the size set by I/O read-ahead. Google likes 512 best. I've been told by the dev for the EX Kernel that internal Motorola devs like 128 best. Benchmarks like the biggest value possible, because they present the OS a massive pile of data and ask it to read it all as fast as possible. In that context, a large chunk size saves time. In most contexts, you read more than you need half the time. So a low value like 128 saves battery and memory.
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kiran91 said:
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
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Android pay does this too, it's a "security" feature built-in by the devs to stop hacking. Not really necessary, but then neither are smartphones, so you take what you can get I guess. No ROM developer can work around this for you. The app is detecting any modification whatsoever. Even root may cause it.
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
Hey @JohnHorus - thanks for your informative post. I'm currently trying Row 128 and will report back but I doubt I'll see any real-world difference in use. Memory and battery are two soft spots for me so I'm hopeful 128 will maintain solid performance.
Looking forward to reading about others' setups!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
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Yeah in my experience it drains the battery more then doing other things for some reason. As you can see in my 9 hrs picture I only used the phone for like 2 minutes lol.

Really odd cpu usage. It's either max or sleep no middle

Kernel auditor says either 1.4GHz or deep sleep. 200MHz-1.2GHz is unused
I've searched the threads far and wide. I've tried 4 different ROMs or kernels. I've used different Gapps. I'm not seeing any excessive wake locks . It does do deep sleep about 40% of the time (when the screen is off)
My phone drains really fast and runs hot. 6 years of Android. Never seen anything like it.
Resolved: it was KLWP for some reason.
lamortcroix said:
Kernel auditor says either 1.4GHz or deep sleep. 200MHz-1.2GHz is unused
I've searched the threads far and wide. I've tried 4 different ROMs or kernels. I've used different Gapps. I'm not seeing any excessive wake locks . It does do deep sleep about 40% of the time (when the screen is off)
My phone drains really fast and runs hot. 6 years of Android. Never seen anything like it.
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this is the result of no hotplugging
WaxysDargle said:
this is the result of no hotplugging
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i run my phone cool without hotplug
its just preference and what works best
HelpMeruth said:
i run my phone cool without hotplug
its just preference and what works best
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yea, i get much better performance without hotplug
obviously less hours on battery but well worth it

Greenify Needed?

I've been using Greenify since I got this awesome phone but I'm not sure if it's actually needed on Oreo and especially considering how efficient Oxygen OS is. Anyone got any facts or observations on if Greenify actually provides any benefits?
gsw5700 said:
I've been using Greenify since I got this awesome phone but I'm not sure if it's actually needed on Oreo and especially considering how efficient Oxygen OS is. Anyone got any facts or observations on if Greenify actually provides any benefits?
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I don't think it's needed. You have direct access to enabling Aggressive Doze (Settings->Battery->Battery Optimizations->[clink on the upper right three dots]->Advanced Optimization). I did this along with other small tweaks and I am now routinely getting 6+ h SOT over 48 hours of stand-by.
ya i uninstalled it because my wake locks are super low and matches screen on unlocks
I stopped using it and now use Amplify instead. Not even sure if that's needed lol my SOT and idle times are pretty great without as well.
Cst79 said:
I don't think it's needed. You have direct access to enabling Aggressive Doze (Settings->Battery->Battery Optimizations->[clink on the upper right three dots]->Advanced Optimization). I did this along with other small tweaks and I am now routinely getting 6+ h SOT over 48 hours of stand-by.
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Wow thanks! Didn't even notice this before.
I use it for snapchat and that's it lmao

ONEPLUS 6 screen resolution

Hello Guys is there any way to change One plus 6 screen resolution like to change it from
1080p to 720p ??
to save battery life..:laugh:
@me said:
Hello Guys is there any way to change One plus 6 screen resolution like to change it from
1080p to 720p ??
to save battery life..:laugh:
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8 hours of screen time already. You want more?
nabbed said:
8 hours of screen time already. You want more?
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I always get 4:30 or at most 5 hours of screen on time!!
how U get 8 !! even 6 is impossible for me
@me said:
I always get 4:30 or at most 5 hours of screen on time!!
how U get 8 !! even 6 is impossible for me
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OxygenOS 9.0.2, and latest blu_spark kernel with blu_schedutil governor, i can go around 9h SOT, but in normal daily usage i get around 5h30 with 36h standby, you gotta watch what's running on your phone
Totone56 said:
OxygenOS 9.0.2, and latest blu_spark kernel with blu_schedutil governor, i can go around 9h SOT, but in normal daily usage i get around 5h30 with 36h standby, you gotta watch what's running on your phone
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Nice :laugh:
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Nice :laugh:
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One thing i saw is you start to get good battery life when you don't think about it anymore Just stock, with maybe a custom kernel (blu_spark and Franco are amazing), and you get very good results !
By the way, regarding your OP, on LG G3, is always used it at 1080p instead of 1440p. It was smoother (the S801 had trouble at this time), but battery was exactly the same ! You shouldn't worry about it, Snapdragon 625 devices drive 1080p without problems.
Totone56 said:
One thing i saw is you start to get good battery life when you don't think about it anymore Just stock, with maybe a custom kernel (blu_spark and Franco are amazing), and you get very good results !
By the way, regarding your OP, on LG G3, is always used it at 1080p instead of 1440p. It was smoother (the S801 had trouble at this time), but battery was exactly the same ! You shouldn't worry about it, Snapdragon 625 devices drive 1080p without problems.
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I agree. When you think about it too much I think you set high expectations and when they are not met, you feel as though your phone has terrible battery life. I used to think 3.5-4 hrs SOT was really bad for a modern phone but that very comfortably gets me through my normal day. So I'm happy with that kind of performance since I charge up once every 18-30 hours.
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daniel4653 said:
I agree. Wheb you think about it too much I think you set high expectations and when they are not met, you feel as though your phone has terrible battery life. I used to think 3.5-4 hrs SOT was really bad for a modern phone but that very comfortably gets me through my normal day. So I'm happy with that kid of performance since I charge up once every 18-30 hours
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Exactly. And tweaking too much sometimes have a negative effect.
And when i forget about it, i find that the battery life is almost always better after 3-4 days on "normal use", and by that i mean not using the phone with battery in mind. Ex : Browsing Facebook for 5mn and killing the app vs using it for 10 or 15mn, answering two emails, and locking the phone ... At the end of the day, the second scenario corresponds to an average of 1h more SOT, but battery is only 3/4% less, so in fact, stats are way better ... Killing apps, underclocking, preventing background activity ... All of this gives more battery in very specific situations, but in normal usage, it kills it (taks take longer, apps refresh with 10x more work when you open them, some like Facebook freak out when restricted by things like Greenify ...).
In short : Let the device do it's thing, maybe just cut things you'll never use or don't want (Bloat, services, ect), maybe switch kernels without tweaking too much, then forget about it.

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