I am currently on AT&T using the TILT (WM 6.1).
There are very few things I like about my TILT. However the biggest thing is tethering and using it as a wifi access point - which I enjoy freely.....
It is my preference to stay on AT&T because I would like to keep my TILT as a back up - insert my SIM from whatever new (Android) phone into it to use its tethering and wifi access point ability.
I was interested in the iPhone (4) but because it uses a micro sim, that rules out any degree of cross compatibility I need with my SIM card.
My next move is to change phones to an Android. My case for Android is simple : I need a phone I can set up for both tethering and as a wifi access point. The iPhone allows tethering but at an added price. The iPhone does not allow for wifi access point usage. I am interested in the Samsung Galaxy S. I have some questions:
1. Has anyone been successful in setting up an Android, particularly AT&T Samsung Captivate for tethering and as a wifi access point?
2. I understand AT&T does not allow non-market apps onto the phone. So if you are a Captivate user how can this be accomplished?
3. If you have accomplished this and you are not an AT&T Samsung Captivate user, please tell me what carrier you are with and how you accomplished it.
I am aware of a process called rooting. I am no techie and don't wish to risk bricking my phone. I am also aware that Android 2.2 will provide tethering (or is it wifi access point capability?). Which carrier will allow or support this? Or how can a user enable these features?
Is anyone aware as to which carriers will either allow this or present the least barriers for a users work around?
I am open to switching carriers, but as I said, I do like using my SIM and sticking it back into my TILT to use the tethering or wifi access point if I am not able to use these features in a replacement phone without paying exhorbitant prices. Mind you, I am grandfathered into AT&T's unlimited data plan. The unlimited data plan and wifi access point will be handy when I purchase the iPad or use the phone to allow other devices to connect via wifi.
I used internet connection sharing on my Blackjack a few times. It was a pretty nice option to have. I just bought a Captivate on the 29th and was hopping to find something similar. My assumption is that you will have to root your phone to get by AT&T's road blocks. You will, at the very least, have to get a program to help you side load cause AT&T has blocked that and they have also blocked certain apps from showing up in the market.
I went from the Tilt to the Backflip (which I wouldn't recommend because of so many better Android phones). I also enjoyed the freedom to tether. With an unrooted Android phone using PDAnet (have to have installed on pc & phone) I've been able to tether no problem.
Don't remember off-hand if it shows up in the Market. If not, you'll have to use something like Droid Explorer to install it. Not a hard process, even for a non-techie. HTH
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Yeah, after posting that I did some searching. There is PDAnet and Easytether. AT&T blocks both from the market but you just have to take out your SIM card and then connect to Wi-Fi and they'll show up.
@lillejord. Do I understand you correctly? Even though AT&T may block applications from appearing at the AT&T Android Market, you remove the SIM and then navigate to the AT&T Android Market and - bingo! The otherwise errant applications are available to both download and install?
Can't comment about the US-specific versions of the SGS... I have an SGS I9000 bought in Hong Kong (it's unlocked, unbranded etc)
It is on Android 2.1 (Eclair) and it already has the WiFi AP functionality built in (I've used it... worked fine)... Settings -> Wireless and Network -> Mobile AP settings
As for using it "tethered" (ie. via a USB cable), when you plug it in (assuming you've set the "Ask on connection" option), it gives you 4 options:
- Samsung Kies
- Media Player
- Mass Storage
- PC Internet
The last one lets you use the phone's data connection...
There is also a 3rd option, within the Samsung Kies application, there is a "Tethering" applet, that also lets you use the phone's data connection, but it allows you to configure a whole bunch of stuff and you can create multiple data connection profiles etc...
Not sure exactly how ATT does their data plans between different phones. But isn't the android "specific" plan different than the standard smart phone plan as far as how the phones work and switching sim cards/cost.
I know that when I had my T-mo MDA (HTC Wizard) I could tether (either via usb or bluetooth) and use as a wireless access point), so the Tilt (in theory) should be able to work the same) unless the ATT/their software, crippled it. Once again, not sure how ATT has their network set.
-- Not to go OT from the thread, if so, I apologize.. but I was wondering, if you have a WM powered phone, running Android, does the internet plan change or stay the same/work properly.
To answer your question, using the internet on an Android ROM running on a WinMo phone works properly without the need to manually change any settings. At least it worked for me. I ran Android on my T-Mo US Touch Pro2 and used the web browser with no issues. I can't comment on how/if it would work with another phone/carrier so YMMV.
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I have the HTC G2 Android running on version 2.2 through T-mobil
I used to have cable through COX but discontinued it as I am able to use the phone as a hot spot with tethering. I can connect multiple machines via this hotspot. It is a 4G phone, and runs at 14.4 (mbps I think).
I didn't do anything special to the phone, and the hotpot is a simple selection of the settings.
Hope this helps (Arizona)
search Wifi Tether apk
It need kernel supported. Most of 2.1 kernel not ready.
SIM removal is not needed.
1.Turn off WiFi
2.Turn on Airplane Mode (Turns off SIM id Google allows all apps now at step 3)
3.Turn on WiFi
4.Download At&t banned apps from the Market
Hi all,
I've got an android device without any phone chip or any phone module.
Since this is a weird project I don't know where to post it and I've posted here... I'm sorry if I've chosen the wrong section.
Anyway, my idea is:
USB Internet keys (dongles) should contain a phone module (GSM/UMTS/HSDPA) that is used for estabilishing data connections....
Normally at least 99.9% of the people are using their phones as WiFi HotSpot or as an USB Tethering device without using an USB internet key for connecting to the internet with a SIMCard.
I'm searching infos on doing this weird thing: USB internet key as a phone module
The only thing is that I can't find any info on that and I don't know if USB GSM/UMTS/HSDPA modems are able to work as phones. I mean, they can be connected to a mobile operator without an active connection, so maybe they can be used as phones.
In less words...
Project: USB internet key as a phone for an android device that hasn't got a phone module
Is it possible hardwarewise?
If it is, I'll start the development.
Thanks!
Long Version:
I can only speak for the carriers I have dealt with myself (Sprint, AT&T, Verizon)
But, this is a topic that angered me a while back.
With my Sprint Wireless cards, I used to be able to set laptops up to send and receive faxes with them, and did on a regular basis for about 5 of my end users.
About two years ago, I tried to switch to AT&T thinking everything would be the same. I spent hours and hours trying to figure out why it wouldn't work with the new carrier before I finally threw in the towel and called AT&T tech support. Within seconds I had my answer "we don't support switched calls on data cards". This meaning that no actual calls in or out from the card were possible.
Fast forward a couple weeks, I switched a few users back over to Sprint because they really liked being able to send and receive faxes from anywhere. Low and behold, Sprint has followed suit and disabled the feature also. So I call Verizon to see what their capabilities are, same thing.
So it seems to be the industry standard now (at least in the US) to not allow this type of service anymore. I have no idea why, it honestly seems stupid to me to disable what I consider to be 50% of the functionality of the device/service... But it is what it is.
Short Version:
3G data connection: probably(depending on driver support)
cellular/dial connection: probably not
A couple of days ago, I found that a recent update (or something) seem to stops wifi tethering from working on the rogers captivate, giving me the "tethering is not set up on this account, please contact rogers customer care." message.
SOLUTION:
For those who don't wish to read the details and just want to fix it:
The solution that worked for me was to install titanium backup and remove the "tethering manager" apk.
I'm guessing the tethering manager program somehow got reactivated by a program update (rogers say that they allow tethering on all 1gb+ accounts). I thought this because just before giving me the error message, right after I activated mobile AP, there was a little message at the bottom that said "on tethering authorization.."
It has to be from a recent update (I suspect the rogers myaccount program), because immediately after factory resetting the phone, wifi tethering was once again working. However, after running all market updates, it stopped again. I also tested it out by running market updates on a friend's captivate (who' technologically handicapped and rarely updates anything), which lead to his wifi tethering breaking the same way.
I hope this isn't a ploy by rogers to get more people to buy a rocket stick. When I first discovered that mobile AP tethering wasn't working, I went to the store to check that my account terms hadn't been changed or something. The chap behind the counter told me it was probably due to water damage on my phone.
I know that uninstalling tethering manager isn't anything new, but this appears to be a recent problem as my wifi tethering was working shortly before. I just thought that I would quickly provide a solution for any others in the same specific situation.
Are you running off CM7 or any other custom ROM's?
What kind of data plan do you have?
Lol. This is something we've known about and dealt with since AT&T's official 2.2 came out.
I have distant plans to make a non-commercial app for our company phones but I signed up for a dev account primarily to run other people's code. Specifically I wanted to interop-unlock and setup wifi tethering on a few Focuses since I'm sick of waiting for AT&T. We pay for tethering on our lines and a few guys have been using the corded trick from shortly after launch but its clunky.
Anyway, I've unlocked two phones and setup proper tethering and its great. My question is can I unregister those phones and still have tethering working since its been enabled in the OS instead of being an app? Further, I would like to roll out tethering to all of our phones by unlocking, enabling it, and unregistering the phone immediately after. Would there any problems with this plan? Thanks in advance.
Your plan should work. The registration (dev-unlock) is required in order to install the apps that do the provisioning for Internet sharing. Once provisionined, though, it doesn't matter anymore. If you can safely delete the app and the feature keeps working, then you can almost certainly safely de-register the phones and it will keep working.
Just an FYI, this appears to work just fine. I unregistered one of the phones and it can still be used for wifi tethering. I'll update this thread if I learn otherwise as I roll out wifi tethering to all of the Focuses on our account.
So I ran into a bit of a snag... After unlocking and re-locking my 3rd phone I went back to my personal phone to unlock it again because I found some other homebrew things I wanted to try (specifically Advanced Config 1.4)... Unfortunately I'm getting the dreaded 0x64 error when I try to do so. I thought about trying to unlock a virgin phone first but it sounds like the only way I can unlock mine again at this point is to do a full reset on it - but I don't want to do that without making sure that the 3 phone limit isn't the problem (current my app hub shows NO registered devices).
Shouldn't I be able to unlock the same phone again? I didn't click any of the "prevent re-lock" options in the tools I used for the Interop unlock or the tethering setup...
Video instructions are linked below.**
Hey, everyone! I just wanted to share something that I figured out when I was trying to enable my WiFi hotspot on my S8. First of all, I have an AT&T Galaxy S8 (G950U) with Unlimited Data, and my hotspot doesn't typically work at all. When I try to enable it normally, it has to "verify," then it tells me I need to subscribe. However, while playing around with Package Disabler Pro and the hotspot, I figured out how to get the hotspot turned on (running off of unlimited data) without root or any sort of complex workaround. The only things you'll need are a $2 app, ANY WiFi source (even locked), and a supported carrier on your S8 (AT&T, Verizon, and others). Here the steps to get it up and running:
1) Download Package Disabler Pro (by policedeveloper), get it up and running, and search for "tether" in the seach box
2) Three options should pop up ("TetheringProvision", "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice"). Disable all three packages.
3) Go to your Mobile Hotspot settings and make sure WiFi Sharing is turned ON. Very important.
4) Go to your WiFi Settings and connect to any WiFi network near you, but PURPOSELY put in the wrong WiFi password. It will try to connect for a short time, so you need to be quick on the next step.
5) Quickly enable your mobile hotspot while the phone is still trying to connect to the network with the wrong password. After the hotspot turns on, quickly turn off your WiFi. The hotspot will stay on and continue to run off of your unlimited data!
I actually tested this last year on the Galaxy S7 edge on AT&T, so it works on there as well! I've uploaded the following videos to YouTube as well for the S7 and S8 respectively, so if this helped you, be sure to go click on some ads on my YouTube videos! It helps me out lol.
**S7 edge video: https://youtu.be/w3usivgCFSc
**S8 video: https://youtu.be/f8n6-ZrdIQg
It's worth noting that I'm actually not sure how many carriers this works on. I know it doesn't work on Sprint, but lately it actually started working on Verizon too. I've had some people tell me that it works on other smaller carriers as well, but if it works for you in a different carrier leave a comment below so I can see how many it works on please!
Not seemingly working for sprint. No matter how fast I swap to disable the wifi, if the wifi is disconnected, hotspot it turned off.
druep said:
Not seemingly working for sprint. No matter how fast I swap to disable the wifi, if the wifi is disconnected, hotspot it turned off.
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Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042
ldog3211 said:
Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042
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Actually, you could also try downloading the Galaxy Tools app, check "enable hotspot", and then reboot your phone. Basically works the same way I think but it's automatic:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/afvzbs5w752yp4p/GTv3.1.5.apk?dl=0
ldog3211 said:
Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042
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In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.
These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.
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In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.
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Oh, I see. That sucks! I don't have a Sprint Galaxy phone, so I can't test anything out, but I wonder if it's still possible through that different search string. I don't really know how any of that works though. What I really wish would happen is for Samsung to actually stand up to these carriers and not keep taking their BS. However, even Apple, as great as they are at this, blocks the hotspot on certain iPhones depending on the carrier and plan...
peachpuff said:
These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.
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Yes tf they do. Samsung needs to learn from Apple and stop taking the carriers' BS. That right there would solve a problem a lot of people have with Samsung, but of course they're not going to stop.
druep said:
In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.
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U r correct, the ltefunctionality is the place for editing the apns. Search the sprint thread as this method has been posted several times using quickshortcut maker app and searching test to find the directory. Click try then look for lteapn settings and add dun to the default,mms. It should look like the following.... deault,mms,dun
Any prl or profile updates along with android os updates will undo this. So each time any of those update redo the above steps. I'm on 10gb hotspot and have used it for 3 weeks last month with Bill showing no hotspot data used. I'm on sprint
You should've bought an unlocked S8. I have unlimited data on AT&T with an unlocked S8 and the hotspot works just fine.
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These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.
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I never run out of reasons to ensure any phone I buy has root.
Does this method show as you using hot spot and they charge you for using it? I have the unlimited data plan but I am not paying the extra for the hotspot feature because I think it is dumb and should be free anyways as a feature of the phone so I refuse to pay for that service. I have ATT.
chase10784 said:
Does this method show as you using hot spot and they charge you for using it? I have the unlimited data plan but I am not paying the extra for the hotspot feature because I think it is dumb and should be free anyways as a feature of the phone so I refuse to pay for that service. I have ATT.
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Nope! I've been doing this for over a year now, and I've never gotten any notice, warning, or anything from AT&T. I use AT LEAST 100GB of data every month, and several months I've used over 200GB. They haven't charged me a dime even though I'm not supposed to have the hotspot with my unlimited data plan! And I don't use a VPN or anything...
ldog3211 said:
Nope! I've been doing this for over a year now, and I've never gotten any notice, warning, or anything from AT&T. I use AT LEAST 100GB of data every month, and several months I've used over 200GB. They haven't charged me a dime even though I'm not supposed to have the hotspot with my unlimited data plan! And I don't use a VPN or anything...
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Well cool. I got it to work. I haven't had much time to test it but it seems great.
On Verizon s8 anyone figure out how to get this working. Can't find app "TetheringProvision" or anything similar to disable on my VZ s8 phone.
I found "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice" and disabled. It still checks subscription and fails.
Thanks!
Solution: Switch to Tmobile
Yianaki said:
On Verizon s8 anyone figure out how to get this working. Can't find app "TetheringProvision" or anything similar to disable on my VZ s8 phone.
I found "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice" and disabled. It still checks subscription and fails.
Thanks!
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You can get your hotspot working by popping sim tray, unlock phone, open up stopwatch, insert sim tray and start stopwatch at the same time, when the stopwatch hits 8 seconds turn on hotspot from the pull down menu.
I know it takes some work but works every time for me. I will try to post a video for anyone who wants. Working on my verizon s8+. Thanks!
jtracker said:
You can get your hotspot working by popping sim tray, unlock phone, open up stopwatch, insert sim tray and start stopwatch at the same time, when the stopwatch hits 8 seconds turn on hotspot from the pull down menu.
I know it takes some work but works every time for me. I will try to post a video for anyone who wants. Working on my verizon s8+. Thanks!
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I thought for sure that this was going to be a joke to see how long I would sit there popping my sim and launching apps and such, but WOW.
It actually worked on my third attempt ( VZ S8+)
Thanks again for posting this!:good:
Too easy I just went to Settings > Apps clicked the
overflow menu to show system apps and forced stop tetheringprovision and tetheringautomation. I also disabled tethering provision's access to change system settings.
My hotspot worked right away I'm on ATT UDP
has this stopped working after the lastest ATT update