I'm tired of laggy phones, buggy software and that problems that are not described on the box when you buy it.
Had a S3, then got a S4, I REALLY got tired of Lagmsung and his awful updates, every update had new bugs and lagged the phone even more.
I gave a Moto X 2014 to my GF as a christmas gift, one year later the phone is still rocking, blazing bast, no bugs, lots of updates.
So, I was looking for a motorola replacement, suddenly my eyes saw this phone, on the paper it looks awesome, 3gb ram, 64gb storage, quad core 2,7ghz, 1440p screen...amazing! But, what on the software side?
I saw some weird things on the forums that triggered the alarms and I decided to not buy it until I know what's going on directly from its owners
Are you happy with the phone, or does it have bugs, strange camera/wifi/whatever issues, what about updates, are they ok? Also saw few cases of greyed LCD on the corners...
I won't tolerate more that "sell-and-forget" policy , giving my money to what doesn't deserve it.
Any comments are really appreciated,
Regards
The Marshmallow update took awhile for the maxx to reach its soak test phase, but its gonna be rolling out officially soon.
The phone is a beast of a device. The snapdragon 805 processor can still handle anything thrown at it, and its GPU performs beautifully.
Since Motorola runs on nearly stiock android you will have a smooth experience and run apps without any problems
The roms available for it are great too, Skrillax and Baybutcher both put a lot of work into CM and RR roms and I have no complaints about my device at all, and have no doubt i'll be using my device for a long time to come
I'm using a Droid Turbo, which is Verizons moto maxx
I know you will not be disappointed
I own three. One each for me and my wife and a backup still in the box. Sold our Nexus 5 phones and LG G2 backups to go all in on this device. It's worth it. It's the first phone I will be keeping for 2 years.
Make sure you get the XT1225 Moto Maxx. The XT1250 is also called the "Moto Maxx" -- but it's the really same device as the XT1254, Droid Turbo. The XT1250 = XT1254, even same FCC ID. You don't want that one unless you need CDMA bands or LTE band 13 (Verizon). Instead you probably want the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
The XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- plus a ton of HSPA bands. Of the Quarks, the Moto XT1225 has greater number of LTE bands and greater number of HSPA bands. Unless you use Verizon, the XT1225 is the better Quark. Bootloader easily unlocked via Motorola website.
There are basically two Motorola Quark devices (two different FCC IDs), sold under three model names: Droid Turbo, Moto Turbo, Moto Maxx. All have the same hardware, but different radios. The Motorola Quark was basically the Moto Nexus 6 (Shamu) in a 5.2" size. In fact, as late as mid-August 2014, Google/Motorola was testing a 5.2" Shamu variant. We saw the leaked benchmarks... But Google decided on the 6" whale, which was a mistake. I bought the Quark instead.
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5.2" Moto Maxx vs massive 5.96" Nexus 6
Motorola obviously re-purposed the 5.2" "Shamu" variant as the "Quark" -- Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx, changed the camera and gave it a BIGGER battery. Still, a lot of the hardware specs remains the same as the Nexus 6.
Same manufacturer (Motorola),
same CPU/GPU (Snapdragon 805),
same RAM (3GB),
same resolution (1440p),
same "turbo" charger
same Qi wireless charging.
Same 64GB internal storage as the 64GB version of the Nexus 6.
Bigger battery than the Nexus 6, even though a smaller phone!
We will soon get stock Marshmallow (in soak tests), but we already have custom ROM Marshmallow.
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FCC ID IHDT56PK1
Droid Turbo XT1254 (sold by U.S. carrier Verizon; 32/64GB internal memory)
U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers; 32GB internal memory)
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FCC ID IHDTS6PK2
"international" Moto Maxx XT1225 (64GB internal memory)
Moto Turbo XT1225 (sold in India, but identical to Moto Maxx XT1225)
I live in the U.S. but have THREE "international" XT1225, as it has ALL the U.S. carrier AT&T LTE bands (2,4, 5, 17), plus all the Brazil LTE bands (3, 7) when I visit Brazil (my wife is Brazilian).
ChazzMatt said:
I own three. One each for me and my wife and a backup still in the box. Sold our Nexus 5 phones and LG G2 backups to go all in on this device. It's worth it. It's the first phone I will be keeping for 2 years.
Make sure you get the XT1225. The XT1250 is also called the Moto Maxx, but it's the same device as the XT1254, Droid Turbo. The XT1250 = XT1254, even same FCC ID. You don't want that one unless you need CDMA or LTE band 13 (Verizon).
The XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17, plus a ton of HSPA bands.
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I was wrong, it's a droid turbo! So, will it have issues on european bands?
dabyd64 said:
I was wrong, it's a droid turbo! So, will it have issues on european bands?
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I added more to my reply above. Read again, see the all the bands for each Quark device.
Also, the Droid Turbo XT1254 comes in 32/64GB internal memory, while the Moto XT1225 is 64GB only internal memory.
Big thanks, I still don't know what model is, I've asked the seller.
It's the 64gb black model with the red letters "droid" on the back, no signs of Verizon anywhere, just like this:
In Spain we have 800 mhz LTE band, so the xt1250/1254 will not work with it, right?
Anyway I'm happy with wcdma, usually got around 12Mbits, more than enough for my everyday purposes, loosing LTE won't keep me from buying, but having ollocked bootloader will.
From what I've read, only the xt1254 has it locked, and only Sunshine can unlock it and only in certain 4.4 version, so if it has other newer build version it'll be unlockable, right?
I always hated HTC for this, all s-on and s-off stuff, complex and dangerous procedures to unlock, bricks..that was my last htc(wildfire).
dabyd64 said:
Big thanks, I still don't know what model is, I've asked the seller.
It's the 64gb black model with the red letters "droid" on the back, no signs of Verizon anywhere, just like this:
In Spain we have 800 mhz LTE band, so the xt1250/1254 will not work with it, right?
Anyway I'm happy with wcdma, usually got around 12Mbits, more than enough for my everyday purposes, loosing LTE won't keep me from buying, but having ollocked bootloader will.
From what I've read, only the xt1254 has it locked, and only Sunshine can unlock it and only in certain 4.4 version, so if it has other newer build version it'll be unlockable, right?
I always hated HTC for this, all s-on and s-off stuff, complex and dangerous procedures to unlock, bricks..that was my last htc(wildfire).
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If it says "Droid" on the back, it is the Verizon model.
dabyd64 said:
Big thanks, I still don't know what model is, I've asked the seller.
It's the 64gb black model with the red letters "droid" on the back, no signs of Verizon anywhere, just like this:
In Spain we have 800 mhz LTE band, so the xt1250/1254 will not work with it, right?
Anyway I'm happy with wcdma, usually got around 12Mbits, more than enough for my everyday purposes, loosing LTE won't keep me from buying, but having ollocked bootloader will.
From what I've read, only the xt1254 has it locked, and only Sunshine can unlock it and only in certain 4.4 version, so if it has other newer build version it'll be unlockable, right?
I always hated HTC for this, all s-on and s-off stuff, complex and dangerous procedures to unlock, bricks..that was my last htc(wildfire).
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If it says "Droid" on the back, it is the Verizon model.
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Right. Only the Verizon model XT1254 Quark is called Droid (Droid Turbo), although the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is exactly identical. There was no "exclusivity" except in the Droid name. One of the other Quarks is even called Moto Turbo.
That was also why I included the actual FCC ID numbers with the LTE/HSPA bands in my post above.
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FCC ID IHDT56PK1
Droid Turbo XT1254 (sold by U.S. carrier Verizon; 32/64GB internal memory)
U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (sold by U.S. regional CDMA/LTE carriers; 32GB internal memory)
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FCC ID IHDTS6PK2
"international" Moto Maxx XT1225 (64GB internal memory)
Moto Turbo XT1225 (sold in India, but identical to Moto Maxx XT1225)
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In your Droid picture, you can see the FCC ID at the bottom of the phone.
I just rotated and cropped your picture. But again, if it says Droid, it's the XT1254.
The Moto Maxx doesn't have any tramp stamps like that on the back.
This is one of my XT1225:
Only the "M" logo. The FCC ID on the XT1225 is there at the bottom, but very lightly printed. Depends on the angle so you can see it. Not visible in this picture.
Finally I got the model. XT1254, so definitely a Verizon DROID MAXX. (very slow communication with seller, lots of time to get answers)
Apart of locked bootloader and missing 800MHz LTE band, it's the same as Moto MAXX. I can live with it.
The phone is the rocket it should be? Really good camera? Fast wifi, no strange hangs, no random connection drops...?
The damn thing is not cheap, so I want to be 100% sure!
Thanks to all for the experiences!
dabyd64 said:
Finally I got the model. XT1254, so definitely a Verizon DROID MAXX. (very slow communication with seller, lots of time to get answers)
Apart of locked bootloader and missing 800MHz LTE band, it's the same as Moto MAXX. I can live with it.
The phone is the rocket it should be? Really good camera? Fast wifi, no strange hangs, no random connection drops...?
The damn thing is not cheap, so I want to be 100% sure!
Thanks to all for the experiences!
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Camera is good, but does not have OIS (Optical Image Stabilization) like the Moto Nexus 6.
OIS and stereo speakers are the only two features that would have made this phone even better. Motorola put those features on their Nexus 6 (Shamu), which came out at the same time -- so I don't understand why not on the Quark. (Of course, it does have a bigger battery than the Nexus 6, even though it's a smaller phone.)
Phone is very fast, very responsive.
It is a 1,5 years old phone (Released 2014, November) and you should expect not high end features.
It had a high spec at the time of launching, but support from motorola has been sparse.
It has its comunity in xda, but as it was not a high seller phone, don't expect a lot of development to it.
All development done for this phone here on xda has been done by just a few developers who have their lives outside xda and everyone here should be very thankful to them.
If you have got a good price on it, go for it. If not, I think you should go to a newer phone.
mirdones said:
It is a 1,5 years old phone (Released 2014, November) and you should expect not high end features.
It had a high spec at the time of launching, but support from motorola has been sparse.
It has its comunity in xda, but as it was not a high seller phone, don't expect a lot of development to it.
All development done for this phone here on xda has been done by just a few developers who have their lives outside xda and everyone here should be very thankful to them.
If you have got a good price on it, go for it. If not, I think you should go to a newer phone.
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I disagree. It's still one of the best phones out there.
5.2", 1440p AMOLED display (fantastic colors, Apple's iPhone 7 is rumored to be switching to AMOLED. We already have it.)
3G RAM
Snapdragon 805
21 megapixel camera
64GB internal memory
Qi wireless charging
Turbo charging
3900 mAh battery
There's only a few phones that match or exceed that. The 2015 Nexus phones don't even have Qi wireless charging. I was a Nexus fanboi for years, but Google has lost their way on Nexus phones. The LG 5X this year only has 1080p and 2GB RAM. The Nexus Huawei 6P doesn't have features this Quark has and is STILL too big, at 5.7".
I had a 2015 LG G4 I won for FREE in a contest, and I sold it to keep this phone. I even bought a 3rd XT1225, just in case something happened to mine and my wife's XT1225 phones.
As far as specs, only with the new 2016 Snapdragon 820 phones do we have some real competition (like the Galaxy S7, where Samsung increased the battery size and uses the Snapdragon 820). All the 2015 phones used either the problematic Snapdragon 810 or the slower 808. Benchmarks on those phones were often LOWER than on our Snapdragon 805.
Not sure by what you mean by lack of development. We have CM12.1, CM13, Mokee ASOP and Resurrection Remix, and custom kernel. Yes, Motorola should be ashamed for slow rollout of both Lollipop and Marshmallow to one of their still-best phones. I will criticize them forever for that. Motorola should also be ashamed for not rolling this phone out to all countries. It's what the 2014 Moto X should have been, instead of copycat of the 2013 LG G2 copycat it was. The 2014 Quark and Shamu (Nexus 6) were the first two real top tier phones Motorola has released that could compete equally with LG and Samsung top tier phones... (and the Nexus 6 was too big.) But dev work on this phone has been outstanding.
ChazzMatt said:
I disagree. It's still one of the best phones out there.
5.2", 1440p AMOLED display
3G RAM, Snapdragon 805
21 megapixel camera
64GB internal memory
Qi wireless charging
Turbo charging
There's only a few phones that match or exceed that. This year's Nexus phones don't even have Qi wireless charging. I was a Nexus faboi for years, but Google has lost their way on Nexus phones. The LG 5X this year only has 1080p and 2GB RAM. The 6P doesn't have features this Quark has and is STILL too big.
Not sure by what you mean by lack of development. We have CM12.1, CM13, Mokee ASOP and Resurrection Remix.
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Spec wise, it is a great phone, but:
Camera is not only Megapixels, and I think the camera is just regular.
Snapdradon 805 is almost 2 years old and now we have more battery friendly processors that would make a better use of a battery as giant as the one from this phone.
I think a smaller resolution would be more battery friendly and I sincerelly can't notice the difference between 1440p and 1080p and a 5 inch screen.
I didn't mean lack of development, but just a few developers.
I think when baybutcher27, Skrilax_CZ and yourself move on to newer phones, I don't think we will see any new development for our quarks.
mirdones said:
Spec wise, it is a great phone, but:
Camera is not only Megapixels, and I think the camera is just regular.
Snapdradon 805 is almost 2 years old and now we have more battery friendly processors that would make a better use of a battery as giant as the one from this phone.
I think a smaller resolution would be more battery friendly and I sincerelly can't notice the difference between 1440p and 1080p and a 5 inch screen.
I didn't mean lack of development, but just a few developers.
I think when baybutcher27, Skrilax_CZ and yourself move on to newer phones, I don't think we will see any new development for our quarks.
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Well, 1440p is the standard for top tier phones. I specifically want that and not 1080p. I had 1080p with my 2013 LG Nexus 5. I want better, 1440p.
Yes, when @baybutcher27 and @Skrilax_CZ move on to other phones that will be a sad day. By that time, I will see what other phones are out there. But this is the first phone I will keep for a two full years, which is amazing. Believe me, I look at specs of other phones, but the combination of what this phone has still satisfies me.
IF for the Quark successor Kinzie (Moto X Force, Droid Turbo 2), Motorola would have added rear camera OIS and stereo speakers, I would have jumped. But instead they went with silly plastic film "scratchless" gimmick -- and made the battery smaller.
If Google would have made the 2015 5.2" Nexus LG 5X a true top-tier phone -- with 1440p, 3GB RAM and also had Qi wireless (like the 2013 LG Nexus 5), I would have gone back to Nexus. Instead they made the more reasonable size phone a "mid tier" phone, while keeping phablet 5.7" with top tier specs (and even that doesn't have Qi wireless).
5.1- 5.3" is the "sweet spot" for mainstream populace. Even LG went back down to 5.3" display and Samsung has stayed with 5.1" for at least 3 generations for their mainstream Galaxy flagship. You can have a larger phablet (like the Note), if you also make the mainstream size with top tier specs.
ChazzMatt said:
Well, 1440p is the standard for top tier phones. I specifically want that and not 1080p. I had 1080p with my 2013 LG Nexus 5. I want better, 1440p.
Yes, when @baybutcher27 and @Skrilax_CZ move on to other phones that will be a sad day. By that time, I will see what other phones are out there. But this is the first phone I will keep for a two full years, which is amazing. Believe me, I look at specs of other phones, but the combination of what this phone has still satisfies me.
IF for the Quark successor Kinzie (Moto X Force, Droid Turbo 2), Motorola would have added rear camera OIS and stereo speakers, I would have jumped. But instead they went with silly plastic film "scratchless" gimmick -- and made the battery smaller.
If Google would have made the 2015 5.2" Nexus LG 5X a true top-tier phone -- with 1440p, 3GB RAM and also had Qi wireless (like the 2013 LG Nexus 5), I would have gone back to Nexus. Instead they made the more reasonable size phone a "mid tier" phone, while keeping phablet 5.7" with top tier specs (and even that doesn't have Qi wireless).
5.1- 5.3" is the "sweet spot" for mainstream populace. Even LG went back down to 5.3" display and Samsung has stayed with 5.1" for at least 3 generations for their mainstream Galaxy flagship. You can have a larger phablet (like the Note), if you also make the mainstream size with top tier specs.
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Our dream phone would be april folls xda joke, the xda labphone.
Unfortunatelly, it was just a dream.
And yes, I have my quark for more than a year and it is already showing its age as the battery doesn't last anything closer to a day and I am already thinking in moving on to another phone in a couple of months.
ChazzMatt said:
I disagree. It's still one of the best phones out there.
5.2", 1440p AMOLED display (fantastic colors, Apple's iPhone 7 is rumored to be switching to AMOLED. We already have it.)
3G RAM
Snapdragon 805
21 megapixel camera
64GB internal memory
Qi wireless charging
Turbo charging
3900 mAh battery
There's only a few phones that match or exceed that. The 2015 Nexus phones don't even have Qi wireless charging. I was a Nexus fanboi for years, but Google has lost their way on Nexus phones. The LG 5X this year only has 1080p and 2GB RAM. The Nexus Huawei 6P doesn't have features this Quark has and is STILL too big, at 5.7".
I had a 2015 LG G4 I won for FREE in a contest, and I sold it to keep this phone. I even bought a 3rd XT1225, just in case something happened to mine and my wife's XT1225 phones.
As far as specs, only with the new 2016 Snapdragon 820 phones do we have some real competition (like the Galaxy S7, where Samsung increased the battery size and uses the Snapdragon 820). All the 2015 phones used either the problematic Snapdragon 810 or the slower 808. Benchmarks on those phones were often LOWER than on our Snapdragon 805.
Not sure by what you mean by lack of development. We have CM12.1, CM13, Mokee ASOP and Resurrection Remix, and custom kernel. Yes, Motorola should be ashamed for slow rollout of both Lollipop and Marshmallow to one of their still-best phones. I will criticize them forever for that. Motorola should also be ashamed for not rolling this phone out to all countries. It's what the 2014 Moto X should have been, instead of copycat of the 2013 LG G2 copycat it was. The 2014 Quark and Shamu (Nexus 6) were the first two real top tier phones Motorola has released that could compete equally with LG and Samsung top tier phones... (and the Nexus 6 was too big.) But dev work on this phone has been outstanding.
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So can I ask is the 1225 non international is an "Obake" rather than quark? Which one has a bootloader that can be unlocked through Motorola website or other utilities?
Thanks
bigjailerman said:
So can I ask is the 1225 non international is an "Obake" rather than quark? Which one has a bootloader that can be unlocked through Motorola website or other utilities?
Thanks
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what's an obake?
Quark is the code name for our device. XT1225/XT1250/XT1254.
Verizon's is the XT1254, and is identical to the U.S.MOTO MAXX XT1250 in every way, including the FCC ID and radio bands (CDMA/LTE,etc). Except, Verizon had Motorola lock down the bootloader.
The XT1225 and XT1250 can be unlocked via Motorola website code, for free.
"International" XT1225 has same hardware as the XT1254/XT1250, but has different radio bands -- so different FCC ID. No CDMA, more HSPA bands, more LTE bands (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17), but not LTE 13 (Verizon). Sold under the "Moto Turbo" and "Moto Maxx" names, depending on where you buy it.
The Quarks were basically the 5.2" version of the Moto Nexus 6, minus stereo speakers and rear camera OIS -- but having a much larger battery (3900 mAh).
Verizon tried to claim the "Droid Turbo" was exclusive, but they lied. Even the "Turbo" name was used by Motorola for another Quark. (The XT1250 was exactly the same device Verizon sells as the Droid Turbo XT1254.)
bigjailerman said:
So can I ask is the 1225 non international is an "Obake" rather than quark? Which one has a bootloader that can be unlocked through Motorola website or other utilities?
Thanks
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Obake was the phone previous to quark. Obake were the droid maxx droid ultra and droid mini they are only unlockable if you can get one that was not updated to 4.4.4 only previous Android versions are unlockable on those phones via sunshine. The quark phones which are the Moto maxx Moto turbo and droid turbo are as of know all unlockable via either Motorola website for all but droid turbo, the droid turbo specifically can only be unlocked via sunshine app
ChazzMatt said:
I disagree. It's still one of the best phones out there.
5.2", 1440p AMOLED display (fantastic colors, Apple's iPhone 7 is rumored to be switching to AMOLED. We already have it.)
3G RAM
Snapdragon 805
21 megapixel camera
64GB internal memory
Qi wireless charging
Turbo charging
3900 mAh battery
There's only a few phones that match or exceed that. The 2015 Nexus phones don't even have Qi wireless charging. I was a Nexus fanboi for years, but Google has lost their way on Nexus phones. The LG 5X this year only has 1080p and 2GB RAM. The Nexus Huawei 6P doesn't have features this Quark has and is STILL too big, at 5.7".
I had a 2015 LG G4 I won for FREE in a contest, and I sold it to keep this phone. I even bought a 3rd XT1225, just in case something happened to mine and my wife's XT1225 phones.
As far as specs, only with the new 2016 Snapdragon 820 phones do we have some real competition (like the Galaxy S7, where Samsung increased the battery size and uses the Snapdragon 820). All the 2015 phones used either the problematic Snapdragon 810 or the slower 808. Benchmarks on those phones were often LOWER than on our Snapdragon 805.
Not sure by what you mean by lack of development. We have CM12.1, CM13, Mokee ASOP and Resurrection Remix, and custom kernel. Yes, Motorola should be ashamed for slow rollout of both Lollipop and Marshmallow to one of their still-best phones. I will criticize them forever for that. Motorola should also be ashamed for not rolling this phone out to all countries. It's what the 2014 Moto X should have been, instead of copycat of the 2013 LG G2 copycat it was. The 2014 Quark and Shamu (Nexus 6) were the first two real top tier phones Motorola has released that could compete equally with LG and Samsung top tier phones... (and the Nexus 6 was too big.) But dev work on this phone has been outstanding.
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ChazzMatt said:
what's an obake?
Quark is the code name for our device. XT1225/XT1250/XT1254.
Verizon's is the XT1254, and is identical to the U.S.MOTO MAXX XT1250 in every way, including the FCC ID and radio bands (CDMA/LTE,etc). Except, Verizon had Motorola lock down the bootloader.
The XT1225 and XT1250 can be unlocked via Motorola website code, for free.
"International" XT1225 has same hardware as the XT1254/XT1250, but has different radio bands -- so different FCC ID. No CDMA, more HSPA bands, more LTE bands (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17), but not LTE 13 (Verizon). Sold under the "Moto Turbo" and "Moto Maxx" names, depending on where you buy it.
The Quarks were basically the 5.2" version of the Moto Nexus 6, minus stereo speakers and rear camera OIS -- but having a much larger battery (3900 mAh).
Verizon tried to claim the "Droid Turbo" was exclusive, but they lied. Even the "Turbo" name was used by Motorola for another Quark. (The XT1250 was exactly the same device Verizon sells as the Droid Turbo XT1254.)
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So here is probably a dumb question but here it goes.. I am not seeing MOTO MAXX or XT1225 at all. I dont know what I am missing here. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/home/action/add
Should I be looking somewhere else. I apologize Ive been away from Motorola since my Razr M. Currently I am currently on a Xiaomi Mi3 on CM13 and that is what I want to do for my newly purhcased Moto Maxx xt1225 (Puerto Rico)
Thank you
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I SEE MY ERROR, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE PHONE DISPLAYED BUT EVIDENTLY I NEED TO COMPLETE THE ADB BOOTLAODER KEY..
SORRY GUYS
One thing to watch out for if you have the ballistic nylon version. If you keep your phone in your back pocket and fart a lot. The phone starts to smell like ass