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Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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it is possible, but i don't know what will happened
From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
Heisenberg said:
CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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There's no doubt we'll see the next version after Marshmallow on this phone, but I can guarantee you it won't be in the form of official updates via Cyanogen Inc, it'll be in the form of community developed ROMs via CyanogenMod. If you meant CyanogenMod and not Cyanogen Inc then I misunderstood you.
I just meant Roms in general
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Moto E: cheap budget phone that I think people only bought as a placeholder when they broke a phone or something else happened, it's not a flagship. nobody bought it to use for 2+ years and I don't think it was intended as such.
Moto x: did you see that the pure is getting updated? That means it was the carriers decision, not Motorola's. Also, it's easy to convert the att/Verizon version to the pure version and then you'll get the update fine.
jukiewalsh said:
What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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As soon as Lenovo brought out Pure they let go about 500 Motorola employees, many who were in the dev department... They are giving people hard times about returns saying it will take 6-8 weeks to get their money back on an overnight return label. The pure QC is piss poor, if you go to their forums, their most popular thread is about returning the phone... This clearly isn't the same Motorola we used to love. I'm not big on OnePlus either, I only came back here, because at least I know my OnePlus works, I'll never buy from them again though, that's for sure.
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Here they don't say we will get COS13 but only Oxygen / Hydrogen :
http://www.gadgetlite.in/2015/10/here-is-list-of-devices-getting-android.html#.VhNtuWuBS6F
But since the communication of Cyanogen is not really a "thing" I won't settle for this news
Source has dropped, so we might see devs starting to build soon
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/marshmallow-release
Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
Well i think it will be possible to get a bootable AOSP 6.0 Rom , cause we already had a booting 5.1.51 Rom!
_Beni_ said:
Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
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the radio issues are driving me nuts, no matter what modem i use i still run into issues.
Heisenberg said:
CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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Agreed. Look at when we finally got 5.1.1...SMH
BTW, pretty sure you meant Cyanogen Inc, not CM
nikeman513 said:
Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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The probability is high that we'll get a taste (not likely daily driver level sweet mind you) of Marshmallow by tomorrow:
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Hello everyone,
The Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - International Edition's kernel has been made opensource (The one variant that we thought would never get an opensource kernel has got it, officially ), but I have a few questions :
Q1. Will Cyanogenmod ever come for it, because this phone will never get any version updates form Samsung, unless you buy the S8, S9 etc...etc....
Q2. Does this opensource kernel mean it can be directly used to compile a version of Android N on the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - International Edition, without many hiccups ...... hiccup .
P.S. I do know that TWRP is available for this variant of the Samsung flagship,making it a 2016 developer phone, but is it worth it because the custom ROMs are not out yet to use, if they ever come, that is.
Here's a link to the page from where you can download it's kernel sources :
opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=SM-G935F
Uh... kernel sources (I'm pretty sure) have always been avaliable for the exynos. The problem is exynos is closed source meaning it's harder to develop CM etc for it. This just means we can now have a custom kernel for our custom stock firmwares. I'm new to exynos so I may be wrong. But Sammy always releases kernel sources.
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A lot of parts of a unix kernel are based on open source development covered under GPL license. So every smartphone manufacturer is forced to release Kernel Sources within 90 days. So nothing new here. What kernel devs would need is a more structured, commented and documented code like Qualcomm SoCs get + the huge amount of kernel optimization done at Code Aurora Forums.
Samsung have to release the kernel source, it's part of what allows them to use Android. However, they don't release any more than they absolutely have to. Don't think for a minute this means we're going to end up with a stable release of CM13.
Though hopefully it does mean we should have some decent stock-based kernels soon.
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Beefheart said:
Samsung have to release the kernel source, it's part of what allows them to use Android. However, they don't release any more than they absolutely have to. Don't think for a minute this means we're going to end up with a stable release of CM13.
Though hopefully it does mean we should have some decent stock-based kernels soon.
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Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?
Sport_Boy28 said:
Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?
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There will be custom roms + kernels but there won't be any official support by all the aosp crews... And for most ppl the quality of a phone is more important than dev potential. I like how good development is able to mod or optimize a phone. But buying a worse phone which never can catch up with the best ones even if the whole optimization potential is used only because you could optimize more is not an alternative for a lot of ppl...
Sport_Boy28 said:
Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?
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Same reason they buy iPhone for.
Mix of marketing, product aesthetics, track record, level of grooming etc.
midreestaj said:
Same reason they buy iPhone for.
Mix of marketing, product aesthetics, track record, level of grooming etc.
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Lol or because the stock experience of the phone + stock rom + quality in every aspects is just great... I mean most ppl buy a phone to use it primarily and to mod/optimize it secondarily... For example if sd820 versions bootloader get unlocked sure they will push performance at 20% but it still wouldn't be competitive if it comes to battery life, app launching times and ram bandwidth of exynos...
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Lol or because the stock experience of the phone + stock rom + quality in every aspects is just great... I mean most ppl buy a phone to use it primarily and to mod/optimize it secondarily... For example if sd820 versions bootloader get unlocked sure they will push performance at 20% but it still wouldn't be competitive if it comes to battery life, app launching times and ram bandwidth of exynos...
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Agreed to above.
Stock ROM in my opinion is better over all for an average user (which is 95% of those who have purchased the handset)
Old news here. Been discussed already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/sammobile-samsung-releases-kernel-t3334331
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/reminder-request-source-code-t3326034
CafeKampuchia said:
Old news here. Been discussed already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/sammobile-samsung-releases-kernel-t3334331
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/reminder-request-source-code-t3326034
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As stated allready 2 threads on this we don't need another
My faithful nexus have served me well but it needs to be replaced soon
What phone is the spiritual successor of the nexus line with the following characteristics:
Many developers for the phone. (AOSP port within weeks without official support)
5-6 inch
<500$
Is it correct that most devs wants snapdragon?
I see OnePlus as a candidate, is there more not counting Pixel.
Nothing stands out to me as outstanding this year. I am considering a LG G5
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OnePlus 3 would be your best bet for sure.
I think the Xiaomi 5s is the best option.
I know you're probably dismissing the Pixel because of the price, but it really is a great phone. My sister just got one on Sunday since her S3 died a horrible death (eMMC card gave in for some unknown reason). The ad really wasn't lying with regard to having a great camera and charging extremely quickly (she got it at around 85% battery mid-Sunday and didn't have to charge it until 6 PM on Monday).
Yeah you're stuck in a sort of dead period between now and Mobile World Congress in Feb when the next wave of phone announcements come. As ppl have said, OnePlus3 (or rumoured OnePplus3T is your best bet in the flagship-specs-for-cheap segment. Mi5 or Mi5S would be the other option - maybe slightly prettier but bit more of a hassle to unlock and likely to have less good custom ROM support than the OnePlus.
Other than that wait til Feb/Mar for the next wave. In the meantime you could pick up a low end $150 device (take your pick of the Chinese vendors - I use a RedMi3) to tide you over and then use it as a backup phone?
Thanks for the replies.
I am not in a hurry as my old nexus is working fine
I had a look at mi5 page here at xda and saw that it hasen't got nougat yet so that's disqualifying.
Maybe I should formulate the question as: What brand do you think that CM,AOKP etc. will develop mainly on?
Even i have the same thoughts as yours and this is what I planned to do when im switching my Nexus 5.
- Look for a spiritual replacement: Right now I can only see One plus 3, which gives good hardware and dev support for under $500. Other phones are Axon 7 and Zen Phone Deluxe. They have good hardware but you need to research on the development part. Pixel is a good phone but not worth the price and im against such products.
- Look for a cheaper phone till I find a spiritual replacement: Xiaomi products are really good for $200. If you get bored in a year or so, can replace it with another cheaper phone till you find the replacement. Few Xiaomi phones have AOSP rom's which can be installed. I have not come across any other $200 phone with good hardware and little bit of dev support. One of the phones around $200 is Redmi Note 3. It has a Nougat AOSP ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/red...cyanogenmod-14-0-xiaomi-redmi-note-3-t3459382
johnnydue said:
Thanks for the replies.
I am not in a hurry as my old nexus is working fine
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Oh. If you're not rushing wait til OnePlus4 (or whatever the successor is) launches in spring.
johnnydue said:
Thanks for the replies.
Maybe I should formulate the question as: What brand do you think that CM,AOKP etc. will develop mainly on?
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Pixel will be the leading brand open platforms develop on!
Otherwise OnePlus is probably a good bet. I heard from someone that many googlers use them now for all the reasons discussed above.
Otherwise your best bet for support is the device which has the largest installed base in the non-Chinese speaking world. Largest installed base = more users = (all things equal) more devs. Maybe you can get a Samsung device for cheap!!
Will Custom Roms & Kernels Developed For the OP 6 Be Fully Compatible W/ The OP 6T ?
Will custom roms & kernels developed for the OP 6 be fully compatible with the OP 6T (when it arrives towards the end of the year) ?
Bro, the 6 just launched and isn't even available in hand for consumers till like next week.
If they do the same stuff like the 3 & 3T, 5 and 5T, you would assume there may be cross-device development so long as it's the same SoC, which would likely be the case.
But like, why even ask about the 6T at this moment?
i'm gonna make a wild bet and say there won't be a 6T this year
Expliciate said:
Bro, the 6 just launched and isn't even available in hand for consumers till like next week.
If they do the same stuff like the 3 & 3T, 5 and 5T, you would assume there may be cross-device development so long as it's the same SoC, which would likely be the case.
But like, why even ask about the 6T at this moment?
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I won't be able to afford the OP 6 until September and I guess the OP 6T will launch in October. If most Devs get the OP 6, I assume then they won't get the 6T, therefore I'd rather get the OP 6.
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Unless of course custom roms and kernels were fully compatible between the two , then I'd wait one month until October to get the 6T
masri1987 said:
i'm gonna make a wild bet and say there won't be a 6T this year
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Carl Pei already stated the 6T will come. This article maybe of interest:
http://www.wired.co.uk/article/oneplus-6-launch-interview-carl-pei-android-p-smartphone-innovation
https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-drops-support-devices-inactive-maintainers/
TL;DR:
LineageOS drops official support due to inactive maintainers for Moto X Style/Pure alongside other Motorolas (such as Moto Z2 and G4) and other devices as well (most prominently Galaxy Note 3 and 8, HTC 10, Oneplus X, LG G3, Nexus 7 2013, several LG GPads and the recently released Xiaomi Redmi Note 5).
What do you think about this situation? Is support for our Moto X Style officialy dead?
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MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
Losing LineageOS for it is a great loss! I wish I had more time on my hands to help support this great device.
I use LineageOS in combination with MicroG, so yes! it's a big loss. But I hope I can still use this phone for 2 more years at least. I've planned to get a new mobile contract in 3 months. This time without a smartphone. Next will be a Copperhead Pixel 2 or, if it's available in the future, a Copperhead Pixel 3.
devsk said:
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
Losing LineageOS for it is a great loss! I wish I had more time on my hands to help support this great device.
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TheACBH said:
I use LineageOS in combination with MicroG, so yes! it's a big loss. But I hope I can still use this phone for 2 more years at least. I've planned to get a new mobile contract in 3 months. This time without a smartphone. Next will be a Copperhead Pixel 2 or, if it's available in the future, a Copperhead Pixel 3.
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That's very interesting. I wonder how it is living with a phone with Copperhead OS and/or F-droid apps only.
Some people say that avoiding Google services and using F-droid instead in a standard ROM like Lineage gives you an extra hour of screen on time and improved idle power consumption, but information online is scarce about that particular subject. Most people use F-droid just to avoid Google for privacy reasons.
Considering the phone release date was over 3 years ago, I'm not too surprised that ROM development is tapering off at this point. Many users have switched to new devices. The fact that a reliable battery replacement has been so hard to find until recently helped drive more people away. I can't blame devs for moving on.
Legendary phone stands on its own
Thankfully, the stock Rom on this phone is good enough that there's really no need for these. Still, it's better to have more choices than to have fewer choices, so it will be a bit of a hypothetical bummer to one of the greatest smartphones ever.
Long live the Pure Edition!
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Considering the phone release date was over 3 years ago, I'm not too surprised that ROM development is tapering off at this point. Many users have switched to new devices. The fact that a reliable battery replacement has been so hard to find until recently helped drive more people away. I can't blame devs for moving on.
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Where can I find this reliable battery replacement? Thanks!
RunAway15 said:
Where can I find this reliable battery replacement? Thanks!
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Just go to the Post below for more info. Ifixit is involved with it so I would imagine it is legit. They can sell just the battery or the entire kit.
I personally got mine off ebay and got lucky. 7+ months and still going strong.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...al-oem-battery-replacement-kit-t3857897/page3
So where to download Lineage OS for Moto X Sytle now?
So sad because I wanted to install a custom rom in my moto x pure . Im new to rooting so is there any way to download the rom regardless not having support anymore?
devsk said:
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
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lmao, it never was... Very bad cpu with throttling issues, weak battery, no official batteries for replacement, poor official and unoficial support, poor build quality and no fingerprint scaner lol