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Hspa+ on ATT prepaid.

Just was wondering if you guys believe we will be able to get hspa with ATT prepaid.?? Anyone know?
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not any time soon, only a couple markets will have 3g on go phone by the end of march. Until at&t releases prepaid smartphones plans, this will not happen. I have heard that at&t plans to have the entire network (2g and 3g) covered by hspa by the end of 2011. Maybe then will we see some changes.

3G should work on any att phone, gophone or not (assuming there's 3G coverage where you live). HSPA+ definitely won't work, because there are no prepaid HSPA+ features/plans yet.

I used 2 different iPhones on att prepaid. And I got 3g just fine (should work with hspa+ just fine as long as its available in your area). It should work but remember android devices use a lot of data so disable it or make sure that you disable all the apps that sync data.

you cant, it will check the miei number or something and deactivate it

Ok while I know everything works fine on prepaid, no 4g here yet so that much I am not sure. I know after a rom flash you will get a completely different set of APN for prepaid.

cordell507 said:
you cant, it will check the miei number or something and deactivate it
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No it wont. With pay as you go they don't really care because there is no unlimited data for it. You will not get a txt saying you have the wrong data plan. You wont hear anything from att. Like I said before I used 2 different iPhones on a pay as you go ( the original iPhone and the iPhone 3g). I also used 2 different blackberrys too ( the curve and the storm). Never once did att contact me about the phone I was using. I used that sim card for over a year. Then when i went with a contract account they didn't even change my sim card. I continued to use the same sim card till i got my iPhone 4.

Carlrobling said:
No it wont. With pay as you go they don't really care because there is no unlimited data for it. You will not get a txt saying you have the wrong data plan. You wont hear anything from att. Like I said before I used 2 different iPhones on a pay as you go ( the original iPhone and the iPhone 3g). I also used 2 different blackberrys too ( the curve and the storm). Never once did att contact me about the phone I was using. I used that sim card for over a year. Then when i went with a contract account they didn't even change my sim card. I continued to use the same sim card till i got my iPhone 4.
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Isn't storm a CDMA phone.
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alaimar said:
Isn't storm a CDMA phone.
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Its a world phone. So it has sim card slot and can be unlocked for att and tmobile. So its a cdma and gsm phone.

It's not GoPhone, but I have my Inspire working just fine on StraightTalk, $45/month for unlimited everything. The only downside is that you have to purchase a $200 Nokia StraightTalk smartphone to get a compatible SIM (no way around that) and keep it in a drawer for as long as you have service. My data speeds are just as fast as regular AT&T around my area, about 5mb down, 2mb up.

entropism said:
It's not GoPhone, but I have my Inspire working just fine on StraightTalk, $45/month for unlimited everything. The only downside is that you have to purchase a $200 Nokia StraightTalk smartphone to get a compatible SIM (no way around that) and keep it in a drawer for as long as you have service. My data speeds are just as fast as regular AT&T around my area, about 5mb down, 2mb up.
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O there is hope lol when my contracts up with ATT I will head over to ATT. Thanks for posting this comment
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AT&T 3g VS 4g SIM

I dropped by a local AT&T store to check out the Inspire and the sales rep mentioned that if I upgraded from my HTC Tilt 2, I needed to get a new SIM with a 4g data plan. He said that my existing SIM would not have access to any data in the Inspire. I doubt the SIM cards themselves are really different. They are just probably entered into the AT&T database under different data plans.
So if I do that, can I put the new 4g SIM back into my older HTC Tilt 2 and still get data?
I have to support many different phones and I need to be able to move my SIM around.

Man do they TRAIN these reps at all?
The 4G sim is for LTE. I have a 3G sim and my data works just fine.
The 4G sim is supposed to be backward compatible.

3g here working fine
Inspire (rooted)
Leedroid v2.0.0
TELUS kernel

i've got an old 3g sim and i've been connected to h+ with dl speeds upwards of 3.5 mb/s.
as stated, the 4g sim is for lte, not hspa+...the inspire doesn't even accept lte 4g.

The sales rep even showed my a memo in a book that stated the 3g SIM would not allow access to ANY data in the Inspire.
So it wasn't the sales rep's fault, he was given bad information.

DonS said:
The sales rep even showed my a memo in a book that stated the 3g SIM would not allow access to ANY data in the Inspire.
So it wasn't the sales rep's fault, he was given bad information.
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Gotcha. My sales guys said he was headed to a training on the new 4G phones this weekend. I knew more than he did

My rep never even mentioned having to change my data plan if I upgraded to 4G. He did, however, mention that they did need to train the reps on the phones that are released...it took him a few minutes to remove the battery door (I was so hoping he wouldn't scratch up the phone before I got to use it - but, he didn't), and I even had to tell him where the SIM and SD cards went (he was looking for it in the battery area, but I noticed there was a door at the bottom that might come off - BINGO!).
AT&T really does need to provide more training for the CS reps. I'm glad I didn't have to change anything; even found a feature I wasn't using that saved me $10 when he removed it (from when I was with Cingular). I also asked about state employee discounts, and am now getting a 15% discount off my monthly bill. SWEEEEEEEEEEET!

I just took the 3G SIM out of my Nexus One... handed it to the AT&T sales rep...and kept my unlimited data plan.
I get H+ and I get very good speeds with no issue at all. Hmm..

The training is there, but it's up to the reps to take it seriously. They had trainings before release on each new phone and detailed instructions to reference. Unfortunately, many just click through the training and ignore the instructions. Btw, every rep was trained regarding the differences between hpsa+ plans vs previous data plans as well as differences between sim cards.

I have the inspire and was having some issues with dropped calls and dropped data. When i talked to the store reps they didnt know anything (go figure) when i called the corporate tech guys they told me to look at my sim card. If there is a 25 in the serial number then i have the right sim card for the phone, that it is the one that will connect to 4g when it comes. I looked at the sim card i was using when i was having the problems and it didnt have the 25 in the numbers, but since i got a new one that does i havent had any issues.

This was a great question. I had had the captivate and while rooted was getting the h in my signal area, and when I upgrades to the inspiewss VERY. Shocked I didn't need a new sim. I remember when the 3g ones came out and what a big deal that was.. all very interesting

Specs say there no LTE chipset in the inspire 4G like the thunderbolt
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I moved from a 3Gs to my Inspire and didn't get a new sim. Just popped the one I had into my Inspire and told me I was good to go. I didn't have to get rid of unlimited data or anything.

haven't had issues with the sim card im my inspire....i've been using it for 3.5 years now.

Your "4G" sim will work in the Tilt 2 as a back-up. I did your exact upgrade (Tilt2-Inspire), and have popped the "4G" sim into my Tilt 2 to do a couple things on the network and it's worked just fine. My old 3G sim card was de-activated when I activated my "4G" so I can't speak to the Inspire working with a 3G sim. Might get better data speed till AT&T's real 4G comes online if it works though.
Like some of the others I was a little worried about losing unlimited when the CSR (did my upgrade over the phone) started talking about a new data plan, but at least this time they aren't stealing unlimited away from their customers.

I just upgraded to my inspire a week or so ago, and I have the same sim that was in my Iphone 3g. I do notice that me data connection is not stable, the speed fluctuates anywhere from .4 mbps to 6.5 mbps. Would the 4g sim cure this?

intermission said:
I just upgraded to my inspire a week or so ago, and I have the same sim that was in my Iphone 3g. I do notice that me data connection is not stable, the speed fluctuates anywhere from .4 mbps to 6.5 mbps. Would the 4g sim cure this?
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No, the 4g sim does not have any effect on anything at this point. Same speed results and everything.
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I used my micro-sim from my iphone 4 in my inspire and it worked perfectly. However i did get that new "4G" sim when i went to the ATT store bc i was told i needed it.

i just ran speed test....my sim card does say 3g i believe
anyways running 10 times these are my numbers
***3.5 mb/s down and 1.19 mb/s upload***
im using leedroid 3.0.3 with leedroid kernel 3.1.1

4g sim is for LTE only. There is no need for it in the inspire. Some of our reps are iPhone dumb.
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Help a 4g Noob

hey guys.
I know my way around around and all but I need to ask a few questions about 4g.
right now I have a vibrant with a $60 T-Mobile unlimited plan ( includes data/ no contract).
I plan on getting a g2x(not from T-Mobile) . would I have to get a 4g plan? or I can use my current one with 3g only? is 4g free as long as the phone is capable? and do I need a different sim card for the g2x?
lol sorry for bombarding u all with these questions.....thanks in advance.

You'll will need to have at least a $30 premium plan.
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If by $60 unlimited plan you mean the prepaid/monthly 4g then yes it will work. Same 2gb data cap though.
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rsalina9 said:
If by $60 unlimited plan you mean the prepaid/monthly 4g then yes it will work. Same 2gb data cap though.
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yes is the $60 prepaid/ monthly plan but idk if its 4g....right now I get 3g (H) with 5gb cap then its slowed to 2g speed.
my main issue is I do no want to change the plan.....just phone

I may be misinformed but when I went from a Blackberry to the G2x, TMobile told me I would have to change the sim card to a 4g sim. Just throwing that out there.

I through my old sim card that was in my old Mytouch 3g slide into the G2x when i got it. Same plan nothing changed, just new phone. There really isnt a "4g" plan. And T-mobile's 4g network is technically 3g, they just call it that for whatever reason.
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They are all technically 3g. True 4g is around 100+ Mbps.

I think its just a selling technique. I had an old sim cards from years ago and transferred it into my g2x and ive had no issues at all. I did end up getting a new sim card anyway but the speeds remained the same. Also, it is unecessary to get a "4g" plan. I was talked into getting it when I upgraded the phone but then realized I could have just stuck to my old cheaper plan and the speeds wouldnt have changed. I talked to retentions at Tmobile and the lady even told me she has no idea why i was told to upgrade and she switched me back.

thanks everybody.....i am only limited to 5 thanks a day lol.

GTWalling said:
They are all technically 3g. True 4g is around 100+ Mbps.
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Well 4g stands for fourth generation. Which is a new technology or method. What Tmobile uses is improved hspa that's why its called fake 4g. Nothing new just really fast 3g. speed doesn't matter nor count has to be a new method of cellular transmittion.
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K2sInteg98 said:
I think its just a selling technique. I had an old sim cards from years ago and transferred it into my g2x and ive had no issues at all. I did end up getting a new sim card anyway but the speeds remained the same. Also, it is unecessary to get a "4g" plan. I was talked into getting it when I upgraded the phone but then realized I could have just stuck to my old cheaper plan and the speeds wouldnt have changed. I talked to retentions at Tmobile and the lady even told me she has no idea why i was told to upgrade and she switched me back.
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Representatives aren't necessarily knowledgeable on this subject. However, the '4G SIMs' they often refer to are usually UICC/GBA/IMS SIMs. The difference between these SIMs and the old LEGACY SIMs (as they are labeled on the T-Mobile system) is that the legacy SIMs have a lifetime of around 90,000 authentications. Once these authentications run out, the SIM will no longer register on the network.
These authentications are pretty much each time you connect or hand off to a new data tower. On HSPA and HSPA+, these handoffs are occurring far more often than they did on EDGE or GPRS. In essence, with a legacy SIM you are running on borrowed time before your SIM simply begins to refuse to connect to the network. It sounds like a lot of authentications, but they run out astoundingly fast and some people have actually hit the SIM exhaustion point. This won't cause slow data speeds or inability to connect to data but still being able to use voice. Your phone will not authenticate on the network at all.
Any data plan will give you '4G', or rather HSPA+ as long as your phone has the appropriate modem and you are within the area covered by HSPA+ towers. You do not have to change data plans if you already have one. You also do not need a new plan for a new SIM card. If you have a legacy SIM card T-Mobile should replace it free of charge, unless that policy has changed. They are trying to be proactive in preventing customers from not reaching the authentication limit of the legacy SIM cards.
Your SIM card has absolutely nothing to do with your data speed, however on certain phones some features are tied to certain types of SIM cards, especially new IMS featured phones.
lanlee212 said:
Well 4g stands for fourth generation. Which is a new technology or method. What Tmobile uses is improved hspa that's why its called fake 4g. Nothing new just really fast 3g. speed doesn't matter nor count has to be a new method of cellular transmittion.
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No carrier in the US at this time uses anything approaching the original 4G specifications, nor will be capable of doing so for years to come. Current LTE, HSPA+, and WiMax networks are stopgaps and were marketed by carriers as 4G despite them not being so, as they needed a way to market faster phones and networks to customers in a way that customers would understand. The specifications board that handles the generational specifications decided to submit to the desires of carriers and lower the boundaries for '4G'. HSPA+ was the quickest, easiest, least battery intensive, most reliable and most cost effective of the three to implement; which is why both T-Mobile and AT&T have been rolling these upgrades out to towers for some time.

Going Data Only on This Thing?

I have an htc inspire and when my contract expires in November I am thinking I would like to go data only on it . I don't make many phone calls and like the idea of having something like a smartphone in my pocket that i could check my email or google maps when i would need it but don't want to pay a fortune for a contract that i don't need. Would the t-mobile $30 a month for unlimited 4g and 100 minutes work on the inspire? Btw i'm located about 30 miles south east of chicago if that is any help. Want to know what my options would be on something like this. Also I have a playstation vita 3g which i never use the 3g part. would it be possible to take out that sim card and use the data plan on that?

The inspire does not have T-Mobile 3g radios. You will only get edge with T-Mobile sim. So if you can live with that then go ahead. There is straight talk they sell att sim unlimited tlk,txt, around 2gb of data for 45. Also get postpaid coverage with roaming!!!!
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so if i went to canada like i do once or so a year i would be able to use my data at no additional charge?

T-Mobile vs. AT&T Post Pay Plans vs. Straight Talk

T-Mobile vs. AT&T Post Pay Plans vs. Straight Talk
I live in an area where T-Mobile is not the greatest. I have not used AT&T post pay service so I'm not sure if its any better.
Is there a difference in service between post pay and straight talk plans with either company?
What's better post or straight?
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I had been on straight talk for a year and went back to post paid ATT. I have gone over my data limit of 4 gigs two months in a row and am going beck to straight talk next week. Same call towers and service but ST is unlimited everything for $45

deserthi said:
I had been on straight talk for a year and went back to pt. Iost paid ATT. I have gone over my data limit of 4 gigs two months in a row and am going beck to straight talk next week. Same call towers and service but ST is unlimited everything for $45
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ST will get 2.5GB @ LTE speed then you get 2g/edge. Be careful with ST they have cancel people account cause of using too much data.I was thinking about going there but ended up with Tmobile where I get 5 GB @ lte speed. ST customer services sucks from what I heard online.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Stra...gh-speed-data-monthly-and-then-2GEDGE_id47883

Have a look at this forum: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/249-General-Prepaid-discussion

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Have a look at this forum: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/249-General-Prepaid-discussion
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Thanks adibeckett! This site is solid gold, I have a bit of reading to catch up on.
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Been on ST for over a year have used over 2.5 and never had throttling problems it a great way to go for 45 a month.

A lot of it this is going to be regionally specific, and particularly the signal and congestion of T-Mobile vs AT&T in your house and other common places and routes. Check coverage, ask neighbors, friends their coverage experience. That dominates everything else.
In my area (Bay Area) I had a number of key spots (I was on T-mobile PAYG) which had no signal, and AT&T had signal, so I got a StraightTalk AT&T SIM and been on that since January and overall I been happy, enough calls and data for my usage. I got a Nexus 4 so its LTE (if hacked) doesn't get coverage for me but I did bandwidth test and get 2-7Mbits download, 1Mbit upload, each time. I never had a service issue needing to call Straighttalk or ask for support, it has simply worked. I heard the ST CS can suck but I not needed any.
My advice would be to throw a little $ at ST, get both a T-Mobile and AT&T SIM and try both on alternating days as you do your regular stuff and check call and data coverage and quality and then decide which to keep going into month 2 onwards. I knew T-mobile bad for me so went only for AT&T.
$45 plus a little tax/month for unlimited calls, text and I rarely use more than 1GB/month as on Wifi mostly and when away from Wifi its email and navigation mostly for me. I have heard if going over 2GB/month you can warning or kicked off service.

One thing to watch out for with ST is that they throttle/cripple video streaming on LTE or 4G. Watching Youtube videos is pretty much useless unless you switch your phone to 3G. On LTE or 4G the video will keep stopping to buffer every 3-4 seconds and will never pre-load any of the video.
I can't deal with this so I'm dropping ST very soon.

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One thing to watch out for with ST is that they throttle/cripple video streaming on LTE or 4G. Watching Youtube videos is pretty much useless unless you switch your phone to 3G. On LTE or 4G the video will keep stopping to buffer every 3-4 seconds and will never pre-load any of the video.
I can't deal with this so I'm dropping ST very soon.
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Really? My 3G is about 6mbits so that is not fast enough? There are ways around any throttling but they add their own throttles eg encapsulate in a VPN.
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